Lougle69 1334 Report post Posted April 10, 2018 Yep, they're screwed. They could get 20 years for the money laundering alone. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ATasteOfEve Report post Posted April 10, 2018 Yep, they're screwed. They could get 20 years for the money laundering alone. I think this whole thing is a disgrace! Just another example of political corruption. Why is it that the U.S. can make ammendments to their constitution when it comes to backpage alegations concerning money laundering and pimping and being responsible for children being forced into prostitution yet they can't seem to ammend the freaking constitution when it comes to firearms?? I know backpage has a bad rep in the industry but why is it that it was the most popular site in the industry? Because it was easy to use and crossed borders. They had a site in almost every country out there! Is it the fault of a website or the fault of the bastards committing the crimes through the website?? Seems to me this all boils down to votes and a piece of the pie! I personally hope that backpage wins their fight yet again. (Not because I think they had a classy site but simply on principle) I predict that they will be slapped with a large fine and then the site will be up and running again as long as they play the game according to the new rules arbitrarily set in place. NOT that that helps us in the meantime while it's tied up in litigation...Grrr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaKiss 10585 Report post Posted April 10, 2018 It will all depend on what proof they have. Backpage being seized hurt all of us. I think that if they had been playing by the rules in the first place this wouldn't have happened. I honestly don't think I will go back even if they do go back up. I think if they hadn't been shady in the first place we wouldn't be going through what we are right now. I don't want to support a company that was benefiting anything from child exploitation or anything of the like. I guess we will see what the end results produce.I am sure there is lots going on behind the scenes that we all don't know about and will be dug to the surface. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ATasteOfEve Report post Posted April 10, 2018 It will all depend on what proof they have. Backpage being seized hurt all of us. I think that if they had been playing by the rules in the first place this wouldn't have happened. I honestly don't think I will go back even if they do go back up. I think if they hadn't been shady in the first place we wouldn't be going through what we are right now. I don't want to support a company that was benefiting anything from child exploitation or anything of the like. I guess we will see what the end results produce.I am sure there is lots going on behind the scenes that we all don't know about and will be dug to the surface. I hear you sister, and I agree. My concern is that it's easier for a man to get his hands on a gun down there than it is to get laid! As for backpage, I can't say I wouldn't advertise there if they come back since I believe those preditors should be responsible for their own actions...a job for law enforcement perhaps? But I would like them to take me seriously and investigate when I report a problem to them...such as clients being ripped off by criminals who pose as legitimate escorts and ask guys for e-transfers up front and don't show up for the appointment. I reported an ad TWICE because two different men in two different cities that I saw claimed the same thing happened to them. Maybe if they would legalize prostitution across the board, men wouldn't fall victim to crimes. I am posting on Leolist.cc now. I don't like to be OVER-censored either! Lol! Good luck to you sweetie xx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262460 Report post Posted April 10, 2018 I find it stunning that anyone would take an article whose sources are anti prostitution proponents seriously. That's the faulty thinking that keeps sex work criminalized. I also don't think that 17 cases out of the millions of ads posted warrants this indictment. Does the elimination of the advertising platform help trafficking victims in any way? Is it going to be easier for LE to identify, locate and extract nonconsensual teens and adults? No, they are going to be pushed further underground and become harder to reach, all the while forcing consensual workers into more dangerous life situations. They were playing by the grey, tenuous rules but their willingness to defy unjust legislation was their downfall. If you don't want to support a site that has trafficking on it then stop advertising. I've know providers on Lyla that were pimped, there isn't a facet of the industry that it isn't present. What is erroneous tho are the details of what constitutes trafficking and pimping. This isn't about trafficking, this is about right wing censorship of sexuality online. In times coming, you will see more sights go down like Grindr, Tinder and Seeking Arrangements. This is simply the thin edge of the wedge. What they don't emphasize is that almost all of these "trafficked" minors are runaways from abusive home environments. Where is the onus for not protecting them before they end up on the streets? Where is the help for once they are on the streets? There is none. So instead of dealing with the real issues at hand from the beginning, legislation simply goes after the new sensationalizing headlines. This is a far more complex problem than "these guys were bad guys" whitewashing, anti sex worker groups would like the public to believe. Please understand that legalization is a disaster. It criminalizes the industry but leaves small loopholes for big business to buy licensing then controlling the industry. We need decriminalization which means the local business laws applies to sex work as it does to other businesses. It's important that we understand the difference even if it seems to be nit picking. It isn't, it's important that sex workers and those involved in the industry know the difference... smiles, cat 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ATasteOfEve Report post Posted April 10, 2018 I find it stunning that anyone would take an article whose sources are anti prostitution proponents seriously. That's the faulty thinking that keeps sex work criminalized. I also don't think that 17 cases out of the millions of ads posted warrants this indictment. Does the elimination of the advertising platform help trafficking victims in any way? Is it going to be easier for LE to identify, locate and extract nonconsensual teens and adults? No, they are going to be pushed further underground and become harder to reach, all the while forcing consensual workers into more dangerous life situations. They were playing by the grey, tenuous rules but their willingness to defy unjust legislation was their downfall. If you don't want to support a site that has trafficking on it then stop advertising. I've know providers on Lyla that were pimped, there isn't a facet of the industry that it isn't present. What is erroneous tho are the details of what constitutes trafficking and pimping. This isn't about trafficking, this is about right wing censorship of sexuality online. In times coming, you will see more sights go down like Grindr, Tinder and Seeking Arrangements. This is simply the thin edge of the wedge. What they don't emphasize is that almost all of these "trafficked" minors are runaways from abusive home environments. Where is the onus for not protecting them before they end up on the streets? Where is the help for once they are on the streets? There is none. So instead of dealing with the real issues at hand from the beginning, legislation simply goes after the new sensationalizing headlines. This is a far more complex problem than "these guys were bad guys" whitewashing, anti sex worker groups would like the public to believe. Please understand that legalization is a disaster. It criminalizes the industry but leaves small loopholes for big business to buy licensing then controlling the industry. We need decriminalization which means the local business laws applies to sex work as it does to other businesses. It's important that we understand the difference even if it seems to be nit picking. It isn't, it's important that sex workers and those involved in the industry know the difference... smiles, cat Well said Cat! If they would legalize it, they wouldn't have to worry so much about money laundering and getting their piece of the pie, which I'm sure in backpage's case is a very large piece. AND if they would just decriminalize it across the board, the average girl could handle her own business and file her taxes without a pimp! Additional Comments: Additional Comments: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exotic Touch Danielle 31729 Report post Posted April 10, 2018 Taking down backpage only hurts us and puts those without proper sources on the streets and in danger of being targeted by pimps and crazy men...people should have followed the rules and regulations on backpage perhaps then It would still be up (just my opinion) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262460 Report post Posted April 11, 2018 Well said Cat! If they would legalize it, they wouldn't have to worry so much about money laundering and getting their piece of the pie, which I'm sure in backpage's case is a very large piece. AND if they would just decriminalize it across the board, the average girl could handle her own business and file her taxes without a pimp! Decriminalization takes care of money laundering and taxes as well. No aspect of the industry is criminalized and there is no need for outrageous licensing fees. In countries with legalization, trafficking is said to be more frequent and independent providers can't afford the licensing fees which criminalizes them. There is still criminal legislation for legalization which is only applied to independent providers and small organizations. Legalization isn't an option if we genuinely want a system that protects the marginalized... smiles, cat 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TorontoMelanieJolliet 4458 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 This can help you explain the difference between decriminalization and legalization. It talks about sex work legislation around the world and the effects: 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
