Dave in Phoenix

Tantric has many different aspects so all depends on the provider. I like the basic ideas of more of a healing art rather than just sex, which I find a bit boring. I am far more into sensuality and intimacy which some aspects of Tantra is. My biggest problem with some of Tantra is the deep breathing. All I do is hyperventilate - does not make me relaxed. There are some very nice intimate positions in Tantra and related arts. What I enjoy is interaction with a female, not as a sex object but as a human with feelings just like me. I have extensively reported on my favorite Esalen massage - far more well-known a few decades ago. It is not directly sexual but more intimate. I discuss it and briefly its difference from Tantra at http://www.sexwork.com/subcontents/esalen.html

Ariel at SR Intermodal Dr I recalled my good time with her a year ago especially great with deep muscle back massage and sensuality. Did my usual 50 NR for $160. She quickly remembered me as the Esalen Massage Guy from Phoenix. Talked and interacted like old friends. Very talented real massage, says self-learned since like it so much herself. As usual loved my reverse and her sensual finish was perfect for me. She might have gained a bit of weight over last year, not sure but a very nice session. I moved the table a bit to give me more room above the head which was great with her with one of my moves that need me to stand at her head end. http://www.steelesroyal.ca/profiles/?ariel

Pure Gold Tuesday afternoon 6/6/2017 3rd year I have noted address is wrong on their website which I always mention to the gals. The site says Windor when its Royal Windsor Dr. First time years ago had a hard time finding since GPS couldn't find any "Windor." http://www.puregoldclub.ca/ I was there for their 2 for one dances. Was surprised not very busy but some good looking gals. Assume much more busy at night. Soon Amber sitting at the bar kind of waved me over to her. Nice body, quite a talker. When she found I was from the U.S., she pointed out her flag she uses to sit on. She originally I believe from Ft. Lauderdale Florida. I said wanted to get a set of 2for1's with a variety of dancers and off we went to her office. Nice boy and sensuality although kept asking for more dances and everyone tips her $20. Fairly hard sell which I rejected and never tip dancers (and never do extra's). She might have had a bit much to drink, not sure. I enjoyed her except not much of a connection after I turned down her up sell. I was wondering where were the Eastern Europeans I usually like at Solid Gold for their often natural sensuality. Didn't have to wait long! Laura from Hungary. She comes to my stool, hugs and greets me like old friends. I could tell immediately she was my type for sensuality. She said she recognized me from a long time ago. That is very possible! (Back at hotel looking at 2016 report don't find her but she seemed familiar). Off we went for a 2 for 1. Very much my type of sensuality and moves. A rare five on my 0-5 intimacy scale. BTW, mentioned last year happened to be there for customer appreciation night with all the food (which I didn't come for or know about). She said should be one soon this year but not yet announced. Yes, the place was packed but very few guys getting dances just there for the free food! I then avoided some larger breasted gals but while larger than my ideal slender really cute gal with a nice face, I smiled at and she diverted to my side. Jasmine, Persian been in Canada about four years with good English no major accent made for a good conversation. She had to go on stage next and I promised to wait for her. She left her seat cover thing in chair next to me, kind of to show I am taken? Returned and did some great dances, great body even with breasts larger than my ideal. A 4 on my 0-5 intimacy scale with five rare. A plus is the men's room is cleaner and nicer than most of the clubs Didn't want to overdue it and had to get back to the hotel to get ready for a dinner meeting at 7:20 near downtown. My gosh, I left at 6:30 from near airport and 401 was terrible. Didn't get to the restaurant near Leslie and York until 7:45! Fortunately, my friend figured I was stuck in 401 traffic. Confirms why I stay on Westside and try to avoid towards downtown as much as possible.

