Cleo Catra
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I know sometimes it's hard to read tone in a post, so my post below is being written as an attempt to explain one point-of-view for not answering blocked numbers, it's not written in any confrontational way, and definitely not an 'I'm right, you're wrong' or anything like that. A few months back I posted a thread about one-word texts saying 'Hi'. I thought they were rude - and from the responses I received, I realized I was wrong. Things aren't always the way you think they are. I am truly sorry if some people think we're being rude by not answering blocked numbers - for me, it's part of keeping myself sane in this business, and it's not rude at all. Before I briefly retired from SP-ing and became and MA for a while, I used to answer blocked numbers. Because, as has been pointed out, sometimes men block their number because they are calling for some more info and don't yet want to give our their number. But I'll tell you what my experience was by answering those calls. For the info calls, after I answered the questions, the call would go one of three ways: the gent would accept the info, and decide to call back to book with an unblocked number. This was the least common result. The more common was to either try and convince me to give him my location info on the blocked number, and the second most common was for me to realize the man was jerking off on the other end of the line, no intention to actually book. Websites like cerb show us the wonderful side of this business; it helps you gentlemen to see how many other gentlemen there are that take part in this hobby. So it's easy to think it's simply gentlemen calling for info and hiding their privacy - but sadly, in reality, most of the time the people hiding behind those blocked numbers are not gentlemen: they are creeps. So, about half the time when I answered a blocked number, it went one of the three ways I mentioned above. The other half of the time... well honestly, the other half of the time I would receive demoralizing, and utterly deflating cruelty. I'd answer blocked numbers and have teenagers making prank phone calls. I'd have men breathing in my ears. I'd have people scream "WHORE!" when I answered. I'd have the sound of men jerking off. I'd have people calling with disgusting - and I mean DISGUSTING - requests. These calls would sometimes reduce me to tears. It was very hard to pick back up and put a smile on my face. The cruelty that can exist out there is staggering, and in my experience, these cruel assholes hide behind a blocked number. They're not going to expose themselves when they make these kind of calls. I've posted in the past about the main reason I left being an SP for a while, and went to an MA, but the phone calls are a big part of it as well. WHen I was an MA, there was someone else taking the calls. I didn't have to expose myself to those creeps. Yes, that also meant I didn't get to communicate with the true gentlemen out there. But my brain needed that break for a while. When I was able to come back, I set myself some limits in order to keep myself safe, and sane, in the business. And one of those things was to never, ever, answer a blocked number. And by doing that, I've almost eliminated those cruel, prank phone calls. So I do hope you can understand that it's not at all being rude by not answering those calls. But in this business, we need to set up barriers in order to stay safe, and for me at least, this is one of the things I do.
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Lyla users and their pets
Cleo Catra replied to someguy's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
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Favorite Canadian cities
Cleo Catra replied to CristyCurves's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I've always thought Montreal was the best city in Canada. Last year I had a chance to show an American friend around there, it was great to see it more as a tourist again. Love love love it. I'm also a fan of every place I've seen on the east coast. Want to see everything! -
Ott. Christmas Social
Cleo Catra replied to Mister T's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
Ohhhh! Well I think I will have to come too this time... hey Anna, think we could convince our friend Bella to come? Now that would be fun :D -
what are you doing at this very minute?
Cleo Catra replied to Exotic Touch Danielle's topic in Fun Threads
Trying to convince myself to clean my house, instead I keep refreshing cerb/facebook, and am dancing around to Rihanna -
Watched The Hangover 3 and LOVED it. The second one was forgettable if you ask me, but the first one was great and this was a purrfect end. I was dying with laughter through most of it. Really recommend it if you enjoyed the first one.
