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When you rely on pictures to meet a SP or MA and the person you meet is very different, you got the right to be critical. No pictures is better than fake pictures. If she needs deception to meet men, you don't need to worry about "hurt feelings". When someone lies about something as obvious, this normally indicate that she may lie about other aspects of her services, hygiene and safety. If you're victim of a "bait and switch", you can respectfully say "NO", walk away and report it in the "Ottawa Warnings" sub-forum. It's the reason why this type of message board exist. The fact you lost time meeting her is bad enough, paying her anyway to be polite will only enable this type of fraudulent behavior. Don't feel bad, there's nothing wrong in walking away.

Welcome to Lyla. It's not strange, but more something that should be discussed with her. There still plenty of SP's who smoke. And ultimately, what two adults do in private is their own business. I personally hate the smell of cigarette, but if you're home or in an hotel/motel that still allows smoking and want to allow an SP to light up with you, nothing stops you and her from doing it. I grew up in the 70's/80's and coped with it for too long and will never tolerate it again. But if that makes your boat float, enjoy.

Again, there plenty of good reasons for refusing service to someone. The top are: Safety, hygiene, incompatibility and plain conflict of interest. I read plenty of stories of student SP's who awkwardly ended up with a teacher or other uncomfortable situations. But there a large difference between refusing someone in a case by case situation and to plainly ban an entire ethnic group. Sometimes it's justified, but in others it's hard to not call it straight racism.

He's a man. This Kijiji ad pic makes it a bit clearer: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-health-beauty/gatineau/benifits-of-massage/1296095021?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true I never met him but received a few Thai massages from a mature Asian MA. I was in my underwear and she would partially cover me with a blanket during the massage. A real "Thai" massage is not sexual and massages and stretches every muscles of your body. I remember being sore for a few days after the first session. For a straight massage, I don't think male or female therapist really matters.

She's a webcam entertainer from the U.S. https://www.manyvids.com/Profile/60928/Miss-Paige/

As mentioned in another thread, she's a webcam entertainer in the U.S. https://www.manyvids.com/Profile/60928/Miss-Paige/

I agree this is a legit reason for the same reason some Asian SP's prefer not to cater to Asian men.

Could be a cultural thing or maybe they simply don't want to be recognized and identified in their community. Some of them even clearly indicate they don't want to cater to Asian men. Hopefully someone got a better explanation. I myself prefer no pictures than fake pictures. Each time I see stock Asian pics, my first thought is "human trafficking" and I stay away. Not an industry I want to directly or indirectly support.

Thanks for the info. Nice to know I'm not going crazy. LOL

Just this morning between 7:00 and 10:00 it was as if the website didn't exist at all. And this happened several times in the past week.

Not sure if I'm alone but in the past week I had problems accessing this website. Not sure if it's a regional server problem or the website was simply down for maintenance. Am I the only one having this problem?

Lived this twice but was a while ago. The first time was with a SP I met once before. She would post ads on occasions and it been a few months since I seen her. She's mid 20's with an athletic body and the service was "ok". Her 30 min rate was very affordable and it prompted me to see her again. But this time when she opened the door she literally pulled me in saying "I really need this", and after a DFK she dragged me in her room for an unexpected GFE. After a while I noticed the clock(an hour had passed) and she told me not to worry about it. She kept me an extra hour and I paid with what I had on me that covered the 30 min(more like 120 min) session and tip. Without going in details , she told me she had relationship problems and needed to unwind. I was at the right place at the right time. The second was with one I seen a dozen times but hadn't seen in years. Early 30's, great fit and curvy body and loves to talk. She normally does outcalls, so when the ad said she did incalls I wasn't sure if it was her. Went to her location and immediately she recognize me and asked if I had plans for the afternoon. It was about 1:30pm on a week-end and a bit puzzled, I said "no". She explained being stuck alone in that apartment for the rest of the afternoon and asked me if I wanted to keep her company until she's done there or get a call. She didn't had any and ended up staying a bit over 3 hours. Sadly she retired from the business months later. You got to enjoy those moments.

I've been also curious about her and this other one from Orleans: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-health-beauty/ottawa/just-relaxation/1296928163?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true I don't think they work together as they say working in different locations, but would be curious on infos on both.