Nadia of GOE - Sunday afternoon 6/4/2017 So many choices, but decided for my first fling after various strip clubs to repeat with Nadia from last year about this time. Last time was a nuisance trying to do incall downtown with parking and traffic so was glad outcall available at not much higher a rate for an hour out ($280) to Etobicoke vs. my usual 45 min at incalls the last trip. I did a very long review and my sex ed class last year. I am review #2 on her page from last year. I think I choose her based on the Einer earlier review since we seem to share some of the same tastes for personality vs. just the usual. She recalled how nice I was :) and when got into session some of my odd likes which she also liked. The perfect combination of great discussion since she remembered me and session. Most folks that have followed my reviews for a decade know my oddities vs. usual stuff so won't repeat. As Nadia, herself said without my saying it more of a great "connection" vs. just the usual. Regarding some of the negative comments others have had: Yes, she is much more light skinned than the photoshopped pictures show and she has a bit of a rough patch... But for all my sensual interests and personality we are a great match. http://www.gardenofedenescorts.com/spdir/opensp/id/1408208796652099b16acc48d48b1836906e6485aa

Diamond Steeles Royal Obsession Sunday 11 PM With most of the NR gals at various places on my pre-trip spreadsheet were not on the schedule started looking at who was available. I could find no reviews on Diamond but from pictures liked her slimmer body and smaller naturals. So took a chance. Was a good choice. My only problem was the website says for $50 Nude Reverse it is $60+$100. In fact, when I arrived and waited for Diamond I confirmed with the very cute and friendly receptionist it was $60+100 and paid her the $60. Diamond mentioned this and sure enough on the hard to read in the dark fee schedule on the door says $110. I should have noted what 40 min is - says $80 on site. It was not a big deal and paid her the extra $10. However, I am an exacting type person with the exact fees ready to pay and don't like up pricing (my CPA background). Wasn't her fault since that appears to be the new rate. Back to Diamond, very nice my type of body, friendly and did good back massage for my kinks. I asked her if she had any training. She said some, but mostly she loves massage and does what she likes. That, of course, led to a great response to my reverse as she commented I obviously knew what I was doing. Diamond was good, and I liked the on the table cuddling at the end. Not quite some of the sensual moves I've often had at Allure but an enjoyable time. I note Ariel is still at Steels Royal and on days this week. Last year she had one of the best deep muscle massages which I always need as well as great sensuality. I will try and get with her this week. I usually prefer smaller than C, but she was great from my June 2016 review. For my late night roaming's I went back to Midway Invader where had a great time Friday night - separate report in strip club section. http://obsessionmassage.ca/view_attendent_details.php?nMId=1056

Continued from other thread since won't let me add part 3: Wow, was Meika sensual and responsive in dances. Another rare five on my intimacy scale. The only negative was even with great dances I limit myself to two dances since trying not to spend too much and allocate not more than $100 a night at clubs. I am also doing some companions (about $270/hr) Nude-reverse adult parlors in Sauga (about $160) besides lots of strip clubs. I enjoy variety in each venue but have already spent a great deal in my first five days. I am going to slow down a bit but have a few others on my schedule and especially Sold Gold for their 2 for 1 Tuesday day or all day Wed. I assume by "all day" that means evening also. I also have two nonadult activity meetings in the next few days as well as some tourist things on my agenda for the week. Anyway, why I got into this was that after the 1st dance I had mentioned to Meika "one more" but sometimes it's hard to tell the ending of songs as sometimes keeps going between. When I thought we were done with 2, I said great, but that's my limit. She insisted it had been four songs. Actually, it very well may have been, but I didn't think it was that long. Anyway, I blew my budget and willingly paid all 4, and that didn't detract from how much I enjoyed her. I only had a few $20s left and decided to give up on finding Sassy. Rae nicely approached me, and I would have done dancers with her if I had not overspent on Meika. After so many dancers this trip (and others) and kind of dance red out but with great experiences. And I usually really like the Eastern Europeans at Solid Gold. An enjoyable time even with the small issue.

