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[mod 135640]

Yup, loose the freeloaders... I would be ok with that. This comment makes me wish we had paid advertising accounts right now. Why should the new owners allow free advertising? What would be the benefit to them. You might as well leave now cause i am sure its coming. Ec wont be supporting the site any longer and someones got to pay the bills and make it worth wild to run a site like this. Lol to think anything different is delusional.

 

Thats kind of funny you say that, soo many people advertise here everyday. You yourself have placed many ads on here for free and its not just the ads, you make connections, you use the sponly area, etc. you should help support the site! you have 1400 posts here (thats a lot of time invested in this community... Your community) the guys are not going to pay for the site to continue but they are going to pay to see you ... It comes full circle... Its the way it is suppose to work. Freeloaders break the circle. All those ads and years here and you dont make any money off this site? Crazy. If you cant make a few dates a week off this site now your doing something wrong and no amount of advertising dollars can help you. Paying the 20.00+ a day on bp may net you a higher call volume (lots of crap calls too) but most ladies pay over 400.00 a month to bp (more if advertising in toronto and vancouver from what i am told). Hell the agencies in ottawa pay to advertise here no problem, right now they are whats keeping this site afoat.

 

I bet most ladies would take a few good calls a week for the price of a coffee a day then deal with BP TIREKICKERS AND BULLSHIT AND OUTRAGEOUS COSTS. Not everyone but enough would... And plenty of people pay terb/perb/merb each month for advertising supporting them with all the negative comments allowed so honestly i am interested to see what will become of this site and community. I hope it continues and grows and i sure wish i could speak my mind sometimes.

 

I hope they offer a fair and affordable rate to advertise here.... But i will have no say in it and well everones has had a fair chance to buy the site and i was really hoping someone in the community would step up but its out of my hands once the deal goes through.

Ladies keep coming back and posting ads daily. No one would bother to do that if they did not make any money from it. Some people feel advertising should be free for them (and might leave) but many people i think would support the site and pay for ads.

 

It costs money to run a site like this (a lot of money) and a lot of time and no one works for free! if the community does not support it financially once it changes hands then the site would need to change (porn ads, pay per clicks, bait and switch advertisers like bp, etc... They would run it like a company not a charity!

 

 

No company is going to run it and not have it be profitable. Why bother. Ec used it as a traffic tool and did not care if it made a profit but these days that makes no difference.

 

 

A new company taking it over and dropping big dollars to buy it will hopefully have some money and expertise in driving the traffic up. Traffic is money in the online world. If the ladies do not support it as a recommendation board then the traffic revenue has to come somewhere else and that probably means negative reviews and focus on the guys and not su much caring about the ladies (we always put the ladies first and the community as a whole first).

 

 

And as for competition... Nothing wrong with that lots of traffic in this world to be number two. Yahoo and bing prove that every day.... Plus the poll proves one thing, the majority of the site does not really exist as most people want something others do not want and you cant please everyone.

[GoinDown 3669]

In any business if you can't generate sufficient revenue then you need to trim operating costs. The General Discussion Area and Fun Threads sections account for over 250,000 posts .. the overwhelming majority of total posts on the Lyla website. This would likely be on the chopping block under new ownership.

[Kathryn Bardot 99339]

Mod, I have paid for advertising in the past. I have also offered a potential solution for your troubles with EC -- but, if you continue to charge a certain amount for a site that offers limited return, then I'm sorry, but I won't be paying for advertising. I'm not sure why you are so angry; you asked for opinions, and I gave you mine. Perhaps it was not the opinion you were looking for, but that is honestly how I see the site now. A few years back, I would have happily paid for advertising here. But the truth is that the same client base is not here currently as it was several years ago, and so the return is not the same.

Per you, EC is not making money. I suggested that you offer a discount, whether that be on the the monthly cost, or offer a discounted multi-month bundle. If you temporarily lower costs, you will get more advertisers, driving up your monthly revenue. If you have more advertisers, you will see more clients using the site. More clients = more returns for advertisers = advertisers willing to pay the current advertising fees.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

With other boards there is advertising but there the US v.s Them mentality where SPs are to be only seen and not heard.

 

I advertise my escorting services here but do not on BP because of the b.s. I will only advertise massage there since I don't have to deal with people asking for unsafe services and I like doing massage.

 

I have met very nice clients from here for escorting and don't mind paying for advertising as long as there is traffic brought back to the board. The censorship that is in place right now is one of the reasons why a few clients have told me they left.

 

If recommendations weren't censored, the new owners may see an increased amount of membership. There has to be an incentive both both clients and SPs to be here. I like the fact that I don't deal with tire kickers here while on BP you have to weed through calls and texts to find a decent client. I would pay for advertising to not have to deal with things I've had to deal with on BP (Wots, pimps making fake appts etc). However there had to be a reason for men to come to this board.

 

They want specific details when looking at recommendations. I've had many men also tell me they are getting fed up with BP as there are many fake pictures and scams on there with people who aren't established. Notice they always come here to check to see if someone is legit?

 

Without sites like this to double check, a lot of people would be taking risks when visiting new ladies so there is a reason to keep a site like this going. If there is good numbers in membership here, why not charge for advertising? If an SP can get nice clients here instead of dealing with b.s , I'm sure they would consider paying in addition to BP but the men need to be here to make it worthwhile.

 

As someone else mentioned, each site has its own unique brand. Lyla may be known as "the rose colored glasses board" for its positive recommendations only but it also hasn't stopped members of other sites coming here either. Many use both but censorship is a big issue whereas other boards have less rules where censorship is concerned. I don't fully believe that the laws themselves have stopped men from hobbying. The more they have to make decisions on whether or not to see someone is key. This is why many have left.

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

Forgive me for being a lady of less words. I speak in a manner which is I say what I mean and mean what I say.

 

So with my nomination to 2 ladies here, I will say it has been almost a meme for us " if we counted on lyla(cerb) we would starve!" this is a sad truth for us. This site has been merley used as varification and mostly WOTS who ask again and again about ladies who are here or( NOT EVEN HERE) with a true rep and took much effort into proving our trust.

 

BP ads are extreamly expensive but at least we get our appts:( I too claimed about 20g in advertiseing ads for cerb on banners and nothing came of it. I also stopped advertising and posting for almost a full year to see if anything woyld change in my business flow....NOPE did not hurt nor help:(

 

We are at a time in this industry that much change has come into focus. It is sad and scary. We have seen cities like Ottawa and now has grown to east...whereas we are forced into a situation that we feel obligated to be like "trained seals".

 

I love our home site, but yet feel all my efforts here have no effect on who and how I opperate. Like I cant think of ONE Appt that I have booked from this site in at least 1.5 years! I have even made threads about this very topic with no good outcome.

 

I know MOD, how broken you may feel, like this is YOUR baby and put so much time and effort into this site. I wish it was a perfect world. But alast....nope:(

 

I hope no matter what we can remain together in one form or another.

[Guest S****r]

A couple of thoughts--cause like the other ladies who spoke up, I don't get any traffic from here anymore, either, but I have liked the sense of community that used to exist, so I have stayed. I would be happier to pay a monthly membership fee than pay for advertising that doesn't bring in any business. If everyone paid a fee, clients and SPs alike, maybe that could keep it going?

 

How to attract more men here who are actually booking ladies and not just collecting photos of boobies and asses to masturbate to is the question. Cause then we ladies would be happier to pay for advertising because we would be generating leads for income. Perhaps instead of degenerating to the other -erb boards, how about classing things up instead? They go low; we go high. Attracting men with money who are actually looking for a date? Maybe implementing some systems that would help these men be able to just jump on this board, find ladies of interest, and then book them through the site? Maybe have a verification system for both clients and providers that would help facilitate a smooth search and booking?

 

I don't know. These are just some thoughts off the top of my head. Take them for what they are worth. Either way, I wish everyone the best.

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

A couple of thoughts--cause like the other ladies who spoke up, I don't get any traffic from here anymore, either, but I have liked the sense of community that used to exist, so I have stayed. I would be happier to pay a monthly membership fee than pay for advertising that doesn't bring in any business. If everyone paid a fee, clients and SPs alike, maybe that could keep it going?

 

How to attract more men here who are actually booking ladies and not just collecting photos of boobies and asses to masturbate to is the question. Cause then we ladies would be happier to pay for advertising because we would be generating leads for income. Perhaps instead of degenerating to the other -erb boards, how about classing things up instead? They go low; we go high. Attracting men with money who are actually looking for a date? Maybe implementing some systems that would help these men be able to just jump on this board, find ladies of interest, and then book them through the site? Maybe have a verification system for both clients and providers that would help facilitate a smooth search and booking?

 

I don't know. These are just some thoughts off the top of my head. Take them for what they are worth. Either way, I wish everyone the best.

 

I like your trian of thought here. I am following.

I feel that we have lost the "elite and exclusive" because of allowing the back and forth of "this BP lady or that BP" not just in discussions but also in our reco? If the clients nor the lady is involved with this site then why should we promite them?

I know I know....cause is the CANADIAN RECO borad....but yet seems counter reactive to allow such glowing praise for ppl who are not apart of this community:(

[50 Shades Raven 31380]

I agree with Sophia here in NOT promoting lades that are clearly not a part of this group.

If someone wants a recommendation of someone who is strictly on BP and not on Lyla, then it is up to that person to find out for themselves.

 

I, for one, would gladly pay a monthly fee to be part of a group where we can have these open discussions.

 

Why should this site support those that don't want to be a part of this?

I've been contacted in the past about other girls having a listing here, and they 'can't be bothered'. But they will pay to have their ads on BP.

 

I have ads on BP and several other sites, but I get more feedback and a better quality of gentlemen from here.

 

There are too many rip-off artists on BP, at least here on Lyla, we are protected from this sort of thing.

 

Things have changed from the threads that I have been reading from before I joined this. It seems that the governments 'wandering eye' has taken a lot of people out of the game.

This is entertainment, and as such we should be free to choose to offer this.

 

This is a great site, I've looked at others and still am here.

Keep up the good work Lyla, I love it here.

[drlove 37204]

I agree with Sophia and Raven... the tone of the board has changed dramatically in the past few years. Back when I joined in 2008, I could look forward to a steady influx of captivating, well read, intelligent ladies. Further, the discourse between the ladies and gents made for interesting discussions, with the diverse range of topics and opinions discussed here. It was always a step above the other boards, and Cerb/Lyla exuded class. Now, however it seems that some ladies prefer to advertise on places like "BP" exclusively, and are unwilling to become a part of a community such as ours. I feel it's a give and take - that said, choosing to simply monetize a service takes away from the spirit of what makes places such as Lyla so special. Moreover, discussion in some forums has been reduced to "Have you seen so and so from BP?" ad infinitum, ad nauseum. I for one do not see why these ladies may be discussed, as they are generally not part of Lyla, nor do they wish to be, as another poster pointed out. I prefer not to delve into what I refer to as the wild west, as BP and other spots are a free for all, imho. I prefer to stick to the tried tested and true, which is why I am proud to be a member here.

[Flawesome 1220]

I much prefer Lyla to Terb because of the culture here. Too bad there isn't more activity on the Toronto forums.

[mod 135640]

I agree with Sophia and Raven... the tone of the board has changed dramatically in the past few years.

 

This is mostly due to the laws changing in Canada so dramatically. Our company is and was not willing to go against the law. We would win a court battle as we all know it's unconstitutional what they are doing but it would cost so much to fight it the risk outweighs the reward. The site is not a money maker (it could be ... but we never perused it financially) so unlike bigdog, now mag and others who have fought the law but had large money backing them we do not have that luxury so drastic changes had to be made to conform to the current laws. It's unfortunate but it's a fact of life.

 

Terb/merb/etc... they moved the servers to another country and hid everything in a way that it can not trace back to anyone running it in Canada. Thats a huge risk for them too if they are still in Canada running it (Maybe they moved too?) I don't know personally but we were not willing to move to another country either.

 

No member here is stepping up to run the site against the laws either... (I didn't think anyone would as it's ok if someone else does it but no one ever wants to take the risk personally)

 

The company who has the offer on the site right now is from another country so maybe if the deal finally goes through we will see it back to the way it was. Not sure what tomorrow holds.

[FunElement12 974]

This is the only board I participate in because I do like the tone and civility here.

 

I would like that the recommendations remain the same way. I'm not really interested in reading reviews that are negative and most importantly one-sided. Negative reviews that are only from one side help no one. As a client if I ever had an encounter that was not what I was expecting I would not automatically assume it's the escort fault. Chemistry is not always a given. What works for me in an encounter may not work for another client and vice versa.

 

 

But I also think that a bit of loosening up of some of the rules would also be perfectly alright. We are all adults here! More nudity or less restrictive use of certain words would be fine by me.

[mod 135640]

I did remove all the censors and loosen restrictions on nude photos (Excluding outright porn and anything too vulgar). Censors were here to protect the guys too, if you post that you paid a lady and received sexual services your admitting to breaking the current laws.... lots of people dont know the current laws. Now that it has been a long enough time I felt pulling the censors works now.

[slipin-jimmy 1020]

I would like the recommendations to stay the same for comments(positive) but maybe add a quick survey (ratings 1-10) to rate very objective things such as: was everyone on time,have discussed arrangement matched the delivered service, would you repeat, etc. these results can be made into 1 chart showing the average. This would give a bit more info while doing some research.

 

The objective survey could work both ways...clients rate the ladies and ladies can rate the clients. I think this would just lead to excellent quality members in the long run...kinda like ebay where sellers and buyers rate each other and your feedback score becomes your reputation for future transactions.

[Guest S****r]

The problem with guys being rated is that they just create a new email address and persona, etc when they get even blacklisted, so rating the guys is useless. So I would therefore strongly object to women being rated on any kind of scale. Puh lease we are living, breathing, imperfect people!!

[Jabba 18389]

I would like the recommendations to stay the same for comments(positive) but maybe add a quick survey (ratings 1-10) to rate very objective things such as: was everyone on time,have discussed arrangement matched the delivered service, would you repeat, etc. these results can be made into 1 chart showing the average. This would give a bit more info while doing some research.

 

The objective survey could work both ways...clients rate the ladies and ladies can rate the clients. I think this would just lead to excellent quality members in the long run...kinda like ebay where sellers and buyers rate each other and your feedback score becomes your reputation for future transactions.

 

Edited post - factually incorrect.

Nothing to see here.

[Paris Rose 1020]

So far I really like the tone of this forum. It's a lot to get your head around and I think I'm almost there, but one thing I have already noticed is I love the calm and welcoming tone of this place. I also appreciate it not having a horrible rating system too.

As I'm new here I do not know what it was like before, nor do I know how great the influx of work will be, as I won't be using it for a couple of months to post ads, as that'll be when I'm touring Canada; so on that subject I cannot comment.

So far I like this forum, it's usefulness and the civility of everyone here.

[Xidrah 1099]

my purse opinion is that . . .

 

the more room there is for a larger crowd the more goals WILL be attained.

 

rules POLICIES & expectations are evrything evrywhere...

 

for anyone who is BRAND NEW; all the more attention & /xpectation should be given & outwardly welcomed & appreciated.

 

but if the speculation for newbys does reward the same is does veterans/vetrans

 

then a KNOWN expectation of Capabilities/NON-caps should be SHOWN & or Explained= BOHhSss /both is better !

[mod 135640]

So true... the format works (not for everyone)

 

The software on the other hand... is actually broke... why we had a hacker issue is because the software is OLD and outdated. The new software that is getting customized right now looks and feels very much the same (I got a sneak peek last month).

[WhereIRoam 21825]

Lyla has its perks, like a great community and a more balanced input from both sides of the industry, but due to recommendations only and positive only comments it is not a true reflection of the industry as a whole. IMO, members should publicly be made aware of sub par experiences since experiences in the industry are not all rosie, positive and perfect. So in some aspects Lyla is only a fraction of the truth.

[Gregsand 6116]

Lyla has its perks, like a great community and a more balanced input from both sides of the industry, but due to recommendations only and positive only comments it is not a true reflection of the industry as a whole. IMO, members should publicly be made aware of sub par experiences since experiences in the industry are not all rosie, positive and perfect. So in some aspects Lyla is only a fraction of the truth.

 

Completely agree. The current system inadvertently favorises hidden discussions via private messages as many topics and opinions are either considered taboo or plainly against current rules. When describing an experience as "just ok", the inbox shouldn't fill up with questions on how bad it really was. Having met ladies who went through Hell and back and could still manage to do their job with a smile, I think it's safe to say most are not thin skinned.

[Gregsand 6116]

So to say that a bad reco. is going to make it better no i do not think so that is my opinion.

 

Criticism or negative comments don't need to be "bad". It can be informative for lobbyists who'll determine by themselves if a concern or not. And for the lady involved to take it constructively or just plain ignore it. I agree a bad experience for one won't necessarily be the same for others. But if there helpful details to know about someone, it shouldn't be censured for the sake of keeping things positive.

[NotchJohnson 214136]

I think this thread is going in a wrong direction but I would like to chime in on the last few replies. If your date went bad because she did not kiss you or give a bbbj or she was at a cheap motel(unless the doors are off the hinges and rats are roaming around), well this should not be in a bad review.

If the lady was rude, not clean, stole from you or had a bouncer in the room with her, took 20 calls/text while in doggy style, cut your time short so to get rid of you etc... This should be posted as to get us gents aware of them.

 

Again this is a survey thread so I'm sorry for keeping it going this way.

[Gregsand 6116]

I'm not saying censorship is a good thing I'm saying negative comments should have a place of their own that's why I recommend the pm system .

 

The problem is that the PM system shouldn't be used that way and also because the current rules don't allow it.

 

As posted by the MOD in regard to PM system abuse: http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=256197

 

"- Do not post NEGATIVE comments about ladies, if it's a bait and switch you can post about it but don't abuse that either

 

- No not post telling people how to find negative info (Google her name) for instance or the other board starting with the letter X has lots of info."

 

We can post positive and warnings(bait & switch/fraud), but nothing in between. A bit more flexibility would remove the need for parallel hidden conversations that benefit very few people.

 

Additional Comments:

If your date went bad because she did not kiss you or give a bbbj or she was at a cheap motel(unless the doors are off the hinges and rats are roaming around), well this should not be in a bad review.

 

I agree out of her control things shouldn't be used against a provider. But some things should. Like: Questionnable hygiene and health, signs of drug use, lack of privacy, hostile work environment and strong evidence of overbooking.

[SimoneLorzielle 1020]

I like the way that Lyla operates now. I mean, I understand how warning people about negative experiences and poor service providers can be a good thing (ish) but so many people use the potential of posting a negative review as a way to negotiate and honestly exploit girls. If an SP doesn't have a good ad, then read that as you will. It's pretty straight forward that good reviews = good service and no reviews = not so hot, y'know?

 

HOWEVER, one thing I would like to see change is allowing SP's to post nudies. I love posting nude pics and selfies, and as long as the picture isn't like a full-spread, or porny or anything. Just nice naked people showing off their beautiful naked bodies.