Angus Podgorny 1361 Report post Posted July 18, 2015 This coming November or December I plan to book an all inclusive vacation package somewhere in The Caribbean and would like to take along a personal companion. Anybody know of SPs who offer attractive packages? Ladies are invited to PM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted July 18, 2015 This coming November or December I plan to book an all inclusive vacation package somewhere in The Caribbean and would like to take along a personal companion. Anybody know of SPs who offer attractive packages? Ladies are invited to PM. Really you should contact a lady who interests you and ask her. She may not have posted sleepover/vacation rates, but if asked she will give you a rate. Who I would like to travel with could be different from who you like. And any ladies I'd like to spend extended time with I already know JMHO but a vacation with a companion would be better with someone you already know, not with a companion you don't and won't know until you meet for the vacation. Some ladies may be uncomfortable doing an extended date with someone they don't know. Two strangers away together could be a recipe for disaster...what if you find out you are incompatible with her and vice versa Finally, a lady may very well request some alone time during the vacation. I know just on a weekend sleepover the lady who blessed me with her company had her personal routine (as I did too). So don't be surprised if a lady requests some alone time while on a vacation with you Good Luck RG 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angus Podgorny 1361 Report post Posted July 18, 2015 Well, I did go to Mexico with an Alberta SP (won't say who) earlier this year. I had seen her before for an extended session. We got along alright. It was good, just not spectacular. I guess that's what I'm wanting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinelli 22184 Report post Posted July 19, 2015 I went to Mexico this winter for a week with a lady. We had a terrific time, maybe the best week of my life to be honest. We knew each other very well and had been seeing each other for years beforehand. Being with someone for a week is a whole lot different than a few hours. Make sure you are compatible in every way possible. If you are sixty and want to spend most of your time relaxing do not take a twenty year old hottie who wants to party, jet ski and parasail. How much do you each plan on drinking? All inclusives bring out the booze hound in some people. Do you know her real name and details? Mexican customs or the hotel staff may ask the two of you questions, not likely but it happens. Mexico can be very conservative in some parts. Some resorts are party central and others, especially five star ones are definitely not. The place we were in ejected a couple of French tourists who kept swimming in the pool topless or even naked. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angus Podgorny 1361 Report post Posted July 19, 2015 Well, I'm not 60, and I don't want to spend a week with a 20 year old. I prefer a bit of experience, say 27 to 35. I do like to party myself but not to the extreme, especially in a place like Mexico, where the culture is less accommodating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *Ste***cque** Report post Posted July 19, 2015 Some quick research of websites of women I might be inclined to take on a vacation runs $10,000+ for a week, plus a business class seat, not to mention the cost of a 5 star resort for 2. Yikes! I know it's just money but at that price point I might be inclined to go it alone and see if I can meet a single girl while I'm on vacation. That sounds more like my dream vacation. By myself, free to read, sleep, explore, eat when and where I want, flirt with single girls. Sigh. I wouldn't want it long term but a week sure sounds nice. The other posters gave you good advice. Set some ground rules for downtime to recharge for both of you. I wouldn't ask too much about her private life, or overshare. I think it could be fun though. Puzzling over each other, wondering what she feels and thinks about life, taking in her beauty as you stroll a moonlit beach and quietly thanking the stars you're in a position to do this. Have fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winnipegcub 21293 Report post Posted July 19, 2015 This can be a great experience with the right lady. And by right lady I'm thinking more of someone you truly connect with and can truly see spending extended time with. I know your questions was: Anybody know of SPs who offer attractive packages? But I honestly don't think it is at all about the packages they offer. It is about the woman herself and how the two of you will enjoy each others company. Since you've done this once before you'll know. I would focus on ladies I might have seen for 2 hour dates or longer or maybe overnights that went really amazing. That might be an indication of success. And then discuss with them the idea of a trip getaway. As was mentioned as well expect to compensate them for time, travel and build in 'alone time' for each of you. If it is someone you've already met and connected with that conversation shouldn't be difficult. Enjoy! 