Guest caden.kelevra Report post Posted February 28, 2008 So tonight I had the worst experience of my escorting life. So had a prearranged appointment tonight with a client. He called me a few times to day, we confirm on date and time, I get the address, call a cab and spend $30 just to get there. Once I get there I fear I have made a bad decision. Very low-end apartment building, not saying he couldn't afford it, just seemed sketchy. I go to dial the buzzer number but a girl let me in, the guy had called me again just as I was getting out the cab, so he knew I was there. I get in the elevator and there is a creepy....I mean CREEPY guy that gets in with me. Immediately he starts talking to me. Asking my name, asking for my number, I politely decline, I say that I'm here to meet a friend. He's like "do you want to come to my place baby" I reply "No. Thank you." Now when we got in the elevator he had pressed another floor, but says he'll go up to mine with me, At this point I am pissed off, mainly because I realise that this creeps voice is the same as the guys on the phone. I get out of the elevator, can't find the apartment number he gave me...big surprise.... I call the number that he was calling me from and its a dead end, calling card. So I call a cab to come get me and I go down to the lobby again. The creepy dude is down there, and of course starts talking to me again, now I know for sure that yes this guy is the one who has played me. He asks me where I am going I say "Home." He asks where that is I say "Ottawa." THEN he offers me a ride home, I say "Sorry, but taking rides from strangers is kind of frowned upon." He tries to talk me into it, I say "No dice dude, not interested." I usually am the most polite, courteous sweet heart you'll ever meet, but now I am mad, and feeling like I need to get away from this place asap. He flat out asks me after if I am escort. I don't respond because luckily my cab came right at that moment. So all in all I spent $50 on cabs, and all I got was a dangerous rendezvous. Now gents and fellow ladies don't get me wrong, I like what I do, I like it alot and I'm good at it too. But this happens to us, this is a risk we take. If any ladies want this guys email so they don't get taken for a ride, pm me for it. Well now that I got that out of my system, I'm back in a good mood Have a great night everyone, xoxo Caden Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HotStuffHeidi Report post Posted February 28, 2008 OMG, I THINK MET HIM TOO! Okay, so I met this weirdo in the halls too, and this circumstance sounds ALL too familiar. Whoa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimberly-Shea 28280 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 I'm so sorry caden!! we've all had "creepy" experiences. Its SCARY thats for sure, being alone in a bad situation. I'm glad you got home okay. Kim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivazun 135 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 I get scared too sometimes when I am going for an incall to see an sp. I had times when I got to bad areas where I didn't find it comfortable. Just imagining you women who do outcalls must be much of a big risk as well. Gladly Caden was safe and harmless besides getting harassed by this no-life dude. These types of men can ruin it for us and should be blacklisted if possible. Hope all goes well to all the sp's/mp's ....if only I can catch this sucker and all the rest of em' hehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamgirl 246 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 i would suggest this to all the ladies most of you have internet, before a rendez vous you should check the phone number to make sure it exist , like on 411.ca (even if it<s a cell phone, it will tell you ) also with googlemap you can check the adress to make sure its not a shithole ALSO if you have a paypal account, tell your >Custmer> to buy for 5$ with it, this will ensure you the guy really exist and at least owns a credit card, whenever you leave for an appointment always tell a friend where you are goin and for how long carry some pepper spray or a tazer gun with you, and learn how to use them properly, maybe illegal but in a bad situation you will be happy to have those , they are pretty easy to find This situation was pretty creepy .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxAxxx 21016 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 i suggest not using taser guns, wether its to protect yourself or not, it's not allowed. TAKE MY WORD FOR IT....carry a small blade...rape whistle....not a contriband weapon. Keep in mind, you could always be a registered gun user with the proper permits. This thread explains EXACTLY why i think the laws around canadian prostitution should change. Some of you may disagree with me, but i feel most safe in the comfort of my home. It is my choice to let in the person i see through the peep hole....or not let them in whichever. The law is the way it is currently to "PROTECT" us...hmmm where was caden's protection? anyways i won't ramble on, glad ur safe caden, please pm me any info about this guy - i would greatly appreciate it....in fact, you should post more specific info about him in the dangerous encounters section. and to all the ladies out there: if u are independant and do outcalls only, you are protected under federal law, so nothing in this world should stop you from calling the police when in danger. You cannot be arrested for prostitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest katia Report post Posted February 28, 2008 So tonight I had the worst experience of my escorting life. So had a prearranged appointment tonight with a client. He called me a few times to day, we confirm on date and time, I get the address, call a cab and spend $30 just to get there. Once I get there I fear I have made a bad decision. Very low-end apartment building, not saying he couldn't afford it, just seemed sketchy. I go to dial the buzzer number but a girl let me in, the guy had called me again just as I was getting out the cab, so he knew I was there. I get in the elevator and there is a creepy....I mean CREEPY guy that gets in with me. Immediately he starts talking to me. Asking my name, asking for my number, I politely decline, I say that I'm here to meet a friend. He's like "do you want to come to my place baby" I reply "No. Thank you." Now when we got in the elevator he had pressed another floor, but says he'll go up to mine with me, At this point I am pissed off, mainly because I realise that this creeps voice is the same as the guys on the phone. I get out of the elevator, can't find the apartment number he gave me...big surprise.... I call the number that he was calling me from and its a dead end, calling card. So I call a cab to come get me and I go down to the lobby again. The creepy dude is down there, and of course starts talking to me again, now I know for sure that yes this guy is the one who has played me. He asks me where I am going I say "Home." He asks where that is I say "Ottawa." THEN he offers me a ride home, I say "Sorry, but taking rides from strangers is kind of frowned upon." He tries to talk me into it, I say "No dice dude, not interested." I usually am the most polite, courteous sweet heart you'll ever meet, but now I am mad, and feeling like I need to get away from this place asap. He flat out asks me after if I am escort. I don't respond because luckily my cab came right at that moment. So all in all I spent $50 on cabs, and all I got was a dangerous rendezvous. Now gents and fellow ladies don't get me wrong, I like what I do, I like it alot and I'm good at it too. But this happens to us, this is a risk we take. If any ladies want this guys email so they don't get taken for a ride, pm me for it. Well now that I got that out of my system, I'm back in a good mood Have a great night everyone, xoxo Caden As you don't have access, do you want me to post this undesirable client for you in the providers section? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loneskater 25635 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 i would suggest this to all the ladies most of you have internet, before a rendez vous you should check the phone number to make sure it exist , like on 411.ca (even if it<s a cell phone, it will tell you ) also with googlemap you can check the adress to make sure its not a shithole ALSO if you have a paypal account, tell your >Custmer> to buy for 5$ with it, this will ensure you the guy really exist and at least owns a credit card, whenever you leave for an appointment always tell a friend where you are goin and for how long carry some pepper spray or a tazer gun with you, and learn how to use them properly, maybe illegal but in a bad situation you will be happy to have those , they are pretty easy to find This situation was pretty creepy .... Sorry about this creap and what happened to Caden. I see many SPs that mention in their ads that they do not answer blocked calls. So I know very well that is because they check the number and I have no problems with that. They obviously have to be careful. But bying through Paypal??? If it gets too complicated I will go to someone else and I am sure many clients will and one could see her business go down. If you read through previous posts there are clients worried about having their number checked. I had an agency once call me to tell me they had new SPs. Could thing I am not married. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stiletto Kyss Report post Posted February 28, 2008 Caden: I shudder to think what could have happened to you. Being older and having lived in many major centres across Canada and having dealt with some of the dreggs of society, being out $50 for cab fares should be the least of your worries. I'm not going to go into lecture mode here, but I would not recommend arming yourself with a knife or a prohibited weapon, e.g. Taser/stun gun or whatever. In the hands of an unskilled knife fighter, you can very easily be disarmed. What happened to you is one of the valid reasons many SPs do not visit residences and insist upon outcalls only to reputable hotel registered guests with identification. In this case, it is obvious he had no intention of being a client of any sorts and was likely intent upon robbing you, assaulting you or worse. I wish none of these things upon any SP or upon any woman at all. If I knew you, I'd give you the $50 you were out in return for your assurances you would never put yourself in that position again by going to an unfamiliar client's socalled residence. Please be careful and stay well. s-k Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ottawadave 136 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 Keep in mind, you could always be a registered gun user with the proper permits. Not trying to detract from the serious nature of the thread... I've showed up at some shady places and ran myself... Just a point of clarification Alexxxis, the chances of getting a permit to carry a restricted firearm (i.e. handgun) in Canada are legally possible, but VERY remote. Next to nil basically, especially in urban environments. Getting a permit to carry a concealed restricted firearm, which is what you would want, is even more unlikely. Your other suggestions would be more practical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxAxxx 21016 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 jst goin from all angles here. you also stated it isn't impossible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aeh_watkins 100 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 Stick with your gut feeling in future and LEAVE. Glad you are ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ottawadave 136 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 jst goin from all angles here. you also stated it isn't impossible. Yep, no prob. I wasn't blasting you, just throwing out some info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imwildru 100 Report post Posted February 29, 2008 it seems the creep was getting a kick out of what happened-sick minded individual-and from what heidi said might've done it before, when i go to an sp's place, with unfimiliar territory, i drive around couple of times to check the place out and look, whos coming or going from the building before i commet myself to anything, anyway, enough with my story, i guess this will leave a bitter taste in your mind for a long time, as a man i can tell you really sorry for what happened to you, and hope all male contributors on this board share the same feeling with me on this, and finally, the things dont kills us will make us stronger, wish u well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolette Vaughn 294340 Report post Posted February 29, 2008 Sorry this happened to you Caden. I've been in similar situations when I first started out and got that bad feeling and turned around and left. I know that one can lose a lot of business when they limit outcalls to residences but I have found that it cut back on the weirdos and timewasters. Now I just stick to incalls and outcalls just at local hotels. When you're in your own environment, you have more control of what's going on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest caden.kelevra Report post Posted February 29, 2008 Hey everyone, I just want to say thank you for your support and advice. I really appreciate it. I started this thread mainly to let other sps know about this guy, and to let out a little frustration. I've had way more great experiences then bad ones and I'm not going to let this one ruin it for me. xoxox Caden Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135640 Report post Posted February 29, 2008 Ok... the taser gun suggestion and the small blade suggestion are just really bad idea's!! You can kill someone with a taser (even accidentally it is still murder and you can not claim you were defending yourself with a illegal weapon - it is premeditated if you brought the gun with you!). Even a small blade can be turned against you as well. Pepper spray (unlike mace) is probably your best choice if you feel you need to carry something for defense (and it works well on big dogs too) it is still illegal in most places to use on another human but I would take my chances with pepper spray before using a actual weapon. Your best line of defense is you head!! Screen your calls, tell someone you trust where your going and how long the call is... or hire a driver if your doing outcalls. This guy you are describing will probably get board and escalate his behavior as it sounds like he is a little off balance already. He could be working up the nerve to do something bad to someone. He defiantly sounds unstable so warning everyone is a good thing. I sent you a PM on how to gain access to the SP ONLY area... maybe you can post some more details once you have access. katia has offered to post on your behalf (Very nice of her to offer by the way) so feel free to PM her any details you may have. katia actively helps keep everyone informed and has posted information in the past for other ladies who do not wish to post directly. (Again a very nice thing to do). With guys like this and the laws the way they are you ladies need to stick together and contribute and read the blacklists (bad client lists and warnings) to help protect one another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxAxxx 21016 Report post Posted February 29, 2008 http://www.selfdefenseforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-9569.html the preceeding link is a list of ALL illegal weapons in Canada, for those interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PKjessica (PK is now PKJas 103 Report post Posted February 29, 2008 omigosh... sorry to hear about that caden, i'm glad that nothing happened to you and you did not get hurt. We have a black list of about 311 ppl with adresses and phone numbers that we do not service. Lately...the prank calls...the no shows, the unexisting adresses ETC...have been happening a lot. Just a bunch of creeps and weirdos... A few things we try and encourage here at PK are... -make sure you never accept blocked number... -keep the clients number handy until you have done the call then get rid of it..always get rid of it for privacy reasons. -Any bad experience...keep the number and create a blacklist for yourself. -never go to an outcall alone. Have a friend drive you and wait around...use a driver..anyone. -Always reverse lookup the address before going on an outcall...if it seems fishy or doesn't exist..don't go!! -For an outcall make sure you always get a LANDLINE number..so you can look it up...no cell phones for outcalls. I hope this helps a little...i'm sure some of the other girls have other things to add. Take care Caden!! xoxox Jessxoxox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mika Luv 105 Report post Posted February 29, 2008 I agree with PK Jessica.As a matter of fact it is very important to have a friend or a driver for an outcall.Personally I never take a taxi to go on a call.My safety is too important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoyfulC 132299 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 This is yet another good reason to work through an agency for the first little while you're in a new town -- especially if you're taking residential outcalls or "no questions asked" incalls. You need someone who has some insight into the local environment to protect yourself. Agencies have their uses. ..c.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kubrickfan 12836 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Caden -- Although I'm fairly new here, I have a number of posts on terb (and at least PKJessica knows me -- smile). For what its worth, I dont know why any guy would want to do anything other than make a lady feel as comfortable and safe as humanly possible, especially on a first visit. This is as tough enough of a job without having to put up with stuff like this. I realize this was a "weirdo"-type situation, but I suspect you are pretty creeped out by the whole thing. I have a LOT of respect for you all and the courage you all show given the situations you must find yourselves in. Its nice to have forums like these where the SPs can share this information and help each other out. Take care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites