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I agree that discretion is the cornerstone of our relationships in this business and I do hope cooler heads prevail in that thought as far as outing these hypocrites. I also understand the frustration of it all but I agree with fortunateone that fear of the unknown doesn't help us. Right now, everything is speculation as to how all of this will play out. I refuse to live in a state of fear over an unknown but I do understand that fear is a strong human emotion that is hard for people to overcome. We all tend to get irrational to some degree when fear clouds our judgement. So let's just wait and see how this plays out. Like it's been said, I've been committing illegal acts the whole time I've been in this lifestyle and I will continue to do so but I will keep my wits about me and be intelligent about what I am doing, just as I always have been. I doubt anyone will be "outing" my sorry ass anyway. Nothing to gain by it.:grin:

Obviously, nothing out in cyberspace is "totally secure" but you brought up NSA and CSEC so that is why the response. Sorry if it offends, didn't mean to. It's just when mentioning stuff like that, paranoia is the first thought that comes to mind. Conspiracy theories and all that stuff, right. Maybe just say BBM isn't totally secure and leave it at that and you won't get the response you did. Again, my apologies if offense taken.

I'm with you RG. The killer, then the courts, then the media continue to victimize this young lady and for what? Because she is/was native and a sex trade worker? Facts that should never, EVER have any bearing on this case. This asshat gets stoned and drunk, can't get it up so he chokes the life out of her.Not only that, he tried to dispose of the body. Yes, when he sobered up, he came clean but that was likely only because he realized that he would be caught anyway. What really bothers me is this notion that he should get any leniency at all because he is A) white B) a jock and C) can afford a high priced mouthpiece. Even now, he blames it all on the drugs and doesn't take full responsibility. Yes, it is only day parole but imo, he should never see the light of day again. Murder is murder and this is not justice.

Okay, I don't know if anyone has heard of this or seen it and I'm not sure if this is the right place to post it but here goes anyway. I saw this article on another forum and frankly, I'm disgusted that this is our system of justice. While they want to make criminals of all of us, they allow this killer to walk the streets even though he doesn't accept responsibility for his actions. The victim's family, understandably is appalled and dismayed, to say the least. Here's the link. link to the Calgary Sun article.

As for NSA and CSEC, I'm with ice and others, let's not go overboard with the paranoia here. They have much more important shit to deal with in a world on the verge of total destruction. Yes, LE will be a little more vigilant for awhile after the new legislation comes in and will want to "make an example" of some "pervert" out here. I'll tell you what, I'll fall on my sword if need be and publicize my info. Let them come and get me and try to prove anything in a court of law. They have to prove I am purchasing sex (I never talk about money with an SP, ever and never mention sex in email or text or PM or whatever). As I said before in my earlier post, I already give the ladies more info without being asked. I don't care if they know who I really am and how to reach me.

I would have to say none of the above, although soon single/divorced, hopefully. Been living 1000+ miles away from her for 3 years, not legally separated but might as well be. Marriage was the biggest mistake of my life. I've hated virtually every minute of it. Before that, tried the dating scene, hated it. FWB/ fuck buddies doesn't work. They say no strings and before you know it, want to move in and take it to the "next level". Frankly, this is the only lifestyle that fits my needs. The sex is great and I can be friends with the lady without any entanglements. Am I selfish? Yes, I am but I prefer solitude most of the time and this hobby allows me to have a release while not compromising my personal space. It is also far safer than some of the alternatives, imo.

Well, I just scrapped FB. I just can't stand all the bullshit on there and things like this annoy me no end. I think FB has gotten totally out of hand with crap like this. You have no real privacy regardless of your settings because they monitor everything once your email is tied to them. You can put up all the firewalls and what- not and they will be okay for awhile, then, boom, FB finds a way around them and you are at it again. At least that's my experience with them. I'm not super tech savvy though and don't know how to do a lot of the advanced protection stuff either so maybe others have better luck.

For me, the chemistry isn't really something that I can say is a factor because I never know how that will be until we actually meet. I would say that looks are a very small pert of things as I am attracted to a vast variety of ladies. Reviews are something that plays a small part but they can be subjective. Honestly, if I were to say what makes the decision more often than not, it's the ads/website wording and language. I read the entire thing, not just rates and services and look at the gallery. A well written introduction and description can go a long way to giving me an idea of who I am to meet. I like intelligence, a certain sophistication and class and mostly, a great sense of humor and wit. I'm attracted to ladies that have fun in what they do and aren't afraid to show their nerdy, geeky side even. A great sense of humor and laid back attitude are a huge turn-on for me.