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hector17 9215 Report post Posted July 19, 2015 Some quick research of websites of women I might be inclined to take on a vacation runs $10,000+ for a week, plus a business class seat, not to mention the cost of a 5 star resort for 2. Yikes! I know it's just money but at that price point I might be inclined to go it alone and see if I can meet a single girl while I'm on vacation. That sounds more like my dream vacation. By myself, free to read, sleep, explore, eat when and where I want, flirt with single girls. Sigh. I wouldn't want it long term but a week sure sounds nice. I'm with you...I have found ways to really enjoy the local "flavor" and have had a great time, especially in Mexico!....it's become a "same time next year" thing with one I have met, and it is less than 2 months now till we meet up again...3rd year :-) We have an absolute blast! I found that I had to find a local tour guide/cab driver I could trust....they are in the know, and will help you if you show them some respect and gratitude. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldblueeyez 15475 Report post Posted July 22, 2015 I'm with you...I have found ways to really enjoy the local "flavor" and have had a great time, especially in Mexico!....it's become a "same time next year" thing with one I have met, and it is less than 2 months now till we meet up again...3rd year :-) We have an absolute blast! I found that I had to find a local tour guide/cab driver I could trust....they are in the know, and will help you if you show them some respect and gratitude. Cool. What part of Mexico? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hector17 9215 Report post Posted July 22, 2015 In Northern part ...near Arizona. You will find you get prompted (lol )a bit during the year re Xmas, birthdays, Valentines Day, for "gifts" but it's all good. One time she thought I could bring her a car haha This time she wants me to bring her a phone She's cute in her ways ....and looks 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
backrubman 64800 Report post Posted July 26, 2015 Some quick research of websites of women I might be inclined to take on a vacation runs $10,000+ for a week, plus a business class seat, not to mention the cost of a 5 star resort for 2. Yikes! I know it's just money but at that price point I might be inclined to go it alone and see if I can meet a single girl while I'm on vacation. That sounds more like my dream vacation. As someone who has done this a lot more than once, I don't take those $10,000/week ladies seriously. In fact I won't even ask them to have lunch with me because if the day comes I would like them to be an International Travel companion, well gentlemen don't barter and even Julia Roberts didn't receive that much remuneration from the billionaire Richard Gere in the movie "Pretty Woman" :) Obviously you have to have met the lady before under more usual circumstances and already know her, tell her what the destination and duration is and she tells you what she thinks is fair, take it or leave it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted July 26, 2015 As someone who has done this a lot more than once, I don't take those $10,000/week ladies seriously. In fact I won't even ask them to have lunch with me because if the day comes I would like them to be an International Travel companion, well gentlemen don't barter and even Julia Roberts didn't receive that much remuneration from the billionaire Richard Gere in the movie "Pretty Woman" :) Obviously you have to have met the lady before under more usual circumstances and already know her, tell her what the destination and duration is and she tells you what she thinks is fair, take it or leave it. I don't think she was meant to be there for more than a weekend, so her 5000 plus wardrobe was adequate compensation for non GFE companionship in the 80s lol Good point about the gentlemen don't barter, plus any 10k a week companion is a skilled travel companion, imo, & her clientele is looking for what she is providing, and won't blink at the rate. or more. * the all caps there were not me, it seems to put an acronym thru a filter to come out that way. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
backrubman 64800 Report post Posted July 26, 2015 ...Good point about the gentlemen don't barter, plus any 10k a week companion is a skilled travel companion, imo, & her clientele is looking for what she is providing, and won't blink at the rate. or more. The truth be told I do know a few of these $10,000/week ladies (the professional relationship having started before I realized they were such or before they added that to their web site) and they admitted they have never had any takers :) I'm sure others are as you say and well worth the investment, just not to me - I'd rather a lady that doesn't travel a lot in those circumstances so I get to experience some of her new experiences through her eyes. Some ladies recognize the value of an escape from the harsh Canadian winter (and obviously some compensation for being unavailable to their regular clientele as a bonus) and know me well enough to recognize it won't be "work", just fun in the sun and lots of pampering :) But such an arrangement involves an extreme level of trust and disclosure I would never betray: it's necessary to have a copy of the lady's passport and her real home address to purchase medical insurance for her, unless of course she is willing to take care of those details herself but it's been my experience that level of trust can and does exist and I've always taken care of everything (and of course trusted her with equally sensitive information about me, trust works both ways). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 27, 2015 But such an arrangement involves an extreme level of trust and disclosure I would never betray: it's necessary to have a copy of the lady's passport and her real home address to purchase medical insurance for her, unless of course she is willing to take care of those details herself but it's been my experience that level of trust can and does exist and I've always taken care of everything (and of course trusted her with equally sensitive information about me, trust works both ways). I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just sharing my experience and my opinion of this topic. I have been on vacation with various clients internationally. Them having a copy of my passport and my real home address was not necessary. However, these people have my real name and date of birth. Which alone takes a lot of trust. I was able to have them give me medical insurance too. With that being said, email transfers are really good to keep the escorts anonymity. The lady can set up her own flight and meet the client if they are sharing a room. I have set up whole trips this way with money the client(s) sent me for overhead billing and they paid for my companion fee as well. For example room, flight, health insurance, etc and these clients still know me as Val. However, I have my own credit card. Either way, it takes a lot of trust to go anywhere with a client. It's definitely comfort levels. There are ways of doing things where everyone's comfort level is satisfied. That's why meeting with clients/escorts, seeing if there's trust and a connection is the most important. Try longer dates, overnighters, and establish a relationship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
backrubman 64800 Report post Posted July 27, 2015 I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just sharing my experience and my opinion of this topic. I have been on vacation with various clients internationally. Them having a copy of my passport and my real home address was not necessary. However, these people have my real name and date of birth. Which alone takes a lot of trust. I was able to have them give me medical insurance too. Yes, well the insurance I have always purchased requires the passport # to be specified on the application form and obviously the correct name, DOB and home address to be valid. With that being said, email transfers are really good to keep the escorts anonymity. The lady can set up her own flight and meet the client if they are sharing a room. I have set up whole trips this way with money the client(s) sent me for overhead billing. For example room, flight, health insurance, etc and these clients still know me as Val. However, I have my own credit card. I make sure she is totally independent of me. If she was to feel the need to leave early and return home (not that she ever would with me but it's important she has the means) then she must have that ability without relying on me for anything, just for her complete and total comfort level. Disregarding my envy, could you actually tolerate the same women for so long? Yes, all ladies are different. Getting to know them is one of the hardest and most time consuming things for me, and also they have to know me. So once I know a lady I will continue to see her again and again when she is available. Some people think it is silly to go back to the same resort again and again but I know the staff, I know my way around, I know I can do a little deal with the manager to make something special happen, etc. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted July 27, 2015 Disregarding my envy, could you actually tolerate the same women for so long? Certainly especially with some ladies I could spend weeks with them Bigger question, judging on some guys' posts and threads is how ladies could manage to tolerate spending any time with them RG 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S****r Report post Posted July 27, 2015 Certainly especially with some ladies I could spend weeks with them Bigger question, judging on some guys' posts and threads is how ladies could manage to tolerate spending any time with them RG Hahahaha! Actually, that applies more to guys on some of the other sites, not here on Lyla. Funny comment, though. Made me laugh. :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 T I'd rather a lady that doesn't travel a lot in those circumstances so I get to experience some of her new experiences through her eyes. Some ladies recognize the value of an escape from the harsh Canadian winter (and obviously some compensation for being unavailable to their regular clientele as a bonus) and know me well enough to recognize it won't be "work", just fun in the sun and lots of pampering :) . I am sorry you feel that the only way a paid companion/escort can prove herself is by not taking her work, being a paid companion, seriously enough to actually call it work when she is fulfilling your needs in her capacity as a paid companion. EVEN when that means that she agrees to go on a vacation date with a client. You call it vacation, any escort calls it work, bottom line. the way escorts make money is to be paid for accompanying or spending time with you, it isn't how many hjs or bjs you get at the end of that time. The 10k a week, well if anyone did just a 10 hour overnight with someone for 1000-2500, wouldn't it automatically be a discounted very good deal to only spend 10k for 7 full days and nights? the difference is, instead of periods of time 24 hr or 72 hrs here and there, in this case it is worked out for the whole week. In fact, it is just under 60 bucks an hour. Pretty cheap if you ask me, and a fair compensation for the fact that she is not making an income while with you and for her this is work, not a vacation. You can spin it any direction you wish, but it will never be just a vacay for any paid companion going on any kind of trip with any kind of client. At the end of the day, you have to look at it from a business perspective because the ONLY reason you even know this person is because she put up ads and she provides services in exchange for monetary compensation. And the things she needs to pay for don't go away just because she happens to like you and agree to go on a vacation date with you, she still needs her compensation for potential and lost income that she incurs simply because she is spending her time with you, and not with people paying full rate. And not with people who are her actual family and friends. Don't you think that, in all seriousness, if she wanted a vacation to a sunny place, she would rather be with her SO, or children, or sisters, or mom & dad instead of a business acquaintence? But this time 'being pampered', is time away from her family, friends, and pets. If she lives alone, her pets need to be cared for, which will either inconvenience a friend or she will be paying someone to come in to look after her place while she is away. She will be informing potential clients of her inavailability, clients who may only be infrequent visitors and she will never be able to recoup that visit. She may end up turning away multiple people, only to find out 1 week before the vacation is to take place, her vacay client cancels, gets sick or otherwise bails on her. at this point, it is possible she has had no deposit, and she has turned away appts, so now it isn't just the lost income for being away, it is now costing her money to have agreed to go on a vacay play time pampering she is supposed to be grateful for. Let's just say i am not a fan of the expectations of clients for what they believe these vacation plans should be, on the part of the professional paid companion. somehow the word vacation seems to be applied to the person they want to hire to spend that time with them, and no real understanding that the very word 'hire' is a contradiction to that word vacation. these are not vacations for paid companions. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinelli 22184 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 A couple of ladies have become very good friends of mine and we spend a lot of time together off the clock. Not every minute is work, not every meet is a paid encounter. People can have fun and enjoy themselves together. One of the best, most successful ladies this town ever had took me to dinner yesterday, no strings attached. We visited another lady afterwards. That's what friends do. Both ladies have helped me a lot over the years. I have renovated their houses and helped them too. Either can call me in the middle of the night for help. And vice versa. We met through this but that does not mean it is all we will ever be. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peachka 4334 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 This coming November or December I plan to book an all inclusive vacation package somewhere in The Caribbean and would like to take along a personal companion. Anybody know of SPs who offer attractive packages? Ladies are invited to PM. I would agree with Hector, try to find a local connection you can trust. Ideally, a 'referral' from someone here whom has the connection from being there works best. Also, have you considered Viking Exotic Resort or something similar? http://vikingexoticresort.com/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 28, 2015 I'd have to say that I'm on board with both Fortunateone and Cinelli, but with a slight variation. A vacation is a working job for a lady. Her compensation should be respected and not negotiated. I do not advertise how much my vacations are with anyone, or discuss how much it is, until I'm ready to do such things with a client. This is not and should not be a regular request for just anyone; hense the reason I don't advertise this. I must know the clients, have had long appointments, overnighters, and or trips in Canada, before wanting to go overseas. With that being said, my close regulars would never ever ask me to lower my rates because they respect and care for me. I think that you can care/respect clients and still have a payed relationship with them. You can have a special bond with someone, work with them and enjoy their company. I wouldn't go on a vacation with someone I didn't like. You just can't "fake it" with the amount of time you spend together. There's another thread about escorts being friends with clients. I just can't find it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
