Maintaining privacy

[Guest JamesB700]

As a person new to this site and new to the hobby what advice can be given to "newbies" to help avoid giving away to much personal information? I want to maintain as much privacy and discretion as possible. I realize the need for providers to do screenings and verify when possible. However, there must be a way to satisfy both sides and keep everyone happy and safe. Must not there be? Love to hear from both sides what works best when preparing to meet for the first time.

[Guest JamesB700]

I appreciate the feedback. I'm sure some may have good intentions but there is so much risk in just sending out personal info into cyberspace. Trusting the total stranger is legit. One would do well to think twice. Would love to dip my toe in the waters. Just need to take my time and figure out all the do's and don't's. ;)

[FunElement12 974]

If they are well established local providers then they have worked hard at establishing that good reputation and have no interest in losing a reputation that takes a while to get. They are far more interested in protecting themselves then anything else.

[Phaedrus 209521]

If you don't want to give out any information at all, that will limit who you see. However, once you're more established, you can often (but not always) provide references rather than personal information when you want to go through screening.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

Everybody has their own comfort level in this industry.

 

A few points to consider:

 

Set up a hobby email account/phone.

 

Ask the questions you feel are needed to get an idea if the two of you are a match.

 

Once you have a good idea you are interested in seeing the provider, then go forward. If you are not comfortable with her screening, move on. If you are comfortable with her screening, move forward.

 

A simple rule I follow, if he doesn't trust me, I won't trust him. Those that try to skirt my basic screening, have always turned into nightmares. So, if they don't like it, I move on. I personally will never give into their demands. My body, my rules.

 

James Qwerty:

 

As far as being coerced by police. That's a laugh in and of itself. I've dealt with the police and have always been truthful in what I do. They have never been interested in my client details. Just the details of the guy who tried to kill me, the guy who assaulted me. They never once tried to get details of my other clients. To suggest that this is the case is just a fear tactic, and probably a way to try to avoid screening.

 

Screening is up to the provider to keep her safe.

 

I don't know, where do you draw the hard line at well established? Who's to say it would always be the providers choice/fault if our personal information is used against us? What if she were coerced into cooperating with law enforcement in a new form of sting operation. I know it's something we don't like to think about, but it's very much a possibility.

 

 

 

No, I don't think you're being naive, but they can't do anything with information they don't have.

 

 

 

To each their own, at this point I have enough tools in my belt to feel safe regardless. It's also a matter of convenience and principle. You want me to believe that someone who collects my personal info, in a time where all the legal responsibility lies on me, has my best interests at heart? No, heavy screening is there to protect the provider, it has little bearing on the client aside from increased risk. I've seen plenty of established providers without being expected to fork over id, and certainly never my place of work. In my experience, rates tend to be higher for heavy screeners as well, and I find the quality of service perfectly acceptable either way.

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

^^^^

 

Nail hit firmly on the head with that one.

 

I will add to the men. READ!!!! Just because a form has a place for first and last name doesn't mean they are required fields. Just because a form has a place for employment doesn't mean that is the main type of screening she is looking for.

 

I offer employment screening but my preferred method is an active online social media/board account and 1 SP reference. No text apps and last name is optional.

 

So don't go based on the form, read first to know exactly what she requires. I give options because not everyone has an SP reference or an online account. Doesn't mean I like to screen that heavily.

 

Lastly - please remember this is actually an industry of discretion but not anonymity. There is a difference and people confuse the former for the latter. If it is too much for you not the be completely anonymous, this may be the wrong hobby for you. Do discretion, you should be good with doing your homework and research on a legit professional companion and have no troubles.

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

Hmm, fair enough. I've never seen any provider with a form suggesting it's an either/or. Typically they ask that I fill out the form, and provide a board handle or reference in addition, but your website appears to be setup a little differently. Either way, I choose not to provide such personal info, and I rarely see the same provider often enough to bother them with a reference request. I tend toward speaking my mind on forums, because I don't see providers that require a board handle, so I don't need to pretend that I agree with everything you say just to get on your good side.

 

 

 

To each their own has already been stated. If you don't see the value of anonymity in this industry, you are more than welcome to use your real name, which I assume is not Jessica Rain (though I could be wrong), and you are welcome to show your face as well. Anonymity works for me, and will be my preferred method of interaction, until such a time as it is unfeasible. If you're just starting out, finding a legit provider that doesn't screen can seem daunting, but I'm always happy to help out any newbies via pm, as I did for James :)

 

I got the idea for the options based on other providers, I just added it differently in my form.

 

Also I don't ask for men to kiss my ass on boards and not the reason I ask for board handle. As stated, I like giving back to the community, I like guys that give back to the community. I don't care if they don't have a single lounge post. I like reading their reviews because I like to know their interests before hand. I like to know what makes them tick. What drives them wild. Whatever I can learn to make sure we have the best romp possible. Both for him and me. I don't like a dry martini and I certainly don't like a dry session.

 

I don't demand men fill out my form either. Nor do I expect men to fill out my form if they are not comfortable. I often refer to ladies publically and privately that use less screening. I want you to be happy with whatever provider you choose. If I can help I do. Again giving back to the community.

 

I love how you bring up the name though, as if that is some kind of valid counter-point. I mean you checked my site but didn't see that I invite clients to my personal private home so clearly I do share personal and private info. Hence why I equally ask for personal and private info in return. It's a quid pro quo. It is fair and it shatters your counter-point. Another great example of why reading is so important. We could have saved time not even bothering with this attempted point. Time saving is important. Time is money in my world. Both mainstream and escort. Which brings me to my next time saving point

 

I don't care what you do. It doesn't make no nevermind to me. We are not compatible and my screening just saved you and me both a lot of possible wasted time.

 

That is the dual purpose of screening. So many men think it is to be invasive. Not understanding its dual role. However many men also believe that because we offer services in a public domain that means we are available to all of the public. That is simply not true either. There seems to be a theme of some thinking things that are simply not the reality of the world.

 

And lastly, if you truly feel you can't be found out because you hobby "anonymously", then all the power to you. Whatever helps you get through your lay however it is completely naive to think you are anonymous. You are not even anoynmous walking down the street anymore in this tech age and it is only getting worse for those who want to be faceless. You can continue to try, and I wish you all the best if that is what you require. I am just saying maybe re-weigh those risk factors because this is not an anonymous industry at all. Every client that walks through the door can be IDed. Every lady seen in any location, can be IDed. That is the true reality. If that is too much, then play in another sandbox. In my opinion, honesty is better served raw and real, for only then will it maybe be taken seriously.

 

Thankfully this industry is big enough for both our ways of doing things. And thankfully being adults, we can equally agree to disagree on a few things while totally agreeing on others.

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

You agree with me in almost every stance yet debate it like you don't. Strange but ok. Just a little re-cap, clarrifation, final stance - whatever you want to call it. Depending on how you take my deflightful personality on this one of course.

 

You avoid my screening which is what part of my screening is meant to do. To ensure that I waste little time in dealing with those that are not compatible with me for what ever reason. My screening is not just implemented in my booking form either. It is emcompassed in all my marketing. That is the point. I show accurate pictures because I only want clients who like my type of figure. I am not going to waste time with fake pics or overly photoshopped pics just to attract clients who won't actually be attracted to me.

 

My screening is also in my posts as you pointed out by carefully quoting one part of my post as to show it out of context but I stand by it anyway. I don't want clients who are not willing to equally put in the work, the time, the effort. I am not here to be a wham bam type of companion. My companionship runs longer and much different from the type of hobbying you seem enjoy. It takes work on both sides. Just like any type of long term relationship. I am the same with mainstream clients as well. Often it requires some homework on the part of the client. If the client is not willing to put in the work, I don't work with them. I have established myself enough in business and in escorting that I can pick and choose my clients and honestly say the customer is not always right which is often hard for people to hear.

 

So regardless of you personally, if someone, who was similar to you in inerests of extreme discretion (I will never agree with this industry being anoynmous and if you go through all that trouble, all the power to you but I can't smoke screen people from reality. Just as I would never say that a legit provider can't go bad or screened personal info as never been used against a client), who was similar in your tastes of variety, etc - he would be screened out. Which saves him time and possible money, and saves me time as well. It is a win-win. I think anyway.

 

But some such as yourself appear to take that raw real reality and call it a prickly personality they don't admire. It is what it is and I am fine with it. I am sure you and others will continue to use generations to dissuade men from sharing personal info. which is fine as well. There is will always be hobbyist one side saying what you are and someone else like me if it isn't me, saying what I do about the wonderful things that screening can do.

 

Anyway, it seem my charming personality has rubbed you the wrong way and you seem more inclined to disagreeingly agree with me for that then the actual topic at hand so thanks for the back and forth but I think this where I am done with it.

 

Have a good day.

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

Yes, we can agree on many things. The only thing you seem to have an issue with is the concept of anonymity and it's application in the industry. You personally exercise a degree of anonymity by using a fake name, and not showing pictures of your face. The fact that you lift the veil after screening a client does not change this reality.

 

 

 

Indeed, I understand this. I don't want to see providers that require a time consuming screening process, and divulging of personal info. You don't want to see clients like me who simply can't be bothered, we are on the same page.

 

 

 

Understood. The concept of "the customer is always right" has a deeper significance however. If you don't keep the customer happy, then they are no longer a customer. It doesn't actually indicate a potential client is never wrong. This works for you, because you don't want these clients anyways.

 

 

 

Well then you are either incorrect, or your real name is Jessica Rain, and you have some face photos that I'm unaware of. There is no "agreeing to disagree" when you are factually incorrect, it's a very binary scenario.

 

 

 

Right, I'm a uniquely delicate snowflake for seeking out providers who do in fact "give a shit", but I'm cool with that :)

 

 

 

If I were a crow, I'd be terrified right now ;)

 

 

 

Same to you.

 

Oh the lovely game of twisting words when being given the last word on a topic. Such a wonderfully slimy game but whatev. Nice try on the passive aggressive tho. Could use a little tweaking if I were reviewing but this is a recommendation board so.... I will just state the obvious one last time and then you can come back for the last word of attempted between the lines insults and more word twisting if you like.

 

 

It is actually laughable what you try to imply if I am being honest. So because I don't care if I am not called on by a man who doesn't like that I won't provide him with kidnap style pics that means I don't care about my clients??? Doesn't have anything to do with the fact that I already provide a website, active social media account, real recent pro and selfie pics, reviews, etc. so I feel I have done enough on my side of things to provide any potiental client with all that he needs in order to determine if he wants to book me or not? Nope. No way Jess. It could not have anything to do with that. LOL. That would mean I wrote that in the whole post that you conveniently cropped to a sentence or two in order fit your agenda and narrative.

 

I seriously think you don't like that I am simply not kissing ass and that is what you have a problem with. Which is funny because you enjoy ensuring that you can do the same. Since you don't give your board handle to ensure you don't have to kiss ass too right? Seems rather hypocritical. I know I know. I am the just the hooker and you are the client(even if we will never have a session) so you deserve the kissed cheek right? LOL. Sorry but no.

 

And no. I am not incorrect. I never said anything about hiding ones ID online. You keep alluding to that because it makes your non valid point seem valid. But what I said was any party who walks through the door where a session will take place can't not expect anonymity. That is what I said. That is what usually happens when a client and SP actually meet. Which is from my understanding the purpose of the industry. To actually meet each other. Once that is done, the only thing either side can hope for is for the other party to remain discrete. That is it. There is no anonymity in this industry when actually meeting someone. I can't believe I had to clarify that point but there it is folks.

 

I am still willing to agree to disagree but you don't seem to be. So you can keep speaking apples if that helps you feel you have proven something, while I speak oranges and telll how it actually is in reality. That is okay. Whatever works for you in your world. I don't need for you to judge me right or wrong on the matter to carry on with my business. As I am sure it won't affect your actual hobbying none either.

 

So let's try giving you the last word one more time and see if you can respectful agree to disagree or if you will continue to insist upon and infer things that simply not there.

 

 

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To the OP, I do apologize that this got derailed so much. That was not my intent when I posted. My main points for you and others:

 

1. Don't do what you are not comfortable with

2. Read the entire ad or website to see all the options available for screening if there are some

3. Weigh your own risks vrs the reward and see if it is worth it to you. There is always the possiblity that bad things can happen, so make sure you are good with that before you play.

 

I didn't think that advice would tailspin the way it did but that is the summed up version. Lol GL

[WhereIRoam 21825]

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

You just really don't like be called on things eh?

I don't "agree to disagree" when I have the facts on my side. Anonymity is anonymity whether online or otherwise. When you meet someone in person, you sacrifice a degree of anonymity, as you now have the details of their appearance, but you don't necessarily have the other pieces that make up their identity (name, address, etc). You don't have to kiss my behind, I'd settle for a rational discussion. In any case, I'm sure your "time" is far more valuable than mine, even given your niche clientele. Nice talk :)

 

 

ROTFLMAO!!!! I'm dying here. Like really? Please "call me on" things some more. Please. This beats watching the shitshow that is Rozanne Barr right now. LOL

 

Did you even read what you wrote?

