Craigs list... no more "erotic" section?

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Unfortunately I have to disagree with above statement(not that I have a problem with CL closed). Many of the girls who used to advertise with CL do NOT know about cerb or heard about EC in order to come over especially the younger and newer ones. And yes plenty as you said worth a damn and some are great, it but I admit not all.

 

Everytime I used to meet a lady from CL (and I have met plenty), I had to tell them about cerb and to my surprise, they were surprised that such board exists (I would say about 90% of them). I have come across many examples of this kind and the most recent being Jaymie who I had the pleasure yesterday (she had no idea whatsoever about cerb and at first even appeared scared until I showed her various parts of the board and the ad section), but I can give you a long list of girls. I wish there was a magic way that we could let know all those girls on CL about cerb and EC. May be improved or even aggressive marketing technics about free cerb and the EC site is the key (just a suggestion).

[mod 135639]

That " magic way " is called GOOGLE and judging from the last couple days it's being used a LOT.

 

Usually this time of year we get between 4000 and 5000 visitors from google per day to escorts-canada.com.

 

Today we received 23000 on EC !!! (Just from google)

 

Cerb's stats for google this month (Don't have a day by day annalitics set up for cerb just averages)

 

- Google18155

 

... and the stats system died on me 6 days this month so that is the traffic from google this month (Excluding December 12th to 17th) as the stats cron task failed so that was 13 days our of the month and I would say 1/3 of that is just from this weekend!

 

Before they had no reason to go anywhere else then CL... Now without CL the guys and the ladies are all searching google (as everyone knows what google is) to find where they can recoup some of that momentum they had. They all have a taste now of what online advertising can do... hopefully they don't get fooled by the CL knock off sites as they just don't have the traffic.

 

Escorts-Canada has MANY listings with google and can easily be found. Same with lyla.com and localescorts.ca (and of course cerb.ca) so the ladies (and the guys) will find us!

 

It's already CLEARLY showing as EC probably has 35-40 new ads just in the last 2 days!!!!

[roamingguy 300292]

That " magic way " is called GOOGLE and judging from the last couple days it's being used a LOT.

 

Usually this time of year we get between 4000 and 5000 visitors from google per day to escorts-canada.com.

 

Today we received 23000 on EC !!! (Just from google)

 

Cerb's stats for google this month (Don't have a day by day annalitics set up for cerb just averages)

 

- Google18155

 

... and the stats system died on me 6 days this month so that is the traffic from google this month (Excluding December 12th to 17th) as the stats cron task failed so that was 13 days our of the month and I would say 1/3 of that is just from this weekend!

 

Before they had no reason to go anywhere else then CL... Now without CL the guys and the ladies are all searching google (as everyone knows what google is) to find where they can recoup some of that momentum they had. They all have a taste now of what online advertising can do... hopefully they don't get fooled by the CL knock off sites as they just don't have the traffic.

 

Escorts-Canada has MANY listings with google and can easily be found. Same with lyla.com and localescorts.ca (and of course cerb.ca) so the ladies (and the guys) will find us!

 

It's already CLEARLY showing as EC probably has 35-40 new ads just in the last 2 days!!!!

 

Google, that's how I found CERB, the rest they say is history

RG

[roamingguy 300292]

I hope that this does not come off as negative but....why would you need another site? Are the ladies here not enough??? I do understand that variety is the spice of life but you can find all types of wonderful women right here! I am proud to be part of cerb and I, for one, will tirelessly promote this site as the number one venue to meet spectacular women!!!

 

If it wasn't for CERB I wouldn't have had the pleasure of meeting you, and other lovely ladies. I have found the ladies of CERB intelligient, personable, friendly, attractive and sexy. My one (and only) CL experience I found the "lady" to be one step from working a street corner doing a hustle, and if she was ever on CERB, she'd be gone pretty fast.

Maybe if CL did some self policing, this wouldn't have happened to them

My thoughts with only half cup of coffee in me

RG

[quick25 137]

I am really interested in seeing where this is going to go. Will sp's create individual sites, or come here or EC. I really hope none leave the business. I am looking forward to what next year will bring.

[Jolie 3396]

Well I know I for one am looking into paper ads and a web site. I have been a Cerb member for a long time now but I must say many of my clientele have come from cl. I have met a few amazing people here on cerb but non like to write reviews SO alot of cerb people don't know what an amazing treat I am (lol) and thats fine , but this cl is deffinately going to hurt the pocket.

Only time can tell. What realy makes me ponder is, if they are able to just shut down cl, well whats next?

[Capital Hunter 18263]

I am glad that it is working so well for us mod. I am just surprised that I met so many great gals on CL past two years and most totally unaware of cerb and had to pass the good news by the word of mouth. I hope that Google come to rescue and all those lovely ladies who used to advertise on CL come over to what I tell them to be a classy board and safer environment to advertise for free and then join EC as well.

[jughead 45]

Perhaps everone MISSED the "LOL" at the end of the comment about cowboy, he is well known for his ability to seach out fact from fiction and is very good at it.

 

I am all for sites like cerb, and the other site both have usefull roles and proivide different information, on cerb you get positive feed back and get a chance to see ads from different sp, mp or whom ever.

Sites such as CL there will always be those whom would choose to us to to post fakes and to try and scam us, but it did allow and chance for those to post who did not wish to be online more that once a day or couple of days. The options are now even less for thoses who justs wanted to post an ad and not have to be online all the time.

[Lisaoftoronto 628]

For the past year craigslist has done rite by me, so I am pretty pissed off.

 

Friday evening I was on my home after spending the day spending money lol lots of it ...didn't have anything booked for the evening thought I'd log in and post some ads, by the time I got home it would usually be guaranteed I had a call. With craigslist i worked as i needed. I used them in the Caribbean and I see the erotic section is gone from there too.

 

Toronto craigslist was crazy with spam, flagging etc but it paid well, this im sure will hit the ladies hard and bad time too with xmas and all.

 

so many clients who otherwise didnt know where to look found us there, craigslist is so universal ..u have no idea how many times i heard oh i went to craigslist to buy something and found you there

 

i admit i miss the days when u could just buy a few ads and it was good enough but hasnt been like that lately, for me without craigslist i woulda starved lol...i hope that doesn't happen - it would be nice if business picked up from the sites like escorts-canada cuz those days were simpler just pay for a few ads and phone rings all day

 

oh well i dunno i guess we all have to adjust to the change

fuck me ....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....lol

[lovethegirls 127]

Granted CL was flooded with alot of repeat ads. What I'm going to miss, is the small town ads on CL. To go looking on CERB, or EC, makes it alot harder. I am not looking to travel an hour or so to see an SP. I really will miss CL for the local small town listings. Just my 2 cents.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

rule violation - removed by the mod.

 

You can't type out the full word because as stated in the rules of the board you cannot discuss other directories listings here, really think about it. They are the competition it's kind of disrespectful to come to this free site supported by Escorts Canada and talk about their compeitors, don't you think so ?

[whatsup 11893]

Unfortunately I have to disagree with above statement(not that I have a problem with CL closed). Many of the girls who used to advertise with CL do NOT know about cerb or heard about EC in order to come over especially the younger and newer ones. And yes plenty as you said worth a damn and some are great, it but I admit not all.

 

Everytime I used to meet a lady from CL (and I have met plenty), I had to tell them about cerb and to my surprise, they were surprised that such board exists (I would say about 90% of them). I have come across many examples of this kind and the most recent being Jaymie who I had the pleasure yesterday (she had no idea whatsoever about cerb and at first even appeared scared until I showed her various parts of the board and the ad section), but I can give you a long list of girls. I wish there was a magic way that we could let know all those girls on CL about cerb and EC. May be improved or even aggressive marketing technics about free cerb and the EC site is the key (just a suggestion).

 

 

SA over the years you have brought to us many great recommendations from providers that used CL. Which I thank you for.

 

Many you have communicated too that CERB existed and thus they then joined the board. I think with CL being so well known it provided a easy venue for the providers to advertise and I think that in the short term we will not see as many "new gems" or should I say "Ottawa Treasures" ;-)

 

Now I believe that alternate sites will pop up so you/we will be able to find new "Treasures" that we will be able to introduce to CERB.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

As always a true gentleman whatsup.

 

I agree with you completely that we both may have difficulties to find and bring over new Ottawa treasures in the short run, now that CL is shut down, however, I am hoping that somehow the legit ladies of CL (and I know there are many of them) find out about cerb and join us and advertise here. That is why I suggested aggressive advertising in all cities across, to make non-cerbite treasure ladies aware of this board and EC site.

 

Btw, have a very safe and very happy holiday season whatsup. Happy hobbying in the new year my friend.

[whatsup 11893]

I feel that CL erotic ads had a place in our society. It worked in conjunction with CERB by attracting new members, be it providers that became CERB members and used both mediums for advertisement or hobbyists that were looking for providers that became CERB members.

 

I know that there has been providers that have become CERB members that initially came from CL and have bought or have been bought CERB banners by hobbyists and advertisements on EC. Thus, they can work harmoniously together.

[ricktrem 107]

I'm not sure CL and the politicians have thought it thru.Kijiji did the same move a few years ago and the result was the Personals and therapists sections were flooded with escorts.And finally they siimply killed off those sections because the real massage therapists and people looking for a date never knew if they were answering for an escort or the real deal.This is not the first time it happens and they simply dont learn.They are not fixing a problem ,they are simply moving it.

[Sonya 100]

Hey guys I am a SP who did 95% of my advertising on CL.......although I did have an account on this site. I agree with what one member said on here, most guys don't have the time to write a review of a good time they had with a provider. Hopefully that can change on here...

 

I have met a fair amount of clients from CL and have had some of them over a year now and I am telling them the word of CE and its sister site.

 

I am sure some can agree with me that CL was quick and easy to use, however a more moderated site can control things a bit easier and keep the spammers at bay. (Or at least I hope so)

Feel free to check out my profile as well and say Hi. :wink:

[JoyfulC 132299]

Although I used it, I was never a fan of the site in question. But I agree, this won't end trafficking or underaged prostitution. It may even drive off to somewhere more difficult for enforcement to see it.

 

But the one thing shutting it down does do is end the normalization of it. I remember a time when incall was never openly advertised. It happened all the time, but not usually on a first encounter or without a good reference. Then one day people started openly advertising it, and it wasn't long before everyone started to expect it and think it was risk-free.

 

I never saw anything on that site that made me think there were such serious problems, but apparently others did. And if it were to be seen that such was being done openly, unchecked, then some people might start thinking maybe it was acceptable.

[bago 213]

Ads will just move to other sections such as "therapeutic" "women looking for men" etc.

[Guest Ou**or**n]

The CL erotic service shutdown is worldwide

 

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/12/craigslist-adult-services-international/

[Guest O***wa**W]

 

...In my opinion this is the government starting to fire back after having lost the court case in Ontario. They know they have a losing argument from a legal and ethical standpoint, but that they can win in the court of public opinion if they approach it right. To hell with the truth, lets exploit the public's fears...

 

 

 

I was going to comment on the same thing, how strange it seemed to me, timing wise, since the court case just went through.

 

Additional Comments:

For the past year craigslist has done rite by me, so I am pretty pissed off.

 

Friday evening I was on my home after spending the day spending money lol lots of it ...didn't have anything booked for the evening thought I'd log in and post some ads, by the time I got home it would usually be guaranteed I had a call. With craigslist i worked as i needed. I used them in the Caribbean and I see the erotic section is gone from there too.

 

Toronto craigslist was crazy with spam, flagging etc but it paid well, this im sure will hit the ladies hard and bad time too with xmas and all.

 

so many clients who otherwise didnt know where to look found us there, craigslist is so universal ..u have no idea how many times i heard oh i went to craigslist to buy something and found you there

 

i admit i miss the days when u could just buy a few ads and it was good enough but hasnt been like that lately, for me without craigslist i woulda starved lol...i hope that doesn't happen - it would be nice if business picked up from the sites like escorts-canada cuz those days were simpler just pay for a few ads and phone rings all day

 

oh well i dunno i guess we all have to adjust to the change

fuck me ....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....lol

 

 

Agreed. This is exactly why my partner and I used CL, because most of our clients were first timers. They were new to the scene, had no idea of sites like cerb. CL was the first and only place they went to check it out. They didnt consider themselves hobbiests, and in some cases, refused to participate on this site even after we told them about it.

 

We also liked that it was easy to use, easy to edit and delete your ads.

[Valarie_Curves 503]

Yes I understand the trafficking issue needs to be addressed.. but this was defiantly not the way to go. These people don't only exist because of craigslist. They will find some other site and go more underground. They should of kept the Erotic section because at least "they" saw what was going on and they could investigate or arrest accordingly.

 

What really sucks is that no site can make your phone ring like CL. The "hobbyist" is only a small percentage of "clients". CL made it easy for that guy who "don't usually" do this "kinda thing". He just broke up with his girlfriend kinda guys.. Will that guy be willing to go SEARCHING for an escort now.. Hopefully so.

 

We get taken down in casual encounters the second it goes up.. no matter how discreet it is. All i wrote was email me for info, and 5 mins later Gone.. So Our best bet is therapeutic,but we can't post pics. Hopefully men will think to look there...

 

All those stupid politian's must be patting themselves on the back... and NOTHING has been done to help the problem. Human traffickers,Child prostitution rings...

[JoyfulC 132299]

The other thing about cl is that it wasn't a sex site. The site offered a lot of different advertising, and so people felt comfortable going there with no fear of being accused if found out. It's the same thing with The Sun classifieds--who can prove someone bought them to check out the SP ads, and not for the sports news ... or the hypocritical right-wing commentary that would make one gag???

 

We need something similar again (only better managed), something that carries our advertising, sure, but which also offers some "reasonable doubt" explanation for what someone was doing on the site. Neither CERB nor EC currently offer that.

[braddx15 150]

Personally I have to say I used CL, cerb and the cowboy diary as a package. I would read the reviews on cerb and then use CL to see who was available in real time so I could make a last minute appointment. I also checked the cowboy diary regularly to find the scams and was able to do a good job of avoiding them. I know it goes against the moderated nature of CERB but I would not mind having a non moderated, realtime buyer beware section on this site so I could see who was available in real time. This would provide everyone with the best of all worlds. Those who are more cautious could stick to the regular posts and those who liked what CL had to offer could check the unmoderated section.

Just my two cents.

[Suzirider 737]

"non moderated"...don't think that will ever happen here, ever !

[nelle 2165]

I used cl and I have both positive and negative things to say about it shutting down.

 

The negative things would be that I did meet alot of nice gentlemen on there . So yeah in a way I will miss it . but and not to bash anybody like I said there are alot of nice gentlemen on there but I am glad it shut down for both sp's and hobbyist alike.

 

I felt much safer when a guy would say on the phone he got my number from cerb. Cl was a hit and miss for both parties. As well as on cerb you cant get away with writing fake reviews or harassing remarks on other girls just because your jelous or you feel like competion. and I think it's a perk for the men because at least if your a careful or new guy to this you can research your ladie first. Like many gentlemen on here said ' it'll will weed out the good from the bad"

 

All I can say Is yeah I will miss cl . but no more fights, drama , fake reviews , bait and switch and etc. It'll will be alot more peaceful.