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When they clearly offer adult services, yes. But when they try to maintain a reputation as serious health professionals, it gets old very quickly. A few years ago I met a Chinese woman giving Thai massages. The real thing and not the body slide. Before the session she vented a little on how many calls she was getting from men who wanted sex and were clueless on what a real Thai massage was. I could definitely understand her point of view.

Hopefully for you she's not lactose intolerant as she would certainly get sick from all the cheese in that pick up line. I'm not gonna be your Cyrano and dictate how to ask certain things to a woman. Just have a normal conversation and ask questions about her work and slowly bring the topic in. Or just go for broke and ask her directly. The worst she can say is "NO".

Recently, the subject was addressed in two threads: http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=257464 http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=256012 The consensus is pretty much that what an RMT and a client/friend do off the clock is there own business. But if you ask during a session, you'll very likely be shown the door. Even with MA's, they don't all do extras. If that's very important for you, ask from the start. As for your main question, I find it very disrespectful. It's pretty much the equivalent of asking if a nurse, secretary or waitress will offer sexual favors if you tip them. As I mentioned in another thread, think of her as a woman and not as an escort. And the same should be said about all women offering adult services. Respect goes a long way.

As a disclosure, I'm not a lawyer. Laws change all the time and are different in every countries, provinces and municipalities. Also, what you know about her, what was said in emails/txt/phone and her age group changes a lot of things(mostly if under 16). The best options remain to do your homework and walk out when in doubt. Have a nice day.

If it's part of a conversation it's an easier sell than randomly asking. For me, I prefer getting out on the phone or email before the first contact or by email before a second session if I feel I got nothing to lose.

There are ways to ask without looking like a perv. Like asking if she sometimes receives weird requests, see what she replies and start a conversation about it. If she shuts the door from the start, just change subject and no harm done.

Yes it's solicitation and a good reason to clear the air from the start if that's what you want. It's unlikely to get you in trouble with the law but will put you on her black list if she feels insulted by it. Not sure I get the "regret more is not seizing the moment" when nothing prevent you from seeing her again and ask her if options are on the table or not. For me when a massage is very good, extras are not necessary. So, not sure why anyone would feel as they missed out on something when the primary goal was accomplished. If you need "release", just ask from the start. If it's a hard NO, you'll get your answer.

I don't agree with that. RMT's received a two year minimum massage education to be taken seriously as health professionals and allow them to write insurance receipts. If some ladies take a shorter formation to specialize in relaxation massages or other and are not recognized as RMT's, it doesn't automatically make them sex workers! If you're looking for an MA that provides extras, politely ask before. But don't disrespectfully assume she'll do it because she doesn't have a diploma on the wall.

To elaborate, it's the kind of thing you either ask from the first call/txt/email or not at all. If someone doesn't want to ask in the beginning because they're afraid of a negative answer or be blocked, they're better off not asking and simply assume it's not on the table. If she feels comfortable with it and reads from a mans body behaviour that it's welcomes, she will certainly take the lead and offer it. I only ask is when I got nothing to lose because the massage is not great and a repeat is very unlikely. If the massage is very good and want to keep it that way, don't ask if she doesn't offer. It will likely ruin a good thing.

Sure ;-) A turn off for me is when a lady vents off her frustration and starts sharing her dirty laundry. I like getting to know a lady and learn about some of the inner workings of the adult industry. But when I only hear about her personal problems and conflicts with everyone and everything, I'm not so keen to see her again. I know this goes both ways as some men like to meet SP's just to talk to someone, but it's their time. When I see and pay a lady, I don't want her to use me as a "good listener" unless I give her permission. I see SP's to escape my reality and not to fall into hers. Thank you. We're back on track now.

Was simply enjoying your ""smelly banana" comment. LOL

I never ask and just enjoy the surprise when she offers it or simply does it out of the blue.