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The Provider vs. Client "Contract"
Cleo Catra replied to becker's topic in Ottawa Discussion - Escorts
There was no name calling, insulting, or demeaning. I stated how I would feel if someone refused to pay at the beginning. To me it would feel like a power-trip, so I would ask the man to leave; that does not mean I am calling you a power-tripper. You're not here in my bedroom. If you were, and were refusing to pay upfront, my previous statements would be personally directed at you. But rather, they are included in this thread, so any man reading the suggestion to refuse to pay up front, can read both that suggestion from a hobbiest, and also read how an SP would react if that suggestion was followed. -
The Provider vs. Client "Contract"
Cleo Catra replied to becker's topic in Ottawa Discussion - Escorts
If a client refused to put the envelope down at the beginning of an encounter, I would ask him to leave. Someone holding money over my head for me to perform for them is not a way to make an encounter enjoyable. It would make me feel like he is playing power games. I ask my clients to put the money down before we take our clothes off. You get that out of the way, because do you want your girl worrying the whole time that you aren't going to pay her? It's something I hated at the spas too. THere it was standard to pay after, and guess what, there were a few men who enjoyed my service only to tell me after, 'OOPS, forgot my wallet! Don't worry, I'll come back'. Who wants to guess if they did? Stop comparing us to mechanics. Yeesh. If you are paying a woman to get naked for you, for her to perform intimate sexual acts for you, you give her the respect to pay her first. Do not power-trip and refuse to pay until she performs. I can't even believe someone would think this is acceptable.- 142 replies
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You're within walking distance (about 10-15 minutes) to Barbarellas (Queen/Lyon) and Barefax (Byward Market, York St), for strip joints.
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I dont like turkey
Cleo Catra replied to Cute0aza0Button's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I LOVE PUMPKIN PIE! And pumpkin cheesecake (what I usually make). And stuffing (real stuffing, not stovetop). And turkey. And mashed potatoes. YUM! I don't like gravy (people think I'm weird), or cranberry sauce. Meh. -
How do you view discretion?
Cleo Catra replied to Eva Laperle's topic in Ottawa Discussion - Escorts
I only call back if I've missed the call by a few minutes - five or less. If they want a call back otherwise, I'm assuming they will leave me a message asking me to call back. I also have my phone number blocked when calling out, so if I call a gentleman and he doesn't answer, or someone else answers, they wouldn't know who it was that was calling. My most important discretion issues are upon arrival, and I know there have been threads on this. When you come to my building, please don't stand in front of people outside when calling me, and repeat HI CLEO? YES, RING ##, APT ###, because you have just told anyone around who I am and where I am. Please do not bang loudly on my door when you arrive, and don't say HI CLEO, NICE TO MEET YOU! When i open the door. My apartment does not have a soundproof barrier, and any neighbour home will have heard that. And they don't know me as Cleo. Please knock quietly (Or, I usually will be waiting and open the door as you walk up, please don't still insist on banging on the open door). Enter, and wait until I've shut the door before we start saying hello. Once we're in my bedroom we can be as loud as we want, but I'd rather not have my neighbours hear people arriving.- 11 replies
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Just took my pugs to the dog park, and when it was time to go, I started calling my new little lady from across the park. As soon as I said her name, she turned, and she ran to me from across the park. She came to her name, and to me with a smile on her face. I can't even describe how happy this made me, my heart almost exploded. When I adopted her two months ago, I gave her a name, because she was abandoned and I don't know anything about her, or the name she came with. But it doesn't matter anymore, because she has a name - and she KNOWS it!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
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A scroll down memory lane.
Cleo Catra replied to Moviefan's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
OMG I'd forgotten about Troop Beverly Hills, now I can remember it being one of my faves when I was a little girl! -
I'm on a horror movie kick for October, trying to watch as many movies from this list as I can - http://www.listchallenges.com/the-greatest-horror-films-of-the-past-5-years I watched 'Buried' with Ryan Reynolds recently. The movie was decent, but it was the last two minutes or so of the film that really got me. I shuddered for hours after thinking of it. So you know a horror movie is good when :D
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what are you doing at this very minute?
Cleo Catra replied to Exotic Touch Danielle's topic in Fun Threads
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I'm 100% open. My friends and family all know what I do, and are all completely supportive of me and my decisions.
