Rounding Third

Hate to be picky Amelia but New Brunswick is not a city as you know. There are Saint Johners, Frederictonians and, and as Scott points out, Monctonians. Scott has a point, although General "Monckton" had an interesting history. Beaujesure would be a more apt name. Hope that idea has legs.

Good questions Amelia - I believe you can do any of the things you list... and in a way.. are you not often working with old people now (ha) To answer your question when I was a kid I wanted a career in the military, and that did not happen. so now I dream that when I grow up again, perhaps something in the way of landscaping or volunteering

Em would have the best B&B in the land, no question. BTW there are lots of B&B opportunities around here

To come up with limerick is so daunting. But to impress CERB ladies I am wanting. Cause you ladies should know that the most, You can always find here on the East Coast And we men all have something worth flaunting. Now This Labour Day weekend we are in a fuss, As ?Earl? the hurricane will be upon us. And an SP half-listening in Toronto, Decided to come here quite pronto, As she heard this Earl is "enormous"! So from Toronto she flew here in a jiffy, Seeking Earl, and a screwing so nifty! But alas, all she felt was shallow, On hearing Earl is not a real fellow, So she said, ?Ok, since I am here I?ll boink Lefty!?

Sorry Attila, my rambling led to some confusion. As Wrinkleton said, my comments were not negative to Emma?s motivation. (Indeed, I can?t imagine ever saying anything negative about Emma!). You are absolutely correct that the ladies put so much into the services they provide, and that is a big part of the point. The girls are business ladies and bad behaviour costs all of us because they somehow have to cover the costs of a no-show or a turn-away date. If they can?t, then there is no service, and we all lose. This is why, if I could dare to dream, it would be great to have a board that is exclusive to those hobbyist and providers who ?get-it?, who understand the potential of the community. In the entire subculture there will always be streetwalkers, fly by night agencies and guys who want to get off for $60. But we are not talking about that, we are talking about increasing service by minimizing the risks for quality, safe providers and those hobbyist who appreciate them. That is a clinical way of saying, if the ladies did not have to deal with the bullshit, then it is easier for them to provide the wonderful services they provide, and we all benefit. How do we get there? I have no idea. Carrie correctly points out that CERB is not an exclusive group and there is little screening. As I said before, perhaps it will evolve through threads like this. But what if it does not? I am particularly sensitive to this being in a small market. If the ladies visiting our cities cannot make a go of it, then they will stop coming. If the ladies living in our smaller communities can?t make a go of it they will move or stop providing. That is less or a concern if you are in Ottawa or Toronto, but for me, I am greatly concerned.