 

1. Anonymity is anonymity....

2. When you meet someone in person, you sacrifice a degree of anonymity

 

 

You wrote those two lines. Thank you for that. You just proved my point. LOL. I am pretty sure I said the same things as number two like 3 posts ago. LOL

 

You cannot be anonymous when you physically meet someone. Add to that cameras in hotels, licence plates, wallets with ID, etc. Just to name a few ways of obtaining some of the other details. If someone wants to scam you, rob you, blackmail you later, they don't need to you fill out a booking form with personal info. They only need to meet you once.

 

Shit, I won't even get into the linking of email addys, Google account linking, smartphone linking, Facebook accounts that give friends suggestions of the SP you just saw. LOL All accidental linking of personal and hobby info. Some know how to stop this stuff but a lot don't. Not to mention those who forget to switch between the two all the time.

 

Do you know how many real names I find of people who have their AirDrop accounts open while sitting around the local Starbucks? LOL

 

There are tons of ways of finding out a person now-a-days, that no one is truly anonymous anymore. Not anyone with a car, bus pass, any form of government ID, let alone an email account, smartphone, a legit paying job, the list can go on forever.

 

A rational discussion needs factual points hon. Sorry. All you can reasonably hope for is discretion. Anyone who feels they are 100% anonymous is giving themselves and the others they preach to a false sense of security. I care about the industry too much to even let potential clients feel that if I can help it.

 

I will agree that my time is probably more valuable than yours, but only because of the fee I can charge. It is not like I think I am special or anything. I call it how it is, even when it pertains to me.

 

Hopefully, that finally ends this, but somehow I feel like it won't. LOL

 

I will say one thing if a person asks you to leave them alone - I would heed the suggestion. It is the polite and respectful thing to do. Just sayin'

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

Reality sitcoms eh, that's some intellectually stimulating stuff.

I don't think you quite understand the words I'm putting in front of you here.

Shall we just move on?

 

I agreed to disagree. You are the one harping on the topic.

 

I love how you change my quotes though. Fun stuff. Thankfully I don't have to do the same to yours. You prove my points for me, so thanks!

 

I think everyone can read what you put in front them/me and draw their own conclusions now. Again, thank you!

 

My job here is done. :stiletto:

[TorontoMelanieJolliet 4458]

As a person new to this site and new to the hobby what advice can be given to "newbies" to help avoid giving away to much personal information? I want to maintain as much privacy and discretion as possible. I realize the need for providers to do screenings and verify when possible. However, there must be a way to satisfy both sides and keep everyone happy and safe. Must not there be? Love to hear from both sides what works best when preparing to meet for the first time.

 

 

Both sides have made it clear, collectively and individually, what is acceptable to them(selves). So a one-size fits all, satisfy both sides thing is really not a thing at all. Each girl decides what they are comfortable with and you would have to take that up with them as an individual. Not try to come up with some method that you can use and expect to work across the board. These girls have done trial and error to decide what they have settled on works for them.

 

 

You can request that members here tell you what info to give but to try and counter that with what can you do make that ok with all/any girl is quite an undertaking...so you can only do you. Don't try to be no trailblazer. You will not succeed ;)

 

 

 

 

I appreciate the feedback. I'm sure some may have good intentions but there is so much risk in just sending out personal info into cyberspace. Trusting the total stranger is legit. One would do well to think twice. Would love to dip my toe in the waters. Just need to take my time and figure out all the do's and don't's. ;)

 

 

Now pretend you are SW and repeat after me: Trusting a total stranger is legit. One would do well to think twice.

 

 

Yes take your time. One well worded post is not going to answer all your questions. (But it's creates one for me: How new are you exactly and why do you sound like you have much experience? *need upside down happy face emoji here*

 

Additional Comments:

Any amended laws do not mean cops will be beating the door of every SW and snatching their phones. Manpower, Budgets and actual Will are limitations to such a thing. And amended laws don't happen without some discussion/warning.

 

On the other hand to carry out that kind of action where it will net the biggest catch, it would be easier to go to someone who has access to a lot of SW. And, like "The League Of Gentlemen" case in Seattle, it still takes a lot of time and investment from law officials..and THAT was a investigation started based on community complaints from neighbours who noticed things out of the ordinary for their area. Not some hunch or surveillance on the part of beat cops.

 

#metoo: is for women who have experienced sexual coercion to get and maintain their jobs. It's not for someone who has chosen to do SW for a living. Two totally different things. And if you don't see the difference, that is because you are a man. Us women totally know the difference and we're the ones that matter on that front. And we are reasonable women, so trying to stretch that #metoo movement to what we do is ridiculous.

 

If your area is SW-scarce you don't have to try to convince others to change for you. There are no laws in place to make sure your area is serviced by SW at all. Either travel to next area/city/town or go the extra mile to see the hard-to-see girls. But trying to make changes because of a scarcity problem is not a pressing issue for anyone but the one feeling it.

 

"Time and Companionship". The new American laws (not that the old ones didn't imply the same thing) will not allow the blatant advertising of sexual services because it is illegal to sell them! The new laws have far reach now in that websites have to conform to the laws, and this includes websites we have access to, or be prosecuted and seized by US officials for breaking their laws.

 

You/we have to conform to the new laws. Not the other way around.

[Guest JamesB700]

As the OP, and as stated brand "spanking(wink wink)"new here, I would like to thank everyone that has added content to this thread. As much as I have enjoyed the entertainment, wishing I had some popcorn ;), I truly do appreciate hearing from both sides. It's exactly what I was hoping for. Maybe some other senior members can chime in as well. ;)

 

There is so much to learn and consider when getting started that it can be very overwhelming and really that is why I have not joined sooner. I am feeling better all the time that, as my knowledge grows, I will be far less likely to make mistakes (fewer anyway) when choosing a SP. Thanks again to all for the info. Keep it coming.

 

I agree that "total anonymity" in today's Big Brother world is getting more and more unlikely, if not already impossible, energy day. That said I also agree that striving to retain as much anonymity as possible is the best approach for both sides. One can never eliminate ALL risks but that doesn't mean we should give up and not even try. Right?

 

All I know is that there seems to be a lot of people who do care on here each in their own way. I look forward to also sharing on here more in the future as I have more to contribute.

 

J

[Phaedrus 209521]

I rarely see the same provider often enough to bother them with a reference request.

 

I don't actually think this is a problem. If I need a reference I tend to ask the last indy provider I saw (unless I know she isn't reference-friendly) and that usually isn't a problem, even if I've only seen her the once. Most ladies understand the value of references and are happy enough to help others with their screening, even if they don't ask for references themselves.

[TorontoMelanieJolliet 4458]

If you're an average joe, not filling in all your info on a provider's form may protect you from a couple of things, potential police investigations, and long term repercussions from an irate provider. For example, if you do something that the provider deems to be crossing the line, she can call the hotel staff/cops immediately, in which case you're probably screwed either way, all you can hope for then is that guilty until proven innocent still means something...unless you don't go to hotels to meet providers.

 

Or she might think it over before taking legal action.

If she has all your info she can just hand it over to the cops. If she doesn't have all your info then she has to convince the hotel/apartment/condo to go through the security footage, to find an image of you, then the cops have to actually track you down, who's to say if it's even worth their effort at that point? If you didn't drive your own vehicle to her incall, then they can't track you by license plate either, making it even more difficult to track you down.

 

 

Why would she do that when she can just get her pimp to handle you? LOL The sky is falling the sky is falling. What are YOU doing to necessitate this thought process?

 

 

Alternatively, maybe you decide to stick to outcalls instead. Sure that means she knows your location, but maybe your location is an apartment building, and maybe you only give her the building number and then greet her at the door. Perhaps you've set up an agreement with the apartment super to not list your name on the intercom system, perhaps you've removed the number on your door, perhaps the super has informed you that the cameras are just for show.

 

Of course she still has your phone number, and if she goes to the cops they can probably track that down to your address, but maybe that phone isn't actually linked to your home address, maybe you bought it with cash and you like to vacation at 123 Memory Lane (I hear it's nice this time of year), under the pseudonym John Doe :)

 

 

Shady dude! Now I see the thought process and it's not pretty.

 

 

The eventual face to face meeting is no guarantee that she really knows anything about you, unless you're a public figure, in which case you're probably screwed either way. There are no guarantees, but it can be quite fun to unpack the intricacies of anonymity, closing as many of the loops as you can, I've built a career on it in IT.

 

There are all sorts of little things you can do to minimize your real and digital footprint. It's very likely that experienced providers with in depth screening processes are wise to many of these tricks, but very few inexperienced providers likely are ;)

 

 

Public figure: no guarantee she knows who you are. And you want to trick new providers. Nice. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you DON'T!!!

[Emma Alexandra 123368]

Right, despite our playful bickering regarding the concept of anonymity, it's true that some level of anonymity is going to be sacrificed somewhere along the line, no matter what you do. It's getting really bad out there for men, it used to be that we could live our lives without coming under fire of allegations, but that's all changed over the last few years.

 

If you're an average joe, not filling in all your info on a provider's form may protect you from a couple of things, potential police investigations, and long term repercussions from an irate provider. For example, if you do something that the provider deems to be crossing the line, she can call the hotel staff/cops immediately, in which case you're probably screwed either way, all you can hope for then is that guilty until proven innocent still means something...unless you don't go to hotels to meet providers.

 

Well you shouldn't be doing that then should you? Exactly why we need to screen people.

[Maria Divina 2262]

James Qwerty

 

After reading the last post you wrote, you are just looking as someone who is willing to do something to the ladies he is encountering and this is why you want to keep the most anonymity possible then. You just did gave a so very strange vibe.

 

And this mostly because you are showing so much fear to be possibly catch after your bad behaviours.

 

If a gentleman reading your posts and suggestions is having a strange impression, it could be just normal.

 

*****

 

So to be back to the first starting thread question written in my own words:

 

How could we maintain an equilibrium for both gentlemen/clients & ladies/providers between privacy & being reassured that we are meeting someone we can trust?

 

Really easily! First of all, your gut's feeling may be of a great importance and you have to follow to general rules of when you are meeting someone by internet, and this is good FOR ladies AND gentlemen:

 

1-be sure that this person if for real/reputable to avoid any scam

2-when it is "too good to be true" is probably because it is

3-What we used to say: "Google is your friend" (Now I adapted it to "Duckduckgo" is your friend") is of another importance here. Make search about the person you want to get together. :-)

 

So to make any process going smoother while contacting a SW and give a very good first impression (and this is of very importance in this domain) just follow one of the few procedure possibilities she might have suggested on her website or in her ads, add a personal presentation as any other person will do when meeting someone for the first time and there you go. Nothing more simple in life. In fact, SW are people like any other people in our society, we live by the same principles of courtesy and good living.

 

And last add: That doesn't require a "scientist diploma" to be able to separate the "good" from the "bad". :-) hahaha ;-)

 

I wish you a good first encounter. I am pretty sure you are in measure to find a good person just the way you are writing your first post JamesB700 ;-)

[Guest JamesB700]

Thank you Maria,

You give good thoughtful suggestions. I knew that there were scams and shady providers out there to avoid. I just wasn't sure if there were some procedures and online tools being used that I was unaware of. Turns out there are. ;). Thanks again to all that shared info in that regard. I'm certain there is more to learn. I'm equally certain that one must continue to learn and be on the look out for coming changes whatever they may be. I guess, depending on how far one wants to go, you can get quite creative and in depth with the measures you want to take to maintain your privacy. There is nothing wrong with that as long as you are not hurting anyone else and just being careful. It can also be relatively easy using some basic rules and a good measure of common sense and trusting your instincts. As mentioned before, there is no one answer, no one approach for all situations. Each person is different with different levels of risk tolerances on both sides. I guess if you are not comfortable with one then keep looking until you find one you are comfortable with. Pretty simple really.

 

One must accept the inherent risk and take responsibility in protecting their own privacy or anonymity by whatever means they feel necessary. Both sides can do this and together the ones that put in the work and effort will find they have the best experiences. At least I think and hope this is true. Of course, this is what I imagine to be true without, as of yet, any first hand experiences of my own to go by.

 

There are always going to be those people that try to scam and take advantage of others. We must each protect ourselves and in doing so we will help others to protect themselves.

 

Be vigilant, be very safe and most of all have fun.

 

J

[pony1966 1090]

I am new to this hobby but I realized right away that I may risk money and being disappointed because she does not look like the pictures but the SP risks their safety. So if you can't deal with them looking out for themselves you may not be ready for this hobby. BTW I have had 2 encounters, the first was not like her picture (older) but still had a decent time and the 2nd looked better than her pictures so I feel I have broken even so far. Just remember these ladies have chosen to let us have access to them but respect their right to protect themselves.

[Genevieve Marceau 68000]

On ‎6‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 12:32 PM, JamesB700 said:

As a person new to this site and new to the hobby what advice can be given to "newbies" to help avoid giving away to much personal information? I want to maintain as much privacy and discretion as possible. I realize the need for providers to do screenings and verify when possible. However, there must be a way to satisfy both sides and keep everyone happy and safe. Must not there be? Love to hear from both sides what works best when preparing to meet for the first time.

Super easy: only contact the providers who's screening methods are compatible with your level of comfort.