ottman75

It's very much ymmv, depends on who's working at that time. I went 3 times back in 2018/20. The owner just hires various masseuses, some seem to be legit, some are not. First time I went, I saw Lorena (who's moved on to her own place in the Glebe). No extras from her at the time, I asked. Fully undraped massage (she said she prefers that) and there was a lot of brushing of my bits. So I was a bit confused at no extras, but whatever. Second time I don't even remember tbh, but extras were exhorbitant, so I declined. 3rd and last time was a hot curvy Latina who wasn't shy at all and offered FS (I declined). I got a hand release for $40, but it was hard to get through - lady got pretty sweaty, so touching her wasn't much fun. I believe the owner hires whomever, and whatever they do in the massage room is not her concern. She quotes whatever price for massage, the ma gets a small cut and they negotiate extras (if they even do them). It's a crapshoot. I think they've moved somewhere else, not sure.

Had a less than stellar experience there in early 2020 (I guess before they closed/moved). Booked via text, settled on a price, made it very clear what the price included. The owner (Hanniah?) booked me for 45 minutes with her, and 15 minutes (the "ending") with another lady. Not sure why, exactly. Scheduling availability? Owner didn't do endings? I don't know. Had a pleasant 45 minute massage, then the other lady came in. Massaged me for 15 minutes, then said time's up. No ending. So I politely asked if there was a miscommunication, and the lady got agitated, said I must have heard wrong. It's extra $ for a finish. I assured her I didn't, brought up my text messages to her and read the important ones to the lady. She stormed out, mad at me AND at the other lady, said something about her always doing this, blah blah blah. As I was getting dressed, I hear them talking (Spanish, I think) and it seemed a little heated. Awkward. I get dressed and go to the cash to pay, and I (again, politely) ask about what happened, was there a miscommunication, etc. Meanwhile, there's a middle-aged lady getting her nails done in the next room. Owner starts getting agitated at me, brings up her end of the text messages, and is adamant that I booked her for 45 minutes and the other lady for 15, with no ending. I asked her why on earth I would do that, and she shrugged. Told me the ending is an extra whatever. Was a weird experience, and I assume this was towards the end of them shutting down/moving, whatever, and they didn't care.

What is the price range, if I can ask? (as in, an hour, basic extras)

lol neither. random numbers. Wait, are you saying I sound like I'm 75? 😛

Yes, at least the one I was referring to. Without throwing her totally under the bus, she did offer extras but preferred to talk in person. Not all ma's will offer extras to anyone and everyone, and it likely depends on how you approach the subject. imo. I've been surprised a few times over the years with a few women who I would not have guessed offered anything other than a standard massage, without me ever asking. I've also been told no extras by a few women who almost certainly do, if you go by these boards. YMMV, business might be good enough to keep it standard at the time you ask, they may have stopped offering extras, they may just not be feeling it that day, or they didn't like how you asked. Who knows. All I can say is to respect the ladies who say no, and move on. Like I said, I've been given a "no" by a few women who I've read about on these forums, and I've NEVER questioned it with them. On the flip side, I've actually gone for a standard massage, and nothing else, and have been pleasantly surprised on more than one occasion with some ladies, once even with no upcharge at all. Off the top of my head, I can think of one who I NEVER would have thought would provide any extras, and the subject was never brought up by either of us, verbally, before. It just kind of happened. She was feeling it, I was *obviously* showing it, so it happened. Afterwards, she said she normally charges for that, but because it just kind of happened, it was no charge that time. I haven't actually been back, and I kind of feel bad, but she's just a little far for me, and the hours don't really line up. I stress - if someone says no, they don't offer extras, say thanks and move on. Never press the issue. And if you book with them anyway, do NOT expect or hope for anything more than you discussed. There are many ma's out there who do provide extras, but only when THEY decide to, and to whom. If you absolutely need extras in your massage, find someone who says yes.

Yeah, this. I saw her close to two years ago now, and she was 100% legit, for me, anyway. I honestly was a little disappointed, but she did give a great massage. I must not have been her type or something, because we did seem to hit it off, she's very nice, we chatted, I wasn't creepy, I'm clean, decent looking, all that. It was a pleasant "no", though, she didn't seem offended in any way. I remember at the time, that her Kijiji ad was a closer-up pic of her with her top few buttons undone. Not "sexy", but didn't seem like a picture a totally legit masseuse would use, either. I was a little confused in the end, but oh well.

Banner rd. Anybody been? Looking for more info. Was in touch with her a little while back, my appt got pushed back and it didn't work for me, and she wasn't happy (sorry?) I still have this urge to see her, but I'd like to know more before I make the plunge. Thanks! https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1474613290

Can one of you guys who have seen her PM me with some details? (options, etc.) I've been in contact and am very intrigued, but I'm not out that way. I guess I need a good push to make a drive that far!

Same for me, but haven't been due to two other people working there (one a guy). Sounds like the blonde is massage only, the brunette (Hannah) provides extras. I didn't get a menu, so I don't know exactly what is on offer, but it sounds like more than just a standard HJ

Not that it makes it much better, but it's possible it was an accident. I know it sounds far-fetched, but it's entirely possible. Just lean back the right way, and in it goes. That said, highly unlikely. My guess is it was either her hand reaching around, and because of the way she was sitting on you and the fact that you couldn't see anything, it 'felt' like something else. Most likely explanation is that she did, in fact, slide you into her. Either because she was getting a little carried away, or because you're a regular and she's comfortable with you, and thought "hey, what man wouldn't want this?" As Jessica said, some ladies may not see it as a violation. After all, you are there for a (primarily) sexual experience. The definitions of sexual assault are the same regardless of gender, it's just that many people don't see it as quite the same when it's a woman doing it to a man, or see it as lesser. However one views it, personally, is their prerogative. I was date raped when I was a teenager. I didn't want to have sex with this person, yet she made threats of telling people that I forced myself upon her if I didn't comply. It wasn't until many years later that I fully grasped the situation. I'm not traumatized by it or anything, but it's not exactly a happy memory either. It happens to men as well as women.

I had something similar happen a while back, but I was not blindfolded or restrained, so I was able to stop it. The short version is that an independent MA straddled me, and before I knew what was happening, was sliding her bare vagina across my uncovered penis. It took me about 3 seconds before I asked her to stop, and she said something like "yeah, this is dangerous". Uh, yeah, thanks. I have not been back since, obviously. Did I feel violated? No, not really, but perhaps I should have in retrospect. Was it unsafe? Hell yeah. I went and got tested very shortly after, and all good, but still. TBH, I would not be shocked if the OP is talking about the same person. He can PM me if he'd like and we can discuss, without naming names.

Judging from her website/blog, I wouldn't say her state of mind is all that great right now. I've never met her, and people who have seen her seem to like her, but something seems a little off.

Searched, can't find a thing anywhere. Was in touch with her a while back, but the distance/location is an issue for me, so I was looking for info before I book something. No luck with that, unfortunately. If you've seen her, please PM me and let me know. I'd rather not toftt with her location so far away from me, otherwise I would. Thanks all! Current ad

Curious - which one is she? There are two that operate out of Barrhaven, both VERY different experiences...

" Please note that these treatments are non-sexual massages " I would believe what they say and respect that. You may have had different experiences elsewhere, but I wouldn't use that going forward at other places, or with other people.

Oh, I know she's not the only one. Just seems like she keeps coming up though. I guess it's her look or something that intrigues people (which is unfair to her, of course). And that's exactly what I was saying - it's obviously not typical, if it happens at all. Everybody is entitled to do what they want with their own business, especially if they're not registered/certified etc. It's not a judgement, by me anyway, about what this particular person offers or doesn't offer. Personally, I enjoy a really good massage first and foremost. I tend not to see people who overtly advertise other things, believe it or not. If the massage isn't halfway decent, I don't care what they do or don't do apart from that. Obviously many people here do, and that's fine of course.

