GFE definition

[explorer69 3513]

I don't know if I am the only one who feels this way but I welcome your comments.

Many of you refer to an escort as GFE when she does cbj.

On another Board for Ottawa(the one that rhymes with this one and originates from Toronto), GFE is bbbj

For those of us who prefer bbbj is it possible that if it is cbj that you refer to it as safeGFE?

Otherwise it is impossible to know. I realize it may be a YMMV thing but not usually. There are those SPs who do bbbj and those who don't.

[xxxAxxx 21016]

I personally agree that GFE does consist of bbbj....as well as LFK/DFK & DATY, things of the like. I also have heard references to safeGFE and assumed this was referring to CBJ....but i also assume it still involves kissing and the sort....If there is anything we can learn from the boards it's that everyone's opinion varies on the topic....every client has his own thoughts that vary, as does every SP. Now, as an SP, when seeing "GFE" or "safeGFE", my assumptions won't cause me any grief, but as a client, yours might if you plan on seeing an SP and ASSUME that her idea of GFE / safeGFE is the same as yours. Hope my input helped.

 

While we're on the subject....I've always been a little confused as to why some ppl have reviewed my services PSE as well as GFE....is it the outfits? the toys? the facials? the extras (greek...cim) ?? what's the honest to god difference? I've never advertised myself as PSE....should i have been? These are all things i was more than willing to do with my past boyfriends....so to me, it's all GFE...i hope someone will shed some light on the subject....a few ppl gettin in on this would be spectacular.

[Sir Cumsalot 100]

I personally agree that GFE does consist of bbbj....as well as LFK/DFK & DATY, things of the like. I also have heard references to safeGFE and assumed this was referring to CBJ....but i also assume it still involves kissing and the sort....If there is anything we can learn from the boards it's that everyone's opinion varies on the topic....every client has his own thoughts that vary, as does every SP. Now, as an SP, when seeing "GFE" or "safeGFE", my assumptions won't cause me any grief, but as a client, yours might if you plan on seeing an SP and ASSUME that her idea of GFE / safeGFE is the same as yours. Hope my input helped.

 

While we're on the subject....I've always been a little confused as to why some ppl have reviewed my services PSE as well as GFE....is it the outfits? the toys? the facials? the extras (greek...cim) ?? what's the honest to god difference? I've never advertised myself as PSE....should i have been?

 

To me, if you do greek and facials, you are a PSE. Again only my opinion.

 

Quick question for you.

During next week's "special" do you still do greek?

[xxxAxxx 21016]

unfortunately, no.

[Sir Cumsalot 100]

unfortunately, no.

 

Damn.

I am trying to find time in my sked to finally see you.....but I am afaraid I won't have time until next Thursday or Friday.

Friday's my birthday so I won't be working.

[d*mm*y 887]

My 2 cents worth as as follows, GFE is including DFK, BBBJ, 69. Safe GFE is cbj, extreme GFE would include greek. PSE is a more aggressive style of sex, a little pushing and shoving, could include Greek and definetly CIM (the money shot!).

 

I recently had an experience with Baby, her style was MSE (Montreal stripper Experience) it was very visual and she was very expressive with her body but it was deigned to arouse from the visual effect (strip tease body dance lap dance) then the service was GFE.

 

So the acronyms continue! I find it easier to clarify what the SP's definition is before booking to avoid disappointment, however most SP's have there own style and if they are professional it will be good.

[mrniceguy 110]

My expectations:

 

"Safe GFE" = kissing, CBJ, DATY, and I assume if she just says "GFE" that it's "Safe GFE"

 

PSE = BBBJ, CIM and/or facial (especially facial... if I see "PSE", I think facial for sure), and I would also expect these on the menu if she says "Unrestricted GFE" or "No restrictions"

 

As for Greek, I think it may be on the menu for either of the above, depending on the lady (and how much you get her motor running... I've had Safe GFE who was happy to do Greek, and there are certainly Unrestricted GFEs who don't go there - thinking of the lovely Veronica)

 

As always, YMMV of course...

[Guest katia]

Unfortunately since few years GFE became unprotected activities... There is more and more single men and divorced men out there too. It may be one of the reason. There is few exceptions of course.

[dreamer8 510]

For me true GFE is more that the level of sex provided its the overall experiance but I agree GFE must consist of bbbj.

 

katia I read your post 3 times and I don't get the point your tring to make?

[lookinggg 125]

So the acronyms continue! I find it easier to clarify what the SP's definition is before booking to avoid disappointment, however most SP's have there own style and if they are professional it will be good. >

 

> very true....that's why agencies vs Indy...I rather speak directly ( that Jason from PK could sell igloos to Eskimos for sure...lol)

 

very subjective and YMMV for sure...but GFE for me is the whole experience as if the lady had not seen her man for a week...from the moment you step in the door...any one "service" may be nice but if she's good it won't matter a bit..I'd say I have a bit of a kissing fetish and I want her to enjoy it as well...or at least a convincing acting job..:0)

 

seems to be quite hard to find tho...?

[jimy.2007 100]

Thanks everybody for making this clear.

 

One more question, is MSOG part of GFE or PSE?

[Guest legslovers4]

For me true GFE is more that the level of sex provided its the overall experiance but I agree GFE must consist of bbbj.

 

katia I read your post 3 times and I don't get the point your tring to make?

 

I am reading yours and don't exactly understand each words... Tring?

[xxxAxxx 21016]

Thanks everybody for making this clear.

 

One more question, is MSOG part of GFE or PSE?

 

 

if "TIME" is what you're paying for, i believe it should be part of both.

my humble opinion.

[Guest AL]

My expectations:

 

"Safe GFE" = kissing, CBJ, DATY, and I assume if she just says "GFE" that it's "Safe GFE"

 

PSE = BBBJ, CIM and/or facial (especially facial... if I see "PSE", I think facial for sure), and I would also expect these on the menu if she says "Unrestricted GFE" or "No restrictions"

 

As for Greek, I think it may be on the menu for either of the above, depending on the lady (and how much you get her motor running... I've had Safe GFE who was happy to do Greek, and there are certainly Unrestricted GFEs who don't go there - thinking of the lovely Veronica)

 

As always, YMMV of course...

 

 

You forgot GFE is: BBBJ - DFK - Daty - Pearl and MSOG.

 

Hum! that would be the perfect lady.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

Don't forget WiFE= constant nagging, lots of headaches, definitely no blow jobs and you pay for it for an eternity!

[xxxAxxx 21016]

you forgot the BFE (boyfriend experience) ....hump for 2 mins then pass out. LOL

[PKjessica (PK is now PKJas 103]

Lmao!!!! :d

[Guest f***2f***]

I'm thinking; GFE=DFK, DATY, BBBJ, MSOG (covered) and unhurried friendly attitude. I wouldn't expect my girlfriend to say "are you done yet?"

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

K, well getting this thread back on track... everyone has a different definition of GFE, it's always best to establish a common ground with the lady prior to meeting to ensure you are both on the same page as far as what constitutes a GFE experience. Open, honest communication will avoid disapointment and any misunderstanding.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

CK --

 

I cant disagree with that ... there's no substitute for good communication. But the last thing I want to do when I meet a new lady is to go through a business transaction, so to speak. I want to invite her in, sit down with a glass of wine and get to know her a bit, not discuss what's "on the menu," so to speak. As stupid as it may sound, I want it to be as real as possible.

 

In my limited experience, going with a reputable agency and a well-reviewed lady is the best way to try to guarantee a good experience ... not just relying on whether the term GFE is used or not. Having more information on the website or advertisement is also helpful.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

Sadly though it is pretty much a business transaction. I hear where you are coming from. Nowadays most bookings or first contact is by email, this is where you can establish the conditions of your encounter, that way when or if you decide to meet the formalities are out of the way and you can focus on the fun!

[Guest katia]

CK --

 

I cant disagree with that ... there's no substitute for good communication. But the last thing I want to do when I meet a new lady is to go through a business transaction, so to speak. I want to invite her in, sit down with a glass of wine and get to know her a bit, not discuss what's "on the menu," so to speak. As stupid as it may sound, I want it to be as real as possible.

 

In my limited experience, going with a reputable agency and a well-reviewed lady is the best way to try to guarantee a good experience ... not just relying on whether the term GFE is used or not. Having more information on the website or advertisement is also helpful.

 

Make sure you pay before you sit and discuss cause they will think you are a waistimer. 2 ladies had to kick out a client last week cause he wanted to talk only and he didn't want to pay. He didn't want to leave. They finally found out he had mental issues.

[xxxAxxx 21016]

CK --

 

I cant disagree with that ... there's no substitute for good communication. But the last thing I want to do when I meet a new lady is to go through a business transaction, so to speak. I want to invite her in, sit down with a glass of wine and get to know her a bit, not discuss what's "on the menu," so to speak. As stupid as it may sound, I want it to be as real as possible.

 

In my limited experience, going with a reputable agency and a well-reviewed lady is the best way to try to guarantee a good experience ... not just relying on whether the term GFE is used or not. Having more information on the website or advertisement is also helpful.

 

Sadly though it is pretty much a business transaction. I hear where you are coming from. Nowadays most bookings or first contact is by email, this is where you can establish the conditions of your encounter, that way when or if you decide to meet the formalities are out of the way and you can focus on the fun!

 

i agree that such details should be discussed BEFORE an encounter (in my case, more than likely by email or msn), it is a bit of a mood-ruiner for both the client and MYSELF to discuss BUSINESS during a session! Cash upfront is expected, however in most of my cases, the logisitics and regulations have been previously set up, so there's no awkardness, no unsurities. This is because i am more than willing to answer questions about my services, etc prior to meeting. So, once u get here...jst str8 FUN....leave the $ on my dresser and take your pants off.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

CK and Katia --

 

CK, your point about e-mail details is a good one, and that's why I prefer to meet ladies or agencies that are good at responding online. Katia, your point is also a good one, and I have always had the money in an unsealed envelope and immediately and discretely point it out to the lady when she comes in.

 

My point goes to the "details": I'd rather just rely on the ladies website or ad information and, if possible, a reference to "GFE." I suppose I could be taken advantage of, but I'd rather have my teeth drilled than discuss that after arrival, both because I am shy and, also, because I never want to be accused of soliciting a lady for a sexual act. Having a reasonably certain definition of GFE, or at least an explanation of what GFE means to a particular lady that is listed in their website or ad, is good for both the client and the lady.

 

I did have one humorous/embarrassing situation arise in my first and only visit to Montreal last fall, I think due to the fact that I had underestimated the language barrier. As usual (usual is a relative term because I have only done this a handful of times -- smile), when the lady arrived, I pointed out the envelope and a small gift that I had left on a table, but she didn't seem to pay much attention, and we went on with our encounter. At the end of the visit, I didn't even notice that the envelope/gift was still there, and when I asked her if there was anything else I could get her before she left, she giggled in a serious way and said, "pay me!" I immediately again pointed out the envelope and gift, and she was very happy with both and left with a big hug and kiss, but I still felt terrible, and obviously she didn't understand English that well so she presumably had to go through the entire visit not knowing where the money was. That should never happen to a lady.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

i agree that such details should be discussed BEFORE an encounter (in my case, more than likely by email or msn), it is a bit of a mood-ruiner for both the client and MYSELF to discuss BUSINESS during a session! Cash upfront is expected, however in most of my cases, the logisitics and regulations have been previously set up, so there's no awkardness, no unsurities. This is because i am more than willing to answer questions about my services, etc prior to meeting. So, once u get here...jst str8 FUN....leave the $ on my dresser and take your pants off.

 

Sorry Alexxxis, I saw you reply after I started my first reply ... that's very well put (especially the last line ;)). The thing is, I'm not going to discuss the issue at all ... I'm just going to rely on whatever the lady has stated about herself on her website or ad, so the more detail that is there, the better. Also, her reviews, if any, on cerb and terb, etc. Again, I could be taken advantage of, but that's preferable to the alternative IMHO, and ... at least so far, its always turned out fine.