katou 100 Report post Posted January 19, 2014 I agree with you, it's all about respect! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jason53411 100 Report post Posted February 24, 2014 I think it's rediculous for someone to try to get you to lower your rates. The rate is for your time and the pleasure of your company not the specific content. You deserve better and should send the negotiators packing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jason53411 100 Report post Posted February 24, 2014 I think it's rediculous for someone to try to get you to lower your rates. The rate is for your time and the pleasure of your company not the specific content. You deserve better and should send the negotiators packing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgulkar 110 Report post Posted February 27, 2014 First of all, I completely agree with and support an SP/MA's right to offer whichever services at whatever price they choose. If you don't like it, look elsewhere. Now, just for curiousity sake: Would the ladies jump on a DATY-Only service offered by a male SP? If you think this detracts from the purpose of the thread I can spin it off, but I can't help but be curious.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted February 27, 2014 First of all, I completely agree with and support an SP/MA's right to offer whichever services at whatever price they choose. If you don't like it, look elsewhere. Now, just for curiousity sake: Would the ladies jump on a DATY-Only service offered by a male SP? If you think this detracts from the purpose of the thread I can spin it off, but I can't help but be curious.... If seeing a male SP then the lady becomes the client, she in this "relationship" doesn't dictate the rate, the male SP dictates the rate. And the male SP, well it's up to him whether he charges for his time or menu of services. A morning rambling RG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuxeMulvari 65764 Report post Posted February 27, 2014 First of all, I completely agree with and support an SP/MA's right to offer whichever services at whatever price they choose. If you don't like it, look elsewhere. Now, just for curiousity sake: Would the ladies jump on a DATY-Only service offered by a male SP? If you think this detracts from the purpose of the thread I can spin it off, but I can't help but be curious.... As an sp, I can honestly say I'm not a hobbiest, never have been probably never will be, I'm on the receiving end. So, to answer your question, in my humble opinion : Not very likely. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted February 27, 2014 I personally haven't seen too many female clients nor male SP's on CERB. You need to seek an answer from female clients and male SP's. This question is not likely to get answered here RG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack j 110 Report post Posted March 11, 2014 you got that right baby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eros613 130 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 I agree that SP fees should not be negotiated. Anyone looking for less service that what is offered by the SP they choose to contact should pay the fee and enjoy the limited activities they want. If someone only wants a BJ or a HJ then there are plenty of other places to go where a la carte menus are available for that kind of thing. If you contact a full service provider, you should simply pay the full service rate requested without haggling. Negotiations are insulting. If the person negotiating is just cheap and looking to nickel and dime, then its best that all parties walk away early. The fee is for the time spent in the pleasure of the company of your chosen SP and not for any particular activity shared during your time together. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexxxyRebecca 57990 Report post Posted August 4, 2014 Unfortunately, years later after I started that thread.. The problem is still there, and I know will always be there. I find lately an increase of people asking me (Im a SP) for MA service so wanted to have a "better" price. Ok.. Some Sps may offer those service with a MA price for it (massage only + hj) but Im a Sp so my rate are for my time!! I do offer massage as part of my services but my rate stay the same even if you dont want BJ or Fs. There is a plenty of MA advertising everyday I dont get why asking Sp to reduce her rate for it? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jk42 270 Report post Posted August 4, 2014 I can see one of two possibilities. 1) MA services tend to be less than SP services and many believe you should too. (I'm not agreeing with the thought.) 2) Massage from an SP can offer more flexibility for endings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 4, 2014 I can see one of two possibilities. 1) MA services tend to be less than SP services and many believe you should too. (I'm not agreeing with the thought.) 2) Massage from an SP can offer more flexibility for endings. If going for option 2, doesn't hurt to ask if she is willing to do massage, but be prepared to pay her normal fee even if it's "just a bj" you expect as your happy ending. There are some SPs who offer massage ony services as well with different pricing, but they are usually explicit about what ending they provide - and if someone wants more, they need to respect her normal FS rate. To make things clear, I simply say I can offer an erotic rub-down as part of the experience, but don't claim to be a masseuse per se, but the rate is the same. If it's an MA they are seeking, I refer them to other ladies who I know are more adept in that department. I have been offered to do massage with manual ending for a lower price, but that's not my forte, so I'd rather pass because I am an SP, not an MA. And trying to negotiate my rate for whatever reason is a deal breaker for me. PERIOD! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndreaLaroue 1008 Report post Posted August 4, 2014 I soooooo agree with you i get so insulted..... I only offer a bj special on redriver week which os pretty normal and i am very clear about it (on my ad) but its so annoying hearing well your 15min is 100 i only want bj.... men we go by our time not what we do! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179664 Report post Posted August 4, 2014 I used to have a massage only rate, but it would always happen. Right in the middle he would want daty. Um...In my books that full service. So I'd have to stop, clarify and get the extra money and then restart. So now I only have fs rates. Yes I still give a great massage however the choice of ending is then up to the gent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bfog66 538 Report post Posted August 4, 2014 Your rate is your rate, and I completely and wholeheartedly agree and support everyone with their rates. What really does bother me though, and I have run into it a couple of times is when I am told that you are paying for my time, not my service, but by the way you can upgrade and add extras to your service. I am still bound to the same time, but to get lets say a bbbj instead of cbj, it is an extra 20 or something like that. I know that not all do this, but when I see this it really bugs me. This may already be covered somewhere, and I apologize if I am re-hashing old topics. Thanks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 4, 2014 Your rate is your rate, and I completely and wholeheartedly agree and support everyone with their rates. What really does bother me though, and I have run into it a couple of times is when I am told that you are paying for my time, not my service, but by the way you can upgrade and add extras to your service. I am still bound to the same time, but to get lets say a bbbj instead of cbj, it is an extra 20 or something like that. I know that not all do this, but when I see this it really bugs me. This may already be covered somewhere, and I apologize if I am re-hashing old topics. Thanks... Not every provider runs her business the same. That's why if you desire certain services, it's best to clarify with the lady when you book, if it's on the menu for the price quoted. If she upsells you, then you decide if you want to go. If she agrees, and then renegs at the appointment, then that's a different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bfog66 538 Report post Posted August 4, 2014 I understand that each lady runs her own business they way she wants, and that is her choice. All I was stating is that it really bugs me when I see and hear this that is all. As for your recommendations, I already deploy these. Along with a few others. Thanks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabriella Laurence 301887 Report post Posted August 4, 2014 I soooooo agree with you i get so insulted..... I only offer a bj special on redriver week which os pretty normal and i am very clear about it (on my ad) but its so annoying hearing well your 15min is 100 i only want bj.... men we go by our time not what we do! Maybe I am misunderstanding your post but how can you expect people not to ask for "only a BJ" when, once a month, you promote BJ specials on "red river week"? Isn't that focusing on what you do instead of having a (special) consideration for your time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highsexdrivebabe 11800 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 Coucou chérie, would say it all depends where U advertise. Here on CERB if it's either on your profile or U have a website and if they R blind well it's their pb. For we as SP or MA say so much in our ads, profiles and sometimes websites to be clear that hey if they can't get it it's their pb not yours and quite honestly not worth U spending any ink on them sexy. I personally not only advertise here but on some sites where for some I can't be straightforward namely about Greek that I provide so say extra for something more then yes I understand I have gentlemen asking questions. But if U R straight everywhere as of YES this and NO this. Just don't bother. Do have request like just want to perform DATY and DATO on U and when I say sure they go can I have a special I just respond hey it's FS so U know my wages babe!! Never here from there after!! LOL Like many hobbyists responded your wages, your services R yours and hell with the rest sexy!! Gros bisous Barbara xxxooo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 From a guy's perspective, well this guy's perspective, what in god's name does "just a BJ" mean. It is one of the most intimate pleasurable and giving acts a lady offers to man. When a lady is so giving as to provide such an intimate service, afterwards, and during, I kiss her, for the affection she is showing me, and am thankful for the intimacy we share. "Just a BJ"...wtf does that even mean From a gentleman who never uses the phrase "just a ...." for any of the companionship a lady provides. Instead, it is a cherished memory, one I will