I actually went for a brazilian a few months ago, and I had a hard time finding someone who would do it at all, never mind make it fun (I wasn't trying for that, to be honest). I found only one person out of about 10 or so that I contacted that did it, and it was completely legit. The thing is, one has to be experienced in order to provide this. It's one thing to wax somebody's back, it's another to do this area. There's a lot of loose skin, and the hair is also different and more coarse. Personally, if someone provided this sort of manscaping, I'd much prefer a legitimate professional who knows what they're doing. FYI, if you've never had one done before, it isn't fun in the slightest, I promise! My threshold for pain is pretty high, and it sucked. I think if you have it done regularly, it gets better, but still, I can't see how it's exciting for someone.

Fair points. This is the only provider I've seen this discussion about more than once, however. It seems to come up somewhere every few months. A lot of "no, strictly legit, go elsewhere for extras" etc. followed by one or two guys that say the opposite. You don't see that very often, IMO. But yes, if someone doesn't want to advertise anything else, or doesn't always offer it, fair enough. Especially if they request that it not be aired publicly. That said, it's up to clients to listen to that, unfortunately, and the cat will always come out of the bag eventually. It's pretty hard to keep this kind of thing a complete secret. Not everybody is that respectful of peoples wishes, I guess.

Interesting. This is not the first time I've heard numerous emphatic "no" 's about extras, then someone chimes in with a "yes". Was there a discussion beforehand? Did she offer? Did it just happen? I wonder if she just plays it ultra safe and only does this when she's comfortable or something. Or in the mood...

Judy in Orleans - is there more than one person at that location? I see she works out of a home, but the ad says something about comfortable roomS, and uses "we" in the ad (so I'm assuming so). I'm just curious, as I'm not much into visiting a place that has other patrons at the same time.

Wondering if anyone has seen this woman? I've heard on another forum that ymmv, but in general, just a massage. PM with details if you don't want to discuss publicly. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-health-beauty/ottawa/holistic-massage-therapy-body-and-soul/1391332560?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Thanks, I've seen you before :)

I second this reco. I saw her a few weeks ago, and honestly didn't know she provided extras. I never go into these types of appointments expecting or hoping for anything other than a good massage. And I never ask or even insinuate. If they do, they do, if they don't, they don't. She straight up asked me before we started, which pleasantly surprised me. Massage was great, really. Generally no touching until the end, which I prefer TBH. Got a few "brushes", but nothing overt. Ending was typical, but welcome. Price was right, too. I'd see her again in a heartbeat, if even just for a massage.

I've been a lurker here for a bit, so excuse the low post count. I'm wondering if there are other guys out there like me who are primarily looking for a quality massage first and foremost, with anything "extra" being a cherry on top? In other words, I'm not looking for a purely sexual experience, I guess. I've probably only visited a couple of people who I knew offered extras beforehand, and the massages have been lacklustre, or in one case, downright awful. I've found that providers who focus on that side of things usually provide bad massages, or have no idea what they're doing, or in one case, I actually felt like I might be injured (not even kidding). I've found that coming across someone who gives a good or great massage who also provides an ending (that I didn't know they did before showing up) are the best experiences. In other words, it's much more fun when you're not expecting it 🙂 So far, the ones who do both have asked once I'm on the table. I've never, ever asked, not my style. There's only been one provider who didn't ask, and just went for it. Gutsy on her part, as I never got the impression that was something she offered (everything seemed quite legit, from the ad to the communication, to the location, etc.) I should point out that I'm not one of those guys that goes into a massage "expecting", trying, or even hoping for extras. I've always, always followed the lead of the provider. I've never asked, hinted, or manouevered my body (or body parts) to insinuate I'd like something extra

I visited her a few weeks ago, and just replied to a post below about her. As I said in that one, I don't visit providers who give extras all that often, so I wasn't aware she did until she asked! The massage was fantastic, honestly, and never mind the price. Good location, lots of parking, she was quite pleasant, clean, spoke good English, etc. Standard finish (nothing special), but that's what I'm looking for when I dip into that side of the business 2 or 3 times a year.