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[Guest *ha***op]

Hello fellow hobbyists and ladies,

 

I have a question about the "other" site. I am a member and I use the same name for both on purpose as there is a lot of crossover. I stand behind all of my comments on both boards. A while ago I was speaking to an SP (who I won't name) from this site through a CL ad. She asked for my CERB handle which I gave.

 

She also looked me up on TERB which is fine but then said "Frankly, I try to avoid men off terb"..."I gave up on terb long ago. I only use it now to help me determine who I will NOT see."

 

This struck me as really odd as I hadn't heard it before. Even more odd is that she mentions her TERB recommendations in her ad! I guess what I would like to know is how common this particular opinion is. I am not interested in limiting the amount of resources I use in this hobby. I, like many others, believe that a smart hobbyist should use multiple sources when deciding who to see. Would love some input.

[GoinDown 3669]

My guess is that the graphic and often lurid details of encounters commonly posted on terb are offensive and disrespectful to many service providers.

[blue_eyes56 2010]

Some terb members go over the line while many are honest yet respectful - it's possible to do both - and it's easy to tell who's worth listening to. Terb and cerb are both useful, just in different ways.

[Guest Prufrock Cummings]

Hello fellow hobbyists and ladies,

 

I have a question about the "other" site. I am a member and I use the same name for both on purpose as there is a lot of crossover. I stand behind all of my comments on both boards. A while ago I was speaking to an SP (who I won't name) from this site through a CL ad. She asked for my CERB handle which I gave.

 

She also looked me up on TERB which is fine but then said "Frankly, I try to avoid men off terb"..."I gave up on terb long ago. I only use it now to help me determine who I will NOT see."

 

This struck me as really odd as I hadn't heard it before. Even more odd is that she mentions her TERB recommendations in her ad! I guess what I would like to know is how common this particular opinion is. I am not interested in limiting the amount of resources I use in this hobby. I, like many others, believe that a smart hobbyist should use multiple sources when deciding who to see. Would love some input.

 

Perhaps it is isolated, and just the opinion of one individual rather than a collective opinion from those on that site.

[GentMada 2181]

TERB is a review board as opposed to Lyla a recommendation board. However there are outstanding reviews on TERB as well as less glorious ones. If the lady provides a good service then she shouldn't worry about bad reviews. Personally, I would just thank her and move on, she probably saved me a few hundreds ;-)

[Hector17 9215]

I'm on both too, and for the same reasons as you. I'd pay no attention to it as I believe too, that it is an isolated incident.

[ElissaMarie 4310]

I've been told about this site and I've asked opinions on what the difference is, they told me about it being a review board and how negative things are allowed. Negative I'm okay with as it happens, even good providers have flaws or bad days or no chemistry at all with a guest and this may be brought up and I'd be fine with that too. I would not in any circumstance or board be okay with rude, harsh and offensive comments about my appearance or personality so while I understand that as potential customers you want to read about the lady in order to make a decision and that that board allows more details but what I don't understand is how they allow so much disrespect towards LADIES, in my opinion they shouldn't allow that, honesty and bluntness is justified and even appreciated being a jerk (for lack of more appropriate term) shouldn't be and if I were a man reading those reviews I'd definitely second guess what a man who shows no respect has to say, unfortunately many don't see it from this perspective which I believe is why even ladies who DO provide a good experience may be concerned. Also, don't forget although is us providers giving a service it isn't a service as simple as fixing a car or making a pizza, in this industry it takes two to have a successful experience and the provider isn't always the one to blame when things go wrong, many times there's actually no one to blame as I said if there's no chemistry then it isn't anyone's fault.

 

 

TERB is a review board as opposed to Lyla a recommendation board. However there are outstanding reviews on TERB as well as less glorious ones. If the lady provides a good service then she shouldn't worry about bad reviews. Personally, I would just thank her and move on, she probably saved me a few hundreds ;-)

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

The Erb boards are geared towards the hobbyists - they can pretty much say whatever they want. The ladies are not allowed to reply in most cases unless it is specifically about them AND they are a paying member. If not a paying member, they are not allowed to post - even if to clarify something.