Her website is down and according to her profile here: https://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=32630 She hasn't been active(on Lyla) since 11-19-2016. If she's not retired, she's remaining very low key.

It's not that I disagree with you, but like Nicolette just posted "This isn't exactly an ideal business". Some SP's can afford to do this, but many of them do it to pay the rent and put food on the table. Not every lobbyist can be the generous prince charming. Compromises need to be made if one intend to make a living on it. Nobody will argue about safety and health reasons, but excuses like "not my type" don't fly for long in this line of work.

The big difference is while hobbyists can choose where to spend their disposable income, not that many SP's and MA's can afford to be picky on who they accept "gifts" from. Especially those who live on it or got expensive lifestyles. If their pickiness has to do with their safety and health, it's clearly justified. But if it's only due to prejudices or other questionnable reasons, they will suffer once their ideal donors pool dries up.

Quick update, she now has a profile here: http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=124455

Thanks for the links. For some reasons when I made the search , I found no results. I agree everyone got their preferences. If we could have a long discussion with those ladies, I'm pretty sure they would open up about past experiences justifying their request. And like I just read in some other threads, some reasons are genuine and not worth the embarrassment of a human right complaint. At the end of the day it's about two people agreeing on sharing intimacy under some conditions. If there no attraction, it simply end up as an awkward and expensive experience. Additional Comments: That's a weak explanation as there are "pimps"/procurers of different ethnicities and genders. So, not a great excuse. Also, being selective is not unique to Indy SP's.

Not sure if this was discussed before, but I'm a bit curious. Many SP's and some MA's are selective on who they meet with their own criteria's and restrictions. Often "No black gent" is one of those and when I ask why, the politically correct answer has to do with their "appendages" to be too large for her comfort. Considering this argument is based on a debunked myth and uses vanity to hide racism, I wonder what's the true reason behind it. I'm Caucasian and not affected by this criteria, but a little curious on where the discrimination/preference comes from. Thank you.

I'm always concerned when on one hand the written part of the ad make it looks as a straight massage service, but on the other they use sexy stock pictures insinuating something different. At the end both type of clientele will likely end up unsatisfied with the service offered. I could be wrong, but the mixed messages are more than often bad signs. And just to be clear, my criticism has nothing to do with the MA's. They need a job and likely lacked the skills and experience for a licensed establishment or didn't had the physical attributes to work in other type of places. So, they end up in between working for someone who'll use the dirty tricks of the trade to bring men through the door. Far from ideal work conditions.

I'm more concerned by the fact a Google search can't even confirm the existence of the place. Unless it's operated by Amish people , it's hard to justify in this day and age.

Another weekday, new fake pictures. This time, "Jenna" is using pictures from Chloe a Toronto SP in a new ad: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-health-beauty/ottawa/massotherapy-paradise-come-get-away-to-paradise/1294935794?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true This is getting ridiculous. In the past 9 days, the people behind those ads have used pictures of four different women! Two Canadian SP's and two models from the U.S. There no way to sugar coat this. Stay away!

Or got a few 50 or 100 dollar bills visibly sticking out of your pockets.

After deleting all Kijiji ads using the title "Paradise Massotherapy", they now simply use "Massotherapy". But still post fake pictures. In this latest ad , they use a picture of the Californian model Mercedes Morr. We can call it a third strike on the matter of credibility. Who ever is behind those ads is not helping their business by using those fake pictures. Better having none than continually do this. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-health-beauty/ottawa/massotherapy/1294037315?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true On a side note for the Mod: I won't mind and will completely understand if you move this thread in the "Ottawa Warnings" sub-forum. The more I dig, the more questionable behavior I find. My goal is not to hijack this thread. And as nobody seem willing to take one for the team(for good reasons), I just want to provide up to date info on this MA/questionnable business.

They posted another ad with a picture of Lacy Lovelle, an high class indy Toronto SP. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-health-beauty/ottawa/massotherapy-paradise/1293568263?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true While this is a little more plausible as she regularly travel through Canada and the U.S., her calendar indicates she's currently in the U.S. for another week and no hints she will be in Ottawa in the near future. Also, from the rates she post on her official website, hi highly doubt many would pay that much for a massage. I think we can start to rule out the honest mistake argument.