Midway Invader about 4-6 PM Friday 6/2/2017 After my long adventure for an hour trying to find a Tom Horton's that existed vs. vacant lots, my map App was taking me to, and a few drive through's. I wanted to relax inside after the long prior day of travel. I had last eaten at about midnight at Zets a few miles from my hotel. Gee, their buns are so big hard to get in the mouth! But I liked their bacon burger with onion rings! I recalled that Million Dollar Salon was closer - I wasn't up for the stairs . So took off with GPS to Midway Invader (MI). Recent reports are it has gone down hill since my many visits for nearly 20 years. It uses to be much busier and there use not have the back end tenant, so parking was all the way to the back when it had larger crowds in its heyday. Not expecting much but wanting to visit for old time sake. I use to meet some guys from various boards at MI. The first impression confirmed not well maintained. The restroom a mess, most toilets had broken seats, etc. First couples dancers I turned down not my body type (prefer slimmer smaller natural breasts) But were a few I was attracted to body wise. My Diet Coke was $6.50. Not very busy for a late Friday afternoon maybe 10-15 guys and maybe as many dancers. And then came "C." Older attractive and most of all we seemed to immediately connect as long lost friends while I was sitting at far right wall tables by VIP wall with stools, my usual spot. Her mother had lived in Scottsdale for awhile, and she loved Phoenix area in the summer. Then we talked about the clubs - she also use to work in Niagara also. I mentioned plan to do more escorts this trip vs. so many strip clubs and talked about the agencies and legal situation, She offers outcall's but at $400 so could see why I wouldn't be interested as she knows the agencies are more reasonably priced. She really likes working at MI as management is liberal (vs. Pure Gold for example) and the dancers are kind of a happy family. I always mention not interested in 'extra's" just more cuddly, nice touch type dances. Did a few great dances. Immediate well matched my quality touch intimacy response. She mentioned how my soft hands on breast massage etc. felt so good and compared to what she experiences with some guys. I often get this response both at Phoenix clubs and in Toronto and courage men to learn good caring touch skills. After a few great nude dances, she asked if I was staying long, I asked any other nice dancers like you (intelligent and nice body and naturals). She said if I like black gals (yes if slimmer), she said Diamond did great artist type sensual stage dancers would be my body type, although she doesn't know about her private dances...since she has of course never had one from her. As we were leaving the VIP, she pointed out she was on stage, and when done she would direct her over to me. Back at my "sit" I turned down two dancers saying wanting for Diamond or a friend. Then, sure enough as Diamond was coming off the stage "C" directed her to me. I think she was somewhat surprised by the "referral" to another dancer. But this fits "C's" very helpful attitude. So I have a nice buried chat with Diamond, and to the rear, we go. Very nice small body, naturals just right size for me. From Canada but parent/s were from Trinidad reflecting her blackness. I was turned off originally by her black netting type body suit thing although with breasts exposed. I prefer more full body contact not via clothing. Then her net caught on my pen in pocket, and then it got caught on a button on my shirt. Then it got caught on her own watch! Enough of this she said as she took it off. Mentioned another gal suggested it in the change room but would never wear it again! Her dances were more like a sensual performance but not quite the same more my type I had with "C." But enjoyable for two dances and with good verbal discussion ( the song was almost impossible to dance to) etc. There were a few young really great looking gals, although sometimes a bit older better when I enjoy intelligence in discussion as long as body is my type. Could have enjoyed more dancers but. I have to catch up on work e-mails, check my pre-trip spreadsheets of companions to match who is available when, work on my schedule for next 9 days, meeting with friend for dinner sometime, have two museums want to go to and the airline simulator in Mississauga... in addition to maybe a visit to other clubs I always visit and other options. Also, the owners of Oasis club have been in contact and want to give me a tour next week. I may try New Locomotion later tonight. I use to enjoy years ago the original Loco as well as now long gone Cannonball. BTW the Landing Strip is a few blocks from my hotel. However, I have never considered for what I like per reviews. Also Hooters, but I have no interest in just being teased by the sexy waitress. I am also getting a very bad exchange rate conversion from CIBC ATM's, but exact real rate with RBC. Trying to find out why the big difference. ------------------------------------------- New Loco, Cafe Atlantis, Million Dollar Fri/Sat 6/3/2017 I headed out for New Loco about 11 PM. I got to an intersection at Renforth where my GPS said to turn right. But the right turn is closed due to construction. I tried to rest my GPS and find another way in. Then looked at map and gee Matheson is just ahead so why as the GPS trying to turn me here? Oh.... yes Matheson is next but about 100 feet off the ground going above Renforth! I ran around all over back streets trying find a another way in. But without a more detailed map and taking lost of time looking I gave up. Now looking at map I think I could find my way off Englinton sp? back to Matheson. Next stop Cafe Atlantis. Easy find my GPS. However, it was packed with standing room only with lots of guys standing (mostly young blacks). There were some good looking gals but figured my chances of being approached nil to none. So left before they got me for the required drink.. Just drinking and watching naked women dance is not my interest vs some direct contact and dances. I usually want to avoid weekend nights at clubs since usually so busy. But I headed over to Million Dollar just to see if any hope there. Was busy but not full. I found my usual seat/stool with back to bar area far right. Kind of a wild crowd. Some guy on stage being whipped by a dancer and then guy climbed to top of poll and stuff. The crowd and DJ were going wild, didn't really do anything for me. Quite a few good looking dancers but the too often problem of not being approached. Lots of gals standing around just talking guys, but not going for dancers, not many working the floor, seemed more like hanging out with friends. Although some did go by me with guys in hand to go upstairs. I could be more