Drive By BBBJ

[mod 135640]

I would normally delete posts like the ones stever61 made here as I too find these comments to be inappropriate and I would usually comment on my distaste but since Cat made a reply that clearly shows a service providers perspective of a comment like this before I got the chance to delete stever61's post .... I have decided that I am going to leave the full thread for all to review.

 

Some of you don't seam to understand how things come to be. The girls on the street are not doing this as a profession to become rich or because it's the job they have always wanted and the most certainly don't give these services away so cheaply because they want you to be happy!! They do it because they have to. If you think they like having you CIM for 60.00 then you are so far out of reality you should have yourself committed.

 

They do this because it's a way to put food on the table, or feed a child or worst case (and way too often the case) many do it to pay for a drug or alcohol addiction. The ladies on the street do it out of necessity and not because they like it! Unfortunately many people do not see the difference between a street walker and a escort. Sure they both sell sexual services for money but that does not make them the same in ANY way.

 

The FEW ladies who leave the street scene and turn into legitimate escorts should be commended as that is often not the case. They often are met with drugs, crime, sickness and it's often just a downward spiral when they work the streets so if someone like this lady finds a way to get herself off the street and develops a better business and a better way of life then she deserves the better rates and perks that the other escorts receive.

 

Few have found a way off the street (into a safer environment and a healthier environment) and few find a way to survive without the many hardships and the daily hell the street walkers often have to live with.

 

I think dreamer recognized that she was not an average street worker when he met her and shared her contact info with you all. Sounds like she was doing it out of necessity and has now found a way to get off the streets. Maybe she did not have the resources to become a established escort (advertising costs money) and now she is in a position to do so.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

Dearest Cat,

 

As always your words are wise and so eloquently put together to allow the theater of the mind to visualize the scenes you recite in surround sound Technicolor. So real you can feel the emotion, sense the passion and in the case taste the slime.

 

Kudos to you for taking the time to defend this woman and offering to take her under your wing. You are a class act.

 

I sort of understand the point Stever61 was trying to make, but sadly the point was lost in the translation or so it would seem. I'm sure he meant no harm.

[cat 262460]

Darling CK,

 

You sir, are a true gentleman. Thank you for your words, once again showing why you now carry close to 60% of the votes tonight! Looks like a shoe-in, and I can't think of anyone more deserving, (except dummpy, whom I hold a very biased opinion towards!) and when it's all said and done we'll celebrate!

 

On a more serious note, I know that this thread has been gold for Eve, and I didn't mean to quash the thread with my posts. I know there are many very good clients here for her, and by all means, keep up the positive input. I just wanted everyone to remember that she is above all a person and should be treated as such. To everyone who sent a PM, thank you.

 

Sincerely,

 

Catherine

[badog 310]

OK, curiosity now totally piqued. Can you PM me Eve's number pls Dreamer?

thanks

 

Cat,

 

 

I talked to Eve last night and she is charging what she wants too but at the same time everything is negotiable.

[dreamer8 510]

Badog,

 

PM Sent

[TRman 536]

Is Eve still in the business?

[babybambi 99]

is that your real pic?

[d*mm*y 887]

is that your real pic?

 

:D it's a double standard we expect the ladies to post real pics but us guys make a joke about ours!! accept me of course but you already know that that is my real pic!!

[rick_falcon 911]

Yes, Eve is still in the business.

 

I noticed her a few times in the shout box. Or PM her for her availability.

[Dash (No longer a member) 102]

Sounds like a great catch! :)

[Marbre26 200]

Hi dreamer8... am new and would like to get her number please... Will definetly be on this board more often...

[d*mm*y 887]

Hi dreamer8... am new and would like to get her number please... Will definetly be on this board more often...

 

Just pm her she is a member here, Dreamer was finished with this post 4 months ago.

[bjqueen-eve 100]

It's been a while since i read through this thread. Most likely everyone knows that I took off for a couple of months. During these few months I had forgotten the intensity of Cats post. I was amazed that she was able to explain how most SP's think and feel, but are never able to say. She was absolutly correct in saying that it can break your spirit. It effects your soul, your mind. The effects it can have on your "self" can make it so that Some SP's are never able to go on to live a "normal life" afterwards. The guilt, and shame turn inwards and can become self hatred. So how can you say that were not worth $60.00. How can something that has the potential to be so hurtfull, be worth nothing?

Sorry about that, and to reassure everyone I'm still okay. I haven't lost it yet. (lol) It's just that I can understand how someone might feel.

[d*mm*y 887]

It's been a while since i read through this thread. Most likely everyone knows that I took off for a couple of months. During these few months I had forgotten the intensity of Cats post. I was amazed that she was able to explain how most SP's think and feel, but are never able to say. She was absolutly correct in saying that it can break your spirit. It effects your soul, your mind. The effects it can have on your "self" can make it so that Some SP's are never able to go on to live a "normal life" afterwards. The guilt, and shame turn inwards and can become self hatred. So how can you say that were not worth $60.00. How can something that has the potential to be so hurtfull, be worth nothing?

Sorry about that, and to reassure everyone I'm still okay. I haven't lost it yet. (lol) It's just that I can understand how someone might feel.

 

It does take a piece of your soul every time you see someone, no question about that. The majority of member here want to be fair and ensure that the experience is mutually satisfying. I know I for one always try to give back that piece that the SP gives, you have my undying love and admiration and I thank you and appreciate you for the gifts that bring to the members of this board, from the bottom of my heart. At the same time some members here are broken as well and need you dig deep and find your inner nurturer and take pity on them, they have also been beaten and torn apart and abused not in the asme way you have been that is for sure, but an over bearing Boss who says they are no good and on the verge of being fired, a father that told them all there lives your no good or an absent father or mother. When I look in the eyes of a stranger and try to walk a few steps in their shoes I always start by pictureing them as a 4 year old, and then go from there. What trials and tribulations did this person go through to become the person they are today, how can I help them. We are all far more similar than we want to admit.

[Dreamgirl 246]

i might be wrong but I dont feel like someone is taking any piece of my soul, i feel more like I take some of them .

[PistolPete 61421]

i might be wrong but I dont feel like someone is taking any piece of my soul, i feel more like I take some of them .

 

Sweetheart, you can take a piece of my soul and anything else...anytime:-D

[d*mm*y 887]

i might be wrong but I dont feel like someone is taking any piece of my soul, i feel more like I take some of them .

 

You are one of the lucky ones, you have a tremendous gift and that is why I am so attracted to you! It is all in the attitude and motivation, and Julie you have the perfect combination!

[bjqueen-eve 100]

I do agree that not only Sp's can be broken. This is why I want everyone to leave me with a smile on thier face. I should be a break in the numb drumb, I am here to provide relief and pleasure. Life on both sides isn't always roses.

[mod 135640]

Bad client experiences and dangerous encounters can break even the most grounded providers spirit and if the provider is having a moral dilemma about being involved in the business then she will probably feel remorse and guilt as well and have a moral battle going on in her head.

 

Shame is also borough on by this moral battle. Most of us are brought up to think prostitution is wrong and sex out of wedlock is a sin ... etc... etc... so many people have a real hard battle with this.

 

Really no one here should ever look down on you as a provider for what you do. If someone does then they have their own issues to deal with as they need to pick on someone to make themselves feel like a better person. You provide a very needed service!

 

It's your body and your choice to do with it as you want.

 

If you set your price and some asshole says your not worth that then he is not a client you want. He is trying to beat down your self esteem or is just really cheap (Either way he is a bad person - much like the high school bully).

 

You should laugh it off and move on! Realize he is just a cheap asshole who has no respect for you or the industry. Wash your hands of people like that and don't let them get to you.

 

If you are fighting some moral issues about being in the business then you will burn yourself out as well. Be proud of what you do, stand up for yourself and hold your ground.

 

If you let people take advantage of you they will... it's human nature.

[bjqueen-eve 100]

Very well said!!

[hobster 100]

You know, in the end, this comes down to the following:

 

1) SP, what do you feel you are worth? and what type of economics are you dealing with and are you enjoying yourself? is it important to you that your client is enjoying himself/herself?

 

2) HB, how much do you have to spend? can you recognize an honest good service when you get it and do you know how to be fair to the SP you are getting service from?

 

Respect is all that matters here.

 

Of course, it's best when both parties are having fun, so, SPs, when you are making a person feel rushed, in the end, you are only hurting yourself, because you will not be called upon again.

 

and HBs, know that you may be lonely, or horny or both, but the SP is paid to do this, so, you know, there is a fine line between no rush and hogging her time.

 

Bottom line, again, communication line need to be open. SP, say what you are providing, clarity is important, so, service, time, etc.. and HB when you accept the deal, know that there is a clock. Assume YVMV will not work for you on the clock deal, that way, if the SP stays longer, consider it a compliment.

 

Oh and in my honest opinion, SP's, don't ask for a tip. When you make a deal, stick to it. If the HB wishes to give you one, it's a compliment, not a requirement or an expectation.

[loneskater 25635]

I like to give as much as I receive. My approach has always been that this is a business and it is not the business or work that makes a person who he/she is and I don't judge others by what they do. I do my upmost to treat the ladies with respect, and from some of my previous posts, I think I made that fact well known on this board. When I decide to see a new SP/MP, I am always thinking that I will be repeating because I go to my meeting with the mindset that it will be another fantastic experience and I will truly enjoy myself. First and foremost for me is the idea that I am going to meet another amazing woman. And this planet would be boring without them.

 

This is all about mutual respect.

[PistolPete 61421]

I like to give as much as I receive. My approach has always been that this is a business and it is not the business or work that makes a person who he/she is and I don't judge others by what they do. I do my upmost to treat the ladies with respect, and from some of my previous posts, I think I made that fact well known on this board. When I decide to see a new SP/MP, I am always thinking that I will be repeating because I go to my meeting with the mindset that it will be another fantastic experience and I will truly enjoy myself. First and foremost for me is the idea that I am going to meet another amazing woman. And this planet would be boring without them.

 

This is all about mutual respect.

 

 

Yes well said....mutual respect...friendship is key, afterall these fine ladies like Eve are giving their heart and soul to us, so be kind and treat them always with the greatest respect!

[dreamer8 510]

is that your real pic?

sorry was that a question for me?

 

The threesome pic is not of me but it perfectly represents my tastes and attitude.

[sexnonstop724 1727]

Thank you for the appointment today. I enjoyed your company and the chat we had. I believe your situation will improve soon. And I hope everyone will treat you with respect. I think you are beautiful outside and inside. And you are worth more than what you give yourself credit for.