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...why???

 

I am continually amazed by posters who look for reassurance about ads featuring "deals."

 

You have access to a forum that reviews reputable, well established providers. Why not consider them first?

 

The thought of being complicit in someone's exploitation should horrify you as much as it does me. The very real risks and correlates of rock-bottom pricing should deeply concern you, for your own sake as well as that of the person you see.

 

I wouldn't want to spend time with a provider unless I truly believed she was happy, healthy, and doing exactly as she wished. I would rather never see another provider than be complicit in causing harm.

 

Obviously one cannot always be sure, regardless of what an ad may say. But surely rock-bottom pricing should be a warning!

 

My 2 cents, mixed with a bit of incredulity.

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Thank you for saying this Stillopensdoors. Unfortunately, a lot of people are only interested in paying "the less they can". And they are indeed very happy when they find a "bargain", and also very proud to publish about this to tell others. That is a spiral down. It tells a lot about their view on women, and about their view on escorting as a profession.

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Great post!

 

That is my worst fear, that I would participate in the exploitation of another person who was forced into this lifestyle. To reduce those odds I typically used to see someone over 25 and someone who, in their posting/communication, seems to enjoy this business... most of the time. We all have bad days. I also chose escorts who charge a higher rate for their time just to reassure myself that I was not taking advantage of them.

 

Low ballers, by their nature, seem to not give a shit about the escorts circumstances. No offence but c'mon!

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Everyone has the right to seek out what they can afford however they must bear in mind what this could possible mean. Also, it is entirely unacceptable to request a lwwr price than advertised! As one poster mentioned there are a lot of well reviewed women here on lyla so why the many threads about xyz on abc for only $$$$. It's been said many times bit this ain't the dollar store. This is not a necessity. If you can't afford it date the palm sisters and stop perpetuating the real!!!!problem of women being used!

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Thank you for your response, Mr Green. I should have been more specific in my original post. I wasn't referring to price variation between ads, but to posts inquiring after ads referring to $40 and $50 specials, car service, 24-7 availability, "barely 19" and so forth.

 

There are red flags that should alert people to the possibility of duress, or some extremity that suggests danger for anyone involved.

 

Of course different providers have different business models for a variety of reasons that are entirely at their discretion, and which may appeal to different clients. That's just fine.

 

But there are also ads that should make you concerned. I see regular inquiries after precisely those ads, and it baffles me.

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Thank you, Meaghan. You've articulated my concern far more eloquently than I ever could.

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Everyone has the right to seek out what they can afford however they must bear in mind what this could possible mean. Also' date=' it is entirely unacceptable to request a lwwr price than advertised! As one poster mentioned there are a lot of well reviewed women here on lyla so why the many threads about xyz on abc for only $$$$. It's been said many times bit this ain't the dollar store. This is not a necessity. If you can't afford it date the palm sisters and stop perpetuating the real!!!!problem of women being used![/quote']

 

My sentiments exactly! I have noticed a growing trend that the services ladies offer seem to be viewed as a necessity rather than a want or a need. No one is going to die if they don't see a service provider.

 

This is a luxury service, not going to the store to buy bread or milk and that's how the business has been downgraded such as getting the most for less in the quickest amount of time. The time that we take to offer such a service has often been diminished by those who want rock bargain prices.

 

An SP would have to have a revolving door scenario in effect and risk discretion among other things to make a decent living doing this yet forced to take higher risks because of seeing that many more people. I personally prefer to see gentlemen based on quality not quantity. Money is not worth my health or safety and I reiterate that to all my clients.

 

As Meg said, everyone has their own financial budget and constraints, yet this burden seems to be put upon the provider by those who try to negotiate or ask for "deals". A person's financial situation is none of my business and anyone who tries to put this on me is sent to my blocked folder just like the waste of timers or WOTS for short.

 

Having someone text attempting to pull on my heart strings about being in a "hard place" is not going to have any sympathy from me especially after I met them the first time.They have already read my website that "Rates are FIRM", have paid my rates initially yet STILL have to ask this! One of these things that is covered in my fees is discretion instead of a sketchy situation.

 

That is never going to happen and I don't feel guilty for anyone else's financial situation. These type of people REALLY bother me and also claimed that I charged X amount for a massage which was $40 LESS than what I charge for a half hour massage!! Some people...but then I just say no and move on which is much less stressful.

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Thank you for your response, Mr Green. I should have been more specific in my original post. I wasn't referring to price variation between ads, but to posts inquiring after ads referring to $40 and $50 specials, car service, 24-7 availability, "barely 19" and so forth.

 

There are red flags that should alert people to the possibility of duress, or some extremity that suggests danger for anyone involved.

 

<snip>

 

But there are also ads that should make you concerned. I see regular inquiries after precisely those ads, and it baffles me.

 

perhaps this was one of them today: http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/gatineau-police-send-sex-worker-17-back-to-family

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i think the main thing isn't what is the rate being charged, as much as it is just pay the rate any sp is asking, rather than trying to haggle it down. Yes some sps charge 100/hr, while others have a $1000/2hr minimum, regardless of which one contacted, clients should never think that rate is an opening bid for negotiation.

 

especially since so many of the hagglers have no idea what a negotiation is. It means both sides give something up. In the sp case, she is expected to give up a portion of her fee. In the client case, he expects to get all the time and services included in her requested rate? not how a proper compromise works.

 

If you are a negotiator, remember, you need to compromise the difference between what she offers for that rate, what you wanted to pay, along with what you are going to give up in exchange for the reduced rate.

 

otherwise all you are is cheap

 

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Regardless of who you see, if you enjoy their company, and your budget allows for it, tip them well, and keep going back. You know their rate is below others, and that they could or should be charging more, and you know that you can afford more, so why not? you might be that guy who has them thinking, well maybe i should be charging an extra 20, why not?

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I would like to talk about the MA side of things for myself, my own experience with "bargain" questions.

 

As an MA who works at a SPA, I follow the rate of the Massage Fee which is NOT the fee you pay the MA. Massage fee and Gratuities are different things. Some walk in, I explain about the massage and the rates. I usually include the massage fee with my gratuities fees. Usually they're like, "WHAT THAT MUCH FOR A MASSAGE!!!???" So, I explain the massage fee, or I usually just say, door fee is X amount, in room fee is X amount.

 

Usually they still get all jumpy and run away.

 

However, a lot don't mind the massage fees at all or gratuities and are happy.

 

I have a base rate (lowest which is basic) and go up from there and depends on the duration they are wanting to stay, rate will change. Massage fees rarely change.

 

*Every SPA and MA has his/her own rates, don't haggle them, be respectful and talk to them if you are short.

 

As for SP and my experience: When I was doing a lot of SP work I ran into this. When I first started I never really had or ran into the issue. Later on, it was like a blooming blossom of BS. When I return back into the SP world, my rates are going up for varies reasons. It is frustrating because they put a reason to beat the "well this girl did that for X so why do I need to pay that for X? It's too much."

 

Simple response: I am not like everyone else. I am who I am. I do what I want to do.

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