A good piano ballad is always good. John Legend/ All of Me has some serious sex appeal in the video.

Well, I am going to be 55 next month and without bragging too much, look like I'm late 30's or early 40's, especially the physique. However, the aches and pains of arthritis, tendinitis, muscle strain etc remind me daily that I am indeed much older than 40. :grin:

A lady after my own heart. Some of my favorite musicians on your list. Brothers in Arms is one of my all-time favorite songs and albums. And love most anything by E.C. Also a huge Carlos Santana fan and SRV as well.

I think this is one of those things like age preference, body type, looks or whatever that we have discussed before. Different strokes for different folks (pun intended). For me, it is mostly GFE but that varies as well. Each time is something a little different, even when I repeat with a favorite lady. That's part of what keeps it interesting and fresh. I don't really have any particular service that's a "must have". As the other guys have said, it's more about just being in the company of this beautiful woman and letting things develop naturally. The really great ladies have a way of knowing exactly how to proceed and lead me to where I want to go, even if I don't know where that is.

I have no problem giving a lady my full name and email address. I usually do that anyway. Hell, I'll count my pubic hairs and give you an itemized list if it pleases you. (okay, that may be going a little too far). In all seriousness though, I have no problem with some type of verification process if required. I don't hide much and don't much care who knows what. I will echo the sentiment about it being an established provider with some track record. Of course, I really don't go out on a limb with the BP types, etc. anymore so it's a moot point.

I agree wholeheartedlly with that sentiment. I know that there are those out there who just want to make the LG happy and don't care about things like the nuances of the language. But I love, love, love reading a well written, intelligent, thought provoking ad. It can, for me, enhance the potential meeting and make it even a better experience. The prose can be sensuous, funny or whatever. Just don't give me some generic, run of the mill stuff. If a guy wants that just stick to BP and CL, imho. And ladies, it is unfortunate that some guys claim to read your ad or website and then still ask questions that are clearly stated as "no-nos" to ask. Like negotiating, bb or whatever it may be. This is why these forums are so important to keep going. Guys have to heed these words of advice and everybody will be happier in this hobby. A happy SP who hasn't been railed with asinine bullshit all day makes for a happy client (me, hopefully:biggrin:), when the encounter happens.

I can't see it as a problem. If anything, it would probably put my mind at ease knowing the place is safer to a degree. Hell, we've all likely lived in or had friends who lived in apartment buildings with buzzers over the years, right. I do agree that a building with security people asking where you are going could be an issue, more so for the SP than the client though. I mean, after about a month of different guys coming and saying, "I'm visiting a friend in Apt 218.", it might set off some warning bells, right. And not even thinking escort, they might start thinking drug dealer or whatever.

Nobody ever denied that the cops would do this. This was obviously a sting set up for under age girls working on the streets and the men that are cruising the back alleys, so to speak. This is something that is done regularly and will still be going on when C36 comes in. Yes, they have resources for this. And again, this is in a more major city where local LE do have more manpower. Any of my comments that I have posted regarding this has more to do with LE in smaller places and with the notion that they will target a single reputable SP residence and try to nab each guy one at a time or that they will somehow sit and monitor emails and texts looking for that one needle in the haystack. I don't see them devoting as much effort into the scenarios I just mentioned is all I've stated.

That is my thinking too. I have worked with and known several RCMP officers over the years. There are a few who can be hard asses but the vast majority use common sense and good judgement and they understand that the courts are already too overloaded and the jails are too full. They also understand that some legislation is flawed and only serves to increase their already heavy workload while making the politicians look good in the eyes of the general populace. The gun registry was that type of law just as this law is.

I do agree that LE may try to pull a few stings here and there in major cities where they have some flexibility in their budget. But only at first, imo, just to appease the politicians. I can't say for sure and I don't know what forces like OPP will be like. However, I find it highly unlikely that the more remote areas where a small detachment of RCMP is the only law in town, will actually devote a quarter of their force to investigate and target any more than they are now. Some time back, I was having some "pillow talk" with an SP friend and she said the cops came to her motel room one day. All they wanted to know was that she was of legal age and not being coerced or forced by a pimp. They knew full well that she was using the room as an incall (which is still illegal, btw) and didn't really care. They were just concerned with her safety and nothing more. Of course, up here in the north country, LE has a different perspective about the laws and how to enforce them.

