Rambler1980

Google image search would show she is probably "Melissa Carvalho" from San Paulo Brazil, someone stole her pics to run a scam. I always recommend a reverse image search at minimum via google.

I go even further. I won't send a deposit to anyone I haven't met before. There's way too many good providers out there, I'm not risking sending money to someone I've never met and with whom I have zero recourse if they rip me off.

Not trying to stir any controversy, this is a legit question. I can understand lots of people might not like what he was trying to organize, but what Lyla rule(s) did he violate? I don't think he was trying to profit from a facebook group, he didn't even post publicly. Like I said, I can understand if you oppose what he was up to, but just unsure how running afoul of public opinion turned into a ban within 30 minutes, can't think that left any time to even get his side before the ban. Maybe I'm mis-understanding the timing of events. Given the current cancel culture climate, I'm a little scared that if we say something that others don't agree with (apparently even in private) it'll be a swift ban without any sort of recourse. P.S. I was not messaged by this guy and have no knowledge of his endeavor beyond what we're all reading. *EDIT* Full disclosure, I double checked and this guy DID message me in the past with a general question, which I replied to. Nothing related to his facebook plan though.

Sounds very sketchy

I can vouch for the location being clean and upscale. Glad Tina was a hit.

Just to make sure I don't throw Tina under the bus. It was Jasmine I seen and posted the warning about. I did not visit Tina, I did "see her" for like a split second that's it.

There were posts/ads on Leolist itself warning about him. No idea myself I just saw the warning ad. I forget what the warning even was.

I've had people PM me and ask questions about providers. I'll usually answer any questions but the 3 questions I don't answer are: 1) How much does she charge. (Just ask her) 2) Does she do XXX. (Again, just ask her yourself) 3) Where does she work from. For #3, when asked I'll give a general area (IE Clayton Park) but I am unsure why people want to know exact addresses. All three of those questions are asked fairly often.

You literally just need to put "ashley thick goddess" in the search bar on lyla.

I've had the good fortune to meet Danielle and I agree she's worth a vote! Also that link from Lydia doesn't work for me at all, permission error. My vote for a lady who supports the site and is genuinely a nice, nice person who's thoughtful, educated, kind and not hard on the eyes either is Katherine from Halifax.

Thanks for sharing your experience. It is a common scam but so easy to fall for it especially if you happen to be new. My own rules are: - Certain areas are no-go. Shouldn't be that way but too many issues in specific areas so.... - Never ever pre-pay for new ladies. No exceptions, no gift cards, no EMTS - Like pre-pay, no partial deposits for new ladies. No exceptions. - Never take your wallet or phone in with new ladies (in case the "boyfriend" appears to rob you) - If they don't have a phone number, no deal - I will see new ladies with out of province numbers but 902 numbers are my preference I know pre-pay and phone #'s are an issue as some providers require pre-pay or a deposit or don't use a phone. Unfortunately I'll never see those providers but there's always others who do use a phone and do accept cash. Finally be polite, friendly but firm about any self-protection measures you decide to take. Don't let a pretty picture and some sexy messages cause you to lower your guard. There's plenty of time for EMT's and emails once you've got some trust built up.

I haven't seen her in a while but Dirty Blonde Maria is legit and worth seeing for sure. Really nice person.

Wait a minute? I posted a warning and you still went, lol? 😛 You say "last time I believe your posts"; was the only thing you took from my post was that I thought she was attractive and matched her picture? The important part was where I said what she offers vs what you get are out of sync.

Jasmine is an asian provider advertising with Tina. I think they are just in town for a while. I have been living in a Covid-19 bubble and with the easing of restrictions I decided to ease my own restrictions and see a provider. First off let me say Jasmine (and Tina) are real, the pictures are even real in their ad and you won't get robbed. BUT.... Here's what I felt was the scam part. I realize texting an asian provider often means you are often texting someone else who talks to her. I asked about specific services (nothing kinky/unsafe, just standard stuff) and the person responded that was I was looking for was included in the price quoted. I stressed that these services were what I was looking for more so than sex and asked specifically several times that she would be ok with what I requested and was assured she was cool with it. On arrival you can guess, I mentioned what I wanted and got a non-english answer and once the money was handed over the services I requested were not on offer anymore. Further she rush, rush, rushed me out of there like 15min tops and trying to get her to go slow was not possible. She also went straight for intercourse with me even though I really didn't want it, I told her several times I didn't want sex but she wanted me to bust as fast as possible. I felt cheated for sure but wasn't up for arguing and fighting to get any money back, definitely not what I paid for. I am SOOOO glad I didn't book an hour. Sometimes services are YMMV but I want to stress I was on-time, freshly showered, shaved, clean, sober, well dressed and well spoken. I am a decent guy, not pushy, friendly and have never had these services declined on arrival before. With Covid-19 I have ZERO issues with any provider declining services but when they've agreed to services I expect them to follow through or offer a reason or a refund or something. So on the plus side: - She looks great - You won't get robbed On the scam side: - Services changed once the money was paid - Rush rush rush - Terrible communication P.S. Don't PM me just to ask what the services were please. Nothing kinky, nothing very strange.

That blows! You tried to hire an escort yourself and got scammed?! I guess it can happen to the best of us but that really sucks.

Ok so what motivated this original policy change in the first place?

In what way is she a scam? EMT scam? Did she grab money and run? What was the scam.

Not true but believe what you will. No where near 100% infected and no where near 3-4% global deaths. In the 1918 Spanish Flu 25-33% of the world population was infected. Some recent sources (worldwide vs "civilized" countries vs death rate) March 19th Harvard researchers predict a 25% worldwide infection rate in the journal of Nature and Medicine March 16th Imperial College of London predicts a worst case US&UK combined infection rate of 80% if the pandemic is unchecked March 13th Dr. Anthony Fauci says CDC believes actual death rate closer to 1% This still puts worldwide deaths at like Spanish Flu levels of 50 million which is staggering. I don't see the point in arguing it further, neither of us can predict the future, only time will tell.

I said "sooner", you are right that was incorrect. I should have said safer (due to reduced deaths and herd immunity building). Your estimate of 100% infection and 3-4% of the population dying is WAY higher than any estimate I've seen. There is nobody predicting a worldwide 3-4% death rate. You can get 3.5% if you divide deaths by confirmed cases but those counts are way off for a variety of reasons. Plus the infection rate is predicted to be in the 60-80% of the population by the end of this, not 100%.

I think emergency morgues are in our future too. Flattening the curve is about reducing the pressure on the healthcare system but it also is key to full on stopping the virus sooner. In worst case conditions the virus infects 2.5 people for every person who contracts it, but with all our efforts we can reduce it and each person who stays inside or who gets the virus and recovers (becomes immune) it creates more and more distance between vulnerable people and makes it harder to spread. Once we "turn the corner" and the infection rate is not 2.5 people but less than 1 the virus will all but disappear from our population (over time). Using some desease spread calculators even if we turned the corner tomorrow we will still be well past 100 days before we are back down to the 3000 covid cases we have right now. That's 3+ months (at least) before we return to the levels we are at today. Doesn't mean 3 months of total lockdown but through isolation, immunity or vaccinations that transmission rate must get below 1 and stay below 1 or else the virus is growing and spreading. Due to the added time Canada's had to get ready and benefiting from others experiences I do feel we are better off than other countries but don't think this isn't going to hit us hard. We should expect to struggle through isolation longer than other countries due to our advanced warnings (not a bad thing, just ugh).

Ha. You've left me confused but intrigued about your complicated problem. 🙂

If you've got bills to pay, mouths to feed and the only source of income is working then you do what you must. We aren't "liking" the fact that she is risking getting/spreading the virus we are showing respect that she's doing what she needs to despite the dangers; that's a hard choice she's making.

Check on JJ on leolist? I think she's in that area. For me I think I'm done seeing providers until the storm has passed. There's just no effective way to stay protected from the virus during intimacy, I just don't want to take the chance. I wish all the best to the providers out there, if there was a way to make interactions safe I'd continue to visit during the outbreak but I need to put safety first, last thing I want to do is bring the virus home to my household. I can fully understand any provider who doesn't have the luxury of not seeing clients during this. I wish you all the best. If some of our locals start offering web shows maybe that's a route I'll have to try.

Wow, I used to be that out of touch with the reality of being poor. I do well and yes if needed I could go 6 months without an income, but I am one of the VERY VERY fortunate few with that level of savings and retirement investments. I can assure you that the vast majority of service providers are working to pay their immediate bills and are not able to go a month without an income. That is not their fault, sure I bet you could nitpick their life choices and say if you'd done this or that you'd be better off. The reality is most poor people (and I know many these days) aren't making terrible choices, they aren't lazy, they aren't looking for handouts, they are a victim of the economic conditions they were raised, victims of troubled childhoods, victims of misfortune, victims of whatever. Some are lazy pieces of shit, but that is NOT the norm, that's just the stereotype, plus after years of living poor it's hard for people to live other ways, you become conditioned to it. You can say to someone, you're poor so why do you smoke? Why do you drink? Why do weed? but those small vices are easy ways to spend an extra $20 and when $20 won't solve any of your real problems but will help you forget them for a few hours....well I won't blame anyone wanting to forget their issues for a little while. Here's my idea for our lovely service providers. We have a few more days where seeing a provider is still going to be socially tolerated, but in about 5-6 days even most of the providers are going to stop seeing customers, the threat of the virus, the financial relief the government is putting together, the lack of customers, etc are going to heavily curtail business. While we are still able to see service providers, give them an extra $20, take them some smokes, take them a bag of groceries, show a little humanity to the people we depend on and who don't have the resources we as clients have. And if during the worst of this you hear from your favorite providers and they need a little help can't we make an effort to share some groceries, share some TP with our friends? Just make arrangements and leave them some help at their door, no face-to-face contact needed. To all the providers out there, check on Lyla.ch for updates related to Covid-19 and business, share with others the protections you are taking, share tips. Ask clients in your ads to bring a few cans of food, we aren't individuals in this, we are facing it as a society. We need everyones help to get through this. If as a provider you are struggling due to reduced business, post on Lyla.ch that you are struggling, reach out for help.

I hope you don't make fun of her rapping, she's braver than me to rap publicly and post it. Hats off to her.