 

I've even seen it go as far as some guys telling ladies to go back to sucking someones ... and to shut their mouth. So, it can get pretty heated, and often its the lady who gets the infraction - even if last month she was a paying member, this month she isn't, so she has no say.

 

So, for me, if I'm going to use the sites, its to post ads, and thats about it. They are not a fun place to be around, and I'm not much into the negative feeling on them.

 

As far as whether I would screen someone out simply because they were a member on the site - I'd have to look at their posting history. I see some on the other boards as being quite crude, but over here, can be decent. So, I would made a decision on what they actually posted on the other board. If I even saw one posting where they bashed another lady - whether it is warranted or not - I doubt I would choose to see them. Sorry, but thats my take on it. Its one thing to say "didn't enjoy myself" vs "she's a skank that doesn't deserve to live". Paraphrasing of course, but thats the gist.

[TorontoMelanieJolliet 4458]

TERB is a review board as opposed to Lyla a recommendation board. However there are outstanding reviews on TERB as well as less glorious ones. If the lady provides a good service then she shouldn't worry about bad reviews. Personally, I would just thank her and move on, she probably saved me a few hundreds ;-)

 

I didn't read in original post that she was getting bad reviews. I read that she has had it with ppl who frequent that board. Crude or not, my experience with terb guys is they carry that 'attitude' and hateful opinions outside of board matters in other words in their personal dealings with girls. I have been thinking about advertising there but their absolute hatred of all girls independent is almost scary. Would I be opening a whole new can of worms by putting myself back on their radar? Or can I hope to attract lurkers only? (I don't care about reviews but personal safety issues are my concern when it comes to that board)

 

So making assumptions is never the answer. Everybody has their own reasons. Assumptions have a habit of becoming 'fact' and if you know not of what you speak, you mess it up for the ppl who the assumptions are about

[Grass_Hopper 18263]

I think TERB is not SP friendly at all, unless you are a paying member. Bashing is allowed, aswell as false reviews and drama.

 

Also, MOD here is strict. Sometimes, it can be very frustrating, but he's out there, watching over us. On TERB, if you are not an advertising SP, good luck to have support.

 

The level of politeness and respect is not even comparable. For the three times I've been on there since 2009, it always have been a bad experience.

 

And last, the requests that make me the most uncormfortable (and believe me, there are not much), are all coming from there.

 

 

Most banned members from here are ending on there. Says a lot.

 

 

LYLA (CERB) or its affiliates are really the only ressources I feel cormfortable with...

[Guest st*****ens**ors]

By simple luck I discovered Lyla first and never looked further. Because of this thread, I just wandered over to TERB to have a quick look, and in the first thread I checked, a member was referring to an sp whom he was giving a /favourable/ review as lacking the intelligence to carry on a conversation. Further posters discussed that comment at length, with evident amusement.

 

If providers respond with distaste to clients who think that sort of personal judgement is fine, I don't blame them in the slightest.

[Joe Blower 868]

TERB serves a valuable function in my opinion. there have been times that I cannot find the information that I need or am looking for on CERB, yet find something (positive or negative) on TERB.

 

If an SP or MA is not recommended on CERB, is it because they are not good or has no one bothered to recommend them? I use TERB as a back resource especially with all the BP ads.

 

If someone does not want to see me because I am on TERB, that is their choice; likewise I can choose whom I want to see based on recommendations and reviews on both boards.

[Midnite-Energies 110563]

For me, it's not where you're a member but what kind of member you are. Posting history can say a lot. If someone posts in a crude descriptive way not only is it crass it's potentially dangerous with laws the way they are. Second, the assumption can be made that if they were to see you and choose to review, the same style would be used. I can understand why someone would choose not to put themselves in that position. Some don't care and figure all reviews are good reviews but for those who raise their own bar for what they provide and want to have an experience with some as opposed to being a "living toy" I can see how they would screen out these members.

