Definition of ideal client?

[Tempted Monk 5057]

It is a question to Ladies (and maybe to Gentlemen as well).

What is your definition of ideal client?

 

There are several threads here with the discussions how to be a good client, what to do or not to do for this. And most of discussed qualities (like being on time, being polite, respectful etc...) are obvious qualities of normal business client who is interested in the business deal. But escorting is very personalized area, being polite and respectful is not enough for being attractive and expected to return. I ask you to look from this "personalized" point of view.

 

I asked this question one girl several years ago. Her answer was: "It is easy. The ideal client is the guy with whom I would get intimate in the real life, outside the business".

Do you agree with such definition?

[Alie 1050]

My best would be like my first: he was on a business trip and staying at a nice hotel. He was courteous during our texting, did not haggle, and had a pleasant sense of humor. Before my visit he went for a swim and hot tub, so when I arrived he was clean and relaxed. He gave me my donation right away, we had a nice chat and took our time. He acted like we were pals and he was enthusiastic, appreciative, very respectful and conscientious of my well being. And he was... skilled :)

[casey 2936]

Being very new and inexperience to this hobby, I possess a very strong will to become an ideal client. I am not sure why, primarily to ensure a good experience and secondarily the need to build good reputation etc. I would not worry much about the most crucial part to be an ideal client, as I have a personal habit to appear clean and presentable. I was also born with a trait of being gentle and caring.

 

I have not done many sessions to be called an expert, but I would conjecture that the small but the trickiest part to be an ideal client would be to reach a harmonious state, whether or not you and your partner can telepathize each other mind and to reach a balance syncing between your generosity and in receiving an exceptional service from an SP/MA. For example, I love to pamper someone as much as I want to be treated the same way. I refuse to receive certain *** acts but also hoping to get something extra like more intimate caressing, touching, kissing on me legitimately and sweet talking. If this doesn't happen, I feel that I am missing something. So far, the MAs whom I met satisfy most of these criteria hence I usually left them with a small token and wrote them a good reco afterwards.

 

However, to be an ideal client, I also carry too much concern and always confused myself whether or not they work too much on me. Sometimes, I would stop them in the middle of massage and invited them to cuddle with me. The downside of this, I am not sure if some of the ladies I met would feel suspicious and pressurized! Is he too good to be true or is he expecting me to return him a "big favour" maybe not now but in the future? I think sometimes I was being trapped in a certain situation and I wished I would not have done that if I were given a fresh start of the session. So far I have not encountered this, but this could also potentially put me as a client who are easy to be taken advantage of.

 

So based on my current experience, attempting to become an ideal client is good but also could bring harm to the client-provider relationship! In the end of the day, just remind yourself that both feeling of love and hate lie on the same boundary. To reiterate my points above, I guess it boils down to a question whether or not an ideal compatibility (loving each other in many special ways) and a mutual understanding (in giving and receiving) exist between SP/MA and client. It works both ways...

[Guest Miss Jane TG]

Ideal client: non-existing creature. Akin to ideal gas, present in theory but never in reality!

[casey 2936]

As a satirical part (could be true), an ideal clientèle should be able first to perform the following:

 

(1) to give a first greeting look to their MAs/SPs (like "John Travolta" did when reuniting with his wife)

(2) must have a unique hand gesture brushing against their SPs/MAs' face everytime he meets and says goodbye to them (like the one "John Travolta" did to his daughter, and her daughter to Adam)

 

Please watch the following movie clip till the end:

Taken from: face/off last scene

[CheekyCutie 410]

Duh!

 

Ideal Client = one whom pays and instantly leaves, or is never seen at all. (ie: a str8-up donation)

 

Pure profit for little to no work.

 

...and to say one also likes getting personal enjoyment out of the company of another during work then still no problem. Go get 'company' anywhere you like, as such a thing does not require a client - it's available for free all around!

 

So yeah, like any business - mo'money for no'work = ideal, oui? ;-)

 

Now, if you want to discuss 'ideal satisfaction when performing work', well, that's a different thing altogether :-PSave</span>

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

An ideal client is similar to a nice dream...a nice peaceful sleep being equivalent to having a good flow with a client where conversations or intimacy is not awkward, demeaning or troublesome in any way. Just like you wouldn't want to wake up out of a nightmare in a panic or upset. Having a nice dream, you almost don't want to wake up but know at some point it will end. Being awake, you will long to have that same dream again at some point.

 

If they actually put me in a great mood during and after they leave, they are aces in my books. That says it all. If I find I have to mentally psyche myself up to see them because of their attitude towards me over time, I stop seeing them. Some SP -client relationships can eventually run their course. If I have a few less clients and instead have great quality clients, it leaves me in the mental head space to attract more great clients if I'm feeling great.

 

I quickly get rid of the presumptuous, condescending fools who think they know who you are after a few visits and because they are paying you, they can give you unsolicited advice, make backhanded insults or treat you like a toy. I was told not too long ago that SPs should be spending more time with their families because we don't do much other than work. Ha! You are the weakest link...goodbye!

[fortunateone 156618]

I asked this question one girl several years ago. Her answer was: "It is easy. The ideal client is the guy with whom I would get intimate in the real life, outside the business".

Do you agree with such definition?

 

 

 

I don't agree with that at all.

 

I don't use my work as a way to get dates or new BFs in other words, so i'd never be considering it as a way to look for someone like that. In fact, i'd say that idea is a fairly unusual one. I sometimes think that guys have a different perspective on this that sps do, because we know that it is work, and while everyone obviously (or almost everyone) can have fun at work, the planning, scheduling, cost, and time it takes to be available to meet any client is intensive.

 

From the time we create the ad, to the time we close the door behind them, everything is set up in a way to find that ideal client, or at least, a good match for us.

 

So an ideal client is one who participated in the process. He actually reads the ads, and then selects a few that he thinks are offering (most of) what he's looking for at times he is available at a price he can afford without worry. he then contacts us in the way we've requested we be contacted in the ad. this tells us that he read the ad and is paying attention. because we know he can pay attention, it makes him a safer person to meet for the first time. We have a good expectation that he can not only follow directions to get here in a reasonable time, but can follow the boundaries and services that are being offered.

 

He won't:

- ask for a discount because he feels entitled or deserving or because he failed to bring the correct amount (goes back to 'listens well)

- show up unreasonably early, expecting us to be ready. or show up unreasonably late without calling ahead to say he's running late.

- ask for services that have already been fully explained are not available.

- pry into our personal lives.

- expect 'hang out' time. or think that finishing on time, within the paid for duration, is 'rushing' or clock watching. no one should expect free time, no sp should feel guilted into providing it.

- forget that he is the client, and we are in the provider business, which means that we are expecting to provide the services he needs for a successful completion. We are unlikely to orgasm on command, so being disappointed in that not happening during the session, or being overly concerned or focused on that to the detriment of the preferred final outcome, can be a lot of pressure on the sp. an ideal client can relax and enjoy what happens, and be less worried about what doesn't happen

 

 

 

An ideal client repeats. Every time a client repeats is another appointment where we assume this is someone who doesn't have to be screened, doesn't come with worries about boundary pushing or fee haggling. An ideal client keeps his mouth shut about anything that the sp doesn't make public herself. An ideal client doesn't cross the line into being besties with the sp, taking her here and there, paying for this and that, and then getting his feelings hurt because she still thinks of him as a client, not a bestie, so he then starts an online campaign of harassment, trash and bash, and outing her private personal information, name, address, and throws in the same of other people she knows that he met along the way.

[Tempted Monk 5057]

Ideal client definition can be different of course. It depends on the context and the point of view.

One of the interesting one I heard: "Ideal client is the guy who comes, puts envelope with money on table, and immediately leaves. And repeats this every week". Lol.

If you think it is just a joke - you are wrong :-). Financial domination is one of the forms of BDSM, and such a client is called "cash slave" there. Here is just an example of such a practice: http://www.kalaudiakink.com/findom.html

 

And about other definitions:

I asked this question one girl several years ago. Her answer was: "It is easy. The ideal client is the guy with whom I would get intimate in the real life, outside the business".

Do you agree with such definition?

I don't agree with that at all.

....

So an ideal client is one who participated in the process. He actually reads the ads, and then selects a few that he thinks are offering (most of) what he's looking for at times he is available at a price he can afford without worry. he then contacts us in the way we've requested we be contacted in the ad. this tells us that he read the ad and is paying attention. because we know he can pay attention, it makes him a safer person to meet for the first time. We have a good expectation that he can not only follow directions to get here in a reasonable time, but can follow the boundaries and services that are being offered.

 

He won't:

- ask for a discount because he feels entitled or deserving or because he failed to bring the correct amount (goes back to 'listens well)

- show up unreasonably early, expecting us to be ready. or show up unreasonably late without calling ahead to say he's running late.

- ask for services that have already been fully explained are not available.

- pry into our personal lives.

- expect 'hang out' time. or think that finishing on time, within the paid for duration, is 'rushing' or clock watching. no one should expect free time, no sp should feel guilted into providing it.

- forget that he is the client, and we are in the provider business, which means that we are expecting to provide the services he needs for a successful completion. We are unlikely to orgasm on command, so being disappointed in that not happening during the session, or being overly concerned or focused on that to the detriment of the preferred final outcome, can be a lot of pressure on the sp. an ideal client can relax and enjoy what happens, and be less worried about what doesn't happen

.....

 

Fortunateone gave the excellent - clear and precise - definition of a good client. But what I asked about and what that girl meant is something above and extra, "icing on the top" of that good client "cake".

Let's assume two things first:

1. All clients we are talking about are good clients according to the definition above.

2. We are talking about professional client - provider sessions only and NOT about any sort of "romantic" relationships or dating client outside the business - nothing about expectations like this.

 

I will give let's say 3 "use cases" with the brief definition of two clients in the each. And any Lady can choose which guy she would like to have as her client (or regular client).

CASE 1.

Client #1 - 30+ tall, handsome, athletic guy. Client #2 - 60+ guy, not very attractive physically.

CASE 2.

Client #1 - Happy guy with easygoing personality who can easily keep the conversation going, has great sense of humor, makes you laugh. Client #2 - Shy guy, who is hard to establish contact with and who cannot support the conversation.

CASE 3.

Client #1 - The guy attractive for you in any way, the TYPE you could date IF you meet him in real life, outside business. Client #2 - The guy who is not attractive for you at all, the TYPE you would never spend time together IF you meet him in real life outside business.

 

Remember? - all these guys are good clients by above definition. And if anyone says that she would prefer to see (professionally) the Client #2 - I won't believe her, sorry, it is pretty obvious.

I guess, there is some sort of image of ideal or preferred type of good client who sp would like to see (professionally). Of course, it is personal and very different but I think that girl I asked gave pretty good general definition: "The TYPE of guy with whom you would enjoy time together IF YOU MEET HIM IN REAL LIFE, no business involved".

[casey 2936]

There might be someone who can fit into the definition of an ideal client. I am not sure if this has ever happened to any lucky ladies out there. He is definitely tall, dark, muscular and handsome, probably young or most in his late-thirties, conversationalist, an expert in everything about woman and definitely very good in bed! He can get all the random pretty women he wants but very few could actually please him and he avoids commitments. This particular person gets very bored seeing mostly mature ladies and less attractive ones. Once a while he wishes to have fun with our ladies since they are mostly attractive, gorgeous and ultimately know how to please. He is a MALE ESCORT disguising himself as an ordinary client!

[fortunateone 156618]

I will give let's say 3 "use cases" with the brief definition of two clients in the each. And any Lady can choose which guy she would like to have as her client (or regular client).

CASE 1.

Client #1 - 30+ tall, handsome, athletic guy. Client #2 - 60+ guy, not very attractive physically.

CASE 2.

Client #1 - Happy guy with easygoing personality who can easily keep the conversation going, has great sense of humor, makes you laugh. Client #2 - Shy guy, who is hard to establish contact with and who cannot support the conversation.

CASE 3.

Client #1 - The guy attractive for you in any way, the TYPE you could date IF you meet him in real life, outside business. Client #2 - The guy who is not attractive for you at all, the TYPE you would never spend time together IF you meet him in real life outside business.

 

Remember? - all these guys are good clients by above definition. .

 

 

 

 

Remember the bolded part?

 

It means that all of those clients are good clients.

 

end of story.

 

you miss the point if you think that sps cannot care for or appreciate anyone other than a happy young goodlooking guy. or that they have no interest in providing services that they know will make a much bigger impact on the lives of all those client#2s than they will for all those client #1s.

 

YOu cannot imagine the sincere satisfaction or good feelings that come when you have someone who is painfully shy react to the care and attention provided in our encounters. Or the gratitude of a much older man who has been neglected for decades.

 

versus a young guy who is 'dateable", there is no contest. and it is yet another reminder that we don't advertise for dateables, but for clients, and nothing makes a work day end well than knowing you've made a difference in someone else's life.

 

 

i had a client come to me for the first time, kind of seemed like client #2 in case number 2. but at the door, on the way out, gives me a big smile and asks can he come back to see me again.

 

turns out the guy is hard of hearing, so he actually enjoying himself but not communicating since he can't really hear well enough to carry on a conversations. repeated (ideal client style) many times over several years.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

I think there is a misunderstanding where guys in this hobby think we want to date them and only the good looking ones such as the client #1 would be considered suitable as the ideal man in real life. Sure they were good looking but a few in that category turned out to be full of themselves and trying to score a f**k buddy. If I want that, it won't be with a client.

 

Sometimes I feel as though we can't win either because some men out there have low self esteem and when trying to give them a compliment, I get the "Harhahrhar I bet you say that to all the guys" which I find to be very insulting and clearly makes the SP feel as though she is a bullshitter. Those are the onesie have found in my experience who are more likely to assume that we will only enjoy our job with the likes of client #1 and they have a really skewed outlook of who we spend time with as an SP. Sorry guys but you truly have no idea.

 

Some of the best times I've had weren't with client #1 and there are also nice guys who happen to fall into the category of client #1 but I wouldn't call them an ideal guy I'd date in real life. One can't pin down a "type" because there are s many different combinations when it comes to men.

 

I have so many great special relationships with regular clients and each one of them are nice in their own way. And I repeat, they are not client #1 I say this because most assume we want to be with client #1. A lot of women are not as shallow as you think. Well at least not me anyways. I tend to steer towards men in their early to mid 50's as someone I would consider dating.

 

This leads me to believe that a lot of men I've personally noticed think we're just in it for the money period and if we get young hot men as clients who are well hung then we REALLY enjoy it and that we just put us with those are older or not in shape etc strictly for the money. Sigh.....

 

Sure there are men out there who aren't Adonises but does that mean they're not worth spending time with whether as clients or personally? Does it not mean that they have other desirable qualities that can attribute to a great encounter? Does vanity now equal self worth? No! I'm in no way skinny Barbie myself physically speaking but I do have great clients who do find me very attractive and there is a connection there. They like me for me. They can see beyond someone's physique because it's not the be all or end all. The same applies to clients.

 

I think this thread should be renamed to "Who is Your Dream Guy in Your Personal Life". I don't think you would get the answer to that. Client #1 does not exist in the way one would assume.

[Daisy Mae 2693]

I think the 'ideal' client, at least for ME, would be similar to the ideals of a sugar daddy relationship.

 

I'm an old romantic at heart, I suppose, and I love sweet and intimate gestures... like flowers, well thought out gifts, even poetry. I really enjoy dates where it feels like two old lovers reconnecting, as I find that's half the fun of this- the fact that I get to have such deep relationships, on multiple levels, with varying people. I find it all so interesting, like I'm getting snippets of stories from all my clients... and so the ones that cater to my preferences i.e; clients looking for an experience and not a menu, are ideal.

 

So yes, my ideal client would be something akin to a "secret lover", who was affectionate and understanding (and allowed me to be the same!), rarely booked last minute ( ;) ), was courteous in our conversations, loved to plan trips/thoughtful dates/give considerate gifts... etc.

 

But, this would just be my ideal. I'm sure the opposite could easily be true for someone else- so to speak, a man who wastes no time over frivolties, gets his menu, is courteous but he pays and goes. Wham, bam, thank you ma'am.

 

I suppose it all depends.

 

:)