aggressive and approach a dancer but I rarely do. Some dancers like us old guys, others probably don't want to interact with Grandpa. So I wait in hopes of being approached by the right body type dancer (slimmer, smaller naturals and like tall but not that important). After about 30 minutes after my $6.75 diet coke (I wish the short cute Asian waitress was a dancer), I was about to give up when up comes Leslie. Not much introduction but right body type and friendly so up we go to her office. A few nice dances but nothing like with the two last night at Midway Invader. But very much worth the 2 songs. In a few more minutes approached by Roxy. Tall, exotic looking smaller my sized breasts, short intro like how are you, do you want a dance. I took a chance and up we went. Has some good conversation in lap before "our song" started. She is Indian (as in Asia). Is about 5-8 without her big spiked heels. Quite nice few dances and she mentions how nice my soft hands feel on her body and how I know what to do. Good experience. BTW, She calls herself Roxy... something.... after a song popular in the 80's. She was surprised I didn't know it so she sang a bit of it.. but I foget the Roxy something song title. Left about 1:30AM. -------------------------------------- Midway Invader Sun late night about midnight After Nude-reverse good massage at Obsession (separate report) decided to stop by MI since I had such a good time with C and Diamond on Friday afternoon. Didn't expect them to be there at night but...they were as well as other attractive gals. The waitress was cute with nice contact. I believe she said Lily (Asian) and said she use to be a dancer. I'd sure dance with her. Very friendly with lots of guys she sat with besides taking orders. At first thought, I would leave since so few customers and dancers working the floor. The in front of bar area had lots of guys who seemed to know each other and dancers. Only one table was taken with a a nice looking blonde sitting with two Indian guys talking and flirting. She kind of looked like "C" that I liked so much from Friday. Then they went to bar area near me. As I was about to give up being approached she hugged and left the guys and headed over to me (I had made some eye contact). She didn't remember me immediately, but I knew it was her when gave her name. Within about 30 seconds she remembered me as the great guy and off we went to her office. In the back of her office area, a guy was spread out in a booth, looking like he was by himself. "C" went over and insisted he had to leave the area if not with a dancer. Ah, the dancer was under something, and Ce quickly apologized for trying to kick him out since the dancer was hidden from view. C is one of the most outgoing, bubbly, friendly personality I've met and in a very friendly good way. As last Friday we had an immediate great connection as she enjoys the same sensual, quality intimacy (not sex) type of interaction. I told her I prefer more with an escort in bed but not in a VIP. She mentioned she had a hotel room and would make me a good deal (less than what she quoted Friday and realized I do Agency pricing at much lower). She was not trying to sell me hard but seemed sincere in wanting to be with me. But when I passed she didn't persist or anything. Was very polite, and a great my type of dancer and body. C works at MI various weekdays and only at night on Sunday. I have a lot to do yet back at the hotel with a busy calendar to organize so decided not to try and catch other dancers who were quite scared with such a small crowd. ------------------------------------------- Too long over the 1500 limit so continued Additional Comments: New Loco Search for Sassy Monday 11 PM 6/5/2017 A few days ago I got lost trying to find New Loco. Following my GPS just a few miles from my hotel, the right turn to take onto Matheson was closed for construction. I saw on the map it's the next street ahead so why is it trying to turn me here? Well, yes Matheson is next street... about 100 feet overhead going over the current street. I didn't know back way in to approach from other side so gave up and when to another club. Tonight I knew from studying map it was easy to approach another way. However, didn't need since no construction site so easy to get to, although it's a bit hidden from Matheson. From prior years visit, I recognized the area and found it. Not very busy Monday night but plenty of good looking gals. I would say probably the best assortment of my type of dancers that the other clubs I've visited the last few days. Took my usual seat on stools front of bar area (don't like to be "stuck" at a table but more easily seen where dancers walk by. Had my usual Diet Coke. Guy next to me was very talkative, and a couple of dancers thought we were together. A year ago I did a late run after settling into my hotel and didn't get to New Loco till 1:40 AM looking for a fast dance before closing. I immediately ran into Sassy and had a really nice dance/s before the club closed. Very sharp and a rare five on my 0-5 intimacy scale. I read that she still works here so wanted to try and find her. However had no idea what she looked like as it has been a year and I have a hard time remembering dancers looks since I see so many! There was a group of 3 dancers talking, and I told them I was wondering if they knew a Sassy and if she was working. Yes, think she is now (somewhere) being very helpful. One, cute with glasses Ashley offered to direct Sassy over to me once she came back. The dancers were all very willing to help me find Sassy. A while later a couple of dancers walked by led by Ashley saying here she is! However I wasn't sure which of the two was Sassy and passed me going somewhere else :( I never did find Sassy but had a great time with two others who were also a highest rare five on my intimacy scale. Ashley came to me and had a great conversation and my stand and then a few dances. Very nice body, my ideal and great touch interaction and my type of sensuality. From Nova Scotia Meika from Croatia - Also good conversation at my "stand" and good touch. At the Trio clubs I usually mention yes will do a few dances but I am not into extra's so I won't get the typical "sales" I have never been turned down for "just dances" however I have read reports that some dancers don't want to bother with us that aren't willing to pay for extra's. Not my interest in a VIP vs. in bed with a companion at a far better rate for the time. Well, between Meika's somewhat soft voice, the music noise and her slight accent, a few moments of confusion but then she kind of laughed saying she never does extra's, so that is great. She thinks she prefers the less liberal Toronto clubs, but it takes a long time to get licensed in Toronto vs. Sauga. continued since too long

The graphic I made of gals with Teddy I have put on my Canadian site at https://www.sexworkcanada.com/TEDDY.html

I loved these pictures this agency does with all its 25 companions. They each have different poses with Teddy as well as their own pictures and each has a video. All are in their 20's and stats shown. If only we could do this in the U.S. and I'd love to be their Teddy. Hourly rate is $CDN200/hour = about $US150/hour Attached is an image I put together of my favorite 5 shots, each is a different gal but they kind of look similar. AHHHH... why can't I attach jpg....manage attachment clicking makes like its trying open something (spinning blue thingy) but doesn't vs posting rule says I may. Ok it was a collage of 5 of my favorite pics of 5 of the 25 agency gals at the Montreal agency mojo. Each gal has a different pose with a HUGE Teddy - some quote provocative and cute. http://www.mojoescorts.ca/mojogirls

Since my interests are more sensual intimacy, and personality it is hard to find hints of that in most reviews. However, if I find a like minded guy from his review often I will check his reviews of others in a way of looking for more my type of companion. Coming from the U.S. usually only about once a year for 10 days at a time, there are so many choices and so little time...and money... and I do other things with friends in Toronto not just meeting gals. I do a great deal of pre-trip research as I am doing now. I am known on other boards for my spreadsheets - which makes it faster to match who is now available vs my A's on my spreadsheet!

I note to my Canadian friends, the report ignores that Canada is part of "America." Often articles assume only the U.S. is "America." Sorry for such ignorance down here. In 1970, 92% of all 30 year-old Americans were earning more money than their parents had earned at that age (adjusted for inflation). Today, that number has dropped to around 50%. That sizable decrease encapsulates why many people today have concluded that the American Dream is dead. Those pessimists include about 50% of all millennials. Still, while the unvarnished economics of the American Dream is deeply concerning, there is a silver lining. Itâ??s called Canada. The long podcast quoting from various research studies includes data on the percentage of kids born in the 1980's into low-income families made it to the top fifth of income distribution in various countries. In Canada it was 13%. That is still low but about twice as many as in the U.S. Why better in Canada? Less inequality - less distance between the 20th percentile and the 80th percentile in Canada, relative to America. The article goes into great detail on studies in the U.S. of factors why there are huge regional and local differences in the U.S. and how different programs have tried to help upward mobility. These include: Move to opportunity, equitable distribution, family, and social capital factors. A reader comments: Missing from this discussion is the fact that it is easier to get into the top 20% in Canada because the bar is much lower. To get into the top 10% USA puts you at about $113,000 USD/yr but in Canada to get to the top 10% only takes $68,130 USD/yr ($89,200 CAD). It is hard to find stats on the top 20% but I imagine the correlation still exists. A more accurate assesment would be if it is easier to reach the top 10% in Canada compared to the top 20% in USA, which are much closer in real dollars earned. Much more at [url]http://freakonomics.com/podcast/american-dream-really-dead/[/url] which includes a transcript of the podcast.

I doubt most guys have a "budget" but simply seek an escort when the mood is right and have some extra cash.

75-year-old indicted 12 felony charges for Mesa massage incall If convicted, the potential of decades in prison could be more than for 2nd-degree murder. All in private consenting adults. There is at least one other indicted that haven't yet been found and arrested. Charges include criminal enterprise, keeping a house of prostitution, conspiracy, 2 counts money laundering, 2 counts pandering 2 counts receiving earnings of prostitution, transportation for purpose of prostitution (hired an Uber to bring one of the women to condo) as well as two marijuana-related felonies. As reported by ABC15 on 4/18/2017, the investigation began in June 2016 involving a condo near Rio Salado Parkway and Dobson in Mesa. Surveillance of the property also allegedly showed multiple men and women coming to and from the condo in 30 and 60-minute increments. Police say inside the condo were massage tables in two bedrooms. Upon his arrest on April 12, xxxxx reportedly told police that he placed the ads and rented the condo, "so his female friends could perform massages at that location." He allegedly went on to describe 'massage' as various types of sex acts. (Dave notes he probably was confronted with statements from customers that were trafficked stopped after leaving and often a female undercover that tried to work for him as in most massage related or agency investigations). He also reportedly named seven adult women that were working at his condo, saying he would get $60 a day per girl for one customer and $100 a day per girl for more than one. http://www.abc15.com/news/crime/mesa-police-75-year-old-man-busted-for-running-prostitution-operation

At least if you break up with a SP friend no one pays alimony. More seriously, for me meeting SP is not all about sex but a connection for the moment that is more intimate than just physical sex. I have had zillions of these connections over the decade with SP's and some have become non-client friends. But often they move to another city (not to get away from me but in the U.S. cities like my Phoenix are very hard to work in due to all the LE stings). Or, if become close friends find they have issues I just do not want to deal with .. like drugs. to the OP it is normal to be concerned about a SP (or Megs concern on the other side). But once you have made contact by text/e-mail you have to move on and release the emotions or you might be seen as a "pest". As "Shut up and kiss me" suggested (I love that title), she may reply later and surprise you and have a very good reason why she went "silent." Sadly we have had that happen in Phoenix when a SP is busted and LE takes their phone and identity such as for P411 and pretends to be the SP to do verifications with other SPs as references to sting, answers calls from clients who solicit for sex etc... At least you don't have that risk in Canada. Additional Comments: BTW I had thought "shut up and kiss me" was female.. oops but still a good title.

"-a phone call requires both parties to be available for a conversation" Not really, voice mail works well in my view. I almost always leave long detailed messages why I called but often the "your time is up" message comes on too fast for long winded Dave. Why just leave a name and phone when you can save time by communicating what you were going to on the call, especially in business. A problem is sometimes a person I called returns my call seeing my caller ID while I am still leaving a message in voice mail or shortly after and hasn't heard the voice mail yet. No form of communcations is perfect!

Yes Trump has been a self-absorbed egotistical lying fraud all his life. But he can deceive millions to vote for his fake promises. Now reports of how Canada has to deal with folks from the U.S. escaping to Canada.

Danger from Hidden Cameras of customers In Toronto, some of the larger agency owners are reporting problems with hidden cameras filming sessions and fake outcall's. Many of the major outcall agencies have announced new policies of having to provide full names of customers and they will call hotels to confirm they are guests. Unlike in the U.S., references have never been needed - since no legal issues. Dangerous clients are rare since if anything bad happens, the Agency or driver will report to police or hotel security. Again this is "harm reduction" when it is all legal. Companions should be aware of how easy it is to conceal a camera and the potential risk of public distribution of such recordings as blackmail or to be sold as porn etc.

Regent 1) Please provide info on what you say have been body rub raids in Toronto. I know most of the owners. There have been issues with illegal Holistic Health Centers which are not licensed to do massage, with bylaw enforcement (not criminal) but not licensed adult body rubs that I know about i.e. Allure, SRM, etc. I would like to research what information you have. Likewise the zillions of agencies, incalls etc have had no reported C36 issues. The Russian agencies that use to be run by the mafia have closed but the gals were not in any trouble a few years ago. 2) It is not naive to think LE is taking hands off approach to non-street sexwork when major police chiefs issued press releases in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal soon after C36 was law. I know Winnipeg and Edmonton are more conservative. Edmonton requires escorts to have licensees as does Victoria B.C. However incalls were welcome in downtown Victoria long before it was legal under C36. The incalls use to be in Saanich until the Sheriff notified them they should move to Victoria. My only personal focus is Toronto. 3) Yes, the sex work law reforms groups of course also seek to decrim private sexwork. The reason they have always failed in the U.S. is because they INCLUDE street work which is a public nuisance. Most all Canadian cities to John stings of street work which is a totally different issue than private. Of course, the sex worker's rights groups don't think it is a public nuisance but the public and police do. Headlines in New Zealand just in the past week include: "Residents are finding used condoms in hedges and sanitary wipes in letter boxes, while construction workers have stood on needles. Resident Matt Bonis addressed a Christchurch City Council meeting today. He said people living on the corner of Manchester St and Purchas St were exposed to abuse from sex workers, robberies, littering of drug paraphernalia and even faeces on lawns." - Metro News NZ 4/6/2017 "We've had litter, we've had vandalism ..." Radio New Zealand - "Central Christchurch residents say they are under siege from sex workers, and one is threatening legal action if the city council does nothing." 4/17/2017 "Christchurch residents fed up with sex workers on the streets" - Family First org.nz 4/6/2017 The sexwork organization seem to be yelling, "Citizens be damned - we want to have the right to be a public nuisance on the streets!" 4) Of course, social programs to help issues of poverty, TS discrimination, etc. etc. etc. is needed. However, that is a totally different issue that public nuisance street hookers. Neighborhoods are tired of seeing condoms, drug needles or women afraid to walk around without being harassed by men looking for hookers. 5) I agree clients could be more active for getting rid of C36 related to non-street work. However, since it still has moral implications for many they are hesitant to become involved. Many have wives and families that they hide their activities from. In the U.S. private sexworkers other than a few don't want the legal exposure since we have a far more repressive system in the U.S. vs Canada. 6) Yes, the "victim" industry is strong both in the U.S. and Canada. The anti's have huge funding, religious backing and since they think they are fighting to "save" poor helpless abused sexworkers don't have supposed "righteousness" on their side vs the negative moral stigma. 7) Various polls and surveys in the U.S. depending on how its worded basically support not wasting LE resources going after in private consenting adults. But as soon as you include street work, the results have been overwhelmingly negative - for good reason... PUBLIC NUISANCE. Just like the uproar in New Zealand and pressure to re-criminalize street work.

