Who likes it rough?

[luvdancers 135]

I want to ask this carefully, so here goes....

 

I used to have a regular SP who happened to like rough play: dirty talk (very dirty), hair pulling, aggressive slapping of behind and breasts, forced gagging during BJ, etc.

 

She left the biz some years ago and after I started seeing another SP regularly. We have a great ongoing thing and she's been great to me... BUT she won't abide even a hint of the nasty.

 

For a long time I had a couple of girls at Pigale who were into this, so getting some nasty dances once in a while kept me sort of content. DON'T PM me for names, they're gone now.

 

So it has been a while and I need a nasty fix. Any suggestions?

 

I want to be clear, I am not into BDSM and I have never, ever hurt a woman. This is strictly consensual rough play. It is most fun when the woman gets turned on (and when you get the right balance in how you're doing it, it's awesome).

 

A friend says that the girls with lots of tats tend to be into this more. Is this urban legend or what? If that is the case I should have Taylor Monroe on speed-dial :shock:

 

Any suggesitons on who I should call?

[jdstar 1065]

I don't know much about the subject, but "Sweet Madisson" advertises as a "submissive pet". I don't know what that entails, and I'm not suggesting that she offers what you are looking for, but it might be worth sending her a note.

[Andee 220524]

I forced gagging during BJ, etc.

 

 

I loved giving oral - in fact it's one of my favourtie activities but "forced gagging" to me is one of the most despicable things someone could ever ask or expect me to do. I don't know too many people who think choking is fun.

 

I do have an open offer that no-one has ever taken me up on though. If you allow me to stick a dildo the size of your erect penis down your throat and thrust it for five minutes, I'll return the favour!

 

I believe there are ladies who may enjoy this - I can't imagine why, but nonetheless, good luck.

 

Being rough is something I believe is built over over time - trust between an SP and her client. I for example, do not permit "hair pulling" on a first date so to speak.

 

To be looking to play rough would raise red flags for me. I believe it is possible to find, but don't expect too many pleasant replies from the ladies on here.

 

To the OP, you can ask questions but apologizing for being offensive doesn't make your post any less offensive.

[quick25 137]

hey man to answer to the general rough part, I had just started pulling hair, with one of the sp's I see, at our I think like 6th appointment(I asked). As angela said I think you really have to know your sp well. We also do different things like that you mentioned but I would not think that any sp would like gagging. Asking your sp how far they will go is a great way, because if you can't ask them questions like this, I do not even think you should attempt the rough part. Hope my 2 cents helped.

 

 

Being rough is something I believe is built over over time - trust between an SP and her client. I for example, do not permit "hair pulling" on a first date so to speak.

 

To be looking to play rough would raise red flags for me. I believe it is possible to find, but don't expect too many pleasant replies from the ladies on here.

 

To the OP, you can ask questions but apologizing for being offensive doesn't make your post any less offensive.

[PistolPete 61421]

What ever happens behind closed doors between 2 consenting adults, and their type of play in the play room is quite alright. Nothing wrong with asking the question, as far as I'm concerned, there is ladies that do provide those options and I have participated myself.

 

That said, the myth behind women with tattoo's are exactly that a "urban legend".

 

Pulling a little hair, or getting a BJ at the edge of the bed when her head is tilted back,:twisted: if she is into gagging, it is all good fun as long as both parties are into it, oh ya, same with a little bum spanking.:bddog:

[sexy bbw vero 425]

Well, I think that everything has to be decide on the "heat of the moment" between you and the SP ...

 

For my part, I am type of very passionnate girl in bed ... I have THE bum to spank lollll and I like when a man pull my hair in a intensive sex time ... I like when someone talk nasty ... but unfortunately, I'm kind of not good to dirty talk so far loll even if I like it ... I don't find the words ... and as Angela said so well, I do not understand how a girl could like "gagging" ... heurk! loll

 

Wish you to find a girl who will fulfill your fantasy!

 

** Funny the legend about the tattooed girl who likes it rough ... I never thought about it but it's kind of working because if we got lot of tattoos it is because we can handle more pain ... I mean, it is maybe why the legend exist in some minds **

[luvdancers 135]

To the OP, you can ask questions but apologizing for being offensive doesn't make your post any less offensive.

 

What an interesting reaction. I thought this wasn't a review board. But you just, in effect, reviewed my post.

 

The fact that you find a particular practice outside your teapot does not automatically qualify it as offensive.

 

Additional Comments:

and as Angela said so well, I do not understand how a girl could like "gagging" ... heurk! loll

 

** Funny the legend about the tattooed girl who likes it rough ... I never thought about it but it's kind of working because if we got lot of tattoos it is because we can handle more pain ... I mean, it is maybe why the legend exist in some minds **

 

Hey, Vero, thanks for your reply.

 

I feel a bit dumb now for having written the part about women with lots of tats. Guess it's my generation showing. Actually I think some older men equate women with LOTS of tattooes with other lifestyle choices that might include rough sex.

 

Stupid generalization, I guess :lol:

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

This is a very sensitive issue. Mostly as a dancer, but also as an MA, men are very open with me about their sexual fantasies, even if we just talk about them without acting them out. I have discovered that there are many men out there who fantasize about degrading women and roughing them up, while also being 100% respectful towards women. Fantasy and reality are two very separate things, and I don't think we can judge people for their fantasies unless, of course, they act out their fantasies in any way other than between meaningfully consenting adults.

 

I do, however, have to take issue with the comment about tattoos. I don't like to see myths like that perpetuated because it could mean women with tats have guys try and rough them up.

[sexy bbw vero 425]

 

Hey, Vero, thanks for your reply.

 

I feel a bit dumb now for having written the part about women with lots of tats. Guess it's my generation showing. Actually I think some older men equate women with LOTS of tattooes with other lifestyle choices that might include rough sex.

 

Stupid generalization, I guess :lol:

 

:lol: No problem ... still interesting to know what men of your "generation" think about tattooed woman loll :razz: Just kidding! BTW ... wich generation are you talking about?

 

Just wanna add that I think, you will find more girls who's into that kind of kinky encounter in those who offers really "PSE" meet. But still, you should talk about that with the SP before getting into that kind of action ... Of course, it's a fine line between being respectful or not ... all is in the manner ... in the way you do show that roughness ...

 

There's a lot of feminist against the "porn movie" attitude ... they think the girl is not respected ... but it is simply a personal perception... to each their own.

[Chanel Reign 28097]

Fetishes and kink are in the eyes of the beholder. What I do behind closed doors might shock most of you, but some would think it rather pedestrian. What you are asking for is just another fantasy or fetish. Nothing more.

 

Are there women out there that do this...yes. Finding them is tricky and depending on whether you truly want to degrade a woman, your window gets smaller in this community. Refining and redefining what you think you like may get you a better response. In my opinion two people can build a trust as regulars and explore boundaries together.

 

And (gasp) I do have a tat...but then I've never really fit the mainstream mold anyway. :!:

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Luvdancers,

 

Personally I don't have a problem with what you were looking for however, I think these sorts of activities are usually built up over time between a client and an SP. I actually like hair pulling and spanking but I won't do it with someone I have just met. Finding an SP who is very kinky during a first time encounter with a client is another story. As long as it is consentual between 2 adults, I don't see any problem regarding your query.

[roamingguy 300292]

:lol: No problem ... still interesting to know what men of your "generation" think about tattooed woman loll :razz: Just kidding! BTW ... wich generation are you talking about?

 

Well for my generation...no change that, FOR ME, I know when I was a young pup tattoos were something soldiers, sailers and criminals had

BTW my generation, born in 1961. Ladies were not known for having tattoos.

One pleasant eye opener when I started hobbying :grin: was seeing how sexy and attractive tattoos can be on a woman, and it can be fun to look for all of them:D

As for rough, ouch :shock:!!!... I don't wanna be hurt or beat up, supposed to be relaxation and recreation, not a self defence class LOL :lol:

RG:D

[playtoe 201]

I would suggest that putting out feelers to find some into x, y, z activities should be acceptable behavior. That said, I think it's generally accepted that kink activities between consenting adults should be discussed ahead of time and agreed upon.

 

I hold by the thought that one's first encounter with an individual should not include kinky activities (at least the rougher aspects, or more dangerous). This is something that requires trust between the two participants.

 

Regards,

[Goldenboy 237]

Sweet Madison is a sub and subs should not be categorized as liking it rough. Your role is to ensure the sub is treated with respect and you must earn her trust. After all its not all about you its about understanding that to please a sub is to allow her to please you not to be subject her to something she does not want.

Well That's my Rant.

 

Cheers and good luck

[sexy bbw vero 425]

Well for my generation...no change that, FOR ME, I know when I was a young pup tattoos were something soldiers, sailers and criminals had

BTW my generation, born in 1961. Ladies were not known for having tattoos.

One pleasant eye opener when I started hobbying :grin: was seeing how sexy and attractive tattoos can be on a woman, and it can be fun to look for all of them:D

As for rough, ouch :shock:!!!... I don't wanna be hurt or beat up, supposed to be relaxation and recreation, not a self defence class LOL :lol:

RG:D

 

That's interesting ...

I'm so glad to be born in the "Y" generation ... I mean, people's mind have made a big evolution in a short time ... it's great! :-P

[ukdiamond 640]

luvdancer,

 

i have not yet met an SP that I developed this kind of experience with. good luck though, as I'm sure its out there to be found.

 

my personal experience with 'adventurous' stuff like that suggests that you might like to 'push the envelope' ever so slightly with your SP and then gauge her immediate response... read her reaction and then respond accordingly... if she's not sending really clear messages that say "GREEN LIGHT" then i would completely abandon that idea with that lady for that session... this kind of thing is best developed over time as trust is established... saftey first, eh ?

 

or you could just ask the SP in advance of your session but, I doubt that you'll easily find a lady that will simply declare "yes - i luv it rough" with a new client / total stranger... I suspect most SP's with an eye on their personal safety will tread fairly carefully down that road.

 

and... i didn't find your question offensive - you were pretty clear in your message... the rough play was with a regular SP (i.e., you both enjoyed it several times), it was consensual, and you have never hurt a woman... so, what goes on behind closed doors between consenting adults, and so on and so on...

 

my 2 cents...

[sonoma 431]

Luvdancer I find your question/comments very legit and I think it has it s place on a board like cerb.

 

I personaly think what you are looking for is kind of hard to find. As other has stated it takes time and trust to build up a relationship where rough play , submission etc is part of.

 

I enjoy/practice that lifestyle, it has always been part of me and will always be, that's the what I am.

 

But I can also tell you that all of the wonderfull time I've spent withe the great women from cerb, were vanilla session and most of them I really enjoyed and I am sure the majority of women I met on here never had an idea I enjoy/practice that lifestyle, well until today ;).

 

There are women on here that have an interest/curousity for such lifestyle and practice but in most cases I find that the ine with real interest dont advertise it for different reason the main one probably beeing security and trust.

 

I know that I would never ask on a first meeting if my companion likes to gag, get there breast or bum slap or hair pulled, I sometime in my email exchange with an sp will make some remarks to see if there might interest, and if there are on our first couple meetings I like to read her then talk about what here interest/limits are.

 

It takes a lot of trust for someone to allowe anoither person to slap her pull her haur and give herself to some one else in such a way, but it can be amazing when both partner enjoys it and respect the bondaries and limits of each other

 

I think the main word to remember is respect, respect yourself and most of all respect your play partner as a play partner told me one day a strict, firm, respectul slap on my bum feels a thousand time better than a small one given with no respect ;)

 

Sonoma

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[luvdancers 135]

I very much appreciate the common-sense and positive responses, and the PMs I received in the same vein.

 

The one thing I could have made a little more clear is that I was looking for an encounter INVOLVING those activities, but not only consisting of them.

 

Nevertheless, I think if you take offense to what I wrote, it says more about you than me.

 

Additional Comments:

Well for my generation...no change that, FOR ME, I know when I was a young pup tattoos were something soldiers, sailers and criminals had

BTW my generation, born in 1961. Ladies were not known for having tattoos.

 

What he said. I was born in 1959.

 

I was not speaking of ladies with one or a few tats. I meant women with large expanses of "body art".

 

Again, it was sort of an aside in the post and was obviously on the onramp to the Dolt Parkway :roll:

[fortunateone 156618]

One comment, which I won't quote, but really needed to be addressed was someone said try it and see how she responds, well, that is a great way to get yourself kicked right out (or kicked lol). Never ever just try something with an sp -- always always ask first, then if or when you get an ok, try it gently until she says no or go. But don't just do it (and this goes for anything, especially something unusual (like anal play, etc). Don't assume you "know" she'll like it if she just tries it -- if she doesn't already say she does something, you are just about the last person she is going to just "try" it with if you didn't ask but forge ahead).

 

For the OP, I think first and foremost do not expect an sp who does not already offer a PSE experience to be willing or ready to try any of the things you describe. If she wanted to do it, it would be on her menu. Don't think having a dozen or so appts with her is going to change the menu. For the "forced" bj thingy, look for an sp who can and offers deep throat bjs. They are about the only ones who might be comfortable acting out a gagging scenario. Other than that, there are always a few sps who advertise with more extreme services, or offer up PSE. PRimarily what you seek is more likely to be within the expectations or menu of a PSE provider.

 

But really, as mentioned, don't think that a few tattoos are indicative of an extreme session lol.

[Guest S****tha Ott*wa]

I didnt see any harm in that.

 

 

A fantasy or fetish sometimes can happen as a first time meet. sometimes they only want to experience it the one time. There is always that discussion.. you can spend time planning what kind of fetish you want through email or face to face- even have a first time meeting then another day to have the appointment.

I very much enjoy oral and rough oral.. cant really explain why but I do. Gagging,. lol yup.. I enjoy it. I can hold my breath pretty good too. lol

 

I have been told it is hard to find. TOo bad they dont know what they are missing..:twisted:

[MightyMouse 839]

Luvdancers,

 

Personally I don't have a problem with what you were looking for however, I think these sorts of activities are usually built up over time between a client and an SP. I actually like hair pulling and spanking but I won't do it with someone I have just met. Finding an SP who is very kinky during a first time encounter with a client is another story. As long as it is consentual between 2 adults, I don't see any problem regarding your query.

 

I like the way you think Nicolette! I've been quietly searching for an SP who doesn't mind having her hair pulled gently. I'm just too shy to ask :oops:.

There's something very carnal about it that I find very arousing!! :twisted:

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

Mmmm done in the heat of passion with just the right amount of pull.....hair pulling :)

[PistolPete 61421]

Mmmm done in the heat of passion with just the right amount of pull.....hair pulling :)

 

There is always a "heat of passion" with you Meg...and the right amount of pull:twisted:

[markian 106]

I think the OP's original question was reasonable (well OK, the bit about the tats was a little off, but he did admit that later!).

 

For me, it is reasonable to ask something, if you do it respectfully, and you accept the answer you get.

[CaptJaG 299]

Cool thread.

 

Anyways, I've had a gf that was wayyyy into all of that. Pretty much everything you described and more. But even then all of it was discussed way before hand and it was something that had to be built up to over time as its something that involves far more trust than your typical sex acts.

 

As for with a sp, granted I have little experience, but I would definetely find someone you can talk to about it first. Especially if you find someone who tends to be submissive, because the sub is one the one in control of the situation. They decide whats cool and whats not.