Demand For Male Doms?

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

I have not read the whole thread admittedly. I was a little taken back by the OP and huge misconceptions at play in his first post.

 

However, I will say this.....

 

There is no demand for sex work from men by women, because that is not what rules us. I am sure one of the many brilliant ladies have already stated that.

 

Just a couple of my own personal ramblings over my coffee break.....

 

For true Dom work, from a professional male dom to female civie sub, there is more trust required then a regular civie relationship. At least for what I want. So I will not be paying a stranger (who is twice as strong as me) to tie me down and blind fold me. Sorry but it just ain't happening. That is not even adding in anything to do with pain play, or even just minor things like spanking, etc.

 

I learned you can't even always trust a BF with this stuff as one thought he would see what my nipples would do when he took scissors to them. He was cutting away clothing, which was fine and agreed too, but I guess the extra wine we had made him think "hmmm... I wonder...." So that was the last time I was blindfolded with him and we were together for 7 years at that point.

 

Women have trust issues that supersede their sexual fantasies, men don't. Now I know my case extreme but the taboo surrounding men in the hobby would be even worse for a woman. Most women I have met have a hard time opening themselves up completely to their sexual wants and desires because society has told them for centuries that women who like sex are sluts. You want them to start paying for that exploration now... LOL - Sorry, but we need to get out of the women liking sex = slut first. Just as a start.

 

Then women need to feel the need for sex or sexual experiences like men seem to "need" it.

 

Thennnnnnn.... women need to get turned down freely for it

 

 

Thennnnnnnnnn...... maybe there will be a higher market. MAYBE...LOL

[Taffer 2280]

I have always thought that the requirements of escorting in terms of the emotional and energy costs of intimacy, risk on a number of levels, social stigma, and lack of benefits really justifies high wages.

 

One of the other requirements is dealing with bullshit. No shows, stalkers, negotiators, people who test restrictions, the judgemental, the cruel and the vindictive - - providers encounter more than their share of these.

 

Many of the posts in this thread are excellent examples of the bullshit they put up with, and which justify every penny of what they choose to charge.

 

 

Edited to add: I just read the post previous to mine, posted as I was typing. This has moved from argument to abuse and should be cut off.

 

Meanwhile men are risking their lives in dangerous jobs actually doing physical work for far lower wages. No the job doesn't justify the really high wages. The reason escorts are so expensive is because men have a very high sex drive and women are naturally inclined to take advantage of it. Men are providers, women are black holes for resources.

 

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Crash and burns are always predictable... I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly. Thanks for proving me right , Taffer. Best of luck to you and the palm sisters.

 

There's always another escort.

 

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I have no read the whole thread admittedly. I was a little taken back by the OP and huge misconceptions at play in his first post.

 

However, I will say this.....

 

There is no demand for sex work from men by women, because that is not what rules us. I am sure one of the many brilliant ladies have already stated that.

 

Just a couple of my own personal ramblings over my coffee break.....

 

For true Dom work, from a professional male dom to female civie sub, there is more trust required then a regular civie relationship. At least for what I want. So I will not be paying a stranger (who is twice as strong as me) to tie me down and blind fold me. Sorry but it just ain't happening. That is not even adding in anything to do with pain play, or even just minor things like spanking, etc.

 

I learned you can't even always trust a BF with this stuff as one thought he would see what my nipples would do when he took scissors to them. He was cutting away clothing, which was fine and agreed too, but I guess the extra wine we had made him think "hmmm... I wonder...." So that was the last time I was blindfolded with him and we were together for 7 years at that point.

 

Women have trust issues that supersede their sexual fantasies, men don't. Now I know my case extreme but the taboo surrounding men in the hobby would be even worse for a woman. Most women I have met have a hard time opening themselves up completely to their sexual wants and desires because society has told them for centuries that women who like sex are sluts. You want them to start paying for that exploration now... LOL - Sorry, but we need to get out of the women liking sex = slut first. Just as a start.

 

Then women need to feel the need for sex or sexual experiences like men seem to "need" it.

 

Thennnnnnn.... women need to get turned down freely for it

 

 

Thennnnnnnnnn...... maybe there will be a higher market. MAYBE...LOL

 

No, we just need women to start taking equal responsibility for the privileged position they hold in society. Women have a natural advantage due to the male sex drive, whereas women are seemingly just as happy with a vibrator. The fact that you can separate men from their wealth with far less effort than they put into earning it is called "privilege". Women seem to be incredibly adept at either not seeing or not admitting to their own privilege, because then they wouldn't be showered with so much sympathy and free handouts.

 

We've taken the red pill, we are mgtow, we are awake to your games, to your mind tricks. Even now you are all trying to twist my words in the op and play innocent. I called it as it is, you are making a lot of money for significantly less work than many other people in similar trades. A little appreciation of that obvious fact would be appreciated, but instead you want to take my money and tell me that you have it so hard in life. You can have it one way, or the other, if you are going to open your legs to take an easy path in life, don't get all butt hurt when people call it for what it is.

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

Meanwhile men are risking their lives in dangerous jobs actually doing physical work for far lower wages. No the job doesn't justify the really high wages. The reason escorts are so expensive is because men have a very high sex drive and women are naturally inclined to take advantage of it. Men are providers, women are black holes for resources.

 

 

 

WOW!!!!! Rude much..... Seriously - I am a black hole for recourses. Please tell me you are just having a bad day, because I could to explain how I have given soooooo much more then I have taken from this world with the added disdain for men as you have shown all women, but I am classier then that.

 

That is not even getting into the job {where women equally risk their lives as fire personal, police, army, etc.,}the wages, or any other bunch of BS you posted.

 

 

No, we just need women to start taking equal responsibility for the privileged position they hold in society. Women have a natural advantage due to the male sex drive, whereas women are seemingly just as happy with a vibrator. The fact that you can separate men from their wealth with far less effort than they put into earning it is called "privilege". Women seem to be incredibly adept at either not seeing or not admitting to their own privilege, because then they wouldn't be showered with so much sympathy and free handouts.

 

We've taken the red pill, we are mgtow, we are awake to your games, to your mind tricks. Even now you are all trying to twist my words in the op and play innocent. I called it as it is, you are making a lot of money for significantly less work than many other people in similar trades. A little appreciation of that obvious fact would be appreciated, but instead you want to take my money and tell me that you have it so hard in life. You can have it one way, or the other, if you are going to open your legs to take an easy path in life, don't get all butt hurt when people call it for what it is.

 

 

Well never mind - I will just politely explain.

 

1. I am a self-made woman with my own very successful mainstream business and enjoy sex work so that I don't have men wanting everything I have. I am not taking the risk of losing even 25% of income and wealth over a relationship, let alone 50%. I am smart.

 

2. The donation require is a boundary for me just as it is for you in a NSA relationship and that is what works for me and keeps my high sex drive in full enjoyment.

 

3. Most women are happy with a vibrator because it does the job better, faster and without complaint.

 

Have a great day, if you can with that miserable attitude on life.

[Taffer 2280]

WOW!!!!! Rude much..... Seriously - I am a black hole for recourses. Please tell me you are just having a bad day, because I could to explain how I have given soooooo much more then I have taken from this world with the added disdain for men as you have shown all women, but I am classier then that.

 

That is not even getting into the job {where women equally risk their lives as fire personal, police, army, etc.,}the wages, or any other bunch of BS you posted.

 

 

 

 

 

Well never mind - I will just politely explain.

 

1. I am a self made woman and enjoy sex work so that I don't have men wanting everything I have. I am not taking the risk of losing even 25% of income and wealth over a relationship. I am smart.

 

2. The donation require is a boundary for me just as it is for you in a NSA relationship and that is what works for me and keeps my high sex drive in full enjoyment.

 

3. Most women are happy with a vibrator because it does the job better, faster and without complaint.

 

Have a great day, if you can with that miserable attitude on life.

 

Selling the most obvious thing of value you have to the highest bidder is not "smart", it is the exact opposite of making a positive contribution to the world, it's called greed and entitlement.

 

Yes there are female police, fire fighters, etc, these women I have respect for (provided they actually have the physical strength for the job), because they are providing something useful to society in the first place rather than something that women should be sharing with men at no additional cost.

 

The world is falling apart, and it's precisely because women don't know when to stop taking, and men don't know when to stop giving. There was a time when women actually had to provide something other than a wet hole to bring value to a relationship. You are not smart for dodging any and all responsibility and taking advantage of high male sex drive, you are just taking advantage of desperate people and providing little lasting value in return.

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

Selling the most obvious thing of value you have to the highest bidder is not "smart", it is the exact opposite of making a positive contribution to the world, it's called greed and entitlement.

 

Yes there are female police, fire fighters, etc, these women I have respect for (provided they actually have the physical strength for the job), because they are providing something useful to society in the first place rather than something that women should be sharing with men at no additional cost.

 

The world is falling apart, and it's precisely because women don't know when to stop taking, and men don't know when to stop giving. There was a time when women actually had to provide something other than a wet hole to bring value to a relationship. You are not smart for dodging any and all responsibility and taking advantage of high male sex drive, you are just taking advantage of desperate people and providing little lasting value in return.

 

 

I employ people and am responsible for their financial lifestyle. That ain't greed and entitlement buddy. I was not taking about sex work. I was talking about my mainstream job. I don't escort because I have to. I escort because I like NSA sex and don't want to be roped into a relationship with a leech. Which has been my experience. I have dated guys who make double my 6 figures and yet I am paying for everything so I can prove I am not a gold digger. So I got smartER and started charging for my time and getting a good ol' banging in the process. Nothing like it in the world, so I get why you are jealous of my vagina.

 

But since you think sex is owed to you, there is no point in discussing anything further. That is just wrong on so many levels, I can't even think of where to begin.

[Katherine of Halifax 113932]

Taffer, you inititially asked for tips and advice . Ladies and gentlemen have responded .

Now you are becoming insulting and extremely rude. It's time to stop.

[Taffer 2280]

I employ people and am responsible for their financial lifestyle. That ain't greed and entitlement buddy. I was not taking about sex work. I was talking about my mainstream job. I don't escort because I have to. I escort because I like NSA sex and don't want to be roped into a relationship with a leech. Which has been my experience. I have dated guys who make double my 6 figures and yet I am paying for everything so I can prove I am not a gold digger. So I got smartER and started charging for my time and getting a good ol' banging in the process. Nothing like it in the world, so I get why you are jealous of my vagina.

 

But since you think sex is owed to you, there is no point in discussing anything further. That is just wrong on so many levels, I can even think of where to begin.

 

Doesn't like guys who don't pay their own way, decides to become a woman who doesn't pay her own way...female logic in a nutshell.

 

You employ people, which means you benefit from their work, what percentage of the wealth do you take for yourself? Is it an equal amount to what you pay each employee, or do you feel "entitled" to more because you are supposedly "smart" enough to run a business?

 

I don't think sex is owed to me, I think it should be a mutually beneficial activity. What the fuck part of that is difficult for you to grasp? Do you think money/resources are just "owed" to you because you happen to have a vagina?

 

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Taffer, you inititially asked for tips and advice . Ladies and gentlemen have responded .

Now you are becoming insulting and extremely rude. It's time to stop.

 

Fair enough, this is starting to become tedious, and I think the point has been made.

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

Doesn't like guys who don't pay their own way, decides to become a woman who doesn't pay her own way...female logic in a nutshell.

 

I don't think sexed is owed to me, I think it should be a mutually beneficial activity. What the fuck part of that is difficult for you to grasp?

 

 

It is mutually beneficial. In your own words, women like money - men like sex. Both are getting what they want. No????

 

And again, since when do I not pay my own way? I have always paid my own way. When I was 15, living on my own, going to high school and working FT so I did not go on welfare. I was paying my way and the way of children without child support for their entire childhood's and still pay out more then dear ol' dad now that they are young adults. I have paid through cash, education, blood, sweat and tears for my corporation, that then pays out its employees. I have no shareholders, I am the sole owner. I pay my taxes on that AND my sex work. Why? Because people are dumb to not pay taxes with all the benefits that it can afford you if done right.

 

And yes I charge for my time now with gentlemen. It is actually discounted considering my mainstream work rate for my time. Imagine that, who'd a thunk eh?

 

So get off your high horse bub - seriously. Or go buy a vagina and become a female sex worker instead of being jelly of mine.

[Guest st*****ens**ors]

This is misogyny, displayed in all its ugliness, from a young man with very limited world experience and whose posts read increasingly as the product of a narcissist. There is neither point nor profit in parsing out the statements he makes for rebuttal.

 

I am deeply grateful for the women in my life, including those few providers with whom I have shared lovely moments. Each has given me more than I could have hoped to expect.