 

The comment was made about being members on both boards and they're good on one but not the other and that is simply rules and permissions. What one does without rules is generally closer to character as they define character as what you do when no one is looking (or there are no rules in place). To be on LYLA, you have to play by the rules or lose access.

 

I will admit I have found it difficult at times to determine whether I want to see someone because their posts leave me cold and turned off.

[Nesbot 598]

If someone is going to exclude you on the sole basis of being a member of a message board, and not the way in which you represent yourself, than was the meeting going to be all that good anyway?

[ClooneyII 603]

I am one who tries to do my homework, and I must say that my experiences have been outstanding. I study both of these review boards and sometimes Cerb and Merb. I have enormous respect and appreciation for the ladies who provide these services and I think that shows when I'm together with them. I keep my reviews on every board very positive because there's always something-or many things-to celebrate in every date. Yes, I've had some disappointments, but nobody gets this right 100% of the time. That would include SPs who at times must be very surprised and disappointed with a guy that they thought would be really great. I want to say a special thanks to all who provide reviews that enable need to make good choices. And again, I would like to express my appreciation to the beautiful women-- you are amazing and I am thankful!

[GoinDown 3669]

with all due respect, this is pretty self serving. Proclaiming 'I personally do not beat my wife' does not make domestic violence go away. We all, as men - and especially as clients, really ought to step up and take some responsibility for the often shameful tone of posts on these boards. Saying 'it wasn't me' isn't terribly helpful. Let's all own up a little and think hard before we press 'send'.

[Brody Boivin 8445]

TERB is a review board as opposed to Lyla a recommendation board. However there are outstanding reviews on TERB as well as less glorious ones. If the lady provides a good service then she shouldn't worry about bad reviews. Personally, I would just thank her and move on, she probably saved me a few hundreds ;-)

 

Yes, but do keep in mind that some "reviewers" have a slobbyist outlook and have accused women of poor service due to bad chemistry or the women not being a certain way and/or expecting her of being obedient like a dog. Some ladies prefer not to be compared to a piece of meat or a hole in the wall. Reviews are great to keep away the lady cons from hobbyists but in my opinion some use TERB to express negative reviews due to ignorance or having a head full of air.

 

I find lyla is set as a reco board to prevent shaming and negative outlets to show a woman's worth rather than immature setbacks due to her not giving you the "yes sir whatever you want" experience. Women have the right to be people and enjoy their job. If I am unable to enjoy my profession than I wouldn't be here. I see people who comprehend that everyone is an individual.

 

Everyone has their own protocol and people need to respect this and not be so full of themselves.

 

I myself insist that people review on Lyla and directly on my website. I have no issue with people reviewing on TERB but most don't, due to a few distasteful and immature reviews about myself, again no thanks to poor chemistry and ignorant men assuming I must run my protocol THEIR way. I offer amazing experience with service and see no reason for my bad reviews. Explain how that is acceptable. When I hear TERB, I hear "drama".

 

That being said I see all people no matter where they review. If you aren't an asshole it should be no problem to see a TERBIE.

[Guest st*****ens**ors]

I spent a little time on the other board today, trying to get my head around the distinction. It's this:

 

"The rosey board attitude has not place here. Let's be adults and stop kissing asses like we're privileged to be in a lady's company. Christ."

 

Utter, complete, bullshit.

 

Regardless of whether or not an exchange is involved, I firmly believe I AM privileged to be in a lady's company.

 

To express appreciation is not kissing ass. This isn't a fast food drive through, and the attention and kindness of a woman is not a box of timbits.

 

I am deeply grateful to the handful of women who have brightened my world with their time and attention.

 

That isn't kissing ass. It's recognising that a privilege truly is a privilege.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

I personally am no longer a member of terb but I wouldn't exclude someone from because they belonged to a specific board. I no longer read the comments over there because it really is none if my business what people think of me.

 

I'm aware that some of them over there aren't fond of me because I tend to speak my mind and some of them think women should be seen and not heard. Who cares...i will continue to be me. I will continue to be a reputable SP as well. That's all that matters.

 

Some men are members there and use it as a resource. I can respect that. However, if I researched a guy's handle and he was writing something as though it was really crude and graphic, I would definitely think twice about seeing him. The same applies for the big mouth types who will reveal certain details that could be detrimental to SPs and their privacy.

 

I will give potential clients a chance even if I were researching their handles but there would be certain people who post who I would never want to meet based on the tone of their posts if they were mostly negative to begin with. I don't want that energy around me.

[Phaedrus 209521]

I look at TERB on occasion, as the reviews there are sometimes a useful addition to what we have here (or more often, what we don't have here). TERB also allows discussion of services, which is useful if you want something specific and hasn't been allowed here since the laws changed. But having said that, I've never felt that it was an environment I really wanted to get involved in.

[Ryan1967 1092]

with all due respect, this is pretty self serving. Proclaiming 'I personally do not beat my wife' does not make domestic violence go away. We all, as men - and especially as clients, really ought to step up and take some responsibility for the often shameful tone of posts on these boards. Saying 'it wasn't me' isn't terribly helpful. Let's all own up a little and think hard before we press 'send'.

 

While I agree with the last part of your last sentence...not sure I am completely following your logic in this post. Are you suggesting that all members of the male gender take responsibility for the actions of others? That seems a bit broad and sweeping. I strongly condemn domestic violence of any kind, but I don't take responsibility if someone beats their wife, if I am a bystander to violence I will intervene, but to help a victim, not to take responsibility for the actions of others. By your logic should all men be incarcerated because there are some wife beaters amongst us?

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

While I agree with the last part of your last sentence...not sure I am completely following your logic in this post. Are you suggesting that all members of the male gender take responsibility for the actions of others? That seems a bit broad and sweeping. I strongly condemn domestic violence of any kind, but I don't take responsibility if someone beats their wife, if I am a bystander to violence I will intervene, but to help a victim, not to take responsibility for the actions of others. By your logic should all men be incarcerated because there are some wife beaters amongst us?

 

I think the thought process is - if you see someone posting something that is nasty - instead of ignoring it, or worse, agreeing with it - do you say something? Do you call someone out if they have posted something that is potentially violent? Dangerous? Or, do you keep scrolling and do nothing? Again, I`m not referring to the comment `she wasn`t my cup of tea`. Its the comments like she`s a dog, she doesn`t deserve to be alive, she needs a shit kicking.

 

I still remember a post - someone had commented on a really attractive lady who worked in a retail store. She did not work in the industry. Enough information was made available for people to figure out where she worked. Comments were being made "yes, she is really hot, I'd bone her" etc, which meant these guys were actually going to her workplace to check her out. The thread was eventually closed, and identifying information was deleted. However, I was horrified. Her safety was put in jeopardy, and of course, because she is not part of this industry, knew nothing about the increased interest in her.

 

Of course, the ladies on the site could not comment on the thread. It was not about them, so therefore, they did not have a say in the matter. However, it did open my eyes to the ramifications of some that do not seem to understand the dangers they place others in by their inappropriate comments - and lack thereof.

[Ryan1967 1092]

I think the thought process is - if you see someone posting something that is nasty - instead of ignoring it, or worse, agreeing with it - do you say something? Do you call someone out if they have posted something that is potentially violent? Dangerous? Or, do you keep scrolling and do nothing? Again, I`m not referring to the comment `she wasn`t my cup of tea`. Its the comments like she`s a dog, she doesn`t deserve to be alive, she needs a shit kicking.

 

I still remember a post - someone had commented on a really attractive lady who worked in a retail store. She did not work in the industry. Enough information was made available for people to figure out where she worked. Comments were being made "yes, she is really hot, I'd bone her" etc, which meant these guys were actually going to her workplace to check her out. The thread was eventually closed, and identifying information was deleted. However, I was horrified. Her safety was put in jeopardy, and of course, because she is not part of this industry, knew nothing about the increased interest in her.

 

Of course, the ladies on the site could not comment on the thread. It was not about them, so therefore, they did not have a say in the matter. However, it did open my eyes to the ramifications of some that do not seem to understand the dangers they place others in by their inappropriate comments - and lack thereof.

 

Thanks for your thoughtful reply Meaghan, that makes more sense. For what it's worth, terb members will routinely call out other members for inappropriate posts, crude language, and I personally have never experienced anything violent or dangerous...but my experienece is limited to the Ottawa forums and subforums so certainly not a far reaching conclusion across the entire board.

[Genevieve Marceau 68000]

I feel like TERB is the Donald Trump of Boards...

 

Having said that, I do not discriminate gentlemen - the lurker type of users - who use this tool to do their homework.

 

As for those who participate and won't hesitate to step up for the ladies when things get out of proportion, even though they will most likely be shamed with the "white knight" tag: you guys are exceptional and ladies positively notice you <3

 

To the slobbyists: if you are against the White Knight in the story, you are most likely the villain. Who wins the attention of the Princess? ;b

[misha223 788]

I have stood up for one SP in particular on the other board whom need not be named and who visits here from time to time. The contention was that she had refused to provide some of the services that were laid out while texting. The man felt he had been short-changed, left after 15-20 when he had paid for 2 hrs. She had refused to do some services (not all) because she felt her health and safety at risk as the gentleman was apparently not fully hygienic....he claimed otherwise so it's difficult to say who was right or wrong...still i defended her choice because i believe that SP's have every right to bail out of a session and/or not provide some of the services offered if they feel their health or safety is at risk....i have never met her nor do i know the member who was adamant about being wronged. Nevertheless, i stood by her as i felt that the provider has every privilege to do what they feel is right for their well-being. Men in general feel entitled because they pay. Expectations are high and when things don't turn out they way they like, they sometimes voice their displeasure in a way that is not appropriate. So, yeah i was her 'White Knight' of the day but no one took it out on me, i clearly explained why and put no fault on either one. Guess i earned a little brownie point since she promised to contact me when she would be back because she wants to meet her defender...haha...

 

Still one must consider that as a paying customer, you expect a minimum. Chemistry is a word often used to legitimize whether a service is provided on par or not. I think that SP's should expect that they won't get 'chemistry' with every client, maybe even very few clients will have chemistry but it should change nothing in they way the SP provide their services. Should you decide to not live up to your commitments because you feel no 'chemistry' even if the man is a complete gentleman, clean as a whistle and respectful? You are either in it or not, you offer a service and get paid...the game plays both ways and it's not always the men's fault. Many providers are for a lack of a better word, frauds in disguise using B&S, making promises they never deliver on and in some distinct cases, are just out to take the money and run, hence the usefulness of both board...yes TERB is more liberal, some members do get banned at times for crossing the line, still a paying customer should have every right to voice is displeasure when he feels cheated as long as it's within an acceptable limit. It is difficult to do this here as the line is very thin, TERB allows that. Granted that some people go overboard, it is to be expected when the rules are more liberal...while i understand that Lyla is more of a recommendation platform, it should allow for some critical comments.

 

My disclaimer: i take no sides, some clients i'm sure are as horrible as Attila's while others are complete gentlemen, some providers are just BS and others are simply amazing, charming, sweet women who have dreams and aspirations like everyone else. I'll always show my respect to them because i can't begin to imagine how hard it must be at times. If i were a woman, i'm not sure i could do it quite frankly...it takes a lot of guts but i guess you get desensitized after a while

 

Do i make any sense here?....