Refused Entry Into Another Country For Being a Prostitute

[A***** A***** 510]

This was taken from another board, I have my doubts about what this persons "friend" posted:

 

I suspect like a lot of the guys on here, seeing what a womans face looks like can be just as important as what the rest of her looks like. *I've always thought ads with clear face pics were the best because I felt I could get a much better feel for what the lady might be like from her face. *Who can resist one of Holly's radiant smiles? *

 

I've become aware of a situation that has caused my opinion to do a 180 change and I offer this as a word of warning to all of the ladies out there, especially ones who may wish to travel outside of Canada. *Not every country is as enlightened as Canada on the subject of SP's. *If you only have body pics (with tattoo's hidden), there isn't much any border control people can do because even if they get an idea of who you are, they can't positively tie your real identity to your working identity. *They would have to have an actual witness and the chances of that are very remote. *All of that changes if you have a clear face pic posted. *If they get anything that could possibly tie your real identity to your working identity, *with a face pic it is easy to confirm the suspicion and once that happens, you can find yourself in a world of hurt. *

 

You might think it doesn't matter because you don't plan on traveling while you're working and once you retire, what's to worry about? *Unfortunately, it doesn't stop once you retire. *Images on the Internet are more eternal than any mere mortal and they will still be around long after you retire. *Some countries have exclusion time periods and don't care if you are retired or not. *You could have been out of the business for years and still be banned from entry.

 

I know a lot of pooners out there will bury me with crap for saying this, but ladies, for your own peace of mind and to preserve your freedom to travel, IMHO you should seriously reconsider posting any pics that would be able to positively identify you, especially face pics or pics of tattoo's. *We pooners will hate it when you stop posting those face pics but your future happiness is more important.

[A***** A***** 510]

Interesting read so far

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[Kubrickfan 12836]

I suspect this law, as broadly as it is written, is intended to be a tool in the US to be used against those engaged in international human trafficking.

 

I suspect the question, to put it mildly, would be unlikely to arise is an ordinary conversation with a border agent.

[Paradise Spa 24019]

Interesting read so far

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I agree :)

[Andee 220524]

They would have to know that you are a prostitute, so unless you had a criminal record for being busted or they suspected you were entering their country to engage in prostitution, how would they know?

 

I don't think it's something most of us have to be afraid of, but certainly being aware is always a good thing.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

That would have to know that you are a prostitute, so unless you had a criminal record for being busted or they suspected you were entering their country to engage in prostitution, how would they know?

 

 

Exactly. That was my point about being unikely to come up in conversations with a customs agent. Unless there's something in a record they are looking at, or (big smile) you attempt to cross in "work attire," it seems to not be much of a risk.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

I know of friends who went to Miami to dance and got questioned heavily at the border about stripper shoes and lingerie in their bags. They were questioned about going there to work illegally.

[Victoria Banks 21899]

Thank you for posting this. I was refused entry at the border last month, humiliated and searched. They went through my phone, pictures emails ..everything. Then had the nerve to say I was entering the us to turn tricks and i had tricks lined up (his words) Wtf. Those were not my intentions. Lol

 

Pissed me off my hotel and everything was already paid for on expedia. Waste of money and time.

[BarrhavenWoody 10776]

I suspect there is a big difference between visiting the US for a vacation vs. moving there. I can't imagine this becoming an issue unless you were planning to emigrate to the states. Even then, it seems like a long shot.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Thank you for posting this. I was refused entry at the border last month, humiliated and searched. They went through my phone, pictures emails ..everything. Then had the nerve to say I was entering the us to turn tricks and i had tricks lined up (his words) Wtf. Those were not my intentions. Lol

 

Pissed me off my hotel and everything was already paid for on expedia. Waste of money and time.

 

Did they have proof that you were 'turning tricks'? Or did they assume this based on what they saw in pictures, emails, etc? I suppose it's best not to travel with a laptop there or delete everything off the computer and phone.

[Victoria Banks 21899]

Did they have proof that you were 'turning tricks'? Or did they assume this based on what they saw in pictures, emails, etc? I suppose it's best not to travel with a laptop there or delete everything off the computer and phone.

 

Yep live and learn. It was an assumption.

[qwertyaccount 15793]

They are getting very touchy about people working in the states in any profession; it's not just Mexicans crossing the border for work these days.

If you are planning on making it a working vacation, you could FexEx your material to your hotel ahead of you.

If you are bringing/sending anything particularly new or valuable, bring/send the Canadian receipt for it for Canada Customs on the return trip to prove that it was purchased in Canada otherwise you may have to pay duty and tax for it.

[cat 262460]

The real risk isn't the government stumbling onto a girls website. Yes they can find information in your laptop and smartphone or the contents of your luggage may tip someone off. The risk of this isn't great but it can happen.

 

The real risk of face shot pictures is from those close to us. Someone with an axe to grind can easily send the border authorities the information along with your real identity and they WILL enter it into your file. I have experienced it first hand with a friend who isn't in the profession but was having a baby with a Canadian and would travel up here to visit while her official paperwork was being completed. The allegations were made and she has had issues crossing ever since. Once they took her 5 month old Canadian baby, brought him out of the gate to his father and detained her for hours. Only with intervention from another friend of mine was she allowed to enter Canada. They were going to send her home without her baby.

 

A list of my closest American friends was forwarded to the C.B.S by an emotionally unstable person and they all have issues coming to visit me now. All it takes one person who wants to fuck with your life and travel can be a nightmare.

 

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE RISK HAVING YOUR FACE OUT THERE....

 

cat

[April Dawn 12207]

Wow! This is definetely something to think about now, I go to the states quite a bit to visit family. Kinda scary. Thanks for posting this.

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[roamingguy 300292]

As a sidebar, why would any lady risk going to the United States to escort when it is illegal for the most part. And risk Law Enforcement arresting them, and getting caught up in the American justice system, when, for the most part it is legal (within strict guidelines) up in Canada.

I don't see the cost/benifit to doing it, not to mention, if you make over a certain amount (I believe but don't quote me, $10,000 cash) it has to be declared at the border. Plus, if caught, the American justice system, I believe, could seize the money as proceeds of crime.

Just asking a question, someone more knowledgable might have the answer

RG

[April Dawn 12207]

I think it's more of someone going for a visit/trip and being caught in an uncomfortable situation.

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[cat 262460]

Travel for work can be very lucrative if you plan it right, but usually the legal aspects are not front and center in the providers thoughts. A misdemeanor conviction for any crime of moral turpitude carries a LIFETIME DEPORTATION from the US if the authorities do the paperwork and if they don't get you on it immediately it will make it's way thru the system and you will have to deal with it eventually.

cat

[Seymour 3970]

As a sidebar, why would any lady risk going to the United States to escort when it is illegal..

RG

 

There is the obvious financial gain from working south of the border. Some markets can be very lucrative for those providers that give a great service.

[roamingguy 300292]

Not arguing the point, but adding to the discussion. When factoring in travel, hotel, risks to possibly be encountered with the American justice system, asset forfeiture (meaning all money earned seized as proceeds of crime), why wouldn't a lady stay in Canada, where, within guidelines, it is perfectly legal.

I am just looking at risk/rewards...seems too risky for the reward, wheras the risk/rewards up in Canda, greater reward vs fewer risk....not to mention the patriotic factor, us Canadian guys adore you ladies

RG

[fortunateone 156618]

Not arguing the point, but adding to the discussion. When factoring in travel, hotel, risks to possibly be encountered with the American justice system, asset forfeiture (meaning all money earned seized as proceeds of crime), why wouldn't a lady stay in Canada, where, within guidelines, it is perfectly legal.

I am just looking at risk/rewards...seems too risky for the reward, wheras the risk/rewards up in Canda, greater reward vs fewer risk....not to mention the patriotic factor, us Canadian guys adore you ladies

RG

 

 

I agree with the risk/benefit, for sure. I don't see the point of taking that kind of risk, but I'd suggest the reward is (or would be) fairly significant, and probably involves an extended visit (weekend to a week), and pre payment of at least half of the donation. So she isn't risking half of it, or any of it if she can find a way to send the money rather than carry it, plus she isn't posting daily ads and setting up in a hotel room in a US city, but rather spending the time with one individual, most likely.

[Guest C*****tte]

I do not work in the United States. For me the risk is too much. For others the pay off is worth the risk (touring ladies can make ten thousand and more a week in certain cities - indies rates are often double what they are in Toronto).

 

A very good friend was refused entry because they suspected her to be an escort (based on what was in her luggage - lingerie, condoms etc...). She still cannot travel there even for personal purposes as her name is flagged.

 

I go to the Untied States for other work and really do not want to be flagged. This is one reason I worry about future registration of escorting here in Canada (very likely if full legalization happens). I do not want this attached to me and my real name and limit my other work activities.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

I do not work in the United States. For me the risk is too much. For others the pay off is worth the risk (touring ladies can make ten thousand and more a week in certain cities - indies rates are often double what they are in Toronto).

 

A very good friend was refused entry because they suspected her to be an escort (based on what was in her luggage - lingerie, condoms etc...). She still cannot travel there even for personal purposes as her name is flagged.

 

I go to the Untied States for other work and really do not want to be flagged. This is one reason I worry about future registration of escorting here in Canada (very likely if full legalization happens). I do not want this attached to me and my real name and limit my other work activities.

 

Plus in the (admittedly very) unlikely event you get caught, you could have a major problem. On the other hand, if you are just visiting "friends" (pre-made appointments with reliable clients) for a short trip and carry a normal suitcase full of clothes, I cant imaging having much of a problem. Heck, just visit anywhere on the Gulf Coast of Florida over the winter and you are going to see as many Canadians as Americans.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

When going to the U.S. as an SP, leave all condoms or anything that could be considered related to this business at home. Including the lingere. Take a trip to Victoria's Secret if you have to when you arrive and buy condoms at a drug store there. Then on your way back, just claim the lingere as a shopping expense and toss the protection in the hotel trash can. Wipe your netbook clean if you have to or delete any images off your cell phone, texts, or emails.

 

Many girls I knew who worked down there would send their money back on a daily basis by Western Union to a trusted friend or family member. Back in the early 2000's it was financially lucrative to go there... not anymore and it's not worth the risk.

 

And one of the biggest things to back up your excuse to go there is say you're visiting a friend. I hate to sound sexist but when they see a woman travelling alone, it raises red flags. In this case have someone like a trusted regular back up your story. Have your answers ready and a fabricated story of how you met this person ( where and when), dress the part of a tourist and don't get argumentative with customs agents or stumble on your words. Just answer their questions and you'll be fine. As long as they can't prove you're going there to work and you don't have a criminal record, it is unlikely that you're going to have any trouble crossing the border.

[Guest C*****tte]

And one of the biggest things to back up your excuse to go there is say you're visiting a friend. I hate to sound sexist but when they see a woman travelling alone, it raises red flags. In this case have someone like a trusted regular back up your story. Have your answers ready and a fabricated story of how you met this person ( where and when), dress the part of a tourist and don't get argumentative with customs agents or stumble on your words. Just answer their questions and you'll be fine. As long as they can't prove you're going there to work and you don't have a criminal record, it is unlikely that you're going to have any trouble crossing the border.

 

Agreed.

 

Customs at the Montreal airport are notoriously suspicious of ladies of a certain age traveling alone to certain USA cities (New York DC Boston). They get stopped all the time. Being prepared is crucial.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Oh one more thing... don't say you're going to visit a boyfriend. Otherwise they might think you will never return to Canada.