not so good review...

[grendall 658]

Hi,

 

I know it is a recommendation board, but is there anyway I can avoid a bad experience to other users? It is true that different people get different treatment, but as my 1st experience as a hobbyist, I don't think I will repeat anytime soon. And I paid for that, well lesson learned. If there is a way I can share about my experience please point me in the right direction.

 

Unfortunately I will give an advice (that I didn't follow myself even though it was given several time on CERB) to all 1st timer out there: Stick to CERB ladies especially those with recommendation, don't try to save couple bucks on CL you will ruin your time and wast your money. If you really want to save, get a box of kleenex and an internet connection. If you wish to have great time, well choose your lady carefully. I know at has been said and god I wish I would have listen.

 

I know there is good SP, just wasn't lucky enough or smart enough to get one. Don't learn the hard way, listen to people on CERB.

[mod 135639]

Not on cerb. We do not allow negative posts but if someone ASKS about this lady you can PM that person information (Just not offer it or post her name here)

 

You know about CERB now so picking ladies off CL without checking is a BIG NO NO and you found out the hard way. Do your homework next time and this will help make sure this does not happen again.

[grendall 658]

can I say what happened without saying her name?

[Seymour 3970]

my 1st experience as a hobbyist, I don't think I will repeat anytime soon.

 

Welcome to CERB. Put this bad experience behind you. Take your time, select someone you believe you will click with and go treat yourself. Just guessing you're in Ottawa - there are lots of fine ladies in Ottawa on CERB as well as the Ottawa section of Escorts Canada. (applies to other cities too). ;-)

 

It is also recommended that you be familiar with the Do Not Review (DNR) list published here: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/announcement.php?f=31

 

You've been around since 2009 so you likely already know about this.

 

Enjoy.

[mod 135639]

can I say what happened without saying her name?

Probably better off not to... No one really wants to hear about that stuff here. Your messed up (Used CL without checking) you obviously know better... I say it's best to chalk it up to a screw up and move on.

[Tulsa 130]

Hello Everyone,

 

I would have to say that I'm sorry you had a bad experience with an SP from CL. But being an advertiser (everyday) on CL and also a member of CERB, not all adverstisers on CL are of ill repute or offer a not so good service.

 

My advice to you is to look at all the resources available before making your choice, but not put all the CL advertisers in the same boat (which I'm sure you weren't)

 

I wish you luck in your next venture and hope you will have a much better experience next time sweetie.

[mod 135639]

Of course they are not all bad but it's a FREE UNMODERATED forum that is easily exploited and abused (SO ALL THE SCAMERS FLOCK TO IT) so I say assume they are all potentially BAD and any that your interested in come research or ask about here. If not your at high risk (AS THE ORIGINAL POSTER FOUND OUT FIRST HAND) of getting someone BAD!

 

You need to support the good sites, the ones who do not allow the scams and bait and switch. It costs money to police the sites (Moderate them) as someone is doing a job (Like me) where CL no one is moderating and no one could care less!! Support the sites that fight for you!! That kick the scum off and have integrity! It may cost a few dollars on sites like escorts-canada to advertise but it's worth every penny as you will not be mixed in with all the scammers and you would be supporting a site that fights for this industry! CERB ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE OF REVENUE FROM ESCORTS-CANADA so by support a site like CL and coming here to DEFEND it and PROMOTE IT is a BIG KICK IN THE FACE and I think very shortly we will have to change our policies here if this trend continues. EC is not going to support cerb if stuff like this continues.

 

Tulsa, you use this site but are supporting CL you don't even have an ad on EC (And I don't see you with an ad on EC in the past unless it was under a different name). You have not purchased a banner on cerb or done anything to help financially support this site. You seam to just use everything you can that is FREE for you and people like this usually do not consider the big picture. I am not sure what direction cerb is going to go but if people continue to do this I don't see the future being all that bright for cerb.

