loneskater 25635 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) While we all have our ideas of what GFE means, we do need to keep up our end of the bargain as well. Not once have I had a girlfriend roll on a condom before oral sex. With that in mind, I've been clean and shaved for the most part. If I've been eating onion sandwiches and drinking beer all day, why would I expect my GF, or SP, to want to participate in any form of kissing, let alone DFK? We need to keep in mind that this is a two way street, that involves two parties/individuals. Having said that, I don't know how you can rate someone a GFE when there's no kissing, DATY, and only CBJ. I've had some lousy girlfriends, but c'mon... I agree with kissing and Daty but again if you read the extract from Wilkepedia, that capitalman put up, there is nowhere it mentions that a BJ has to be bareback which is often what ends up a sticky point with GFE. Because you put your own spin to it you can't cry foul because an SP's service is different than your own definition of GFE. I could say that I expect Greek to be part of GFE but then I could not cry foul if I did not get it from an SP that advertises GFE. That is why it is important to find out what services are available before hand. We can't expect SPs to adjust their advertising to each and everyone of us because we all have different definitions. I can see the website. Oh loneskater my GFE is different from yours. Oh Dummpy I mean the same as you do by GFE and so on for how many members here on CERB. Capitalman did say the lady just "layed there" now that to all is not GFE. There was even a post from an SP saying she wasn't interested in seeing clients who just lay there so this art is a 2 way thing. If anyone wants to link GFE to BBBJ well sorry but you are in for many dissapointment. You can't just make your own definition of terms and have to go by what the term generally means on this board. Some of the favorites SPs that were here on CERB, who have retired, would not give BBBJ but yet they were rated as top GFE by all who spent time with them. Of course it always help to avoid confusion when an SP mentions "Safe GFE". Edited August 10, 2008 by loneskater Spell check Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capitalman 3861 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 Way back when (I'm pretty old ya know) a GF called me a dead fuck. WHAT!?? How dare she say that!! It was a good kick in the face because it made me realize the girl likes some movement, noise and action too ya know. I've tried to improve this ever since. I'm definitely learning lots as I venture along in this world. I enjoy reading what everyone has to say btw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest f***2f*** Report post Posted August 10, 2008 Ouch...a dead fuck!!! that must have hurt!! IMHO Wikipedia or any other pedia is not the final definitive word on anything. GFE is a acronym to try and help you understand what to expect. there is no cut and dry menu that says, "definately this and not that." As with a real Girl friend your mileage will vary.....chemistry and attitude are the determining factors. I read the sex blogs a lot and there are women in there who never give their husbands head, anal or anything un-vanilla, cause they are stuck in role expectations. Yet they are having affairs and blowing guys brains out with the suction they're getting into (and taking it up the hershy highway) . SPs are no different...they may do something for a favorite or someone they are experiencing chemistry with that they would not do with another...thus the disclaimer ymmv. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxAxxx 21016 Report post Posted January 9, 2013 So happy I found this! --Good read-- This exact thread is the reason I now call my services "GFE-PSE" as opposed to just GFE! ;) This should totally be a sticky! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest t****ster***ke Report post Posted January 9, 2013 i guess it depends on what kind of girlfriends you've had over the years! :) i've dated some women who i definitely would not want a service pro to replicate for me! i think someone should consider offering the "girl you would cheat on your girlfriend with" experience (yes, i know, GYWCOYGWE is not exactly the catchiest acronym, but i digress)! those are the type of women i would want an sp to try and imitate! even pse is fairly relative, as a lot of porn has no greek (or even greek subtitles) or "aggressive" sex, as was referred to in an earlier post. even cof is not a universal thing, even though it is the most common money shot. i think the only common aspect of pse, is that the providers are all really into the experience and that the dynamic has a certain level of intensity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phaedrus 209521 Report post Posted January 10, 2013 i think someone should consider offering the "girl you would cheat on your girlfriend with" experience I suspect that pretty much all SPs are offering a "girl you are cheating on your girlfriend with" experience on a regular basis :) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest t****ster***ke Report post Posted January 10, 2013 I suspect that pretty much all SPs are offering a "girl you are cheating on your girlfriend with" experience on a regular basis :) true! to be clear, i meant that woman who makes it so you just can't help yourself and have to cheat because she is just so cool, smart, funny and sexually adventurous that's she's pushing your boundaries - not the other way around. it doesn't even feel like seduction, it's such an organic thing, where one thing just truly leads to another. these are the types of women who have always challenged my faith ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