I agree , especially the bold text. This is modern society in a nutshell. We have become lazy in everything we do and along with the laziness is impatience. It's like a bunch of adhd 4 year olds who want everything right now and are clueless about anything outside their aura. As for myself, I love a well thought out ad or website that shows me more than just a few sexy pics and the basics in simplified terms. That may be just me though. I'm not sure. Regardless of how it's written, it would serve us all well to take the time to read before we pick up the phone and start texting. I understand that the LG is hard and wants to play but we still have a brain somewhere, don't we?

Well, for me, I don't see things changing at all or at least, very little. I already don't talk about services, rates etc. on texts and emails. I also only deal with established reputable providers. I use boards like this one and CAF regularly so I know who these ladies are to some degree and then there are the ladies that I have repeat business with. We will figure it out pretty easily. As the case is now, discretion is key. I do understand those that are afraid of the criminal record part. If you are in a job that requires a certain amount of discretion and possible foreign travel, that could be problematic for sure. The thing there is by using the tools we have already described, the odds of actually being arrested and charged go down dramatically. L.E. are not going to be going out looking for the one guy visiting one lady. They don't have the time, resources or the inclination to do so. Now the fool who is trolling the backstreets looking for streetwalkers is another story. The biggest problem I am having with the discussion is the completely over-the-top paranoia that seems to be arising from some. "The cops will assign an officer to sit at a desk and monitor e-mails all day and radio out each time there is a meeting set up" was one I read a while back. That is not going to happen, they have much bigger fish to fry. Or another was "they will park outside a known providers incall location and harass every guy that goes in". I mean really, that is just silly. A 20 unit condo complex and they try to bust everybody? The biggest one that I see quite often is the talk of being sent to jail. No judge in his right mind will send a guy to jail for this regardless of how the law is written. Hell, they are hard pressed to send and keep the real sexual predators in jail. If a judge did give jail time, it would be overturned on appeal quickly and the law would be fast- tracked to demolition and all those involved in the justice system know this. For myself, I just am not worried about it. It is not worth the stress and like an old song says "stop wishing for bad luck and knocking on wood".

This made me laugh. Why contact an SP if you have no money? Do they honestly think they can charm her into giving it to them for free? You gotta know their idea of a "nice restaurant" is Denny's. I guess Denny's is a "nice" enough place, lmao.

As for myself, obviously, I'm in an area that doesn't really give me the opportunity to see many CERB ladies unless they happen to tour up this way. If/ when I do get an opportunity to get out east and possibly visit one of you lovely ladies, I would hope that I could get a reference from someone that you all would consider reliable. Having said that, most of my experience out here in the west is with ladies from CAF as the ladies from Alberta are the ones coming to my area, more often than not. So far, I have yet to be asked for a reference. Part of this is to do with posting reviews and getting positive responses to those reviews. I would think that another part is having conversations with some SPs that give them a better idea of what I am like. Of course, maybe some of them have pm'ed each other and asked without my knowledge. Now, I know all too well that people can portray themselves on message boards and chat rooms as upstanding, honest and respectful people and be completely different behind closed doors. This is a real legitimate concern for all you ladies but I would like to think there would be some weight given to how we behave and respond on here as well as some reference from reputable SPs out there. Correct me if I am wrong. Fwiw, I am quite willing to try and fulfill a ladies wishes for some type of idea of who they are about to see. Your safety and security are of utmost importance as is ours.

Watching "The Third Man" on Netflix and having my post dinner cup'o'coffee and chocolate cookies. Trying to decide if I have room for fresh peaches and cream for dessert.:icon_biggrin:

Well, as someone who has a grandchild that is 18, I have trouble seeing someone that young. The thing is though, it's hard to put a number on this. Normally, I would say that I prefer above 25 because of what has already been stated. However, my ATF, as it were, is 24 and loads of fun. She also is mature beyond her years and we have fantastic conversations about everyday life. A little while back, I saw a 22 year old and she also, was quite mature and our chemistry was great. Normally though, the ladies in their 30's who have been around this for some time seem to be able to make my experience more enjoyable just because we relate to each other a little better and her experience shines through.

Wow, this is a tough one for me. I have never been one to pay a lot of attention to scents. My sense of smell is not all that good at the best of times but as long as it isn't too strong, I'm okay with most of them. I guess the earthy tones would be my preference if any. I had no idea that lavender was effective for the libido. Go figure.:biggrin: