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That's an interesting perspective but it seems questionable to me. When I see a woman in this environment I am seeing her because she wants my money and I want other things. It sounds entitled to say that because you are a repeat client that you don't need to tip. Tipping is optional but I don't think you need to justify beyond saying choose not to. In my perspective if I am bringing the woman something special to me, like a book or music it is to enhance my gfe fantasy. I don't expect that she sees them as meaningful gifts to her. They are props in a role play. I think that once we rip away our own agenda, the only thing that the lady wants from us, like someone mentioned before is cash. If I want to reward her with a gift it will be by giving her the one thing she is asking for, on top of any props I might bring along. I think that the reputable women who have already given their feedback quite clearly have a better perspective on what a woman would like than we do. I'll follow their advice. I also bring meat to my visits but I expect her to be the expert with it. DS

I don't believe there is a magic recipe to please a woman like you describe. In my experience if the woman is really into you and finds you hot she will find pleasure in the intimacy of you being down there, unless you are completely unskilled. If she isn't into you there is no amount of tongue acrobatics that will get you there. There is no magic technique that will charm all women. A woman will fake it to make you think she loves it, or she will fake it to make you think she is done so you stop. I'm good with that lol. Like one of the guys said before me. I pay her to fake it! As long as I'm paying for a service I'll always assume one of us is enjoying the pleasure while the other enjoys the pay! DS

I noticed my curiosity peaking on another thread so rather than take it off topic I thought I would start my own. I am curious about the experiences both guys and ladies have in their sessions and how real life pressures, and expectations map into this industry. Studies say that 90 percent of women have faked an orgasm, and that they do it 50 - 70 percent of the time I wonder how those statistics reflect on experiences and perception here. To the ladies: Do you fake orgasms with your clients? If so how frequently? Do you feel the same expectation to fake an orgasm that you would with a real life partner? To the guys: Do you believe you give the ladies you see that level of pleasure? Assuming that she is faking 70% of the time based on the above stats, does it matter? Before we let our ego's lead the way and say we always give the desired result, or you always get off with clients, think about it. I am really curious what the perceptions are, given that most of what I have read on the forums is in opposition to what sexual studies say is really happening. Looking forward to some interesting discourse. Deepstrut

Its interesting to see how everyone is approaching this from their own perspective with very little being asked of the OP in terms of his motivation. The question was is this a good way to cope with loneliness. We have gone down the road of is this a good place to learn to be with women, is it a negative act in society, and are the relationships real. Ill address each with my own opinion, fully expecting that each comment will hit a nerve. Are the relationships real and mutually fulfilling. Yes they are fulfilling in that the guy gets a service and the lady gets paid. Making the assumption that the lady is doing this for her own physical pleasure is a significant leap. I have known a few SP's as friends over the years, and I can tell you for 99% of the guys they see its about what they are willing to do, not what they are wanting to do. Do I think its all oooh's and aaaah's? absolutely I do.... What is the criteria we are using to think that its a real connection? Has she tossed the financial arrangement out the window and started seeing you for free? I think in an industry based on providing a fantasy for money its safer to assume that the connection is that, just fantasy. In most cases from the the lady is just hoping to not have a negative disrespectful experience. She certainly isn't excited. There are those rare exceptions but we should advise based on the likely outcome not the rare chance. I stand by my original statements. If you are deeply lonely, the likelihood of you finding anything other than a band-aid is slim. Very few of the ladies see themselves as mental health coaches, and none should make the dangerous proclamation that they provide that service. They provide a level of physical intimacy as a business, and in return they are well compensated. Without knowing the OP all I can say is that you need to seek the source of your loneliness. If you feel generally okay with yourself and are lacking the time or social circle to engage in a relationship that fills your intimate needs, then go have some fun. If you find yourself feeling alone and generally unhappy, you need to find out what causes that before you slap a band-aid on it, as it can be a very addictive hobby. As for choosing a provider, if you want the outcome that is being suggested by the other contributors, you should seek a more mature provider, and someone who is very active on CERB in her communication not just one line ads. If ladies are banned from CERB as you mentioned there is likely a reason that will be detrimental to your experience. If you are looking for a connection don't seek the hottest 20 year old SP, seek someone who offers more than just the longest menu. Again, don't just leap in assuming you won't hit bottom.

I'm fairly new here, and rarely post but I have been following this thread. I am not sure I agree with the consensus advice that's being given here. I will comment on two topics. The original question as to whether this is a good method to cope with loneliness, and the concept that this is a good training ground to learn to be with women. In my opinion I think the answer to both is no. If you are a person who feels very alone, and most of us have been there, seeing a lady under these false circumstances will likely make you feel worse in the end. There are two outcomes when you are going for that reason. You will either have a visit that doesn't meet your hopes and you will be left feeling more empty than before, or if you do fall into the fantasy you will find it difficult to cope without it and go through something similar to withdrawal. I really question the concept that this is a good training ground to learn to be with women. Learning is about trial and error, falling down and getting back up. Does a kid who can't sing improve by their mother telling them they are a star? It's the same concept, there is no learning to seduce a woman when her job is to tell you that you are sexy, and funny and the most charming man on the planet. It just feeds an illusion that will make you disappointed in the end. I have been down both roads, and believe that the best way to take advantage of this hobby is to enjoy the physical aspects of it as an escape, but avoid it if you emotionally need it. This is a business where a lady can offer you the opportunity to explore your sexuality, but its not a safe place to feed your emotional health. You will feel the high of the drug when you are with the lady, but the low afterwards can be difficult. This is just my opinion, the other side of the coin. No offense to the other contributors, but it read to me like a lady trying to seduce you to visit, and a guy trying to sell you on how awesome this drug is for him. If you are questioning it, and the people who know you question it for you, then maybe this isn't for you. Think hard and make sure you are prepared for all of the things it might bring up in you. Best of luck in whatever you decide. DeepStrut

I have only seen a couple of ladies, as this is a hobby for me. I have tipped both encounters, and felt like it was appreciated, I was glad that I did for the feeling I left with. The fact that it wasn't expected made it feel even more appropriate. Whether it's proper etiquette or not wasn't really a thought in my head. I know it made me feel good to go that little bit extra just for the pleasant reaction. This is an interesting topic, thanks for the great advice...