 

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The world is falling apart, and it's precisely because women don't know when to stop taking, and men don't know when to stop giving. There was a time when women actually had to provide something other than a wet hole to bring value to a relationship. You are not smart for dodging any and all responsibility and taking advantage of high male sex drive, you are just taking advantage of desperate people and providing little lasting value in return.

[Taffer 2280]

It is mutually beneficial. In your own words, women like money - men like sex. Both are getting what they want. No????

 

And again, since when do I not pay my own way? I have always paid my own way. When I was 15, living on my own, going to high school and working FT so I did not go on welfare. I was paying my way and the way of children without child support for their entire childhood's and still pay out more then dear ol' dad now that they are young adults. I have paid through cash, education, blood, sweat and tears for my corporation, that then pays out its employees. I have no shareholders, I am the sole owner. I pay my taxes on that AND my sex work. Why? Because people are dumb not to pay taxes with all the benefits that it can afford you if done right.

 

So get off your high horse bub - seriously. Or go buy a vagina and become a female sex worker instead of being jelly of mine.

 

So you pay taxes, just for the benefits, how exactly is that benefiting anyone aside from yourself?

Sounds like you are just running a typically corrupt corporation, colluding with the government to steal wealth from those who line your pockets.

 

Men don't want to pay ridiculously high $ for your "time", many of us don't have a choice. Just because you are getting your rocks off and lining your pockets at the same time doesn't mean it is "mutually beneficial".

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

So you pay taxes, just for the benefits, how exactly is that benefiting anyone?

Sounds like you are just running a typically corrupt corporation colluding with the government to steal wealth from those who line your pockets.

 

Wow - you really are out to lunch.

 

Who benefits from all the money I pay the government in my taxes???? Really??? You need to ask that?

 

as for your overly false accusation of my business, that is just a pathetic attempt to big up yourself when you have clearly met your match.

 

 

Men don't want to pay ridiculously high $ for your "time", many of us don't have a fucking choice. Just because you are getting your rocks off and lining your pockets at the same time doesn't mean it is "mutually beneficial".

 

I am sorry you were born without T&A, sucks I know.

[Taffer 2280]

Wow - you really are out to lunch.

 

Who benefits from all the money I pay the government in my taxes???? Really??? You need to ask that?

 

as for your overly false accusation of my business, that is just a pathetic attempt to big up yourself when you have clearly met your match.

 

 

 

I am sorry you were born without T&A, sucks I know.

 

I'm not seeing a lot of T&A there, are they buried somewhere beneath the F&B?

 

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This is misogyny, displayed in all its ugliness, from a young man with very limited world experience and whose posts read increasingly as the product of a narcissist. There is neither point nor profit in parsing out the statements he makes for rebuttal.

 

I am deeply grateful for the women in my life, including those few providers with whom I have shared lovely moments. Each has given me more than I could have hoped to expect.

 

Misogyny defined in the Mgtow Dictionary:

The act of possessing male genitalia and/or holding rational/logical points of view.

 

You are pathetically whipped my friend, just look at us free men living our sad lives, we don't even have chains :( You still open doors long after women have stopped holding up their end of the bargain that is chivalry. Self sacrifice is very sad.

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

I'm not seeing a lot of T&A there, are they buried somewhere beneath the F&B?

 

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Misogyny defined in the Mgtow Dictionary:

 

The act of possessing male genitalia and/or holding rational/logical points of view.

 

 

I think most people use the actual Webster's dictionary, but you are completely entitled to go down the coo-coo rabbit hole.

 

We just don't have to go down with you. Or at least I don't. I am happy with my life, you are not. There are reasons why, and vagina is not the issue on either of our sides. Just sayin'.

 

I leave you to your little thread now. You can't afford the time I have spent on this thread and nothing in life is free.

 

Good bye and good luck to sir.

[Taffer 2280]

I think most people use the actual Webster's dictionary, but you are completely entitled to go down the coo-coo rabbit hole.

 

We just don't have to go down with you. Or at least I don't. I am happy with my life, you are not. There are reasons why, and vagina is not issue on either of our sides. Just sayin'

 

Why do you assume I am not happy with my life? It's a beautiful day, I'm engaged in amusing conversation, might take the kayak out for a trip on the lake. What in the world is there to be unhappy about? Sure it would be nice to be able to have sex without bending over backwards for a woman, but I'm not going to let entitled princesses ruin my day ;)

 

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You can't afford the time I have spent on this thread and nothing in life is free.

 

Of course, we wouldn't want you to just be giving it away, your "time" is inherently more valuable than mine what with the cock and balls dangling between my legs. Let me go tend the fields for a few days so as I can afford an hour of mistress's precious time :biggrin:

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

I am sad.... So very sad!

[Taffer 2280]

I am sad.... So very sad!

 

Cheer up! Princesses shouldn't be sad ;)

[Lephturn 2649]

You are pathetically whipped my friend, just look at us free men living our sad lives, we don't even have chains :( You still open doors long after women have stopped holding up their end of the bargain that is chivalry. Self sacrifice is very sad.

 

Wow. I can't even... just stop. Stop blaming women for your problems. I won't even address the idiocy of blaming women for the world's problems when the world is and has been run by men exclusively.

 

As a white male I understand the privilege I was born into. If that makes me "whipped" in your eyes then that is a great compliment. Call me a whipped self sacrificing idiot who actually respects women and sees them as human beings. Please.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Cheer up! Princesses shouldn't be sad ;)

 

Well she does have a crown next to her name above and so do I. We are definitely princesses in our right. Lol. Honey you belong on the red pill site over on Reddit. You will have more sympathy from the women haters over there. Have a wonderful weekend!

[Taffer 2280]

Wow. I can't even... just stop. Stop blaming women for your problems. I won't even address the idiocy of blaming women for the world's problems when the world is and has been run by men exclusively.

 

As a white male I understand the privilege I was born into. If that makes me "whipped" in your eyes then that is a great compliment. Call me a whipped self sacrificing idiot who actually respects women and sees them as human beings. Please.

 

Not at all white knight, rest assured "men" like you with no interest in self preservation are equally to blame for the privilege that women currently enjoy. Women wouldn't have such privilege if there weren't white knights such as yourself to pander to them and kiss the ground they walk on. I see women as human beings as well. The majority are privileged human beings, who have little to no interest in recognizing that men face inequalities as well, but humans none the less.

 

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Well she does have a crown next to her name above and so do I. We are definitely princesses in our right. Lol. Honey you belong on the red pill site over on Reddit. You will have more sympathy from the women haters over there. Have a wonderful weekend!

 

Not at all, we don't hate women, we just aren't going to let you shove that blue pill down our throats. Your statement is the same as any other woman who recognizes that she cannot control a man, quite predictable ;)

 

Have a wonderful weekend as well, princess!

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

Don't feed the trolls people.

[Taffer 2280]

Don't feed the trolls people.

 

Nah but in all seriousness, trolling would imply that I am in some way disingenuous, nothing could be further from the truth. All of my statements are my unfiltered, truthful, and unbiased observations of female behavior in a gynocentric society ;)

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

Don't feed the trolls people.

 

I finally put him on ignore. Got to love a world where women have choices.

[Guest st*****ens**ors]

I am sad.... So very sad!

 

The views expressed by Taffer aren't even representative of the standard male chauvinist, let alone real men.

 

That someone like this walked through the forum with muddy feet might give you a momentary pang of nausea, but he really doesn't matter enough to merit sadness.

 

And if treating women with courtesy and kindness, and acknowledging their profound and innate value as people makes me a white knight, then lemme dig up some chainmail. I'll wear the name happily.

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

Don't be sad, Meg. The views expressed by Taffer aren't even representative of the standard male chauvinist, let alone real men.

 

That someone like this walked through the forum with muddy feet might give you a momentary pang of nausea, but he really doesn't matter enough to merit sadness.

 

And if treating women with courtesy and kindness, and acknowledging their profound and innate value as people makes me a white knight, then lemme dig up some chainmail. I'll wear the name happily.

 

It is a hard road that men like you walk. Just like some of us woman who are looked at like we are drooling for a man's wallet, when reality is completely different.

 

There are great men and women out there. It truly is a great time to be had by all when those great men meet up with those great women.

 

My neighbours might not agree because of the noise but .... LOL. ;-)

[Taffer 2280]

It is a hard road that men like you walk. Just like some of us woman who are looked at like we are drooling for a man's wallet, when reality is completely different.

 

There are great men and women out there. It truly is a great time to be had by all when those great men meet up with those great women.

 

My neighbours might not agree because of the noise but .... LOL. ;-)

 

If the reality is completely different, than why not offer your time free of charge.... LOL ;)