 

CL is not going to change any time soon. For those "Good" ladies who support it... well your just making it easier for the scammers as your part of the problem as your ads are the ones that help bring traffic for them and your giving the scammers a place to go!

 

Your actually doing harm to the industry by supporting such a place and I know many of you don't consider the effects you actions have on the industry and only really consider what is best for you personally right at this moment (and I don't blame you for that) but please keep this in mind... CL is turning the clock backwards in this industry - it's making MORE AND MORE scammers (Bait and switch, robberies, pimps, etc...) all get involved as it's free and it's a place they can easily exploit!! AND THEY DO!!

 

Think of this... How many guys for the FIRST TIME call a girl from CL and get bait and switched or scammed in some way (Have a horrible experience?) ... those guys who have a BAD experience off CL may NEVER use a escort again.

 

Who looses here? You a little... but future generations of escorts are loosing BIG time as this is a paradox (What you are doing now will greatly effect the future for this industry)

Some of you complain about SLOW TIMES? Wonder why less guys are booking escorts? Wonder where that money is now going? (A lot of it - as we can clearly see here is going to the bait and switch, pimps and scammers on CL) - Sometimes I think I am the only one who see's this!?!? These people are taking YOUR clients and scamming them (with no concern for themselves) and they are giving you all a BAD NAME!! and you just let them do it!! and worst of all some of you SUPPORT these sites like CL!?!?!? ?!!?

 

Now this is happening MORE AND MORE all the time as CL gains popularity! Why is CL gaining popularity??? Because some of the good ladies are supporting it and that is just a shame!

 

I know a lot of you use it because it has high traffic but remember... you are pushing the industry backwards when you do this! I CAN not allow people to promote CL here because it's VERY damaging to our entire industry and I look at the BIG PICTURE as I would like to have a job in 10 years!!

 

If the ladies who are not scammers would just abandon it and leave it for the scammers it would loose popularity. Some of you think "It's free" .. it's not! It comes at a price and your just not getting it!! Every dollar that goes to a scammer is a dollar out of the pockets of the ladies who deserve it!

 

Now we have American sites getting desperate to compete with CL and CVibe for instance now has the same free exploitable text ads that CL has. Is this really where the industry is headed???

 

If this continues 10 years from now your all going to be scratching you heads and pointing fingers at other things saying it must be that reason why this business is gone to crap!! Just remember CL is the reason and your supporting it now you and still in the business in 10 years you will deserve what you have to look forward to.

 

You think I am over exaggerating? I have been involved in the industry since 1992 and I have seen the trends and how things are effected by bad industry choices. I have watched strip clubs go from million dollar establishments to just getting by as the industry was exploited with lap dancing. I watched massage spa's pop up on every corner and kill off a big chunk of the strip club and escort industry money. I watched the internet grow and start to turn power back to the independent escorts and start to make the industry respectable in the media while the pimps and scammers started to loose power... and now I see sites like CL that are giving power back to the pimps and the scammers and some of you are allowing this to happen inadvertently.

 

See you in 10 years as the industry is not headed in a good place with sites like CL. Now is the time to stop this trend or pay the price down the road.

[Tulsa 130]

In response to the MOD:

 

Just to clarify I am not, and it was not my intention, promoting CL or any other forum for that matter.

 

Everyone is their own person and can choose which medium they use I was simply stating that not all are bad apples, and in a sense I was promoting verifying credentials before you make a decisions. Which means if you see someone you like on CL, cross reference with here, EC or any other medium at your disposal.

 

One of our member here dedicates a lot of time and effort fishing out the scammers bait/switch, etc on his site. He does it for free (and you have the option of paying him "beers"). Yet another tool to see the scammers and avoid them.

 

This said, no i did not purchase a banner from CERB, nor do I have an ad on EC, I was not told this was a requirement and yes I am prevailing myself of the FREE services that are offered. I do appreciate the fact that this forum is MODERATED, and i'm sorry that I didn't think of buying a banner to support this site. I will make a point of doing this as soon as possible.

