Craigs list... no more "erotic" section?

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

15 new ads posted on ec today already and the traffic is still way above normal. sow of the new ads are in Ottawa too for all the Ottawa members..

 

Angela and I are going to renew our ads on e-c this afternoon.

[canuckhooker 19203]

I am going to have to disagree with what is being said in this thread. Firstly I have never used CL to find SPs or MAs, but I realize a lot of people did use it, and even many of its detractors here admit that it was not all bad.

 

The issue, as I see it, has nothing to do with economics and much more to do with the fact that it was shut down by government pressure to make a "statement" about sex work in general. They trotted out the same arguments they have been making in the Bradford case. For the most part they are lies and exaggerations designed to create moral outrage and win votes from the unthinking or unaware populace. They paint all sex-workers and the sex trade as seedy, overrun by lowlifes and criminals.

 

Remembering the differences in US and Canadian prostitution laws, (it was easier to shut down in the US) they had to make the case that CL was overrun with exploited children, human traffickers, and the slave trade; and those that read it were using it to stalk and do harm to the sex-workers. That is outright BS, but it plays well with the Soccer-moms at home reading about it in the Globe.

 

If anyone thinks that a stalker or someone who is meaning to do harm won't use newspaper ads, boards like this, or advertising sites like E-C or others to find a victim then you are mistaken. There maybe a bit more security, but not enough to stop someone who is determined to do evil.

 

As for the Human trafficking angle, not all of those cases involve people being forced into sex-work. In fact I would wager there are a lot more people being exploited into sweat-shops, domestic work, and other low paying jobs than those forced into prostitution. I would say a much higher percentage. Why are they not being looked at by the government? Because it costs them votes in the various ethnic communities. For example, just look at the last two boatloads of people from Sri Lanka that landed on the west coast. From what I saw, there was a large number of men and families in that lot. Not a lot of people who could be exploited in the sex trade. Why are they not tackling that problem? Because it will cost them votes with various communities.

 

In my opinion this is the government starting to fire back after having lost the court case in Ontario. They know they have a losing argument from a legal and ethical standpoint, but that they can win in the court of public opinion if they approach it right. To hell with the truth, lets exploit the public's fears. What worries me is that this is not the only step they will take. This was an easy one for them. I don't think I am being to far-fetched to say that the may start targeting boards like this and other forms of print and electronic media in the near future. They will make the presence of these boards known, and once again start to vilify and attack them. Watch the fear-mongering get worse folks.

 

Sorry to be a "gloomy Gus" but I think any upside that people see in the demise of the CL erotic section, will be soon overshadowed by the fact that we in this world, (Providers, clients etc) are at war with the Government and the "morality-police", and that this is just the first very public shot. They won a victory folks, we didn't.

[mod 135640]

Looks like they are already online for you both!

 

Nicolette

http://www.escorts-canada.com/cgi-bin/ad?id=1934

 

Angela

http://www.escorts-canada.com/cgi-bin/ad?id=12200

 

One suggestion Nicolette .... log into your account and update the text. The headline says "Downtown sept 9-10" and the details in the ad may not be accurate as your ad was offline for a while on EC from the looks of it.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Looks like they are already online for you both!

 

Nicolette

http://www.escorts-canada.com/cgi-bin/ad?id=1934

 

Angela

http://www.escorts-canada.com/cgi-bin/ad?id=12200

 

One suggestion Nicolette .... log into your account and update the text. The headline says "Downtown sept 9-10" and the details in the ad may not be accurate as your ad was offline for a while on EC from the looks of it.

 

Thanks Mod. Everything has been updated. You are the greatest! :grin:

[Mikeyboy 27134]

Sorry to be a "gloomy Gus" but I think any upside that people see in the demise of the CL erotic section, will be soon overshadowed by the fact that we in this world, (Providers, clients etc) are at war with the Government and the "morality-police", and that this is just the first very public shot. They won a victory folks, we didn't.

 

Well said. Although many of us don't agree with the way the site was run, it concerns me that the government was able to put forth enough pressure to shut down this means of advertizing. I just hope that this victory doesn't encorage them to fing new targets. Be careful what you wish for. It's a slippery slope.

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

In the words of the great Frank Barone (Everybody Loves Raymond)..."suck it up Nancy!"

[Andee 220524]

Looks like they are already online for you both!

 

Nicolette

http://www.escorts-canada.com/cgi-bin/ad?id=1934

 

Angela

http://www.escorts-canada.com/cgi-bin/ad?id=12200

 

One suggestion Nicolette .... log into your account and update the text. The headline says "Downtown sept 9-10" and the details in the ad may not be accurate as your ad was offline for a while on EC from the looks of it.

 

Wow - that was quick! Thanks so much!

[quick25 137]

:shock:Well some people might be happy that it is gone, but for me it is how I got into this hobby, and is like losing a part of it. I do not want to steer this thread in a different direction but I was wondering if there are any other sites that you can find out these services. Just because I like to keep many options open.

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

:shock:Well some people might be happy that it is gone, but for me it is how I got into this hobby, and is like losing a part of it. I do not want to steer this thread in a different direction but I was wondering if there are any other sites that you can find out these services. Just because I like to keep many options open.

 

I hope that this does not come off as negative but....why would you need another site? Are the ladies here not enough??? I do understand that variety is the spice of life but you can find all types of wonderful women right here! I am proud to be part of cerb and I, for one, will tirelessly promote this site as the number one venue to meet spectacular women!!!

[teppo57 100]

yes I did notice and thats why I am on here to see if there is a new place for the independent ladies to advertise

[redmachine 1916]

So the politicians really think this is going to stop human trafficking?

 

I don't believe that anybody thinks that closing this site will end human trafficking however there is plenty of documented evidence that this site was a major contributor to the problem. In comparison I recently donated $50 to World Vision now I don't believe that my $50 dollars will end world hunger but I do believe every little helps.

 

Yes the government but pressure on them to either clean up (moderate) or close the site clearly they took the easy way out.

 

The problem with the site is clearly a lack of any moderation. There is a post here in Halifax that I have flaged/reported every day for the last 15 days and it has still not been remove.

Here is a small ex cert from that post that is still up.

 

"........... does coke and yes she is very tiny as well to the herpes i went down there bareback and nothing yet . also being uunder agedshe kinda looks young but that was all the more pleasure for me . the girl is good at what she does thats all that matters . working for that goof ........ who fucking cares your with the girl shes doing what you like you enjoy it whats the problemo dudes .?!??? "

 

So they either are ignoring my flags or they think that this slime ball bragging about having unprotected intercourse with a underage escort who has a pimp is OK? Either way this is a perfect example of why and rightfully so IMHO that this site was shut down.

[PistolPete 61421]

The Ottawa section will be hopping on EC! and kudo's to Mod and those involved with EC!

 

Thanks Mod. Everything has been updated. You are the greatest! :grin:

[vw48 516]

It's curious how CL seemed to develop a Moped identity. It was fun till your friends see you ;)

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[Jabba 18389]

I hope that this does not come off as negative but....why would you need another site? Are the ladies here not enough??? I do understand that variety is the spice of life but you can find all types of wonderful women right here! I am proud to be part of cerb and I, for one, will tirelessly promote this site as the number one venue to meet spectacular women!!!

 

I hope that this post doesn't come off as offensive - Curiously, I'm male (and secure) enough of a person to understand your perspective and not take offence. I have to ask you what in your opinion represents "enough" or "variety" not already represented on CERB. Your opinion sounds vaguely similar to what we should expect from a WLE (Wife Life Experience) - the WLE is what inspires us guys to explore...or didn't you relate?

[quick25 137]

Sorry thanks for the heads up I didn't read that. Anyway I think many sp's are going to be hurt by this. But on the plus side we might have a few more good members here on Cerb.:-) Oh also to Megforfun- I do agree with you, and yes I am very happy here. But I have in my experience met many wonderful women not always through this site. I like to give everyone a chance, and not stereotype someone because they were on a certain site.

 

:shock:Well some people might be happy that it is gone, but for me it is how I got into this hobby, and is like losing a part of it. I do not want to steer this thread in a different direction but I was wondering if there are any other sites that you can find out these services. Just because I like to keep many options open.

[Loralee Reach 245]

Jabba dear, I am proud of having you as a Cerbite fellow!

Thanks for your response to the peoplewho seems to accommodate so well!!!

There are many persons hurting out of the decision to close CL.

\lThanks for standing up!!!!!!!!

my BEST hug to you and Merry Christmas

loralee

[rick_falcon 911]

Heard before that it was coming but just saw the headline on Yahoo News.

Went to check and there it is: gone!

 

But I agree with some members that some ads just kept repeating themselves every 20 minutes or so...

[Lowdark 5613]

There may also be another benefit for some of the ladies. If places like CERB become the norm for people to look for SPs and MAs, then there is a good chance the ladies on this community can give each other a heads up about potentially bad clients and time wasters. The kind of guy who got away with stuff like that before on CL might only get away with it once or twice before word spread through places like CERB and he could essentially be weeded out. I've always thought that CERB was not only a way for hobbyiests to be aware of potential dangers and risks but for the ladies to watch each other's back as well.

[Alfie79 120]

Even though there are some members and sps here are disappointed to see it disappear, I am glad to see cl erotic section gone. Some of the ads were good while others were bad. It was not just about human trafficking or minors, but also bait and switch, scams, and fake photos uploaded from magazines, and download from the internet to lure clients into dangerous encounters. The mind games are finally over on that site.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

I understand the reasones that the section was pulled and I am glad to see it gone in that respec, but I have one major concern, we all should what will cowboy do...........................LOL

 

I use to look there throughout the night and see the interesting ads get posted and wonder how many were fakes, Like a soap something to do......in the middle of the night.

 

Don't worry about me jughead just because cl is gone doesn't mean there aren't scams to be exposed I just added two posts today about some "agencies" and their deceptive practices... the scammers and flakes that were on cl will find other venues and I'll be there to make sure they don't get away with anything.

 

As for money, I hardly do this for the money, my goal was to level the playing field for both clients and providers, filtering out the crap so to speak. I am happy to say that from "buy me a beer" purchases and ad revenue from banner ads since March of this year 20% was donated to 4 local charities, CHEO, The Humane Society, A local womens shelter and The United way. Thanks to your donations and my sponsors 425.00 was raised. Thank you for your continued support, drop by and watch how the diary evolves. Really there's no reason to go elsewhere than cerb, but if you must take the diary along as your companion while you shop.

[tidbits 869]

Where are all the ladies going to advertise?

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

Here- cerb.ca or the parent company http://www.escorts-canada.com both free and paid options are available.

[chavez 641]

I would say to the Mod, expect an influx of new members. I noticed a couple from CL have already joined us here and have posted. My prediction is that the postings in the Advertisement Section in each city (especially Winnipeg) will be non-stop.

 

I am not a CL detracter. Actually I have had as many good encounters from CL as anywhere. My only objection to CL was the ladies fighting there . This phenomina was a fairly recent thing in Manitoba and added nothing to the hobby.

Soleil is correct , there may be an influx of advertisers for a while on cerb. It may also restart an interrest in alternative sites of a regional interrest. Cl closeing doesn't stop things ; it opens new possibilities.....chavez

[blog10 283]

A couple of months ago I had heard rumours that the section would be removed. I?m not sure this move will achieve their desired effect but I guess they are trying to appease a small group of complainers.

[vanxander 328]

Any girl worth a damn is already on one of the 2 sites ck mentioned above. no great loss with CL being gone really.