always have fond memories of A rambling RG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 Coucou chérie, would say it all depends where U advertise. Here on CERB if it's either on your profile or U have a website and if they R blind well it's their pb. For we as SP or MA say so much in our ads, profiles and sometimes websites to be clear that hey if they can't get it it's their pb not yours and quite honestly not worth U spending any ink on them sexy. I personally not only advertise here but on some sites where for some I can't be straightforward namely about Greek that I provide so say extra for something more then yes I understand I have gentlemen asking questions. But if U R straight everywhere as of YES this and NO this. Just don't bother. Do have request like just want to perform DATY and DATO on U and when I say sure they go can I have a special I just respond hey it's FS so U know my wages babe!! Never here from there after!! LOL Like many hobbyists responded your wages, your services R yours and hell with the rest sexy!! Gros bisous Barbara xxxooo There is nothing wrong with charging extra for services not normally considered GFE (eg.g. Greek), but being upfront about it, is the key. And since you for example, do specify that that service s extra, then you are letting them know upfront that for your time it is X$ and if they want Greek, they have to tip you x$ on top of that. No surprises. I think the point Rebecca was making is when guys expect to pay less for what "they" consider outside the realm of a FS escort. Even if the guy just wants to come for a HJ, my rate is the same but if I establish a relationship with him, I may allow him to visit me at the rate I charge when I run specials, but that is me offering it, not him demanding it. Now some SPs do advertise BJ only rates, which is their peragative. But for those of us who don't give a break on that, it is annoying when we are asked "how much for a BJ only" when we don't advertise separate rates. It's like they see other girls doing it and "assume" that we will too. I gave up being annoyed about it a long time ago because sometimes I do believe they some really don't know the etiquette, whereas for others, it's a game to see if they can break us. Especially when they ask not once, but time and time again thinking somehow if they ask long and hard enough, we'll give in. This is not a criticism of anyone, but things were sure simpler in the "old days" when we quoted a certain $ amount based on time and services were never discussed. But no use dwelling on that though. Everyone is entitled to advertise the way they want. But I do cut certain guys slack in not going loco on them for asking because especially for a newbie, navigating the ads out there must be a nightmare at times. I am polite and assertive, but I don't continue to engage. We have to remind ourselves that we are professionals and if we have to spend an extra minute explaining it to them, so be it. I have ended up with some good clients who "got it", came and saw me for my regular rate for just a BJ and everything was fine. It's the WOTs, tire-kickers and repeat texters, callers who don't respect what we tell them the first time, who are problem, really. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highsexdrivebabe 11800 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 Sexy I get U but I do advertise BJ only!! But on some sites and I know U know which ones I am talking about I just can't just be clear as I am here on my CERB profile. All I was trying to say and sorry if I was wrong to any ladies or hobbyists is that it's every SPs or MAs right to offer whatever she wants and if the gents can't read well hey U know!!! And I frigging agree everyone is entitled to advertise what they want sexy!! Big time!! That's what the market is all about!!! Sorry if any of U got me wrong, my français can be in the way! Barbara xxxxooo There is nothing wrong with charging extra for services not normally considered GFE (eg.g. Greek), but being upfront about it, is the key. And since you for example, do specify that that service s extra, then you are letting them know upfront that for your time it is X$ and if they want Greek, they have to tip you x$ on top of that. No surprises. I think the point Rebecca was making is when guys expect to pay less for what "they" consider outside the realm of a FS escort. Even if the guy just wants to come for a HJ, my rate is the same but if I establish a relationship with him, I may allow him to visit me at the rate I charge when I run specials, but that is me offering it, not him demanding it. Now some SPs do advertise BJ only rates, which is their peragative. But for those of us who don't give a break on that, it is annoying when we are asked "how much for a BJ only" when we don't advertise separate rates. It's like they see other girls doing it and "assume" that we will too. I gave up being annoyed about it a long time ago because sometimes I do believe they some really don't know the etiquette, whereas for others, it's a game to see if they can break us. Especially when they ask not once, but time and time again thinking somehow if they ask long and hard enough, we'll give in. This is not a criticism of anyone, but things were sure simpler in the "old days" when we quoted a certain $ amount based on time and services were never discussed. But no use dwelling on that though. Everyone is entitled to advertise the way they want. But I do cut certain guys slack in not going loco on them for asking because especially for a newbie, navigating the ads out there must be a nightmare at times. I am polite and assertive, but I don't continue to engage. We have to remind ourselves that we are professionals and if we have to spend an extra minute explaining it to them, so be it. I have ended up with some good clients who "got it", came and saw me for my regular rate for just a BJ and everything was fine. It's the WOTs, tire-kickers and repeat texters, callers who don't respect what we tell them the first time, who are problem, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexxxyRebecca 57990 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 I understand what you mean and I myself already offer a price for a specific service (example X$ for 15min BJ) and many offer it as well. No problem! We all have the right to advertise what we want. My problem comes when people try to negotiate my rate because they dont want "all" the services that I offer. Example; want cheaper rate because dont want daty. My HH and H rate are all inclusive (I dont charge extra) for a my services but if you decide that you dont want one of them, dont expect a deal!!! If I go at the restaurant and I dont want the potatoes in my plate.. I wont have a reduction.. I just dont eat them. (Sorry for the comparaison) Sexy I get U but I do advertise BJ only!! But on some sites and I know U know which ones I am talking about I just can't just be clear as I am here on my CERB profile. All I was trying to say and sorry if I was wrong to any ladies or hobbyists is that it's every SPs or MAs right to offer whatever she wants and if the gents can't read well hey U know!!! And I frigging agree everyone is entitled to advertise what they want sexy!! Big time!! That's what the market is all about!!! Sorry if any of U got me wrong, my français can be in the way! Barbara xxxxooo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 Sexy I get U but I do advertise BJ only!! But on some sites and I know U know which ones I am talking about I just can't just be clear as I am here on my CERB profile. All I was trying to say and sorry if I was wrong to any ladies or hobbyists is that it's every SPs or MAs right to offer whatever she wants and if the gents can't read well hey U know!!! And I frigging agree everyone is entitled to advertise what they want sexy!! Big time!! That's what the market is all about!!! Sorry if any of U got me wrong, my français can be in the way! Barbara xxxxooo Okay, you may not be able to be clear on those other sites about how much for what, but because you do offer BJ only, then for you it's not a problem when asked. I assume you tell them you have different packages so to speak and ask them what they are looking for? When someone enquiries about my services, I reiterate what is in the ad, because I have had texts "what do you look like", so I don't assume they memorized what's there. Even without asking, I quote my fee just to make sure they are clear, so they know pretty much up front. It's when they try to bargain afterwards, that is annoying. And those one liner texts that come in asking "how much for just a bj" where I have to say "I charge for time, not specific services, so it's $X for hh, hr, etc.". It's just because it's not a level playing field out there, that some guys assume that because some ladies offer "only service" that we all do. It's the reality we have to live with, but it can be frustrating nonetheless for those of us who don't who have the bad apples who try to push it. That was the point I was making. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highsexdrivebabe 11800 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 LOL d'accord avec les patates dans ton assiette que tu ne manges pas !! And really sexy like I explained in one of my post when namely today that guy asked for a special price for he just wanted to perform DATY and DATO on me and I said make my day but pay my HH or HR FS! Or U know what just tell them straight if over the phone U saw my ad, profile, site and it's clear so U have the answer chéri ! If they keep on going and wanting to bargain just say no thank U and hang out and if they text don't text back. C'est ce que je fais. U just have to be firm with some gentlemen as U pretty well know there R ladies on some sites offering such lower wages that it's killing our biz but U know what and I know U've had the experience such as I have they go back to ones that advertise and keep up with what they advertise and R not teaser for the gent to cum in and cash for one service after the other. Pretty sure U heard some of their horror stories right sexy?! S'ils ne sont pas contents de ce que tu réponds qu'ils allent voir ailleurs !! That's what I tell them sexy!! Bisous Barbara xxxooo I understand what you mean and I myself already offer a price for a specific service (example X$ for 15min BJ) and many offer it as well. No problem! We all have the right to advertise what we want. My problem comes when people try to negotiate my rate because they dont want "all" the services that I offer. Example; want cheaper rate because dont want daty. My HH and H rate are all inclusive (I dont charge extra) for a my services but if you decide that you dont want one of them, dont expect a deal!!! If I go at the restaurant and I dont want the potatoes in my plate.. I wont have a reduction.. I just dont eat them. (Sorry for the comparaison) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites