Former Harper advisor had deal with escort for First Nations water contracts

[Miss Scarlett 25073]

Completely agree with you! I think Harper only did this because it had already become public. If it hadn't it would still be "under the RUG".

 

I see a number of posters have credited the PM with being prompt in referring this indiscrection to the Mounties. I would on the other hand be suspect that this wasn't known about in government circles already, and to be fair maybe his staff didn't inform him. It's called plausable deniability.

 

I'm a cynic and think Harpers refferral was prompted not for any lofty reasons but because it was about to become public when released in the media.

[E.D. man 691]

How will this effect legal issues in court and how will it effect cerb. As Canadian prostitution (sic) laws are for debate in Canada and Ontario.

This worries me and should worry both sp's and hobbiests.

[E.D. man 691]

Not everyone reads the news section, Some people don't like reading news. I am one who keeps foregtting to read the news on here. I usually think of news as stuff from whats happenning in Japan and other stuff in canada and the world.

[Guest f***2f***]

Prostitution plays a very minor part in this story. It's mentioned because of the titillation factor to garner headlines and to make some statements about his character.

The story here is that a senior advisor to three prime ministers is being investigated for influence peddling.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

This does not sit well ..... The media is trying to turn a very clear case of (possible) conflict of interest into something else (It has nothing to do with miss McPherson being an ex-escort)

 

Vote Liberals to prevent an ultra right religious take over of this great country. We need jobs, more funding for the poor, the weak, the poor, the elderly, the sick. In summary social justice NOT more fighter jets, more prisons, more scandals and more corruption....

[imkrissy 544]

good point E.D man.

[April Dawn 12207]

I usually just go down the new posts. Keeps things fresh :p

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[Miss Scarlett 25073]

Not everyone reads the news section, Some people don't like reading news. I am one who keeps foregtting to read the news on here. I usually think of news as stuff from whats happenning in Japan and other stuff in canada and the world.

 

 

Agreed that not everyone reads the news section, and that some people don't like the news, but....

 

It would be logical if someone did hear something about this industry they would come to a place like this and check the "news" category, or the "legal" category depending on subject.

 

But for Mod to have to keep track of 50 threads (of the same thing) in 5 different areas is a pain in the BUTT!

 

Cerb is all about finding stuff you are interested in, there is a wide variety of everything here, where everyone can express themselves freely. I did not dispute his comments, but he should have looked for an existing thread before creating a new one!

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

Leaving aside any comment on the present thread ...

 

Whenever I think I might want to start a thread on a particular topic, I always plug a key word or two into the "Search" option. I find that's the simplest way to see if a thread already exists or not about what I'm interested in. Doing a search like that only takes a few seconds.

 

But it's understandable, folks see something that catches their imagination and they run with it ...

[PistolPete 61421]

Instead of making comments with explanation points and capital letters trying a get a point across, comes across more of the board we all enjoy.

 

Leaving aside any comment on the present thread ...

 

Whenever I think I might want to start a thread on a particular topic, I always plug a key word or two into the "Search" option. I find that's the simplest way to see if a thread already exists or not about what I'm interested in. Doing a search like that only takes a few seconds.

 

But it's understandable, folks see something that catches their imagination and they run with it ...

[Parker 19761]

This could be why they're bringing up the prostitution bit..

 

"McPherson has come a long way since being recruited as a prostitute from a Vanier playground.She was only 13 when she started turning tricks for junk food and cigarettes, then money.

 

 

In a meeting with the Citizen while she was still working as an escort, she claimed one of her clients was a member of the Ottawa Police Service.

She also gave the Citizen a tour of the Vanier playground where it all began, and pointed out the hotels where she took money for sex."

 

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Businessman+Girlfriend+Water+Deal/4464685/story.html#ixzz1GzdV94Jd

 

If she gave them an interview about how she had been exploited and ended up in prostitution.. well they're probably going to toss that in there.

[Juice 2105]

When I read the paper I found it very funny that Harper's advisor was associated with an SP, considering the Puritanical zeal his party has against our hobby.

 

BTW Do you guys really believe that Carson's influence peddling and so on would be such a shock to the Conservatives (as they claim) when he has been known to them since the 1970s?

 

I foresee some very bad times ahead for us if they get a majority.

[Guest Ou**or**n]

Perhaps the fact that he is in 60's and she is in her early 20's (which suggests that their relationship is based on something more than pure love) gives reason for the newspapers to mention that she is former escort.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Perhaps the fact that he is in 60's and she is in her early 20's (which suggests that their relationship is based on something more than pure love) gives reason for the newspapers to mention that she is former escort.

Yeah, but they're not just mentioning it, they are making it a focal point. For example, the Ottawa Sun has her height, weight, hourly rate, etc. Why is this relevant?

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

I hate when merging means loosing posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Yeah' date=' but they're not just mentioning it, they are making it a focal point. For example, the Ottawa Sun has her height, weight, hourly rate, etc. Why is this relevant?[/quote']

 

Very true. Totally irrelevant. Some papers also her ad on cerb, her review as well as her descriptions. And it wasn't only Ottawa Sun. I saw it in a few other papers in other cities too. Totally unacceptable.