Same to you.:-) Ladies, here a song by Conway Twitty:

I was in Québec City in 2002 when there was a major bust of underage SP's. I wasn't seeing any in that period, but it certainly made me do some searches to be sure to know what was legal and not.

You're complaining about a list that was made in JUNE! A full TWO MONTHS before you decided to join this board. You're NOT identified as "fake", but simply as "Unknown". If your potential clients can somehow find this list and your contact information but not a single post and clear indications of your authenticity, this either means they're dumb as rocks or not really into you. The claim that only "old SP's" were updated is ludicrous since that list was never updated since June 19 2017(less than 24hrs after being created). limestone4612 is not the most active member of this board, but took a lot of time to build that list. Again, he doesn't owe you or anyone anything and will update the list once he can. You said you were real and many confirmed it, end of story!

You'll very rarely see signs of it in ads and pictures. In person is where you'll get suspicious. You can ask for an ID, but she'll likely say not having any or show you a fake student card. The best way is a short conversation to see her level of maturity. And if you got any doubts, just walk out.

You're likely right, but I seen through "resets" of many SP's just in the way they wrote their ads. And that, way before I discovered this board. Again, even if she's in the right it gives a bad first impression. Let's just agree to disagree :-) Have a nice week-end.

Are you that full of yourself? He has no obligations and owes you nothing! You want to meet Kylie, just meet her! Not sure why you're waiting for a mythical seal of approval from members of this board. Many said she was real, that should be good enough. Have a nice week-end.

What's your goal exactly?? If you want to find a young SP, do your own freakin research and stop the whining! Sounds like you're looking for someone to blame if you meet one and things go bad. Do like everyone else and use google and your phone and do your own homework! People here put a lot of their personal time and money to write suggestions and reviews. If you think they're all full of sh!t, JUST GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!

Not sure I get your rant. As you already mentioned in your opening comment, the "Real / Fake" thread already answered your question. And if you think this forum is "bias", not sure why you need a confirmation from LYLA in order to see a young SP. Stop complaining and just meet her!

It's an adult website and people will use colorful expressions to make a point. I didn't invent it and put it between quotation marks because it's funny and direct enough to be relevant. I again apologize for anyone who finds it offensive. Without throwing Exotic Touch Danielle under the bus, if "smelly banana" is not insensitive for men with body odor problems, I don't see a point to make a big deal about this. LOL

I apologize if you don't like my choice of words and expressions, but I think it's the best way to illustrate a turn-off. I and many can tolerate one or a few piercings, but when the quantity is a bit excessive and intrusive, it becomes a bit harder to sell. As for tattoos, large ones sometimes exist to conceal past mistakes. I never said it was always the case, but it often prompts me to ask about the story behind the ink.

I agree we don't know the full story and last minutes cancellation can be frustrating, but I fail to see how an SP can gain from this. Even if he deserved what was done to him , she's the one looking bad. Yes she can hit the "reset button" with a new look, name, phone number, new location and new clientele. But IMHO, this should be an extreme measure and not just because of a questionable tantrum.

Considering everything that can possibly go wrong between a lobbyist and an SP, a cancellation is not on the list of the worst things that can happen. To name a few: A no-show, attempt to fraud/shortchange, violent behavior, police bust and blackmail, are definitely better reasons to be mad and frustrated at someone. That SP is either very young and inexperienced or pretty full of herself. She choose to work in a domain where discretion and trust is key and she went public for such a trivial reason. Not sure anyone looking for a private experience will want to deal with her if she's quick to publicly shame clients. In a line of work where good word to mouth is vital, she likely seriously damaged her reputation with this.

I don't find it confusing and boring quite the opposite. About a month ago, I started a thread about the subject( http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=256095 ) and few showed interest. The topic of underage SP's is a bit taboo and few men seem to care. As for the Conway Twitty song, it's a running gag in the "Family Guy" show. They play a clip from him each time there's an awkward situation and want to change subject. Thanks for the info.