 

In closing, I tend to disagree with the MOD with respect to his comment regarding FREE ad sites. I believe everything in every day purchases from purchasing from your big box store to online purchases is a BUYER BEWARE market. This said, any good salesman can sell you a "lemon" if you don't do your homework and decide to buy on his/her word, you'll buy the "lemon", it will break down, rip you off, etc... however is it the salesperson's fault? Yes and No -- YES he could have told you the CONS regarding this particular product, but would have lost income, NO because it's really his job to SELL the product, no turn you away from it.

 

As a consumer, it's your JOB to do research, and be aware of what you're buying. This particular individual, and the reason for this post, saw a product (the escort ad), got sold on it and bought a "lemon". He learned from his mistake I'm sure, may never shop again at the big box online discount store that is CL, but in the end if he would have done his homework, fished out the scam using CERB, EC or any other medium free or not, he would have seen the "lemon" said no thanks and moved on.

 

Are we going backwards or ruining our industry by using these mediums? I don't agree. Are we opening the door to scammers, etc, my answer is that no matter what we do, there are people out there just waiting to scam you, if not on CL than they will use other ways. CL actually allows sites like CERB to flourish since it is just like a big box store and offers almost all you need in one location.

 

How many of us walk in to a big box store for 1 item and walk out with another and spend twice as much as originally budgetted? I would think most of us. The same is true for CL, I'm sure a portion of the audience go on there looking for something and end up just browsing our section, and if the timing is right, the ad attractive enough, well you get yourself a client.

 

CERB on the other hand is like your lingerie store at your local mall. Unless your specifically looking for lingerie, you won't go in there. Therefore both are needed to grab as much of a clientele and maximize your marketing.

 

When I post somewhere, one of my first thought and what I like to find out is

a) are there people that visit on here, if so how many?

b) is spending time updating, maintaining and monitoring this particular marketing tool going to bring back a good ROE.

 

So far I have found that CERB is a very good ROE, thank you MOD for you fantastic work in making it all possible!

CL is the other medium that gives me a good ROE. I am advertised on other sites which don't give me such good ROE, therefore I just monitor them very, very infrequently.

 

As for EC, I'm not a fan of the layout and I do know some SPs that advertise there and they say it doesn't bring them much in way of business hense the reason I am not advertised on there.

 

Now that I am done ranting and raving, expect to see a CERB banner on my site in the very near future! :)...

[fortunateone 156618]

Sorry I do have to agree with Tulsa here (not sorry I am agreeing but that it does seem to be a dig at mod, which is not my intent).

 

I and other CL advertisers have attempted time and again to explain the rationale behind using CL. It is not entirely because it is free. It is because it gets the traffic, which brings the clients, which, in the end for the ladies East of me, enables them to pay for advertising on more focused sites like EC, cerb, etc. Would you really deny these sps access to this site because we actually need to make a living at this, and frankly the only way this is going to happen is by using ALL the tools available to us.

 

I use another free site (and have utilized free ad offers from various sites that have come and gone) and can honestly say that I have NEVER had one client from those other sites. I do pay for advertising in a newspaper/online that is more appropriate to my location and servies, and that costs me far more than most online advertising -- but I can pay them in cash, and not use CC or other online payment methods which suits me. I currently spend over $250 a month on ads, and post daily ads on CL, and the majority of my clients (who are ALL GREAT HONEST AND GENUINELY NICE GUYS) come from CL not my paid ads.

 

The OP had resources available, was given tips for choosing first sps, and probably oodles of suggestions, yet still thought he knew best and went ahead and did everything wrong. It had nothing to do with choosing someone on CL, because I hear the same stories from guys who make their first mistakes choosing to go to a micro, an asian massage parlour, or use an agency instead of an independent.

 

And the scammers, many of them, when they pop up on CL vancouver ARE FROM AGENCIES lo;. So yes, Tulsa is again correct when she says that this sort of sp/advertiser will alays find a way to find clients. If CL was not there, then they would simplhy be elsewhere. It is buyer beware, at all times. For even a great sp can be a bad time for a guy who is really looking for all the things she does not provide, and ends up thinking she is a lousy sp when the reality is he did not ask about the things he wanted.

[Valexio 176]

I was told by grendall about his encounter personally. I am a rookie myself at this and I for sure have tuned my ears into cases like grendall experienced. I have spoken to PistolPete about his views and Cowboy Kenny n they have been very informative. I am hoping my first experience goes well but I am for sure going to choose a girls from CERB. Probably will be a regular on here depending on my experiences. =)

 

Cheers

:-D

[Annessa 22743]

I will also start by saying that this is not a dig at mod, but i do support what the ladies here have said so far....

 

many of us cerb ladies also advertise on CL....we have to make the best of all the options available to us to get the most traffic possible....not so many gents are as lucky to know about cerb and it doesnt mean that the ohes who dont know about cerb are all rude or disrespectful (as many ladies will claim of the guys that phone them up via CL)....just the same as the guys cant generalize all the gals who post on CL as pimp-ruled scam artists (not saying anyone has said that...by any means)

 

I definitely agree that if you choose a lady off of CL and are going off of zero research then you are indeed taking a chance....a huge chance. Thats why I feel it is so important that you not judge the source of the information....or the tingle in your pants at the sight of the photo.......but the easy tool of escort research.....google a name and city of a gal! go by a girl that has been reviewed *somewhere*......but take a stab in the dark at a "too good to be true" price and picture of someone whos "new to the biz" and if you ignore your conscience....you have only a hard lesson to learn.

 

Dont bash the site....bad apples exist everywhere...even on here (before they're ruled out of course)....dont let the bad apple ruin you, let it make you wiser in the future.

[spud271 47779]

I will also start by saying that this is not a dig at mod, but i do support what the ladies here have said so far....

 

many of us cerb ladies also advertise on CL....we have to make the best of all the options available to us to get the most traffic possible....not so many gents are as lucky to know about cerb and it doesnt mean that the ohes who dont know about cerb are all rude or disrespectful (as many ladies will claim of the guys that phone them up via CL)....just the same as the guys cant generalize all the gals who post on CL as pimp-ruled scam artists (not saying anyone has said that...by any means)

 

I definitely agree that if you choose a lady off of CL and are going off of zero research then you are indeed taking a chance....a huge chance. Thats why I feel it is so important that you not judge the source of the information....or the tingle in your pants at the sight of the photo.......but the easy tool of escort research.....google a name and city of a gal! go by a girl that has been reviewed *somewhere*......but take a stab in the dark at a "too good to be true" price and picture of someone whos "new to the biz" and if you ignore your conscience....you have only a hard lesson to learn.

 

Dont bash the site....bad apples exist everywhere...even on here (before they're ruled out of course)....dont let the bad apple ruin you, let it make you wiser in the future.

 

I very much agree with you Annessa. Most ladies on CERB do advertise on CL, so I really don't understand what the issue is. There are definitely some bad apples on there, but if you read Cowboy Kenny's diary, you will know who they are. I have had some great experiences with women I've met on CL. There are bad apples everywhere, if it sounds too good to be true...it probably is!

[Guest s******ecan****]

I understand both points of view. CL is a low cost competitor for EC, no doubt one that is having an impact on potential revenue for EC. Naturally the ladies as business people are going to make make business decisions based on cost and ROE, and individual business needs as well.

 

I think Mod's post is important. CERB exists essentially as a value added offering by EC. It probably doesen't turn a profit on its own. Therefore rational business decisions will ultimately prevail in regards to CERB's policies and its continued existence.

 

I'm not trying to tell anyone how to run their business, I can only speak for myself. I would never have goten into the hobby through CL. I also know because of CERB I have spent significantly more $$$ on the industry than I would have if CERB didn't exist.

 

Kijiji used to offer personal ads as well but ultimately dropped that as a corporate decision. Maybe someday pressure will be brought to bear on CL to do this as well as politicians and LE look for "easy" ways to appear to be doing something about prostitution in Canada. Search engines may also start to object to CL in this regard....or maybe not who knows?

 

I bought a banner ad on CERB last year as a thank you to a very special lady, but now I'm also happy that benefited CERB and EC as well since they indeed provide a value added service to me.

 

Again just putting in my 2 cents, not trying to tell anyone what to do or how to run their business.

[lookingforfunxxx 615]

Well, I can't say that i agree with mod here. I have been seeing sps on the low end of the spectrum (streetwalkers) for a long time before finding CL and then Cerb. I think I have experienced most scams and cons. What I have found since going on the internet is that the scammers are really MUCH easier to identify.

 

On a site like Cerb there are less issues and they seem to be more about quality rather than scams. Since no negative reviews are permitted, a better impression is made of some of the sps here than one would get elsewhere since we do not hear about the bad days and dates. I have called several sps form here now and have found only minor hygiene, behaviour and chemistry issues - not a single scam so far.

 

On free sites such as CL it is definitely buyer beware in the sense that you must evaluate the add to see if it is a scam. For example:

a) is the add written in the third person? - likely an agency or pimp involved

b) is the photo a little too polished? - possibility of bait and switch

c) is the text over the top (sounding like a teenagers wet dream)? - likely the girl will not be as advertised since she probably did not write the add

d) i could go on.....

 

Finally, and this is directed more at MOD than anyone else, sites like Cerb are not all that well known to casual hobbyists (who are probably the majority of hobbyists) and therefore a well known site like CL will always draw larger numbers of clients. The numbers will dictate the economics and that will determine the relative popularity of the sites. Make no mistake: the sps are here to make money, if the money is to be had with CL they will advertise there - no question about it. If you want this trend to change you need to make these moderated sites as well know to the public as CL is now.

[mod 135639]

Well thankfully CL looks like it's in a heap of legal nightmare in the USA as of Friday and maybe that will knock them out a little. Here is hopping!

 

Walmart is a good example as it comes to a town and destroys all the smaller retail business's and downtown market spaces (The places where you get the best service and that personal touch) and often offers you less quality products and pays crappy wages to people who could care less to help any of the customers. Maybe that is the way everything is headed... maybe we should just offer free CL type ads on EC and have them unmoderated too? (OMG I would be hung for even suggesting that at a staff meeting!)

 

No one can compete with FREE especially when it's un-moderated free as you do not need to pay someone to moderate a site like that. It comes at a price however and the price is not always clear at first.

 

Maybe those who use CL now don't care about stuff like the future of the business but all you guys who support CL your supporting a direction that you do not want this industry to go! You all complain about bait and switch and all the other crap that comes with the business and those SAME GUYS use CL and are supporting the very place that is allowing most of this to take place! It's SICK!

 

Sure all the ladies who use it are going to try to convince everyone it's ok and defend it (It's free - they see that as a good thing and often don't look past that). Whats that saying... you can't have your cake and eat it too?

 

It all comes full circle. Sites like cerb are not money makers and rely on the ladies advertising to keep them afloat. In the case of cerb we rely on the ladies supporting escorts-canada as that is who pays the bills for cerb. The other large discussion sites also rely on advertising revenue (without that they would not exist as these sites are high traffic and expensive to run with very little income generated compared to the expense)

 

Making a site like cerb (Strictly a local Canadian site) as popular as CL? Are you kidding me? Do you know how much it would cost to promote cerb to that level? (Probably not cause you made that statement and are probably under the impression that it's easy to do!) - CL has been online for MANY years and was lucky enough to catch on. In this day and age you would need to spend MILLIONS of dollars to get as popular as CL or do something cutting edge like facebook and twitter have done. Suggesting that we promote the site better (a site that makes NO money) is ridiculous!

 

When you consider it's pretty much a full time job these days for me to run cerb (I don't work for free as much as I like you all I need to live) and we may make at most $800.00 a month on banner revenue so who pays my salary, who pays for the cost of the servers, cost of the chat room FMS server, custom upgrades, etc...?? The math is simple... This site does not even come close to breaking even let along being profitable.

 

If this trend and support for CL continues it will be very bad for everyone who enjoys sites like cerb or EC as we would have to choice but to make drastic changes to continue to operate.

 

I am sure EC will be around forever as many people don't want to deal with CL and want a better more reliable site but if revenue drops on EC cerb will cease to exist as it runs as a loss (Or we just start charging the ladies if they wish to post ads on here like the other discussion sites do or charge a membership fee to everyone but I doubt that would work) we would need to find volunteer moderators like the other sites do and see if we can generate enough income to keep it running but either way it would be a drastic change ... in other words the site would go down hill and none of us want that but few people look to the future and think "I wonder what my actions today will impact the future". I guess I am one of the few who see this going VERY bad.

 

Support CL if you must but in a few years don't point your finger at others when your scratching your head wondering what the hell happened to the industry! Many times the idea to remove ALL references to CL on cerb have come up in conversation here and it may only be a matter of time before we choose to make it a rule not to even mention the letters CL on cerb.

 

Maybe it would be best for us to take the stand against CL more personally and just say that anyone who uses CL is on their own! Seams 90% of the time when someone asks about someone on CL here on cerb the answer is always the same "I PMed you info" (Meaning I can't post the truth as this site does not allow negative posts)

 

It's only a matter of time... I am sure we will wait to see what the latest legal battle against CL in the USA and the 17 states who are now banned together to force CL into removing the adult section. CNN did a investigative report and cover on this and interviewed craig himself calling CL the "Walmart of child sex trafficking"

 

Really... is exploited and un-moderated forums really the direction we want the industry to go after all this work to bring it into a positive light? Does this not set us all back 20+ years?

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

While I will fully admit that I did not completely read all the posts...alll I will say is that it is not possible to rely solely on Cerb for encounters! Make of this comment as you wish!

[lookingforfunxxx 615]

Mod, as you have said in your post it is uneconomical to promote Cerb to be as well known as CL. I am not an idiot - that is self evident. My point was that it is a pipe dream to expect sps to use solely Cerb as oposed to CL and others. The economics are against you and imho berating sps and hobbyists for frequenting CL is a waste of time and serves only to irritate people.

[Parker 19761]

I have been seeing sps on the low end of the spectrum (streetwalkers) for a long time before finding CL and then Cerb.

 

I don't understand why people come on, especially here, and make statements like such.. I mean, it's great you found Cerb.. but the statement made isn't going to score you points with anyone..

 

While I will fully admit that I did not completely read all the posts...alll I will say is that it is not possible to rely solely on Cerb for encounters! Make of this comment as you wish!

 

I would have to disagree..

I do/have used a couple free sites, (excluding CL as I have yet to ever advertise there) but I've never gotten any clients from them... so almost all of my clients come from Cerb.

[lookingforfunxxx 615]

I don't understand why people come on, especially here, and make statements like such.. I mean, it's great you found Cerb.. but the statement made isn't going to score you points with anyone...

 

It isn't about scoring points; it is background information.

FYI: Streetwalkers were a mixed group until a few years ago when police "cleaned it up". It used to be single moms and students on the respectable side and the druggies on the bad (now it is almost entirely druggies). Because it was a mixed crowd it explains my following statement of having experienced most scams first hand and of having experience sorting the bad from the good sps.

[PistolPete 61421]

I know that ladies advertise over there on CL. All I got to say, I would be going "back in time" visiting local newspaper ad's,or any other form of advertisement that is free such as CL,Quest,or what have you.

 

But if the time ever comes that I would not see EC or CERB, I would honestly simply quit. I have at hand the most greatest tool right here as I'm writing this thread at hand,to check schedules,meet ladies without going through all the hoops and bullshit.

 

How would you like to walk into a room with an underage lady? The scams are quite alive on that site,and I choose to not go on that site period, again that is my choice only. As it is some of the ladies choice to advertise there.

 

 

The fundamental issue at hand is the "yes" ladies need clientele from other sources,but "think about it" if this site was gone,or in fact EC was gone too? Just how many gents would you loose over that time period.

 

Food for thought....eh?

 

Additional Comments:

I don't think MOD was berating anyone, perhaps I would view as a gesture asking why? If you have good here,or marketing campaign perhaps,but not berating anyone. In my humble opinion.

 

Mod, as you have said in your post it is uneconomical to promote Cerb to be as well known as CL. I am not an idiot - that is self evident. My point was that it is a pipe dream to expect sps to use solely Cerb as oposed to CL and others. The economics are against you and imho berating sps and hobbyists for frequenting CL is a waste of time and serves only to irritate people.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

I will not enter a debate on CL (I have used CL myself to look for ladies, and have encouraged those I see on CL to join cerb and some have) but I think that we can use CL and be fully supportive of cerb at the same time in a more proactive manner.

 

We cerbites (ladies and gents alike) are here because we like cerb and we benefit by being here on cerb, in different ways. For ladies at least part of their clientele is from cerb (and as one lady SP pointed out, almost all for her) and we gents also benefit (though may be not financially) by finding and meeting the right ladies free of Bait and swicth on a very safe and highly moderated site. Cerb has provided the safe environment for us to meet ladies and for ladies to meet (mostly) classy clients. Would it be not right to say that we (all cerbites) must support this site in anyway that we can??.

 

As one suggestion, I would say for the ladies to return the favor in a small way by voluntarily choosing Escorts-Canada to advertise (as a number of cerbite ladies do already) or purchase banners here on cerb. It will be a very small portion of the income that being on cerb generates for the ladies and at the same time enhance their visibility in the best way. And for us gents, purchase longer term banners or ads on Escorts-Canada as gift for our favorite ladies (those who give us so much pleasure). It is a small gift to the very precious ladies on this board for all the great time and unimaginable pleasure they grant us and I am sure they would all appreciate it. Besides this is a very small way to express our thanks and show our appreciation to the board which I believe has provided a very safe environment for our precious SPs to work and paves the way for us to meet them as well.

 

The thought of cerb one day ceasing to exit as I was reading mod's post sent shockways throughout my nerves. None of us would want to see that horrible day lol and we must do our share to make sure that day will never come even close lol.

[PistolPete 61421]

many of us cerb ladies also advertise on CL....we have to make the best of all the options available to us to get the most traffic possible....

 

Dont bash the site....bad apples exist everywhere...even on here (before they're ruled out of course)....dont let the bad apple ruin you, let it make you wiser in the future.

 

I have once only come across 1 bad apple on this site-SP, compared to the many bad apples-SP's found on CL and the local newspapers. I think I like my odds a lot more here at CERB or EC then there on CL.

 

Additional Comments:

Oh ya lets not forget how many genuine SP's here on CERB had their pictures stolen on CL, and someone else was using them and advertising on that site and it was all bullshit:ablow:!

[VedaSloan 119179]

People are going to use whatever tools are at their disposal in order to make a living. CL is free and gets a lot of traffic. End of story.

 

And really, the biggest competition to SP's are all the women giving it away for free. ;)

[roamingguy 300292]

My first SP experience was off CL. The experience, well I felt I was raped, paid $400.00 got very little (in a 2 hour period, maybe total 40 minutes...she needed lots of breaks) Chalk it up to a learning experience.