 

Perhaps the fact that he is in 60's and she is in her early 20's (which suggests that their relationship is based on something more than pure love) gives reason for the newspapers to mention that she is former escort.

 

On the age issue, well this was a decision between two consenting adults, and totally legal. It wouldn't be (and wasn't) my decision but nevertherless it was mutual and legal. It may be a scandel but it is not a sex scandel as media tries to paint.

 

The real issue is a possible conflict of interest and miss Mcpherson's ex-job, descriptions, review, .... is totally irrelevant. They are taking freedom of press too far in this case, in my view.

[Guest Ou**or**n]

The real issue is a possible conflict of interest and miss Mcpherson's ex-job, descriptions, review, .... is totally irrelevant. They are taking freedom of press too far in this case, in my view.

 

In an idealistic world, sure. However in this world sex sells and finding a sexual angle to a story makes it more interesting to people. It is the interest that sells newspapers (and thus drives paid advertising), not the inherent relevance of the story.

 

When people see a 60+ year old getting engaged to a pretty 20 something you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that money is involved. If he is potentially willing to pay for her company then it is possible to many that he may assist her ways that put himself in a conflict of interest. That fact that she is in a former escort does suggest she would be likely to be involved with him because of money. Money ties it all together with sex the icing on the cake.

 

Her former high profile and website made it all the easier for the media to get both images and concrete facts to 'back up' their stories.

 

If she didn't publish pics of her face do you think she would be getting this much exposure? There are many valuable lessons here.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Love could happen between people of different ages and it is not always for money. Mr. Carson may be older but he was holding a top job, financially secure, likely handsome and fit for his age may be a womanizer who any woman may love. It is the inner beauties that counts especially for a lady.

 

In an idealistic world, sure. However in this world sex sells and finding a sexual angle to a story makes it more interesting to people. It is the interest that sells newspapers (and thus drives paid advertising), not the inherent relevance of the story..

 

I agree with your first paragraph though that they are trying to sell a story and their newspapers but likely don't care who are the people who may be hurt in the process. Until proven guilty they must be assumed innocent. This is the principal of a justice system that we all rely on. Lets not breaks these fundemantals....To me thus far,miss McPherson is the victim unless and until proven otherwise.

 

Her former high profile and website made it all the easier for the media to get both images and concrete facts to 'back up' their stories.

 

If she didn't publish pics of her face do you think she would be getting this much exposure? There are many valuable lessons here.

 

Not sure I understand this one. She had to have pictures on her web site while she was working as escort. How many people would call someone without pictures!!!???.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

In an idealistic world, sure. However in this world sex sells and finding a sexual angle to a story makes it more interesting to people. It is the interest that sells newspapers (and thus drives paid advertising), not the inherent relevance of the story.

I understand, but this is why it's important to be critical of the media, which is exactly what we are doing.

[Guest Ou**or**n]

Love could happen between people of different ages and it is not always for money. Mr. Carson may be older but he was holding a top job, financially secure, likely handsome and fit for his age may be a womanizer who any woman may love.

 

I think the pic in the online Citizen would put parts of that statement to question. In terms of financial security I agree completely.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

I think the pic in the online Citizen would put parts of that statement to question. In terms of financial security I agree completely.

 

As they said beauty is in the eyes of beholder. Also, pictures cannot capture inner beauties very important to most ladies, however, not my point.

 

My point :

 

Age difference, ex-job, descriptions, reviews, personal choices, ..... are irrelevant to the investigation of a possible conflict of interest and innocent until proven otherwise.

[Guest Ou**or**n]

Age difference, ex-job, descriptions, reviews, personal choices, ..... are irrelevant to the investigation of a possible conflict of interest and innocent until proven otherwise.

 

I haven't seen much of people judging guilt in this thread. This story is really a brief titillation and will likely disappear in a couple of days barring any new information.

 

I find it ironic that a forum dedicated to the sale of sex has issue with the media using sex in stories to sell advertising.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

I find it ironic that a forum dedicated to the sale of sex has issue with the media using sex in stories to sell advertising.

The obvious difference being that on this forum we promote the CONSENSUAL sale of sex. I don't think Miss Leanna consented to have her sexuality sell a story, nor is she profiting from it in any way.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

The obvious difference being that on this forum we promote the CONSENSUAL sale of sex. I don't think Miss Leanna consented to have her sexuality sell a story' date=' nor is she profiting from it in any way.[/quote']

 

Totally agree with Megan. Couldn't respond better myself. Couldn't give you any more rep point and my Nomination button has disappreared in thin air!!!!.

 

I never met miss Leanna, but her being outed like this, I feel bad for her.

[Guest Ou**or**n]

The obvious difference being that on this forum we promote the CONSENSUAL sale of sex. I don't think Miss Leanna consented to have her sexuality sell a story' date=' nor is she profiting from it in any way.[/quote']

 

There is a difference when you become news whether you like it or not. My point is not to argue in defense of how far the news organizations have gone (which I think we all agree is too far). Rather my point is the dangers of what we make 'public'. Faces on websites can haunt you years later. Most of the content on this board is public (and easily indexed by Google for fast finding by journalists).

 

The news organizations only had to sit at their computers and access public information to get the information for that story. Whether they should is a debate, but the fact that they could should give us all pause.