''only service''

[Guest *as*e]

I been a member for just over 2 years now and I've only used the services of the ladies a few times, however I'm one of those that NOW ask if there is a different price structure. First of all I've NEVER engaged in Full service and I have no intention of doing that. It's not what I'm looking for. I don't need a BJ, I just need a good time being teased, played with and having my hands all over a women. So for ME there is a difference between NO intercourse and everything else. In the beginning I didn't care about asking if there is a different price (because it didn't occur to me)...however when someone says GFE I expected that to be anything I would do with my girlfriend - even if that's just a good time teasing each other and hanging out. Not all ladies understand or appreciate the fact that you DON'T want to have intercourse (because that's what they get most of the time)- so they just shout down and let you do all the work ... so now for all my new experiences, because I don't know If I'm going to do most of the work, I ask if they have a rate for no full service instead of being disappointed...and if I'm not disappointed I usually give a good tip (and come back again). Most of the ladies are very polite and tell my that their rate is for their time. However for me it's better I ask than get upset for not getting what I wanted, then having a bad impression of that provider...I do agree with you that your time is valuable, however if the wrong message is given just to get your money upfront, I can see why others do it.

[The General 11309]

I am a bit mixed on this, I agree with Rebecca in that she does not need to negotiate her price, particularly since she has pretty much a full service menu, at a single price. So, she can easily answer any question about limited service and less price. Clearly, no, I offer a single service for my time, at a single price.

 

However, with all the ladies that offer mutliple menus, multiple prices for different menus, it is easy to understand why someone would think it is not inappropriate to inquire if there are different prices for different services, many of the other SPs, offer such.

 

That said, once the answer is "NO", that should be the end of it, no further discussion, period. So, if the concern is the inquiry, I would say that should not be surprising. If the concern is that the person still wants to negotiate beyond the clear answer, then that is when the person has crossed the line of being reasonable.

[BootyLoving 2441]

Each SP have their own pricing and marketing strategy(s). In general though, from my perspective, I am a hard ball negotiator in regular life, but when requesting for service, I let the ladies set their own price, and I will choose to accept or reject the price vs. service provided, and selection.

 

In my view and practice, negotiating with your SP sets a negative mood. You might try this tactic should you have a longer term relationship with the SP, but many SP will offer you discounted rate, or additional benefit for being a frequent flyer.

[rickkm 328]

When they ask that, do they imply that it should be worth less? Some men prefer oral sex to anything but it shouldn`t cheapen the encounter if that is all they want....they probably get that idea from whores on 7th avenue like the Simon & Garfunkel song and you get that for 20$!! lol

[ottawaadventurer 5114]

When I dipped my toe into this world for the first time, I, too, made the mistake of thinking that asking for less than FS would cost less. After all, a steak is more expensive than a hamburger! (how dumb i was)...

 

I made a couple of inquiries and received a couple of curt, almost rude responses, basically telling me to buzz off. I didn't know then that this was something that happened often (men trying to bargain) and that it was quite offensive to the ladies in question.

 

And then finally, one provider took the time to explain things to me.... that the requested donation levels were firm, that the donations were for time and not services, the concept of YMMV, etc... She was polite, caring, and really took the time to ensure that I understood why things were the way they were.

 

Of course, once all had been explained, I was mortified at how I must have sounded and how disrespectful those ladies must have thought I was.

 

I am not saying that an outright "buzz off" is not an option, or that the ladies have any responsibility to take the time to explain things to every guy that sends a text or email.

 

But I did want to tell the story because this particular lady is the reason I was finally able to take the plunge and set up a date.

 

Not everyone comes into this hobby with an enlightened mind... but that doesn't make them cavemen or idiots. CERB members are immersed (at least for a time) in this world and have come to know how things work. It's not every guy that gets it at first.

 

I will always be grateful to the lady who was so patient with me and who took the time to teach me a bit about the etiquette of being a client.

[E.D. man 691]

i believe in canada you have to negotiate for the sp's time not what service she provides other wise it is soliciatation and illegal. But no sp should have to negotate for their time. if you can't afford her go rent a porn.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

i believe in canada you have to negotiate for the sp's time not what service she provides other wise it is soliciatation and illegal....

 

Communication for the purposes of prostitution is entirely legal unless it is done in a public place. Prostitution itself is legal. There is nothing inherently illegal about discussing specific services.

 

back to the thread ...

[Vanessa381 110]

I completely agree, if you list your rate by time and don't say ask me about special rates for individual services, then it should be assumed that that is the price for that time period, period. Just to add to that, it's equally tacky to offer a girl part of the price and the rest in party favours or whatever. I don't think I could pay my mechanic part of the money and a case of beer or something. OK. scratch that, my mechanic might take that lol but you get my drift.

[Gentleman11 10508]

These kind of "bargain hunters" use a polite description will go away if ignored. You provide a vauleable service and should be compensated accordingly. Tyr your best to politely ignore them and thjey will eventually get the message.

[A***** A***** 510]

Thats why i put rates non negotiable in my ads, as some will still try! You try to do that to me, you dont get in the door, end of story.

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[BootyLoving 2441]

Here is an example of a more elaborate pricing strategy, however, if you actually read through it, its quite clear, and to the point.

 

The menu reads like a star bucks:

 

http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46995

[frankie 103]

I totally agree that a donatation for the time provided rather than the service itself.

[Chanel Reign 28097]

I totally agree that a donatation for the time provided rather than the service itself.

 

I do agree, however...there are some "services" that are more labour intensive/skilled/fetishlike etc. While you may still be paying for my time; it can sometimes be in a non FS or GFE/PSE timeshare. Those time rates vary.

 

So having both clearly stated, either in your ad or on ones web site what your time rates are I don't see the problem with having both.

[braddx15 150]

Personally I prefer a "one price for all the services". But I don't think you should be offended if someone asks for an "only service" The reason why some people ask is because some people offer it even though they do not advertise that they offer it.

If you don't ask you will never know.

[roamingguy 300292]

You know, the more I see ladies, the less I'm concerned about the services than I am about the entirety of their company. And it really isn't, at least for me, about the alphabet soup of services offerred, it's about the their company. A nice relaxed date with no specific expectations has turned out for me to be the best encounters of all. Maybe that's because I'm older and the companionship aspect of seeing a lady means as much if not more than just the sexual side of the encounter.

Don't know if that helps at all, but thrown in for discussion

RG

[Guest f***2f***]

I agree with most everything that has been said. Most quality SPs state on their website or ad that charges are for time not for service and YMMV. That is the best place to shop in my opinion because you don't have to guess. You can ask her what she includes in her donation, I think, if it is unclear to you from her site and I don't think anyone would begrudge you asking for clarification.

What most ladies object to is the chiselers who call and try to get something for nothing or get the lady to cut her donation from the stated fee.

 

One of my ATFs gets upset when a guy calls and says "I'd like to see you but you're too expensive..." or "I've only got this much would you take that?" That's when she bids the guy a quick goodbye. It's like buying anything else...you get what you pay for...her donation is set after carefully taking into account what her expenses are (there is a lot of overhead for a quality provider: room, transport, grooming, toys, sexy clothing, shoes, condoms, etc etc) and the level of service she provides, plus the feedback she's getting about the quality of her service. When you're providing superior service and that is recognized by many as such you get to expect superior compensation.

 

A few years ago I needed a lawyer. I asked around and got the best in town. He was more expensive than the rest but he got the job done professionally and efficiently. He knew his stuff and his advice and experience was worth every penny I paid him because he was good at what he did and I got a high level of service and satisfaction.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

In my experience I have noticed these guys looking for "only service" have seemed to gone to the wayside now that the CL section is no longer in existence. Once in a while I do hear from one and I end the phone call quickly.

[Guest ji*******1]

As far as I am concerened, a set price should be the rule. Whether a client wants to avail themself of what you have to offer is their problem, not yours. There may be some who hav a "sliding scale" but I would expect a woman to be up front with set conditions and price.

[Chanel Reign 28097]

As far as I am concerened, a set price should be the rule. Whether a client wants to avail themself of what you have to offer is their problem, not yours. There may be some who hav a "sliding scale" but I would expect a woman to be up front with set conditions and price.

 

Hazarding a guess; for 99% of any SP's playdates, they are GFE or PSE with a set donation for their time.

 

If you have a menu of other available activities that also has a clearly defined donation, I fail to see the problem. There should be no sliding scale.

 

Some of us also give the option of donation or gift to regulars or members.

 

CERB, in my opinion, is an introduction community. The whole story is at the Ladies website.

 

:-)

[JodyWild 4740]

I Agree With You I Think There Is No Difference At All....But Me For My Regulars I Do My BBBJ Special For 100 Instead Of 140 When Outta Comission For FS...But I Dont Think We Should Drop It To A Crazy Amount

[fortunateone 156618]

As far as I am concerened, a set price should be the rule. Whether a client wants to avail themself of what you have to offer is their problem, not yours. There may be some who hav a "sliding scale" but I would expect a woman to be up front with set conditions and price.

 

 

That's the sort of reply I sometimes give callers, lol. Basically, it isn't up to them to decide what they want to pay, it is up to them to decide if they are willing to pay my rates (or any other sp they contact). It isn't part of my job to listen to their complaints about the rate, and can I do whatever for less.

 

I have a variety of options, non-fs is different than fs, there is a hh, a 45 and an hour. If you can't afford the hour, well it isn't my job to provide the hour for the hh rate for that reason alone. Or because you can go see someone else for that. Go ahead, but remember you called me for a reason.

 

It also isn't my fault that you might have to drive for half an hour to come and see me and need to know if I'm "worth it". Ask the guys who take a ferry to come see me, or drive for 1.5 hours that question, yet they don't expect a discount for their trouble. They simply choose the option that works for their budget, out of the 6 or 7 different rate, service and time combinations that are being offered.

 

The rate negotiator fails to understand that we are not competing with other sps for his $, he is competing with other clients and potential clients for our time. And he is falling short. Why spend time with someone who wants to get a discount, when you can remain free to see someone who will pay the rate you charge.

[roamingguy 300292]

For those wanting only one service and want to dicker with the ladies for a lower price, maybe this guy is who you need in your corner, after all negotiation is negotiation right

Sorry, couldn't resist

 

On a serious note, I'm only looking for one service each and every time, the lady's companionship.

 

RG

[Chanel Reign 28097]

For those wanting only one service and want to dicker with the ladies for a lower price, maybe this guy is who you need in your corner, after all negotiation is negotiation right

Sorry, couldn't resist

 

On a serious note, I'm only looking for one service each and every time, the lady's companionship.

 

RG

 

LOL I love Bill! The guy's gold!

 

I think all regular clients have more than just sex as criteria. Personality and companionship and compatibility are most certainly important. One of the first things I learned was just be yourself. So me in my life is me the SP as well.

 

However, there are some events that require a different "price line". Does that get negotiated, no.

• You want me with you in Tahiti for a week. I am most certainly not going to charge you my hourly rate, nor my daily rate.
  
• An evening of dinner and dancing, again different price.
  
• Outcalls with travel required.
  
• Camping for the weekend, 3sums, group parties, BDSM; all have a different price.
  

But its set and not negotiable. Again its one service, just a different donation.

 

Thanks for the laugh.

[roamingguy 300292]

LOL I love Bill! The guy's gold!

 

I think all regular clients have more than just sex as criteria. Personality and companionship and compatibility are most certainly important. One of the first things I learned was just be yourself. So me in my life is me the SP as well.

 

 

You know, the more it comes up, I wonder why there isn't another menu item on the list

KCCC-kissing,cuddling,conversation and companionship

Seeing an escort is SO MUCH MORE than just sex, and judging by various threads/posts, I don't seem to be alone in wanting this

Just a thought

RG

[Guest C*****tte]

The rate negotiator fails to understand that we are not competing with other sps for his $, he is competing with other clients and potential clients for our time. And he is falling short. Why spend time with someone who wants to get a discount, when you can remain free to see someone who will pay the rate you charge.

 

I very much agree. If I give a discount then not only am I not making my budget I will have given up the spot to a client who will pay the full price.

 

It is also not fair to those who do pay my rate. Negotiating does not respect my loyal regulars.

 

My rate is my rate because it allows me to work as often as I need to given my personal time constraints and with consideration to my work expenses (advertising costs, website work, screening plus time to maintain my personal appearance etc...).