No more CL for me

RG

[mod 135639]

While I will fully admit that I did not completely read all the posts...alll I will say is that it is not possible to rely solely on Cerb for encounters! Make of this comment as you wish!

 

Others disagree but why not a combo of EC and CERB?

 

The following is not directed at Meg but to all SP's....

escorts-canada brings a higher quality of customer overall (Much less headache clients that you find on bargain hunter sites like CL - You know the ones you all complain about. We don't screen the men for you but FAR less guys go to a site like EC looking for a cheap date!)

 

EC keeps the ladies very busy without the need for CL or other sites for many. Best of all it helps support CERB where you all obviously do great business from as well... and most importantly it keeps me employed so the cerb site stays running and continues to improve.

 

As others have mentioned if you appreciate cerb and it brings you customers you can show your support by running a ad on escorts-canada (It's a win-win situation as it will benefit you as it will bring customers to you and it supports the sites that have integrity!!) and we do not have a DONATE button or anything like that.

 

The rule in most business is you have to spend money to make money (That is apparently not true in this business as places like CL do bring money for free - it's only your time and headache that is costing you.... but sites like EC and cerb who fight for integrity and showing the industry in a positive way do deserve some support and many of you do help support us (and its' very much appreciated) I just wish more would see why it's important for the long term!

 

I do/have used a couple free sites, (excluding CL as I have yet to ever advertise there) but I've never gotten any clients from them... so almost all of my clients come from Cerb.

 

Thank you Naomi! Your comment is very much appreciated.

 

I don't think MOD was berating anyone, perhaps I would view as a gesture asking why? If you have good here,or marketing campaign perhaps,but not berating anyone. In my humble opinion.

 

Thanks Pete, and yes I am not berating anyone. I said "I don't blame the ladies for advertising on CL" but they need to be aware (and so do the guys) that supporting that site is hurting the industry that we are trying so hard to make better for everyone. It's like waving a a steak in front of an hungry bear... it's not a matter of "IF" it's a matter of "WHEN" sites like EC start to loose enough ground to places like CL .. if that happens and revenue drops the first place to cut costs would logically be anything and everything that runs at a loss (CERB).

 

As one suggestion, I would say for the ladies to return the favor in a small way by voluntarily choosing Escorts-Canada to advertise (as a number of cerbite ladies do already) or purchase banners here on cerb. It will be a very small portion of the income that being on cerb generates for the ladies and at the same time enhance their visibility in the best way. And for us gents, purchase longer term banners or ads on Escorts-Canada as gift for our favorite ladies (those who give us so much pleasure). It is a small gift to the very precious ladies on this board for all the great time and unimaginable pleasure they grant us and I am sure they would all appreciate it. Besides this is a very small way to express our thanks and show our appreciation to the board which I believe has provided a very safe environment for our precious SPs to work and paves the way for us to meet them as well. Just my 2 cents.

 

Thanks SA. I think cerb is being taken for granted from a number of people. I am (admittedly) becoming jaded with some people from certain comments made. I would think this would be common sense and I may be wrong. I hope more people choose to support cerb and EC and that I am wrong about the direction of the business. I really hope I am wrong but I doubt I am.

 

I am hoping that the legal battle that CL is facing right now is going to CRUSH them and collapse the site. We work too hard to make sure the bad apples stay off cerb and ec so to have someone as powerful as CL come and allow the site to be exploited this way is horrible and having so many people support CL is just a BIG KICK IN THE FACE as we try to hard to ensure integrity and apparently many people have no interest in that.

 

Those scammers, bait and switchers, pimps, sex traffickers, etc... that LOVE CL so much are taking money out of our industry and leaving a trail of very DISAPPOINTED men that many of them may NEVER hire a SP again as they will just assume that is how this business works!! You may not do business this way but if you support a site that does your not helping the problem!

 

WHO LOOSES???? (Answer: We all do)