ChloeSummers 8409 Report post Posted May 19, 2015 I realize being new here and posting an 'angsty' thread probably isn't the best thing, but it has to be said : For the love of god ladies stop posting ' no restrictions' in your ads. I say this for the following reasons: 1) You place pressure on other women, especially younger, and or newer members to engage in no restrictions. If you truly have no restrictions and enjoy the services you offer, great! Allow people to enquire about your services. A lot of new, or younger girls may think that's standard and will engage in behaviour that can potentially physically harm them, or cause stress, and self- esteem issues. 2) From my experience from many clients who started off with a 'do you have no restrictions', or, 'it's no restrictions, right?' Or even " you will have no restrictions" have been completely foul individuals. I always discuss things extensively with potentials, and luckily sooner rather than later they show just how awful they are via txt, by either calling me a bitch, trying to get discounts, or speaking to me in a very rude, derogatory manner. Worst still, saying they will also get Full Bareback Service. I always refuse these customers, but I may be privileged to do so. Please, ladies, if you specialize in greek or other services, please place that in the ad or tell people while booking. 3) What I've heard from other SP's is that those clients tend to be the most rough, demanding, aggressive (not in the erotic sort of way), and often pay after service or even leave some money out. From what I've gathered from these jerk-off's txts, that seems completely in line with their behaviour and is not surprising. 4) Enabling clients to continue behaving in this manner make it harder for other SP's, as well as yourself in the future. Doing "risky activities" Girls from agencies often charge 'extra's for more risky activities. Make sure other's are not taking advantage of you, and ensure you reduce your risk of exposure ) If you do offer Greek, please enforce rules such as you needing to lube up prior ( so it's adequate, many clients seem to underestimate how much is needed), and try to control the depth for the first minutes. Research how to relax yourself, and how to feel good in this position. Being physically damaged, or psychologically distressed is not worth the extra money. Greek can absolutely be done in a way that feels great, but make sure your client respects how to go about it. If he doesn't respect you or other Sp's, he's not worth dealing with. Full Bareback Service: I really highly recommend you don't do this. I have recently received many txts asking about it. What started this post was a guy starting off his inquiries with' How much donation for hour and do you have any restrictions?' I decided to answer his questions despite his bad grammar and no restrictions comment, responding never hurts. I gave him the usual and he then replied with " if you are clean and DD free I might go for bareback". Seriously, what the fuck? Why is this so common now? Second of all, I did, in no way mention or offer bareback. It really disgusts me that this person just assumed I would preform it, which makes me wonder: How many people are offering this sort of thing now? Secondly, ' if I a clean and DD free' First of all, what is DD? I can only assume it meant disease free. Second of all, way to be completely rude and insulting. If you decide to go ahead with Bareback Full Service for the love of god not only should you charge the typical agency standard for service, you should also charge additional money; I'm talking several hundred more. One girl from an agency does do Bareback Full service, but only with clients she sees regularly, and who get tested regularly. What's more, on top of the $250 an hour agency fee, she also charges 400$ more. Yes, 400$ more. She's gorgeous, so maybe not everyone can charge that much, but at least charge $200 to $300 more. Be smart about who you offer it to. Seriously, if one guy can get away with demanding bareback sex from multiple escorts for cheap, he is at greater risk for having something. Please, ladies. Be smart, be safe, and don't sell yourself short. Most of all, do not let people pressure you to do things you aren't comfortable with. These things really are what define the line between working empowered, while being part of an awesome subculture, and exploitation. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JodyWild 4740 Report post Posted May 19, 2015 Great thread!! BB F/S Is A Big NoNo In Most Sps Eyes, but there are some that post like that & it kinda seems almost like that. We can only control our own stuff and ads right. It sucks that it is happening tho. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malika Fantasy 144625 Report post Posted May 19, 2015 If you decide to go ahead with Bareback Full Service for the love of god not only should you charge the typical agency standard for service, you should also charge additional money; I'm talking several hundred more. One girl from an agency does do Bareback Full service, but only with clients she sees regularly, and who get tested regularly. What's more, on top of the $250 an hour agency fee, she also charges 400$ more. Yes, 400$ more. She's gorgeous, so maybe not everyone can charge that much, but at least charge $200 to $300 more. Be smart about who you offer it to. Seriously, if one guy can get away with demanding bareback sex from multiple escorts for cheap, he is at greater risk for having something. There is nothing about being "smart" and charging an extra 3-4-500$ per hour for bareback full service. No one should do it.Ever. Having money doesn't prove anything. You don't know where every men stick their dicks, I don't know with whom you've slept. It's playing russian roulette with your life to anyone that do it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChloeSummers 8409 Report post Posted May 19, 2015 There is nothing about being "smart" and charging an extra 3-4-500$ per hour for bareback full service. No one should do it.Ever. Having money doesn't prove anything. You don't know where every men stick their dicks, I don't know with whom you've slept. It's playing russian roulette with your life to anyone that do it. I completely and absolutely agree with this. However, if people are already doing it, they are going to continue doing it. At least let those know ( who already do it) that they can be making more money from what they are doing and lessen the clientele list. It's just like pregnancy and abstinence programs: If people are already doing it at least teach them how to be a bit safer, even if it is marginally. Also, if clients keep getting the 'Jesus, that is fucking expensive and I can't afford that' shtick from a strong majority of girls, they will realize it is NOT okay to ask that and stop pressuring other women. ( especially for cheap or 'included in service'). Girls who tend to put themselves at risk often don't have the luxury of turning down clients, have addictions, or need to pay rent badly ( from what I've seen), at least let them make more money for the astronomical risk they are already taking, and will continue to take. A lot of girls, especially when soloing it on Backpage with no other agency girls, or no experience, don't know what is included and may even assume all other escorts do it; that's what needs to be done to stay in the business. Of course the girls doing it already know the risks. The more we make public what is acceptable or not, the more people we can help protect. Clients will stop asking, and Sp's will feel more in the right to deny services. If they won't or can't, at least they can make it more worth their while. The more money we can get for those girls in those really dire situations, the fewer people they will sleep with bareback ( they already made a good chunk of extra money) and lower their risk. It is smarter to charge extra for any and everything if your rates are very low and you really need the money. I don't think I have ever heard of an Independent, privileged, and sans addiction escort offering Full Bareback Sex. This post is more directed at complete newbies, along with the girls on Backpage, or having a 100$ an hour donations or '80$ specials', e.t.c Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites