What's with the $300 +/hr SP's

[someguy 67067]

I've spent many times chatting with women and realize how much time and money is involved in there preparation of there time to spend with us men.

 

I've appreciated the time and effort that these women take to make me happy and give my the passion and attention that I am missing from personal live.

 

They need to charge enough to cover their expenses and save up for the slow times.

Some have families to support or tuition to pay for. They could be saving for retirement as this may be their only source of income.

 

They are taking risk in this business, there are healthy and safety risk.

 

Touring women have much more expenses as demonstrated above. A lot of travelling and business expense. Having a personal and business location.

 

Spending time with a beautiful sexy woman who will provide sexy memories. Priceless :)

For everything else there's mastercard.

[Guest st*****ens**ors]

This sort of question is one I have encountered from time to time in my own professional life. My answer is always the same.

 

You can say you can't afford my service, but you can't tell me that I'm too expensive.

 

The former statement indicates your budget or perception of value. All well and good.

 

The latter indicates your belief that you have the right to dictate the value of what I provide. You don't.

 

No one, other than a provider, has the right EVER to tell her what she is worth. If she chooses to request thousands of dollars for minutes of her attention, it is her business, both philosophically and literally. The implications for her business model are hers to determine, and hers alone.

 

She doesn't have to sell you anything. She can walk away any time she chooses.

 

If your budget is limited, then save up. If you don't want to save up, find services within your price range. If the services you want are not within your price range, the problem lies with your expectations.

[whiteman 14028]

One of the great things about wild threads like this is that you get to see the providers with the most intelligent answers. Intelligence is a turn-on, and helps narrow down the providers you would see. :icon_twisted:

[PistolPete 61421]

You think 350 is lots, lol, but again that is here in Canada. Guess you might think I'm crazy than, seeing a Companion in the USA and her rates are 600.00 an hour, I booked her, but not for an hour but a overnight together. (Her longer bookings is less than a her hourly rate)

 

Can you imagine with the CDN AND USD exchange rate what that might of been? OMG...horrible isn't it < sarcasm ;)

 

You see, its really not about the rate, (well for me anyways), it is about maturity,communication,timing and when I simply want to indulge.

 

For those that use comparisons to cars,restaurants etc etc, in this thread, really should not do that. The ladies at either 200-240-300-350-600 rates are human beings they fulfill their life style, by their rate for service provided.

 

We as gentlemen, should either except, or move on what is within our budget means.

 

To those bashing the thread starter, I think he just asked a question, why different rates, if you read his last sentence. The answer is quite easy : BECAUSE THEY CAN :) it is their choice, their business.

 

I've also met many ladies (MA's or SP's) and there was/is always a variance in rates, but that is choice, and we as gents have a choice, just make yours a wise choice that is within your monetary and budget.

 

Oh and has nothing to do with if she thinks she is worth more at a higher rate, it is her CHOICE. ;) She may want to only see gents for longer engagements or only one to two gents a day, so rates are a little higher.

 

I like the ladies that stay away from drama,they are the ladies that just might have higher rates, and are not constant complainers, on how telling us gents through media,boards constantly how we should behave for appointments. When I see that much negativity coming from same group of ladies, I just don't communicate with them.

 

Life is suppose to be positive, and upbeat, not negative and constant lecturing, I'm an older guy and I prefer the ladies that act positive, upbeat and keep me smiling. I'm also much more selective at my older age, and I have been around long enough to know how to exactly conduct myself in this business.

 

Peace out!

 

 

 

So, I'm trying to figure this out without sounding like a total douche bag here. I've been on LYLA (CERB) for close to 6 years I gather and a hobbyist for the same amount of time and have met some fantastic and gorgeous women here. I've always cherished and loved their company. On average, the SP's charge anywhere from $200 to $240, which is what I'm willing to spend. MA's anywhere from $160 to $200.

 

I'd like to start this thread off with a question...

 

What I don't get is why certain MA's or SP's could substantiate charging $300 + an hour?

 

I had an opportunity to meet with an SP last week. We got to texting a bit but not a lot so I can find out a bit about her. Turns out she was charging $350 for an hour. Like WTF? The audacity though to get the "Thanks for wasting my time" after I declined to meet.

 

I've met with both whom I feel charge too much for not as good quality companionship and vice versa. Met with both who need to charge more (which, btw, I always take out an extra $20 before I leave and place it properly where it needs to be.)

 

Does one feel that they're worth more? All because they have modeling photos done or spent the time to create a website? I'm intrigued to find out. See what kind of feedback this thread will get.

[Rounding Third 9568]

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I'd like to start this thread off with a question...

 

What I don't get is why certain MA's or SP's could substantiate charging $300 + an hour?

 

Interesting thread, but really, no no need to get excited or call anyone out on this because it is all simply fundamental economics. Your basic Economics 1000 course tells us that in a free market price is where demand and supply intersect. Furthermore the price of a commodity or service equates fair market value (FMV) and the legal definition of FMV is what a reasonable person would pay for a good or service.

 

So, with that in mind the OP's original question is a bit off in my opinion. It is not so much a question as to why MA's or SP's substantiate a $300 plus fee, it is more of a questions as to why clients regularly pay those rates. Well, I can help with that question. You see, i am a reasonable person, have been participating in this community for a long time, and regularly pay fees of $350.00 plus and will continue to do so. Why? Because I have had a ton of fun and I meet great ladies. In fact I am seeing a very special companion tomorrow. I perhaps could articulate more on this question but will not, because if you need to ask the question as to why 350 plus fees are paid then you will not understand the answer.

 

I am a quite entertained by the the OP's question and had some fun thinking about it. As I said earlier, our community is a free market but the OP's question could be construed as suggesting it should not be. So what are the alternatives, a system of price controls?... or how about a "Hobbyist Co-Op"... or "an SP Marketing Board"... see what I mean, it is quite amusing :).

[Carrie Moon 68826]

I get your question.. because you have a perceived.. 'going rate' going on in your head.. likely based on the experience you've had that the sp's you've seen offer that rate.. I did when I started..

BUT I've now got 25+ years of experience.. plus I'm well known (high exposure) so I have 'fans' that book me...so I increased my rates a bit more..

And my regulars still book me at my 'post-porn' rates

You'd think that would result in fewer bookings.. but what it does in fact is allow me to be more choosy in who I see..

 

Clients who respect my rate.. usually respect me.. no matter what I charge.

 

Clients (or rather prospective clients) who try to tell me I'm charging too much don't get very far. In fact I had one that sounded about 24 on the phone try to explain to me 'the going rate'.. so I laughed at him.. and said.. I've literally been at this longer than you've been alive and you think you can tell me 'the going rate'? Be serious!

 

We didn't meet that day.. but eventually he'll either decide to book me respectfully at my rate or see someone else..

 

Either way it makes no difference to me. I can't please everyone. But while he's wistfully hoping I'll let him book me at his requested rate.. there's another absolutely lovely client not only paying my rate but tipping me after the fun session we've just had..

You do the math :)

 

I don't think it's fair as some have suggested that ladies who charge $200/hr are running an assembly line. I know for a fact several ladies who charge much less and see way fewer clients than I do.. and some who charge more see way more clients!

 

When I started in 1990 the rates were all over the map as well.. nothing has changed. We are not in a union after all :P

[Guest N***he**Ont**y]

I am a small business person and I employ people that work in a limited small market. I pay above the average wage for people in my industry to keep the talent working for me. Now in the case of the independent ladies who run their own business only they know what their cost of doing business is. So they know what their break even point is before making a profit. They determine what their services are worth and not the market price you keep harping about. You have no idea what the ladies go through to maintain their business overhead etc. Threads like this one make me steamed!

[Amelia Fox 9064]

So in other words, most ladies rates are purely bases on services, travel, and expenses. You don't like them them, quickly move along....

[VedaSloan 119179]

Lemme break it down for you:

 

Upscale incall location : $1200-1500/m (Toronto)

Nice lingerie: $240 (how much the last lingerie set I bought cost)

Professional photos: $350-$1000 every 4-6 months

Website design: $200-$1000

Personal grooming (waxes, manicures): 1 wax every three weeks=$65; manicure: $30-60 (every two weeks)

Time spent doing admin: between 10-15 hours a week--this includes updating and interacting on social media, answering emails, updating ads/website etc.

Advertising: A base ad on EROS is $60; Turd charges something like $75 for three weeks.

A burner phone for work: Ugh, I don't even know. MONEY. It costs MONEY.

 

 

That's close to $2000 grand in expenses ON THE LOW END OF THINGS. Or did you think we all rolled out of bed perfectly coiffed, manicured, plucked, waxed with magically free incall spaces waiting for you to call us?

 

On top of which, none of us need to justify our rates to you. Please crawl back under the rock from whence you came.

[jaydanger 376]

Wow! Talk about being chewed up and spit out! The insanity. So, it's been about a week since I posted this link and decided that I'll see a $350/hr SP and decide from there if the money is worth the time. Believe me, this post wasn't intended to offend you ladies who charge $300 + for your services with justification. Clarity and error. Should have been $350. What's done is done. (humor here folks).

 

Of course I understand some who may charge $350 since the individual has a specific talent or had some form of brush with Hollywood or was in porn. Yeah, of course, I get it. One's paying for the notoriety.

 

I remember not so long ago, well etablished courtesan's charging $240, and that was like 3 years ago, now charging $280. I still see her from time to time and we have a connection. I was also seeing an MA who I was paying $180 for and had the most amazing connection with. Both were beautiful and equal in appearance. Well maintained and attractive.

 

Both have expenses as well, I'm sure. Not sure if this will get me blacklisted from some but here goes. So do I. I received a private message from a few saying to pick and choose whom I see. I do but one put it well..."Gold diggers"...sorry, back to expenses.

 

I understand that there are expenses involved. Being charged $1200 for modeling shoot and photos is outrageous. Local photographer here in O town who charges about $500 for a 3 hour session and touches up about a dozen. He's a HUGE name here too. PM me and I'll let ya know who he is. Even set up the shoot for you with him. A friend of mine and no slouch either. Many accolades and awards!

 

Upscale suites are about right, $180 - $200 a night. Why stay in a suite when a room is sufficient enough for $120. Or better yet do like the Jefferson's and "Movin' on up" and get a penthouse suite. Just saying...

 

Advertising, well, yeah, it's advertising. Justification there. My point is I get the expenses. It is the cost of doing business, right?

 

BTW, had the rate been posted on LYLA then I wouldn't have been so sore in posting this thread. Let's get this straight, the "lovely" lady had no website but pro photos. So, it's up to me to automatically determine that you charge $350 for your services because you had pro photos done? Or is it merely a question of "What can I squeeze out of this guy?"

 

Hey, I knew I'd get flak for the post. To question ones rates isn't rude at all, btw. Rude is picking your nose or burping at the dinner table. Then there's the vehicle comparison. Come on. Seriously? One just assumes because you're going to pay more you're going to get better service or a better vehicle? More holes in that analogy than a sieve.

 

I digress. So, one thing's clear. I've upset a few based on a simple observation and experience. That's what this post is for though...still searching for the right answer though.

[Victoria Banks 21899]

Just see someone that fits in your budget ;) ;) ;)

[Ice4fun 78407]

Wow! Talk about being chewed up and spit out! The insanity. So, it's been about a week since I posted this link and decided that I'll see a $350/hr SP and decide from there if the money is worth the time. Believe me, this post wasn't intended to offend you ladies who charge $300 + for your services with justification. Clarity and error. Should have been $350. What's done is done. (humor here folks).

 

Of course I understand some who may charge $350 since the individual has a specific talent or had some form of brush with Hollywood or was in porn. Yeah, of course, I get it. One's paying for the notoriety.

 

I remember not so long ago, well etablished courtesan's charging $240, and that was like 3 years ago, now charging $280. I still see her from time to time and we have a connection. I was also seeing an MA who I was paying $180 for and had the most amazing connection with. Both were beautiful and equal in appearance. Well maintained and attractive.

 

Both have expenses as well, I'm sure. Not sure if this will get me blacklisted from some but here goes. So do I. I received a private message from a few saying to pick and choose whom I see. I do but one put it well..."Gold diggers"...sorry, back to expenses.

 

I understand that there are expenses involved. Being charged $1200 for modeling shoot and photos is outrageous. Local photographer here in O town who charges about $500 for a 3 hour session and touches up about a dozen. He's a HUGE name here too. PM me and I'll let ya know who he is. Even set up the shoot for you with him. A friend of mine and no slouch either. Many accolades and awards!

 

Upscale suites are about right, $180 - $200 a night. Why stay in a suite when a room is sufficient enough for $120. Or better yet do like the Jefferson's and "Movin' on up" and get a penthouse suite. Just saying...

 

Advertising, well, yeah, it's advertising. Justification there. My point is I get the expenses. It is the cost of doing business, right?

 

BTW, had the rate been posted on LYLA then I wouldn't have been so sore in posting this thread. Let's get this straight, the "lovely" lady had no website but pro photos. So, it's up to me to automatically determine that you charge $350 for your services because you had pro photos done? Or is it merely a question of "What can I squeeze out of this guy?"

 

Hey, I knew I'd get flak for the post. To question ones rates isn't rude at all, btw. Rude is picking your nose or burping at the dinner table. Then there's the vehicle comparison. Come on. Seriously? One just assumes because you're going to pay more you're going to get better service or a better vehicle? More holes in that analogy than a sieve.

 

I digress. So, one thing's clear. I've upset a few based on a simple observation and experience. That's what this post is for though...still searching for the right answer though.

 

Your original post clearly indicated that based on your opinion paying more than $240/$260 for a hour with a lady in this industry was not good value for YOUR money ... fine you are entitled to your opinion but let's face it your approach to expressing that opinion clearly took a swipe at ladies who charge more and frankly that undertone is clearly articulated in your "golddigger" comment... no wonder you place such a low value on spending time with these ladies you have such a low opinion of their character.

 

You may not agree with their business approach and you may think that they are not worth the money they are charging but how about at least showing some respect for them as people... they like you and I are going about their lives trying to support themselves and their families.

 

What's the outcome you are looking for from your post??... it appears you have a very strong opinion about what ladies should charge... what their expenses should be... and every other facet of THEIR business. Perhaps you want the job as customer ombudsman for the Sex Industry the guy who will stand up for all us poor little guys who are getting taken advantage of by the big bad ladies in this industry... Let's get real the majority of the ladies in this industry work extremely hard to make a living... you have heard several of the ladies outline their expenses and frankly very few leave this industry rich... sure it pays for school or supports their family or allows them some extras that their regular job does not allow for. The professional ladies in this business have made a choice to take control of their own employment... to decide for themselves how they work and when they work... they offer a very personal and intimate service to us men so of course they should be free to decide what they want to charge you or I or any other guy for that matter does not have to agree with that price... they can make a different choice that reflects their personal situation.

 

Just my Opinion

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

Jay, I just flew down south business class (#humblebrag) and it cost me 4 times the price of coach. The seats were slightly bigger and I was offered a drink (declined) and a so-so omelette. I had the same bumpy ride and got there the same time as coach passengers. Not everybody would do this. It's a luxury. So is paying to see women. I don't set the price with air canada and they are happy to leave seats empty in bus class versus selling it for "coach" pricing. Why do you object to a woman doing similar?

 

I don't want to gang up on you but you sure seem to have a blind spot on this issue. Read Cuchullain's post. The provider of a service gets to set their price. The consumer can decide if it's worth it but it's low class to suggest the provider is not worth the price, especially when it's a luxury. Stick to Casio if you can't manage Patek. Don't bitch about the price of Patek.

 

Oscar Wilde said a cynic is a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. Don't be a cynic.:)

[fortunateone 156618]

On average, the SP's charge anywhere from $200 to $240, which is what I'm willing to spend. MA's anywhere from $160 to $200.

 

I'd like to start this thread off with a question...

 

What I don't get is why certain MA's or SP's could substantiate charging $300 + an hour?

 

.

 

To get to that 'average' of 200-240, it means that there is and will be rates that are under 200 and over 240. It's just math

 

That's really all you need to know about rates and why some sps charge over 300.

 

 

Expenses tend to increase, not decrease. My rent is only up 100 since i first started, but i'm sure others have different experiences. 5 years ago the number one advertising was all free all the time, when that was shut down, sps had to move onto paid sites. In my area we got lucky, replacement sites were busier or as busy and still free. until they were not, and their rates got higher and higher, then charged in US $ and went up with the exchange rate. When i started using BP, it was 1.00 & 2.00, before the big change it had been raised up to 10.00 per ad. now you have paid options which are low, but recently they increased the new lower rates by charging in US$ no more Cdn pricing.

 

all expense increases are absorbed by many sps, meaning their profits are decreasing. but really simply increasing rate by 20 bucks an hour would cover most of these increases, and yet as a favour to clients, many sps do not do that increase that they really need.

[Rounding Third 9568]

This entire thread reminds me of the scene in Airplane when the passengers line up to take turns putting a beating on the hysterical lady passenger. Classic. Of course the movie was released I would think around 1980 so i am showing my age :)

[EmilyRushton 253367]

Wow! Talk about being chewed up and spit out! The insanity. So, it's been about a week since I posted this link and decided that I'll see a $350/hr SP and decide from there if the money is worth the time. Believe me, this post wasn't intended to offend you ladies who charge $300 + for your services with justification. Clarity and error. Should have been $350. What's done is done. (humor here folks).

 

 

I remember not so long ago, well etablished courtesan's charging $240, and that was like 3 years ago, now charging $280. I still see her from time to time and we have a connection. I was also seeing an MA who I was paying $180 for and had the most amazing connection with. Both were beautiful and equal in appearance. Well maintained and attractive.

 

Both have expenses as well, I'm sure. Not sure if this will get me blacklisted from some but here goes. So do I. I received a private message from a few saying to pick and choose whom I see. I do but one put it well..."Gold diggers"...sorry, back to expenses.

 

I understand that there are expenses involved. Being charged $1200 for modeling shoot and photos is outrageous. Local photographer here in O town who charges about $500 for a 3 hour session and touches up about a dozen. He's a HUGE name here too. PM me and I'll let ya know who he is. Even set up the shoot for you with him. A friend of mine and no slouch either. Many accolades and awards!

 

Upscale suites are about right, $180 - $200 a night. Why stay in a suite when a room is sufficient enough for $120. Or better yet do like the Jefferson's and "Movin' on up" and get a penthouse suite. Just saying...

 

Advertising, well, yeah, it's advertising. Justification there. My point is I get the expenses. It is the cost of doing business, right?

 

BTW, had the rate been posted on LYLA then I wouldn't have been so sore in posting this thread. Let's get this straight, the "lovely" lady had no website but pro photos. So, it's up to me to automatically determine that you charge $350 for your services because you had pro photos done? Or is it merely a question of "What can I squeeze out of this guy?"

 

Hey, I knew I'd get flak for the post. To question ones rates isn't rude at all, btw. Rude is picking your nose or burping at the dinner table. Then there's the vehicle comparison. Come on. Seriously? One just assumes because you're going to pay more you're going to get better service or a better vehicle? More holes in that analogy than a sieve.

 

I digress. So, one thing's clear. I've upset a few based on a simple observation and experience. That's what this post is for though...still searching for the right answer though.

As a companion who charges in the price bracket that seems to bother you, I'm going to weigh in on how absurd your thoughts sound.

 

I have charged $350+ an hour for 5 years, I have NOT raised my rates yet real life expenses keep up going up. Airfare is at a high, advertising has gone up and all the little life expenses have increased.

 

I offer an experience, a life escape and genuine connection with those I meet with. I open myself up and put myself in a vulnerable position letting strangers (albeit screened, yet still strangers) into my personal space and allow them to share intimacy with myself. YOU have NO right to tell any woman her donation is two high, whether she is charging $200 or $600 an hour, its not your right to complain or question it. YOU have NO idea what it is like to work a day in my shoes and to be honest I doubt you could handle what any of us do in a week let alone a day.

 

The average NICE suite in Ottawa during the week is $250+ a night and why would one just book a normal room when they are spending a few hours with an individual? I really don't feel like fighting for the only desk chair in my room with the gent I'm spending time with. As well to be a quality upscale companion, one won't be booking at the super 8. The experience, The company and the location all weigh in on this aspect. I'd love to see the reaction of the gents I spent time with when I tell them to come see me at motel 6 :)

 

I have had several professional photos shoots over the years, the average price being $1800 for all but one of them and even then it was over $1000 in the end. Im sorry but in business, when one is selling an elite item such as themselves, you don't settle for a $500 photoshoot. Im not calling you naive, however if a woman has invested in professional photos best to assume she's invested in herself and her donation will most likely reflect that.

 

Its people with the thoughts and ideas such as yours that appal me, you have never been an escort, sex worker, companion or courtesan - you have an opinion and a one sided one at that.

 

Because I charge more per hour, does not make me a "gold digger". Far from it, I am very generous with my time and with ensuring that my guests leave happy I spend hours everyday on emails, most that are just on social levels saying hi or where are you this week - and all this is unpaid - yet I would not change any of it.

 

And yes myself like many others took offence to your first post and your second one - I can't imagine what answer it is that you are seeking?

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

While the OP is entitled to his opinion along with everyone else, life is too short to complain. It's just arguing for limitations. See someone in a price range that a person can afford and have fun. :) As the saying goes,"You can't have champagne on a beer budget." Some people enjoy every sip of that champagne after they pay $300 + for a bottle of Dom.

[mrgreen760 37785]

The number of responses indicates a real sensitivity toward this topic which I find kind of interesting.

 

 

 

Peace

MG

[cometman 35115]

First time back in awhile and my first thought is.........fuck, I'm glad I wasn't drunk and opened this thread. Prices in this biz are all over the place. I have paid 180-300 per hour and have regretted not a one encounter.Would I go higher? Actually, I would go higher before I'd go lower. Unless a lady is just getting into the business and looking to build clientele, there's a chance for a deal on an undiscovered gem, but it's a crap shoot. For the record, my most memorable encounter was my most expensive one...........and I repeated, and will again. Tried and true works for me. Vegas would chew me up and spit me out. Now.......back to the rum and the blizzard in NS.

[Phaedrus 209521]

If you'll all forgive me, I'm going to digress into a meta-post for a moment.

 

Some folks have expressed the opinion that we really shouldn't be having this conversation and rates should never be questioned. I agree that it's inappropriate to question any individual provider's rates, but... I think there's significant value in having a conversation about rates in general. I've seen it in the past, but I don't think it has happened recently. That means there's probably quite a few people who are reading this for the first time and, therefore, benefiting from it.

 

Yes, the rates can look pretty high, especially if you're new to the industry - but as Pete said, if you think they're bad here, take a look at what you'd pay south of the border. What we clients often don't understand immediately is how much time providers spend on things for which they don't get paid directly (which hasn't been talked about much in this thread), and how much money all the behind-the-scenes stuff costs. I'd like to thank the ladies who took the time to give us some idea of that - and Mia in particular.

 

Guys, remember: the person you're spending time with is like a swan. She may look serene and beautiful on the surface... but there's a hell of a lot of paddling going on underneath.

 

Okay, that's enough discussion about the discussion. As you were!

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

If you'll all forgive me, I'm going to digress into a meta-post for a moment.

 

Some folks have expressed the opinion that we really shouldn't be having this conversation and rates should never be questioned. I agree that it's inappropriate to question any individual provider's rates, but... I think there's significant value in having a conversation about rates in general. I've seen it in the past, but I don't think it has happened recently. That means there's probably quite a few people who are reading this for the first time and, therefore, benefiting from it.

 

Yes, the rates can look pretty high, especially if you're new to the industry - but as Pete said, if you think they're bad here, take a look at what you'd pay south of the border. What we clients often don't understand immediately is how much time providers spend on things for which they don't get paid directly (which hasn't been talked about much in this thread), and how much money all the behind-the-scenes stuff costs. I'd like to thank the ladies who took the time to give us some idea of that - and Mia in particular.

 

Guys, remember: the person you're spending time with is like a swan. She may look serene and beautiful on the surface... but there's a hell of a lot of paddling going on underneath.

 

Okay, that's enough discussion about the discussion. As you were!

 

Personally, this thread is no different then the negotiating thread. It was closed for a reason.

 

http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=141558

[damatt 340]

was this a backpage ad, or an ad somewhere else?

 

Additional Comments:

you are so right about the extra things the SP's have to spend on maintaining and creating the beautiful image body and face, that they normally wouldn't spend if they worked any other job. No wonder the beauty industry is a billion dollar industry

[Ashley Ann 75247]

Considering that we cannot have threads about ladies who have ultra low rates and /or undercut....not sure why it is ok to discuss those who choose to market themselves accordingly.

[Ice4fun 78407]

While I have some problems with the way the OP asked his question I think I agree with Phaedrus that some benefit can come out of the dialogue in terms of helping people understand more about what's involved in working in this industry and that there is a lot more to it than just showing up for an hour.

 

Additionally reminding ourselves that regardless of what the rate of compensation is people deserve to be treated with respect for the choices they make for themselves is important.

 

Just my Opinion

[Genevieve Marceau 68000]

I do but one put it well..."Gold diggers"...sorry, back to expenses.

 

 

So what? You think we are in it for love or something? lol