I suggest a lot of the lack of communication skills from young ones is also the use of so much texting. I am an old baby boomer. I avoid any escort that says "text only". I just can not type any intelligent message in any reasonable time on a tiny little pad (even on my Nikia 1520 windows phone). I admire how some folks can make the fingers dance on those tiny spots but I guess I'm too old to learn the tricks. If I speed up I spend more time backspacing and typing over than going forward. I am use to large keyboards and when I travel with my laptop I take my wireless big keyboard with me vs even the laptop keyboard. Since my cell service is usually faster than hotel wi-fi I use cell phone as a hotspot and connect with laptop connected to full-size keyboard. I did recently get a fold-out Bluetooth keyboard that if I HAVE to text I can use a decent sized keyboard which is more like a laptop.

By posting more here of experiences. I have pretty much stuck to T board for my trip reports etc but used other boards when I was more active in Hamilton and Niagara Falls long ago. But I will try and remember to post here on upcoming tour. Some of us go back more than a decade and have habits of what boards we post on i.e. I have almost 2000 posts on T and I am not even in Canada but have a "following" for my somewhat unique interests in trip reports. A couple reply points. I avoid traveling gals at home or in Canada simply since if really "connect" with someone may want to see them again in a home city or where I travel to. I know Toronto very well - especially for my interests more than just typical escort interaction - and have friends there so that is where I have gone for like 20 years. Negative honest ads are very helpful for an analytical like me (CPA background). For months before my trips I do a pre trip spreadsheet of potentials or who to avoid. Since I have a physical preference (slim to medium build, natural breasts no larger than C and less defined "attraction." However, even more important is personality and sensuality (not just sex acts done) which comes from reviews. Negative reviews as well as positive help in the selection often from the many choices of agency or body rub websites.

The problem with most if not all of these organizations is they seem primarily about street work which is WAY different than in private consenting adults. Street work is a public nuisance and for example in New Zealand residence groups are going wild with complaints and pressure to change the law to outlaw street work. Businesses don't want it in front of them on sidewalks etc. Zones of tolerance seem the only practical solutions maybe in industrial areas away from residences and local businesses. However, when tried in Europe they have been mostly failures. In the U.S. SWOP has been a total failure for like 30 years. It almost won in a referendum in Berkley years ago except for the outrage that the ballot calling for the city to not enforce the State prostitution law from citizens saying "not on my street." Likewise the old San Francisco task force recommended not enforcing only after the residential representative walked out in protest. And these are probably the most liberal cities in the U.S. In Canada, C36 is basically in most cities only being enforced based on complaints about street work or if there is abuse, underage etc., but based on "harm reduction" little or no enforcement against in private consenting adults. Police Chiefs in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver have basically confirmed this in press releases after C36 was passed.

I was one of the first to use "GFE" on the alt.sex.prostitution newsgroup before there were websites using 300 baud dialups and packet readers. It had nothing to do with sex acts but as Mod suggests real interactions has humans for the moment, not about body parts or sex acts. My interest now 40 decades later is still more intimacy for the moment, not just the usual stuff. Unfortunately, guys seeking unhealthy and now illegal acts have hijacked the original meaning of GFE "Girlfriend Experience." Thoughts from very old Dave in Phoenix!

Actually I meant Vancouver as foutunateone noted. Victoria has always been great with agency incalls on the main street downtown and for a decade police only make sure over 18. The incalls use to be in Saanich until the Sheriff warned them they needed to move and then Victoria seemed to welcome them.

Manluvsex - Yes the Chili and one of their sandwiches I love - but been a year since been to one since only when I am in Toronto - walk from hotel. Coffee isn't my draw am not fussy but like Tim's for their chili and the bread in their sandwiches. Can't wait to be back next week :)