Thoughts on rates?

[Amarralozano 1131]

Hello! I'm a fellow SP. I'm wondering from other SP's and people who see them. What're your thoughts on reasonable prices? What do you think is reasonable? Is cheaper always gross? Is expensive really worth it? What services do you think are reasonable?

[littleprincessemma 1512]

I know for me, I started with slightly lower prices in order to get the attention of clientele. As I have gotten more clients and now have a few regulars I have started to raise my prices.

I wouldn't say cheaper is always grosser but an SP that is doing 30mins for $60 is questionable to me. I have never asked for less that $100 for 30mins. I look at myself and believe my time is worth more than that but other SP's would feel differently about that. Maybe keeping your prices lower will help you have more clients asking for your time but I don't let every single person that sends me a message see me. Sleazy clients will go for cheaper prices, so as I raised my rates the sleazy people became less frequent.

Expensive is likely more worth it as a SP that is asking for a higher rate has likely been doing this longer, is more professional, and more mature. Not that every young SP is not professional or mature, I'm 19 and believe I have been as professional as I am capable of being in my dealings with my clientele, but as you gain more experience and a better reputation it is likely that your prices will rise.

[Leviathan31 8387]

From my experiences, here is what seems to be the price breakdown...

 

- The "going rate" is around 120/half hour......200/full hour.

- Some girls will offer shorter times.....usually around $100 for 20 mins or $60/80 for 10/15.

 

Now, a lot of SP's frown upon offering these short times because the stigma of offering anything for $60 seems "gross". I do know these "$60 specials" are actually quite popular - but it is literally more work for the SP. My guess is there isn't much talking going on during these sessions, so there could be just as much sex taking place as would happen in a 30 min (or even an hour) session, but you are having wayyy more sex for the same money.

 

There are also girls who offer 1/2 hour for $140 or $160, yet keep the hourly rate around $200. This makes less sense to me, as a client will be more likely to go for the hour session if it's only an additional $40-60.

 

A lot of the girls from Quebec cost a tad more - usually $160-180 for 30 minutes and around $260-280 per hour....but these ladies usually offer a true GFE. The highest price I've seen per hour was Vandyl Vixen, but that included EVERYTHING (including video) except unprotected full sex....and I mean everything.

 

There are some local girls who have rates in the high $200/$300 range - they offer a more complete GFE from what I hear. Mind you, there are a few girls who offer "full" GFE for the regular price (Kylie Jane, etc.).

 

 

Beyond the base price, I see girls offering GFE for an additional cost and even PSE for a bit more - usually around $40-60 for GFE and another $40-60 for PSE. This is why some locals are in the high $200/300 range, they offer both GFE/PSE in their price.

 

Some offer pics/video for an additional charge. I've seen pics offered for between $20-40 and vid for as low as $40 and as high as $200 (wayyyy too high, IMO).

 

 

Now.....I have always thought a "sliding price scale" may work in escorting. In other words, the SP can have a sliding price scale, based on time...and visa versa.

 

Basically, if a client asks about rates, the SP would simply ask how much they want to spend or how much time they want. I actually made up a chart for a friend a while back that used a mathematical formula to set the prices for basically ANY time between 15 minutes and up....and the prices are set based on the "...more time you want, the better the deal" theory.

 

This way, if a client wanted say 24 minutes or 48 minutes, etc. - the SP would have an exact price for that amount of time; or, conversely, a client said they wanted to spend $180 or $205, the SP would have an exact amount of time you can get for that price. :) :) :)

[Grass_Hopper 18263]

It is a very personal choice.

 

Rates are not only based on services, but also on expenses.

 

Let s say I pay 180$ for a hotel room, plus expenses, food, working accessories, sure I can t charge as low as a based sp, who has a regular rent...

 

On an another end, I include some special services, that would otherwise be an extra.

 

First, I would make a list of what makes me stand out of the other sps, and than, think about rates, what s included and what s not, the type of clientele you want to attract, circumstances...

 

I usually charge 140$ hh, 220$ fh, and get my usual clientele. With that kind of rates, I tend to attract blue collars which is perfect for me.

[Guest MelanieRose]

I am just starting and the hardest part for me to figure out is where to set my rates. I have been told my rates may be a little steep for somebody who is just starting out, but I plan on having my clientele very small. I like Emma's comment about having lower rates to attract potential clientele. That is a very good point, it truly is a personal choice.

[Brad 49548]

There are also girls who offer 1/2 hour for $140 or $160, yet keep the hourly rate around $200. This makes less sense to me, as a client will be more likely to go for the hour session if it's only an additional $40-60.

 

One thing to consider Leviathan in this part of your example is if the lady herself prefers hour-long sessions over 30 minute ones, that kind of price model is more likely to get gents to book the session time she likes.

 

 

To go back to the original question, there's never going to be one right answer here. I think some people have made generally good points over things to consider when making your price model, but ultimately I agree with GrassHopper that it comes down to what feels right for each lady, and no one can tell another how they need to run their business.

[Leviathan31 8387]

One thing to consider Leviathan in this part of your example is if the lady herself prefers hour-long sessions over 30 minute ones, that kind of price model is more likely to get gents to book the session time she likes.

 

Oh yea.....if the SP prefers the hour session, it's a deal. Just the small jump in price is what is slightly off....if you are offering a 1/2 hour for $140 or less, then $200 makes sense; but if you are in the $160-180 for a 1/2 hour range, then the hour should be higher than $200. But, like you said, if enticing gents to go for the full hour, the lower pricing makes sense. :)

[MelanieBunny 13390]

Personally, I don't like having hour long sessions so I simply do not offer them. Yes, it may mean more work in the long run... but that's okay with me. I only offer 15 and 30 minutes because that's what I am comfortable with.

 

$80 for 15, $140 for half an hour. Additional $30 for GFE.

 

** Speaking of GFE, Leviathan, you mentioned -true gfe- what exactly does that entail?

[Guest st*****ens**ors]

I tend not to interrogate rates terribly much, assuming each provider establishes a rate that is appropriate to their business model.

 

The only exception to that is the rock bottom pricing I see posted from time to time that suggests either a risky environment/encounter or the possible exploitation of the provider by a third party. There are other red flags for this last of course, like advertising no restrictions, 24/7 availability, party favors and so on.

[Leviathan31 8387]

** Speaking of GFE, Leviathan, you mentioned -true gfe- what exactly does that entail?

 

True GFE, IMO, includes bare oral, deep kissing, DATY, etc. Pretty much all the stuff you would do with a GF - minus the unprotected sex. :)

[littleprincessemma 1512]

True GFE, IMO, includes bare oral, deep kissing, DATY, etc. Pretty much all the stuff you would do with a GF - minus the unprotected sex. :)

 

I don't ever do bare oral. It's all just a preference of the SP but for me I won't ever do anything bare. However, deep kissing, DATY, and some other fun stuff are included in my GFE

[Taffer 2280]

I don't ever do bare oral. It's all just a preference of the SP but for me I won't ever do anything bare. However, deep kissing, DATY, and some other fun stuff are included in my GFE

 

Oh no! I guess you're not a "true" girlfriend experience :D

This is why expectations can be a problem, everyone has their own safe limits, and GFE doesn't mean anything in particular other than a less emotionally detached session.

[denpetty 1363]

What gets me is some sp who charges extra for gfe could add up to almost $200-$300 just for hh cause they charge so much for kissing, bbbj and daty. When they do that, I stop texting and never see them. I stick to the ones that includes it in their regular rate. The best one that offers this at a very reasonable rate is Kylie Jane.

[Guest st*****ens**ors]

True GFE, IMO, includes bare oral, deep kissing, DATY, etc. Pretty much all the stuff you would do with a GF - minus the unprotected sex. :)

 

If someone greets me with a smile and a hug, is eager to chat and exchange stories, and kisses me like she's glad I'm me and not someone else, my gfe hopes are realized. But that's just me ;)

[Leviathan31 8387]

If someone greets me with a smile and a hug, is eager to chat and exchange stories, and kisses me like she's glad I'm me and not someone else, my gfe hopes are realized. But that's just me ;)

 

I've had a lot of dirty GF's in the past I guess. lol

[BrettonWoods 4365]

Just my perspective. GFE, PSE etc. etc. are all terms defined in the mind of the person using them. They have no fixed meanings. Its not complicated and these terms don't really help in my view. The lady always decides what she will offer. The lady always decides how specific she will be in her advertisements and correspondence. (these days ads should not be specific, in my view) The lady always decides what she will charge. Client decides if he will pay that donation. When they meet nothing happens that is not with her full consent no matter what a website or ad says. Your hygiene, respect and behavior are the major factors in how she will interact with you. If the experience is satisfactory to the client then he may wish to repeat. If not then wish her well and seek someone that meets your needs/desires. Each interaction is unique. Accept that not all are going to work. Sorry, but in this business, yes do your research and find reliable ladies, but ultimately you have to take a chance too. She does on every first date. So I suggest that we abandon all these terms and realize that each provider is unique and focus on good direct communication with each unique provider.

[Guest 1***otd**]

I agree with Liviathan's take on "True GFE"

 

I would simply add that having an intense intimate connection with a lovely SP is important.

 

A heightened sexual chemistry is paramount in having a utopic sensual experience. I know a few beautiful members in our community who epitomize this.

 

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[Biker Dude 2398]

Fascinating discussion. I agree that the price is dependent on looks, age, services provided and all with overlay of the personal preference of the SP. But I also want the ladies to know that I am happy to pay a premium for a clean location and ease of arranging the date. There have been/are a lady or two that I have paid $300+/hour and a large part of why is because they answered my text or email in a timely manner and had either a nice private residence or upscale hotel room.

[Guest st*****ens**ors]

Hi Biker Dude. I have always appreciated your posts, but I am not sure I agree with the first bit of this one.

 

Is price dependant on age? Looks (deeply subjective this) ? Services provided? These don't correspond to what I've seen, or what I've seen appreciated.

 

Rates depend upon what a provider wishes to charge, for any reason, at her discretion. The success of her business model depends on whether clients think the experience they receive justifies the charge. Of course some providers would prefer to see just a handful of clients for whom they have a deep affinity.

 

However I agree that a clean, secure location and friendly correspondence matter.

 

Caveat: Rates should depend on what a provider wishes to charge and her preferred business model. If she has no say, there are other, more significant issues in the room.

 

Fascinating discussion. I agree that the price is dependent on looks, age, services provided and all with overlay of the personal preference of the SP. But I also want the ladies to know that I am happy to pay a premium for a clean location and ease of arranging the date. There have been/are a lady or two that I have paid $300+/hour and a large part of why is because they answered my text or email in a timely manner and had either a nice private residence or upscale hotel room.

[Midnite-Energies 110563]

It really is all a subjective thing. I've been doing this now for a few years and have a rate point that is considered different. I have been judged a number of times on this for a number of different reasons entirely based on my rate. I've also had to stand up for myself when the conversation turned to lower rate = lower class or substandard service. As has been said, ladies charge the rate they want for a variety of personal reasons one of which is sometimes because they can. It's their business and their right.

 

I DO believe that it shouldn't be a judgment point in the bigger scheme of research. If a lady is established, has recommendations, social media or website, interactions and favorable communications, why judge based on the most subjective of points. A rate should simply be "do I wish to pay that or not" and that takes in both high and lower points.

 

Protect yourself and enjoy your pleasures. Don't over complicate.

[GChrome 1272]

"lower class" or "substandard service" should NOT even be mentioned when you post or anyone even THINKS about posting about you ;)

 

 

 

It really is all a subjective thing. I've been doing this now for a few years and have a rate point that is considered different. I have been judged a number of times on this for a number of different reasons entirely based on my rate. I've also had to stand up for myself when the conversation turned to lower rate = lower class or substandard service. As has been said, ladies charge the rate they want for a variety of personal reasons one of which is sometimes because they can. It's their business and their right.

 

I DO believe that it shouldn't be a judgment point in the bigger scheme of research. If a lady is established, has recommendations, social media or website, interactions and favorable communications, why judge based on the most subjective of points. A rate should simply be "do I wish to pay that or not" and that takes in both high and lower points.

 

Protect yourself and enjoy your pleasures. Don't over complicate.

[Leviathan31 8387]

I see a lot of mention of "...what the lady decides to charge". This is great for established SP's who have experience and know what they offer and what it is worth.....but not all SP's have that experience.

 

I can tell you, in talking with quite a few SP's, I have mentioned their rates and how they don't seem to match up with the regular, expected rates (on average).

 

For instance, one girl I talked with charges wayyyy too much for her hour - based on what she charges for her 1/2 hour. Regardless your end price, it's a know thing that you get a better deal the longer you book, right? When I mentioned this to her - she was VERY interested in hearing what I had to say. She asked, "Do you think that is why I never get 1 hour calls?". Some girls just don't know/have the experience yet.

 

You would be surprised how many girls are working out there who really have no clue how to price. Not every girl starts escorting to build a business; some escort out of necessity, and, again, you would be surprised how many girls don't take the time to go through other SP's ads/research the business they are in.

 

One girl told me she texted a large group of other SP's (under the guise of hiring them as a male) to get a feel on what the going rates are out there - at least she put some effort in - a lot don't - they kinda just wing it.

 

I've told girls their prices are too high; and I've told girls their prices are too low. I try to give advice sometimes and amazingly enough, I have yet to have an SP "get mad at me" or tell me to mind my own business or politely say "Thank you - but I know what I'm doing". It seems any information you can provide them with is usually welcomed. Every girl I've mentioned rates to usually replies with the same thing......"THANK YOU!!!! I really had no clue". That is usually followed up with something like "I'm all alone in this - like, who do I ask???". If you think about it - there really isn't an "Escorting For Dummies" book or an "Escort Manual" that one can just pick up and go from there. You learn as you go.

 

There are a lot of girls who have no idea what Lyla is. There are a lot of girls who don't even know who their competition is. There are a lot of girls who are just starting out and have to figure it out alone or they just don't have the time/desire to be the best escort they can be.

 

It's not a surprise you will sometimes see wonky pricing....but if you sometimes go about it the right way and offer advice when it seems fit, it works out best for both parties in the end. :) :)

[Guest h***yto***2]

I see a lot of mention of "...what the lady decides to charge". This is great for established SP's who have experience and know what they offer and what it is worth.....but not all SP's have that experience.

 

I can tell you, in talking with quite a few SP's, I have mentioned their rates and how they don't seem to match up with the regular, expected rates (on average).

 

For instance, one girl I talked with charges wayyyy too much for her hour - based on what she charges for her 1/2 hour. Regardless your end price, it's a know thing that you get a better deal the longer you book, right? When I mentioned this to her - she was VERY interested in hearing what I had to say. She asked, "Do you think that is why I never get 1 hour calls?". Some girls just don't know/have the experience yet.

 

You would be surprised how many girls are working out there who really have no clue how to price. Not every girl starts escorting to build a business; some escort out of necessity, and, again, you would be surprised how many girls don't take the time to go through other SP's ads/research the business they are in.

 

One girl told me she texted a large group of other SP's (under the guise of hiring them as a male) to get a feel on what the going rates are out there - at least she put some effort in - a lot don't - they kinda just wing it.

 

I've told girls their prices are too high; and I've told girls their prices are too low. I try to give advice sometimes and amazingly enough, I have yet to have an SP "get mad at me" or tell me to mind my own business or politely say "Thank you - but I know what I'm doing". It seems any information you can provide them with is usually welcomed. Every girl I've mentioned rates to usually replies with the same thing......"THANK YOU!!!! I really had no clue". That is usually followed up with something like "I'm all alone in this - like, who do I ask???". If you think about it - there really isn't an "Escorting For Dummies" book or an "Escort Manual" that one can just pick up and go from there. You learn as you go.

 

There are a lot of girls who have no idea what Lyla is. There are a lot of girls who don't even know who their competition is. There are a lot of girls who are just starting out and have to figure it out alone or they just don't have the time/desire to be the best escort they can be.

 

It's not a surprise you will sometimes see wonky pricing....but if you sometimes go about it the right way and offer advice when it seems fit, it works out best for both parties in the end. :) :)

One would think the half hour to hour ratio in price setting shouldn't be that difficult to figure out. But I suppose......

[Leviathan31 8387]

One would think the half hour to hour ratio in price setting shouldn't be that difficult to figure out. But I suppose......

 

Ya'd think, eh? :)

[nntsci 11076]

Price depends on Location. In downtown Toronto the going rate down town for an hour is between 240 and 300 for an hour, and a bit of a break on 2 hours etc.

 

I personally avoid half hour session because of disappointing experiences...