backrubman 64800 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 I am sorry you feel that the only way a paid companion/escort can prove herself is by not taking her work, being a paid companion, seriously enough to actually call it work when she is fulfilling your needs in her capacity as a paid companion ... these are not vacations for paid companions. I'm sure your generalizations are generally correct across the board and I've always respected your opinions and immense knowledge of this industry. That being said, when I do take a lady away from her normal work in the great white frozen north we call Canada to a much warmer tropical climate in the dead of winter I always take the philosophy that it is better to give than to receive. At least in my case, be it a relaxing day horse back ridding in the jungle with very competent and trusted private guides or travelling around in a helicopter (with a very experienced pilot), or simply sunning on a beach lounger I find it hard to imagine she sees it as "work" and if any of these activities are first time experiences for her and I get to experience them through her eyes and amazement (that would clearly be boring to me if I was alone) I find myself enriched by the experience perhaps more than her :) While it may be hard for you to believe, I even leave the usual activity one might expect to be occurring between a gentleman and his paid companion entirely up to her to initiate and also make it clear to her that it is to be her vacation as much as it is mine and we do whatever activities she would like to do (as I have been fortunate enough to have done it all before). 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted July 30, 2015 backrubman, i understand that a very few clients prefer to preserve the illusion. that is fine, but never forget, it is NOT a vacation to the sp. A vacation is just that, time away from work. Time with clients, paid time with clients as you have just said is what you provide, is actually work. am i just talking to the air here, is there some kinds of jobs out there where going away to work is considered not work? when your company sends you to Bangkok to go to a conference, pays the entire trip and meals, & you are getting your salary is it not still considered work? It is warm there, and you could take an afternoon off to go ride elephants, but to the company, and you, you are getting paid to go to Bangkok to present at a conference. And I bet, that very few people who get sent to Bangkok by their company, with all expenses paid, are unable to enjoy the fact they are in Bangkok, riding elephants during their downtime, and eating exotic foods in the sunshine. They likely enjoy their coworkers, the people who are also getting paid to be presenters at this sunshiney conference. The people who sell the elephant rides may find it hard to imagine you see this trip as 'work' too, but that doesn't take away from the fact when the ride is over, you return to the reason you are there in the first place: work. It ain't a vacation unless you are taking the time off, away from work, i.e. away from clients, and spending your own money on yourself. I'm sure there is a wiki definition of 'vacation' that does not include getting paid by your companion to spend time with them &/or sexual services, in Jamaica Additional Comments: I'd have to say that I'm on board with both Fortunateone and Cinelli, but with a slight variation. A vacation is a working job for a lady. Her compensation should be respected and not negotiated. I do not advertise how much my vacations are with anyone, or discuss how much it is, until I'm ready to do such things with a client. This is not and should not be a regular request for just anyone; hense the reason I don't advertise this. I must know the clients, have had long appointments, overnighters, and or trips in Canada, before wanting to go overseas. With that being said, my close regulars would never ever ask me to lower my rates because they respect and care for me. I think that you can care/respect clients and still have a payed relationship with them. You can have a special bond with someone, work with them and enjoy their company. I wouldn't go on a vacation with someone I didn't like. You just can't "fake it" with the amount of time you spend together. There's another thread about escorts being friends with clients. I just can't find it. well said 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
backrubman 64800 Report post Posted July 30, 2015 backrubman, i understand that a very few clients prefer to preserve the illusion. that is fine, but never forget, it is NOT a vacation to the sp. A vacation is just that, time away from work. Time with clients, paid time with clients as you have just said is what you provide, is actually work. I accept the fact that you don't believe a genuine "professional" NSA friendship can exist, not having experienced one yourself. I know I could prove you wrong (at least in my case) by citing a number of specific examples that can't be explained away as very good acting but then that would be telling :) Your generalizations are probably dead on but I assure you I'm under no illusions or kidding myself. So we shall have to agree to disagree and leave it at that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 30, 2015 It ain't a vacation unless you are taking the time off, away from work, i.e. away from clients, and spending your own money on yourself. I'm sure there is a wiki definition of 'vacation' that does not include getting paid by your companion to spend time with them &/or sexual services, in Jamaica Come on Fortunateone. What happens in Jamaica, stays in Jamaica! Except maybe a couple of really cool instagram pics. As far as I know, us escorts get paid for our time and companionship, big smile. I'm just playing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites