Wolf Knight

Sipping coffee, heading to a meeting.

Nat, There are so many falsehoods that surround this business on both sides. Quiet frankly , in my everyday life I'm quite sure that nobody would surmise that I choose to enjoy the company of companions. I don't have that "seedy" factor that many wrongly assume about clients and companions. I take my small kids who I adore to swimming lessons and sit with all the other parents waiting for my daughter at her dance lessons. I always make sure that whenever possible I'm home to brush my kids teeth, read them their story and put them to bed. I'm silly and can reduce myself to a child to play with them and relate to the world on their level. I'm an excellent Dad. I'm at the top of my profession, wear a suit almost every day and day in, day out I professionally present the image of walking the straight and narrow. Despite the irony, I am an excellent supportive husband that actually worships his wife and thanks the stars every day that she is in my life. I volunteer for charities, play music and sing at old age homes to entertain throughout the year in an attempt to just contribute a little bit more. To the outside world I present the epitome of having my life together. I'm sure I'm not alone in this there are other clients who's own story mirrors mine. Just as you state many of us clients are in fact just "real everyday people". We all have our own personal reasons why we choose to enjoy the company of companions but for many of us that reason is not that, "nobody else would have sex with us unless paid". It's so much more broad and can't just be reduced to "dollars for sex". Yes there is sex, but in my case it's more about an aspect of intimacy and closeness that I crave and sometimes that's just simply the sensation of a beautiful ladies hand in mine as we lay together. Beautiful, simple and definitely not "gross". I don't know if I explained myself or my thoughts properly but it can just be summed up by saying, "I'm an everyday real man".

Desperately wanting to help a friend who's life just imploded but having to respect boundaries and what my "place" in all of it is.

Kim is back on Monday coming! Her ad is up on another site commonly used in NL.

Knowing our very small market here in St. John's very well and based on the OP's profile indicating that he's visited with "all" ladies offering services here I can make a few assumptions. The "oldest" (I use this tongue in cheek) companion that he could have visited with would be 42 (seriously she looks 20) then maybe 2 or 3 in the early to mid thirties age bracket and a bunch in the 21 to 29 age range (with the range being skewed toward the younger end). So hopefully that will provide some context regarding age and what's considered "old". Given that right now we have the highest number of providers working that we've ever had and a quick check puts that at about 20ish right now we can perhaps assume that the OP has indeed seen all of them we're looking at about 20 ladies, 3 or 4 above 30 and about 17 below 30 with 10 ladies less than 25. Cheers

Tick, tick, tick..................KABOOM!

Damian709, As I'm from you're neck of the woods so I'll welcome you to cerb. The quality or success (what I assume you mean by top bookers) of a companion has nothing to do with age. It has all to do with how that lady interacts with her clients and the experience that she provides. If your "experience" has been that YOU have enjoyed your time with younger ladies more than mature ladies then that's great. Stick with what works for you. I personally have had some of MY best experiences with ladies that would be considered (lol) older. Their intellect and innate ability to understand what I as a client need has been no doubt brought on by their experience and the understanding that the experience is not just about sex. For your first post you decided to poke a bit of a potential hornets nest so please be careful. I recommend that you take your time and read the whole newbie area and become familiar with cerbs rules and tone. It might save you from getting stung. Hmmmm.......ending a post with "what do you think?" seems a little familiar to me, not sure why. Best of luck

They are not all scams, there is one that I have used that's legit. However, for NSA fun you'll want to be careful to seek out like minded people. Once you sift through the fake's (there are lost of website cam models on there on there posing to try to get you to sign up) and time-wasters you'll definately find a group of people who imbrace "the lifestyle". When you manage to track down the right person you'll find that possibiliies will be opened up to you via word of mouth. In most cases the interaction you'll find will have nothing to do with "dating" at all. For the serious people it's all about sex and pleasure. If you are a person that has a specific physical type that you are looking for you're better off to stick with professionals and cerb. I will say that on those sites "all" ladies will have plenty of suitors and partner options (males out number females heavily). Basically, just like here on cerb and other adult sites there are MANY guys who are creeps (check out my junk shot type people) so behaving like a gentleman does really stand out. Just like on here once you're known to be a trustworty good "normal" guy doors will open up for you. A rule of thumb, on those sites if it seems too good to be true, it is a fake. Just as an additional comment, POF "cleaned" itself up last year and removed most of the NSA "lifestyle" minded accounts so now it's pretty much just actual dating. So if you're looking for NSA you won't find it on POF. However there are other places where it does exist and NSA is the actual order of the day.

It comes down to a matter of trust. The more that a client attempts to "hide" from you the less trust you'll have in that client. As dave pointed out the general rule for most ladies is safety first and one aspect of that is the no blocked call rule. Plus on another note time-wasters and douchebags will often hide behind the blocked call to play games with the lady without being caught.

I've discovered for me that sex without chemistry is pretty "blaw" and I have little interest in it. So for me it's that there is a strong "real" chemistry and genuine mutual attraction between a lady and I. Physical attributes play very little role for me. Mentally, if we're a good match then the laughter and sense that we feel like old friends seems to come easily. I guess that ladies I have visited with the most on a return basis have all openly expressed that they actually enjoyed our time together as much as I did. That inherently makes me feel good and want to return.

I'll have to defer to Emily's picks because there is no way in hell I'll ever do the amount of criss-crossing this country that she's done. For me I've hit all the "major" cities in my travels and found that I always prefer cities that "feel" small but have all the amenities that you'd want. Cities that have an identity beyond the buildings and there is an innate sense of a cultural presence. A sense that people know who they are and where they belong. That's one reason I agree with Quebec City noted above. Not sure why, but I've always had a soft spot for Halifax perhaps it's related to all my fond memories of spending time there with my friends sailing and it's relative proximity to the beautiful communities of Mahone Bay.

Seriously, $40 worth of candy at the bulk barn. (honestly I went in to get a bag of bird feed) I have a feeling that perhaps my next post might say that I've bought a new belt or a set of dentures.

I don't mean to hijack my own thread but because you're new I want to highlight this one point. I'll impart a little knowledge to you for whatever it's worth. The phrase, "you get what you pay for" is a good one in most instances however, I will tell you as many clients can attest, price should be considered a VERY POOR indicator of what type of experience you'll have with a companion. I have had experiences at the $200 price point that have equalled and exceeded those at the $400 price point. The reality is that you'll just "click" with certain ladies differently and thats what makes the experience. Thanks for indulging my hijack.

Really sorry to hear. When you say Maritimes I assume that you meant Atlantic Provinces including NL. I've heard "stories" that some traveling ladies have encountered an increasing level of bullshit here in St. John's in particular. I know that for our relatively small city (and small market) for a long time touring ladies represented and wonderful opportunity for clients that enjoy variety to experience some truly elite companionship experiences. In recent years, in particular this year, there has been an explosion of sorts in the number of ladies offering services. Some of those ladies like Savannah are truly elite companions with class and a certain something that sets them above the rest. Sadly, everyone does not carry that approach and so we've seen some issues as a result. Hopefully, it's just growing pains for an industry that seen a lot of new providers and those that think that they need to knock the competition to hold their place or succeed will eventually fade off into oblivion. As another, poster noted, it would be sad to see you have to write off a whole area of the country but in reality it's a business and in the east an expensive one. If you find it difficult to make a business case for visiting and sharing your company with clients in this end of the country then you really have to act in your own best interest.

Started at 38 years old in March this year (I think). 17 ladies, 32 encounters, 47 wonderful hours.

A turkey and veggies.

Although, Missy (Melissa) is a CERB member she not particularly active on CERB these days. This is due primarily to the fact that she a Vancouver companion and typically generates many of her clients from another Board. Make no mistake she is still very active as an SP. That said, I have had the great fortune to have met Missy on a recent trip and just wanted to leave a note for any travellers to the west do yourself a favour and look her up if you're in the area. I had a three hour appointment with Missy at my hotel and with out going into details I can honestly say that it was an awesome experience. Her personality was light and interesting and conversation was easy and fun. Without getting into details our playtime included all things that would be expected in a GFE and PSE encounter (Started out GFE and evolved to PSE). I have to state that if you view Missy's profile here on CERB and her photos you will see and EXACT representation of what she looks like. Some of the photos might be a little older (couple of years) but I assure you she still looks the same. Beautiful! So if you're headed to Vancouver and looking for an amazing companion to share some time with visit with Miss Mariposa.

Shit, I intended for this thread to be at it's core educational in nature as opposed to confrontational. However, it's turned into a bit of a pissing match. I started as a client a while ago and did genuinely carefully try to read everything posted here and on ladies websites and consciously follow all the stuff that is considered a "good client". In fact, I was even a little anal about it. I know that along the way I did a lot of stuff correctly and "by the book" but given the opportunity to be introspective I recognize that I have also fucked up here and there. One of the areas that I now realize where I messed up was this one, time-wasting. I'm not too good to be told and I expect to called on shit if I pull it and own the consequences. Although never truly malicious in intent, after pondering I have to realize that in some situations I personally have given wonderful ladies just cause to believe I am a time-waster. I personally own that "tag" if a lady believes it's justified. Further, it's not for me to determine if it's justified and try to excuse my way out of it. After all it's me who asks their companionship not the other way around. Lets just cut through the wasted posts and let the thread get back to being a useful advice tool for clients to use to ensure that they don't find themselves with the tag of time-waster. It's something that clients don't want to get and ladies don't want to have to give. Cheers

I guess so far we can determine that there are quite a few reasons that a client might be a time-waster. Everything from a failure to diligently conduct adequate research on a lady before contacting her to wanting to be her friend and "just chat" with no intention of booking to habitual bookers and cancellers along with many more reasons. For education purposes it's good to share and as I'd expect in a thread of this sort, vent as well. Some things that a client may consider potentially innocent like the outcall hotel room noted above could actually turn out to be a strike against him with a lady. Me personally, a long time ago I booked a visit with a lady then a couple of days before the date I had to cancel on her. I know that this lady was more than a little PO'd and I'm sure that she felt that I was a time-waster (and maybe a canceller) in that situation. In fact I had really wanted to see her and at my next opportunity I contacted the lady again and in a show of good faith I actually sent that lady an e-mail transfer for the full value of the date (weeks in advance). I only did this for one reason, trust and as a result we had a wonderful experience. As Savannah pointed out earlier trust is a corner stone of SP/client interactions and anything like time-wasting among other things that erodes that trust will sour any interactions that you might want to have. Thanks for sharing your thoughts everyone, hopefully there's something among this to use as a learning experience.

Cristy, yeah you're probably right. It's likely not a numbers thing and the interaction will likely be as individual as the people having it. Some ladies with some clients or potential clients might choose to engage in a variety of back and forth scenarios as long as it appeared that things were moving in the direction of a date. Also, Realnicehat had a good point that struck to the "intent" of the communications with the lady. If the intent is genuine with the ultimate purpose honestly being that the client intends to see the lady then perhaps it's not a factor of numbers either. Thanks for the contributions.

I'm not new to this but I recently was given the opportunity to ponder on all my interactions with Companions and in particular evaluate if I might be considered a time waster. No potential good client would ever want to be considered a time waster by a lady or the SP community in general. So I thought that I'd post this thread to get some perspectives and opinions on how a client should behave/interact to ensure that someone doesn't get labeled a time waster. I'll start with one of my thoughts. When a new client contacts an SP I think that he should generally use the "three message rule". The first couple of times a client contacts a lady are acceptable to gather information or ask respectful questions but by the third time he should be ready to book a firm appointment. If he's not ready to book after three then he should not contact that lady again until he is ready to firmly book. This is just my thought but people can feel free to enlighten me if there are other opinions. Another aspect is interactions between Clients and SP's who have seen each other previously. I know that it might be a subjective area depending on the lady but I'd like to get some thoughts on what's deemed an appropriate level of contact in between appointments in that case. Three message rule again (start as though from scratch)? Only contact the lady when you're ready to firmly book again? Periodic (brief) hello's, just thought of you type messages? Frequent friendly chatter? Please provide any other thoughts :) Please contribute your opinions to provide some guidance to newbies or veterans to help make everyone's life, especially the ladies better. Cheers

I can't really recommend any one specific lady for you because as has been pointed out most (if not all) of the ladies prefer mature gentleman. I note that you are new and as such it can be overwhelming to gaze upon the wealth of beautiful ladies here on CERB and try to determine which lady will be the best fit for you. However, your least worry is that you're trying to find a lady that prefers mature gentleman. This might be open for debate but there is a reason that most of the ladies prefer mature gents, specifically many actually state in their ad's or on their websites that they prefer the company of men over the age of 35. Older gentleman as clients, have had life experience and often don't have sexually "something to prove". Although they might enjoy sex itself they often look for intimacy and as sense of "companionship" in their encounters. For the lady, having a gentleman like this usually means he's more respectful and will not just treat the lady like an object. He care's as much about "her" experience as he does his own. Based on your limited list of requirements you focus on kissing as a key component of your encounter which tells me that intimacy and tenderness are likely important to you. Many ladies, will take a mature gentleman who desires a intimate, tender sensual encounter over a young guy who thinks porn is how sex is supposed to be and will just pound away at a lady with little regard for her desires. The key to it all is forget your age, it's just a number. Just be a clean, respectful "gentleman" (chivalry should not be dead) who follows all the ladies boundaries and requests (to the letter) and I guarantee that any lady will be open to seeing you as a client.

My afterglow is often dependant on the lady and the connection and chemistry that existed during the encounter. I tend to play in the daytime and in the morning in particular so I'll usually get the glow to carry though the rest of the day and I'll fall asleep to images of my experience. However I have been extremely fortunate that I have met some ladies who value the connection and chemistry (beyond the sex)as much as I do and in those cases there was a build up of tension and attraction before the encounter. In those situations, I carry a tingle with me perpetually and when I think of them or even see their name mentioned on Cerb I get super vivid flashbacks and a tingle in my spine. Truthfully, they probably be with me forever, it was that amazing.

Congrats Miss Laurence, you're a pillar of his community and bring a lot to many important discussions. Thank you for your contributions.

Nivea Men products are nice too and pretty subtle in their scent. For incall I'd stick to products that have little or no scent for discretion purposes. the one that Emily J noted is great the scent is very soft and what you can smell just smells clean and not cologne like. I have used it and it'll never result in anyone being tipped off because of a scent.