I do not often post to these threads, because frankly you guys are so perceptive and so witty it seems anything I may want to say is already said. However Emma?s thread and similar recent threads concern me, so I am motivated to give you some observations and thoughts this afternoon. Here goes: - This whole SP/Hobbyist community is a unique subculture. It is not mainstream. it is not conventional. Those who participate in it, freely choose to do so. In doing so they accept risk. In doing so they expect reward. I know this because I have had amazing experiences in this sub-culture. That is my reward for participating. It is not risk free because it has to be secretive. (Ha! Tiger?s Wood?s recent grief would pale as to what I would go through if my secret was out.) Fellow hobbyists may express their awards and risks different than I, but there would be similarities. The awards and risks of an SP would be described differently than a hobbyist. - - CERB in my view greatly enhances the sophistication of this sub-culture. I have been a hobbyist for a long time but discovered CERB only two years ago. With CERB you obtain insight in what SP?s and other hobbyist are thinking. It is valuable. My experienced (i.e. reward) has been enhanced many times over because of CERB. Through CERB I have met incredible ladies, along with gaining insight and understanding as to how to behave. These insights have helped me understand the type of client I want to be. As well my risk is greatly mitigated. The difference between meeting a lady through CERB versus CL or a local agency is huge. - Today, the CERB membership list has 18,186 entries. I do not think I have said anything so far that is surprising or controversial to most CERBIES. In fact it is rather obvious. Participating in this culture need not be complicated, and that is my concern. Given the sophistication of CERB, why has there been so much chatter lately about bad behaviour, like price negotiating, time wasting messages and so on? Why is a great lady like Emma compelled to post about a no-show? This raises a fundamental question in my mind; do these discussions indicate the overall behaviour level of participants in our SP/hobbyist community is deteriorating when logic tells us that it should be improving because of CERB and similar forums? Or, on the other hand, are these discussions an indication that our community is sophisticated enough to criticise itself and that is the precise way we move our community forward? I do not know the answer but offer the following additional comments (these comments may not relate to one another): - 18,186 is a big number. Many of our members are obviously not serious about participating in our community in a reasonable way. Many will simply not get it, so there will always be bad behaviour. Others have expressed this, but to move our CERB community along, can there be a weeding out process? Can Emma?s no show for example be banned from CERB? - Can the Newbie?s section be more to the point as to how to interact with SP?s both on line and in an encounter? - I am in a small market and we are fortunate to have some CERB ladies visiting. It surprises me to see that some often advertise on CL as well as CERB. It seems to me that increases their risk of a bad client. - Price negotiating boggles my mind. In my conventional world I am always negotiating, being analytical, logical and so on. I seek out SP?s for the pure pleasure of an uninhabited fun filled encounter. Duh!! To start that encounter by talking money seems totally counterproductive to the experience. Why would anyone do that? I do not get it? - I am fortunate in that I have never have to cancel, but if I did, it just seems so obvious that I would make every effort to advise and apologize. (Yeah, grovel if I have to!). Those are some thoughts from a normally quiet CERBIE. Overall, my point is that CERB is a great forum but there is always ways to improve on great things that is what keeps them great. The way we behave with one another is integral to maintain the value of our community, so lets always be sure we are looking for ways to improve and keep the standards high. Many of you frequent posters already do such a great job at that and full credit to you.

Welcome LSL... My fellow CERBIES have given you great advice. We have some amazing ladies visiting our area along with amazing ladies that are in our area...Treat them respectfully and you will have an amazing time

I think Renegade is very smart. Not only did he give a good answer to Em's question by saying its a natrual passage of life... he also got a "Aww..that is so sweet" out of her. I am very impressed!

Sadly, it is my understanding that Catia is no longer in Saint John, as she has moved to another part of Canada

As stated before this is an interesting thread and there is no clear cut answer. Here is a slightly different slant on the issue. Generally, to introduce myself I communicate by email. As well, I usually send a thank-you email after the encounter. Even thought I am naturally shy like MH, I can easily find myself getting very wordy in my emails to providers. That is ironic because I am not normally wordy, but remember all of this hobbying is pretty emotional stuff. So I can understand why providers, on receiving a wordy email, may feel I am trying to cheat by coxing them into conversation outside of our encounters. it is not really my intention, Usually I can tell from the providers response if I have gone too far. But it is an interesting question - are thank-you emails or any other messages outside of booking an engagement ok?

This has been an interesting thread and I am inspired to say three things: - First, as already been expressed by other guys, it never occurred to me that recos are all that important. So I learned something. - Second, I have written two recommendations. Each was for ladies who I had seen on a number of occasions. I therefore felt I had something to say and put a lot of thought into it. Not sure I understand the benefit of a one liner saying yeah I saw her and things are good. - Third. I very, very seldom read recos, as I am not really interested in other guys experience. I am more interested on how the lady presents herself on CERB, her website, and if I am inspired to contact her, it is those first email exchanges that seals the deal as to if I see her.

I understand the game sold out almost immediately. Do you suppose it is because the Eskimos are playing, Em?