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No one has said they're not important or needed. What most of us are saying is that not everyone wants to write them. And although you think it's 'legit' to disagree with my statement that not everyone is comfortable writing, I will flat out say this: YOU ARE WRONG. Not everyone is comfortable writing. In addition to my mother, two of my siblings have learning disabilities and do not like having to write things. Now that does NOT mean they should be pitied, or that it's 'no excuse' not to write things. You need to be more understanding. Not everyone is comfortable writing things. Why is that so hard to understand? Also: your statement "Their handicap or inability to write something is no excuse. As mentioned below, there's help in that area for whatever problem they have." is both insensitive, uneducated, and well, just plan mean. I'm glad you find it so easy to write things, but not everyone does. And I wouldnt' want them to have to find help somewhere just in order to write an escort recommendation. Rather than listen to anyone saying that not everyone wants to/not everyone CAN write a rec, you're instead saying 'sorry guys, wanted to help, but they're not listening to me!'. You don't seem to be listening to the responses. People have responded in many ways, explaining why they do or do not post, and girls have responded as well. Not everyone agrees that every client should write a rec: why is that so hard to accept?
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We do not have the ability to delete comments from our threads. Don't feel sorry for my mother. She is not to be pitied. I pointed her out as an example that not everyone finds it easy to write things. An inability to write IS an excuse. I think you need to accept that not everyone thinks it's so easy to write something. You don't know everything. Neither do I. So please, stop telling other people what to do. No one likes that - I think the comments in that thread are making that quite clear. You're not doing anything to help these girls right now. Some of my regulars have never written a review for me - and if I'd found out someone gave them shit for that, I would be mortified. Something your SP tells you in private should have been kept in private, not turned into a lecture to other members of this site.
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Another thing to keep in mind: some people aren't comfortable writing in any venue. It may be a language barrier, could be dyslexia, could be a fear of writing, could be many different things. My mother gets so nervous even typing a simple email it can take her hours to do so. Does that mean she shouldn't be a member of any online forums? Just because someone doesn't want to sit down and write about their encounter does not mean they didn't enjoy it, it does NOT mean they need a kick in the ass, and it definitely does not mean they don't belong on cerb.
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No one is saying the girls don't need recs. What we're saying is... not everyone wants to write them. And that's fine. A lot of men LOVE to write them, and I know I love receiving them. But I don't resent the clients who don't write them, and I would never want them to feel they HAD to write one. It wouldn't make me feel good about getting that rec, that's for sure. Cerb provides a lot of different things for a lot of different people... there's no right or wrong way (unless you're breaking the rules of course). Every client is different, and I for one like that :)
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I get no-shows... but I don't screen my appts the way some girls do. If you take the time to ask for references, and set up appointments with minimum 24-hour notice... I doubt you'll get no-shows. If you take last-minute calls with no references, you're opening yourself up to no-shows. I like being able to accept short-notice bookings, and I'm willing to accept that because of my lack of screening/references, no-shows are going to happen. I agree with Monique, it's completely avoidable, if the lady takes the time to screen.
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Honey, your heart is in the right place, but I disagree with you. Not everyone wants to post. CERB is the best place to find quality girls, and I don't think someone should feel that they can't come to this site unless they write reviews. I personally appreciate every review I've received - but I've also seen many gentleman, more than once, and they're never made one post on here. That's their perogative - and I don't think it's anyones place to give them a 'kick in the ass'. If someone is a big poster on here but just isn't posting reviews, then I'd be more inclined to agree with your postiion that they should review as well. But if someone is just using this resource to find the girls they want to spend time with... I have no problem with that. Additional Comments: I also think that if every client wrote a reco for every encounter... this site would be bogged down with them and then the recs wouldn't do much help... if every girl received a new reco every day, they'd stop losing their 'power' They wouldn't mean as much when selecting a girl if they popped up as often as the advertisements do.
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I like the points made by the other posters, that some men just don't like to post... but I disagree with this one. If you'd like to write a recommendation, by all means post it - whether it's repetitive or not. A good time is a good time, and we like to get those recos, whether you're writing something similar or not. I do understand the reasons why some men don't write them, but I do think repetition shouldn't be a factor. I don't think it's redundant, instead I think it shows that a provider has continuded to provide good service, so she has continued to receive good reviews :)
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Just curious ......
Cleo Catra replied to LeeRichards's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
None of the above! I think 'She's ADORABLE and looks like soooo much fun, I'd like to have a no-pants dance party with her!' -
Now THAT was a finale. One of the best I've ever seen. Great job.