Bare sex and low baler!

[HarleyMay 2108]

Hi lady and gent,

Is it me or low baler and people asking for bare sex is more and more frequent?

Is it me who is becoming less patient or it becoming a real problem? Just today I block 5 person from asking bare sex or/and barging...on top of people not reading ad !!! Sorry guess just need to vent a little.

[Gregsand 6116]

I understand your frustration. But the reason some men ask, is because some ladies are open to negotiation and UNSAFE OFFERINGS is sadly not as rare it should be.

 

Both sides need to share the blame.

[HarleyMay 2108]

For sure both side are to blame the problem is it becoming too frequent that what I am saying. Is there that many lady offering it ? Cause looking on how much they push it and pay for it it look like most women say no ...I mean for ****. And you should wonder about a few thing if she open to lower your donation...

[WhereIRoam 21825]

Regardless of the percentage of Punters who seek this act or the percentage of Providers who offer it the issue still exists. How the issue came about, whether it being offered or being asked for, is irrelevant. The same could be said about asking for or offering lower rates, the issue still exists. The need to wonder about a Provider who is willing to lower her rates is subjective, we all have our opinions and we are not in said person's shoes. In short, all Punters and all Providers have different standards, judging is easy and this hobby is far from truly being self regulated.

[Gregsand 6116]

And you should wonder about a few thing if she open to lower your donation...

 

Depends on the circumstances. If I never met her before and she accepts, it's definitely a red flag. But if I met her a few times before, it's more likely she wants to make it an arrangement.

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

I simply do not understand why anyone who would want to meet someone who would want to offer an unsafe service nor someone who would devalue themselves by offering themselves by negotiating their advertised rates. Yes....red flags! But if certain punters are willing to take the risk then these women will continue this dangerous practice and expect the rest of us to conform. It's simple...block the jerks who contact yòu that do not have respect for what you offer and move on. I know it's frustrating and I understand your plight but some people just need to push the boundaries to feel that they àre in control. Sad.

[Guest J**ck*9]

I simply do not understand why anyone who would want to meet someone who would want to offer an unsafe service nor someone who would devalue themselves by offering themselves by negotiating their advertised rates. Yes....red flags! But if certain punters are willing to take the risk then these women will continue this dangerous practice and expect the rest of us to conform. It's simple...block the jerks who contact yòu that do not have respect for what you offer and move on. I know it's frustrating and I understand your plight but some people just need to push the boundaries to feel that they àre in control. Sad.

 

 

I totally agree with you Meg. I like when you say "to feel that they are in control" because that is all they have .... Feeling like they are in control, because quite frankly, they may feel like they are in control, but it is you Meg, HarleyMay and every other woman who are truly in control of what you know to be true and right for yourselves.

 

As frustrating as it may seem, there are things these so called irresponsible punters can never take away from you and that is your credibility, your integrity and your dignity.

 

I, for one, have far more respect for you who choose to be responsible and would see you before a woman who would cater to dangerous a reckless encounters to appease the few "idiots". So, yes.... Block these assholes and move on as they are not worth your breath or worthy of your time.

 

In praise of you Meg, HarleyMay and all women in our community who understand and appreciate the need to be safe.

[Mulletman 694]

Maybe they are screening Escorts that would allow it ,,I would never see an escort that would , so if the answer is yes , then good by .

 

Just another perspective .

[Gregsand 6116]

Maybe they are screening Escorts that would allow it ,,I would never see an escort that would , so if the answer is yes , then good by .

 

Just another perspective .

 

I would seriously question the effectiveness of that type of screening. I seen SP's and MA's wait to be behind closed door before offering certain options as they tend to vary depending on the comfort level with the client. Also, while the question and answer may reassure the hobbyist, the lady may not fell the same way about it. And like Harley mentioned, it will likely just burn you.

[1963Kennedy 10698]

HarleyMay you are "relatively" new here and all those bad apples are just trying to push you to go there. Obviously ignore them and they'll eventually go away. I'm sure SPs who have been here for a long time no longer get asked and their phone numbers get red flagged.

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

HarleyMay you are "relatively" new here and all those bad apples are just trying to push you to go there. Obviously ignore them and they'll eventually go away. I'm sure SPs who have been here for a long time no longer get asked and their phone numbers get red flagged.

 

Trust me, we still get asked frequently but, yes, numbers get flagged!

[Katherine of Halifax 113932]

HarleyMay you are "relatively" new here and all those bad apples are just trying to push you to go there. Obviously ignore them and they'll eventually go away. I'm sure SPs who have been here for a long time no longer get asked and their phone numbers get red flagged.

 

Its probably hard for a true gentleman to realize how much this happens . Even to those ladies that have been around a long time . BBFS, phone that rings all night, rude and inappropriate questions , we get it all.

[HarleyMay 2108]

I am new on lyla but around for the last 3 years so no I don't think it the case. It just becoming more frequent mostly on the low baler part. But I get your point. Worst I block theme but my cell show it when there texting and they keep on texting me ...weird!

[irwin0072003 236]

Over my 15 years of hobbing, I can say I have seen many ladies, some have been fantastic and some real horror stories! This is one of the toughest industries to be in, or part of! We sometimes go blind into a situation and hope for the best. The ladies don't want too many questions, dirty or clean! Some times it feels like, this is what I got for sale take it or leave it! I need more then two hands to count the times I have shown up and the girl is 30lbs over weight of what was said, she is older by 10 years and yes some of these ladies have been and still are on here! Guys ask too many questions because we have been baited and switched many times, once had a knife pulled on me, and once had a pimp call me to tell me my licenses plate! Sorry for my off beat, but back to the main issue, there are too many ladies that have offered BBFS and guys are dumb and have a hard on, what do we do? Of course go for it! Yes it's bad and gross and all those things but I have never caught a thing but my buddy went on a blind date last month and now he has herbies, so let's not paint all those ladies out there lwith one giant brush! But yes you want to do it! Do it, you don't want to offer BBFS then don't!

 

It's kind of like the weather we complain it's cold, then complain it's too hot! Do what you want and they can move on and hopefully the bad apples retire

[Gregsand 6116]

Some people consider certain practices less safe than others but anytime I see no restrictions posted I run the other way.

 

"no restrictions" doesn't equal "bbfs". This was even a thread topic:

 

http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=65845

 

While opinions vary, the consensus seems to be that health/life saving protections are NOT considered a restriction.

[Juice 2105]

Its probably hard for a true gentleman to realize how much this happens . Even to those ladies that have been around a long time . BBFS, phone that rings all night, rude and inappropriate questions , we get it all.

 

I don't doubt this is true. But BTW in my opinion it's only a very small % of women who agree to bbfs -- maybe 1-2%.

[fwblus 637]

Juice:

How do you arrive at the number 1-2%? I would think even if it happened, neither side would admit it most of the time if not all the time.

And for this kind of dangerous and serious activity, 1-2% probably is a lot relatively, considering there are so many providers and hobbyists around.

[Gregsand 6116]

I don't doubt this is true. But BTW in my opinion it's only a very small % of women who agree to bbfs -- maybe 1-2%.

 

I agree with fwblus. It's hard to put a statistic on what's going on between two adults behind closed doors. Less than one percent will advertise or offer it on the first meeting/session. But after repeat visits the option is offered a little more than many want to admit to.

 

In a perfect world it would be 0%. But between two adults with good attraction and chemistry it becomes none of our businesses. Your statistic is maybe in the ballpark, but we'll never know for sure.

[Parker 19761]

Obviously ignore them and they'll eventually go away. I'm sure SPs who have been here for a long time no longer get asked and their phone numbers get red flagged.

LOLOLOLOL! :lol:

I wish!!

 

In April I'll have been on Lyla for 10 years, which is also as long as I've been Independent, and I still get asked for it.. sometimes by guys I've already chewed out for asking.

 

You can usually set up spam filters in email and on smartphones to catch phrases like "bbfs"/"no condom" and that can help you ignore the majority of them though.

[GoinDown 3669]

Sadly, the fact that HIV/AIDS has for some time been a 'manageable disease' might have a lot to do with it.

[Parker 19761]

Sadly, the fact that HIV/AIDS has for some time been a 'manageable disease' might have a lot to do with it.

 

You'd figure if they were simply expecting women to take the risk of getting HIV and being unable to work- they would actually offer more money for such a taboo service, but as I've experienced (& heard from other girls) the more common 'unprotected-sex-requester' is likely to actually offer less than our rates..

 

Such leads me to believe that they're not so much 'just' looking for unsafe services as they are looking for desperate women they can take advantage of, which is probably why most ladies instantly block and report those asking for this.

[ImCarmenImBad 377]

I am getting extremely drained of patience when it comes to those kind of questions

[Gregsand 6116]

I am getting extremely drained of patience when it comes to those kind of questions

 

I don't want to be rude, but every trades come with their share of dumb and repetitive questions. If you think you got it bad, imagine RMT's who are asked regularly if they do "extras" after they went through two years of college to be recognised as health professionals. One I knew specialized in Thai massages and she was losing her mind because many men expected the bodyslide version.

 

If you don't want to hear those questions, just make it part of your introduction monologue to get it out of the way. Most lobbyists here are educated on the normal etiquettes. But as some ladies already mentioned, we're part of the minority. If inexperienced new comers are you bread and butter, it's up to you ladies to educate them.

 

I understand it can be annoying, but it's also a reality of the business. Up to you to find a way to deal with it.

[forkyew 225]

I have noticed a significant increase in the number of women who only want a text message to arrange an appointment. I sent an enquiry the other day, and her only reply was abbreviated message: ****: $**. I didn't event ask for this. I simply asked if she was available in the morning. After all, this is ideally what I am looking for: a clean girl, who hasn't been up all night servicing guys, and likes to get an early start at 9 am. This seems to be a tricky request.

 

I think this problem is largely created by the service provider. If enough service providers provide the service, then it will be demanded. If enough women advertise $** for 15 minutes, well ... what do you really expect?

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

If you don't want to hear those questions, just make it part of your introduction monologue to get it out of the way.

 

And then this opinion:

 

I sent an enquiry the other day, and her only reply was abbreviated message: ****: $**. I didn't event ask for this. I simply asked if she was available in the morning.