Emily and I met last December on her first trip to Saint John and I am delighted that we have been together a number of times since. Emily, of course, is very prominent on CERB and we are fortunate that she visits Atlantic Canada regularly. Indeed, other hobbyists have sung Emily?s praises describing her as ?a perfect 10?, a real ?gem? and always ?exceeding expectations?. So you may wonder what I may possibly add to all these praises. Well first, I say to my fellow hobbyists that have already written recommendations on Emily ?well said guys?. Based on my experience I second the motion that she is a gem and join you in recommending her to any hobbyist that will treat her with respect. Allow me, though, to extend the discussion. On her website Emily describes herself as a ?Companion?. Let me say what that means to me and in doing so, I will speak from my heart. I am shy and usually a little nervous on a first visit with a lady. On our first visit, Emily greeted me dressed casually and comfortably with a nice warm hug. However, it was late in a day when things just did not go right and I was way more than a little nervous, I was outwardly flustered. Emily and I laugh about it now, but I was pretty uptight. We sat on the sofa and I instantly sensed kindness in her voice. She took my clammy hand in her warm soft hands and I marvelled at her exquisitely manicured nails. Emily did most of the talking but I have to confess I may not have been absorbing everything she was saying as I became too enthralled by her beautiful face. She was showing such an array of emotions, smiling, laughing, being pensive, interested, kind, thoughtful, each expression so different from the others, each so beautiful in its own way. It was like looking through a kaleidoscope. In a matter of 10 minutes or so, my anxieties had completely disappeared and I became very relaxed and happy! Ever since that moment I am completely comfortable with Emily. I love our talks as she is interesting and genuinely interested in the real me. I love that she has become fond of our city and shows interest in it. That is Emily, the companion, an amazing woman, compassionate, beautiful and so much fun. I appreciate her thoughtfulness, putting so much into our encounters. Her standards are high and the detail is incredible. For example, it is always a nice room in one of our nicer hotels, usually candlelit with carefully selected background music. In all of our encounters I am delighted with some very elegant lingerie, just as we see in her albums. (By the way Em, we have not seen a new album for a while ? Hint! Hint!) So, my fellow hobbyist, if you, on hearing what I just described, recognize the depth of compassion displayed by Emily in calming me during those first few minutes, and can appreciate her thoughtfulness in ensuring your encounter will be a wonderful experience, then my message to you goes far beyond a recommendation. Rather, my message is that Emily is a must see for you. I know I will always see Emily every chance I get and I hope she knows that too. Thanks Em, you are a sweetheart!

Thanks to starting this thread Cato, and thanks to all the ladies who post albums. The are enjoyable..

dcrv - She is on CERB as Celina25. There is a pic there. You can PM her. Sometimes posts on CL. Ditto the comments above. Nice lady, lots of fun.

Thanks for the info Loki. Too bad it did not work out but appreciate the offer to TOFTT. (Am i the only one wondering what SKYNS means?)

I have been enjoying this thread. Great line Amelia! My fantasy is for a simpler time. Ten years ago I would be overnight in Halifax, Montreal Toronto, Ottawa etc a couple of times a year. GREAT for HOBBYING! Now with web-meetings, emails etc - NOT SO MUCH!! So my more recent fantasies involve every CERB SP from the HRM area. Thanks ladies!

Thanks for the report Loki! Britney sounds like a real sweetheart!!. I would certainly want to be on time should I ever be fortunate enounght to have an appoiintment with Britney (lol)!!

Britney ... I am in as well. Love to see you in SJ

I started way back in 1982, but it wasn't fun until I discovered CERB last year. Before I thought I was unusual and felt guilty. Now, I am a hobbiest and know there are all kinds of interesting SP's and hobbiests out there!

You say you are looking for a website for "Cat". I am wondering if we are talking about two different ladies. I am familiar with Catia in Saint John, but I often see hobbyest on CERB refer to Cat. To my knowledge, "Catia" never refers to herself as "Cat". Are we talking two different ladies? I can tell you that as of a month or so ago Catia did not have a website, but she did tell me she was planning one at some point. Also, Catia is away for the summer.