Guest S*rca****sid Report post Posted March 25, 2011 I am quite disturbed by this that our society (or the authorities at the Navigateur school board ) is so backward and conservative in thinking.....I am glad to read that there were also some supportive comments about her private life being her business though. what she does in her spare time (outside her usual 9 to 5 working hours) and private life is entirely her business. To be suspended for what one does in her or his private life is totally unacceptable in this day and age. I remember the night a dozen years ago when I myself just out of graduate school and in my late twenties, I started teaching position in a university as assistant prof. It was my first and very stressful job (teaching high volume noisy engineering students, research, supervision, office hours, etc.) so I needed relaxation, every weekend. I started going to strip bars and one night I came across my first year students in a strip bar who started pointing at me and laughing (like I commited a crime!!!). It was late at night well after my usual 9 to 5 working hours. Then they must have spread the word within the department about me such that I had real difficulty controlling my classes afterwards.... I quit the job a few months later (at the end of the academic year) or I would have been a full prof by now. It is very disappointing to see that our society way of thinking has not changed in a dozen years. Her being a porn actress does NOT make her a worse school clerk or office assistant or a danger to the students in that school. It is time that we (or the damn school board) as a society to grow up..... This is twenty first century lol. In fact it should be the authorities at the Navigatwheur school board who should be suspended for wrongdful suspension. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tr*****e Report post Posted March 25, 2011 You know, guys(and gals, lol), in another 20 or so years, today's students will be the teachers. Then we get to see a little more tolerance in the 'mainstream' systems, hopefully. But then, maybe tomorrow's students will think that we're the hyper-conservatives. No, I don't think it's just a matter of perspective, as intolerance is always intolerant(wait a second...). But I do hope that as our enlightenment and de-mystification of things like sex work progress on a society-wide scale, things will get better for all, not just 'normal' looking(what is normal anyway? that makes me feel narrow-minded, just saying that at all) people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highlandman100 100 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 I agree that what people do after work is no business but their own. I do however know that teachers for sure, and probably most other employees in a school are held to a higher standard. Whether this is right or not is a different story. There will probably be a vocal minority of parents that want her out, and the silent majority of dads wanting to know the website address lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzirider 737 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 I'd be asking the parents of the 14 yr old boy..... Do you let your son watch porn ? http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/962303--teen-suspended-for-outing-porn-star-school-secretary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickkm 328 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 ...yeah and the school board members are probably viewing the film over and over again to make sure they have all the facts before making their decision too!! lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S******s*m Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Well, the latest on this story - she has been let go... Appears she is fighting the decision - good for her! http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/canada/school_board_fires_employee_over_porn_career/03ffbc18 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 This is sad and apalling. Disgusting is more like it when I see idiots are in the position of power. Yes the values being taught at their damn school is to sneak into people's private life and punish them if they don't agree with it. It also teaches the students to spy on people and be rewarded. Disgusting!!!. I hope that those in the appeal be more mature thinking and I hope she wins the appeal and follows up on that to get the damn school board members fired and out of position of power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 I heard about this on the radio yesterday and apparently Jay Leno is looking to have her appear on his show! But she's likely to need a translator they said. I hope so.. I would watch that episode for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribbles 6031 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 What's interesting is that the police informed the school board, which is how this all came to pass. They informed the school board not, as they put it, because she was doing anything illegal, but because they felt they had a "moral obligation" to disclose it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toine 30556 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 I was watching the news a few minutes ago, and they interviewed students from the high-school where she worked. The kids appeared unanimous in stating that what she did outside work is nobody's business but her own. Now, it appears she's been dismissed 'with cause', and without a lump-sum payment. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would also mean that this mother of two would have to make do without any Employment Insurance benefits as well... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 I heard that one of her students informed on her!!!. Yes sadly if she is fired, she wouldn't qualify for employment insurance. People get fired for outrageously bad job performance or breaking ethics related to their jobs and usually for an illegal act. This is very unsual and very sad that someone is fired for what some minority idiots may consider immoral activities outside her working hours and outside her working environment for doing something totally legal. Outrageous and disgusting and total injustice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 What I heard on the radio segment was they found out because a student found her online and asked her for an autograph.. and of course alerted other students to her porn. A dream come true for many of them I'm sure! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 9, 2011 If she has no involvement with the students, how did a student know that Ardente worked for the school board as well as star in the porn video. Don't know the specifics of her employment, she may have a morals clause in her contract. But I've heard she is filing a wrongful dismissal suit. As for passing judgement, not me. But IMHO, where kids are involved, there has to be concern. Some ramblings RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted April 9, 2011 Kids are not supposed to have access to porn site and if they do then their parents should be fired. A clerk working in a school can be seen by students. Students don't only see teachers lol. I could be wrong but I wonder if same thing would have happened if it was a male school clerk in porn video??!!!. Wrongful dismissal is exactly what it is and I hope she wins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted April 9, 2011 But IMHO, where kids are involved, there has to be concern. Care you elaborate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toine 30556 Report post Posted April 9, 2011 Typically, an office clerk in a high school will have limited interactions with students, and very-very likely none whatsoever that is not supervised or not in broad sight of everyone else in school. I'd doubt her contract would have contain a morality clause; unlikely for clerical workers in a public school, though possible (but not that likely) for others such as teachers and principals who are more widely expected to be role models for kids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribbles 6031 Report post Posted April 9, 2011 The radio segment I heard clearly stated that it was the police that informed the school board, and that it was discovered that the students already knew AFTER the police blew the whistle on her to the school board. I'm just a little troubled as to why it is deemed acceptable that the police informed on her when they preface their disclosure by saying she hasn't done anything wrong. They did it out of a "moral obligation?" At what point did public safety officers become morality enforcers? Is that what we pay the police to do? And, how is their idea of morality suddenly accepted as universal? What if they felt homosexuality was immoral? Should they be allowed to inform on a gay teacher? If they felt that her extracurricular employment was a distraction or problem for the students, they could have offered to transfer her to another position or department. It was made clear that the school board elected not to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Care you elaborate? When I say that kids are involved, they are seeing porn. Back in my day, porn was playboy, nowadays, playboy is considered mild, it is equal to what people magazine was in the 1970's For younger kids it is inappropriate imho to see that, it's not the same as sneaking a look at playboy (in fact in my youth, some places required id to buy playboy, believe it or not) My comment wasn't against being a porn actress, or this woman, it's just this news story shows the access kids have to adult entertainment...and adult entertainment should be accessible to adults only (and I'm not naive, I know kids with the computer world we live in, can access it too) And I may be wrong too, but I'm thinking back to the day when I was a underage youth growing up RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamanthaEvans 166767 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 I've heard the story about students in the school outing her, not the one about the police. I do wonder, if the police story is true, who is monitoring their morality. It seems to me that they need a firm, guiding hand! This woman doesn't seem to have been doing anything illegal and apparently had only limited contact with students in the school. Dismissal is not appropriate, here. I can see why the school might be concerned that she had been outed and that could interfere with her work and so on, but there are ways to deal with that kind of thing. Instead, a single mom with two kids is out of a job. A wrongful dismissal suit will take a very long time to be resolved and she's not entitled to EI. Sadly, this is the kind of thing that drives some women into the sex trade. What I mean to say is that putting her in such a difficult position by forcing her into unemployment without even EI benefits limits her options. She was already making porn and I'd venture to say that she did it at least in part because she needed the money. Catch-22 is written all over this! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phaedrus 209521 Report post Posted April 12, 2011 Unfortunately, I think her fate was pretty much sealed as soon as 'sex' and 'school' appeared in the same story. That's precisely the sort of thing that brings out the knee-jerk 'won't somebody think of the children' brigade irrespective of the salient facts, and regrettably there aren't that many decision-makers who will fight for a rational decision in the face of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ftn40 824 Report post Posted April 12, 2011 Unfortunately, I think her fate was pretty much sealed as soon as 'sex' and 'school' appeared in the same story. That's precisely the sort of thing that brings out the knee-jerk 'won't somebody think of the children' brigade irrespective of the salient facts, and regrettably there aren't that many decision-makers who will fight for a rational decision in the face of that. Absolutely. This has nothing to do with protecting children. There was no indiscretion on the part of a teacher who directly influences the minds of their students which might somehow be twisted as grounds for dismissal. They just did not want a person to work at their school that was involved with porn. And yet, how many of their students view porn as part of a natural curiosity about sexual relations? Just a tad ironic that a high school would spend its time passing moral judgments in a vain attempt to suppress sexual expression when they should be educating their students about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted April 25, 2011 It is a sad story. Poor woman just trying to make ends meet and now she has lost her job with no EI. Where is justice in that?. And the story about the 14 year old student is disturbing at best. He is the only criminal in this story. I wonder how he will turn up to be 10 years from now. The school board are too idiots and also guilty of wrongful dismissal. It is heart breaking to see that in the 21 century even in an advanced thinking country, a gendre discrimination of this kind exists and goes unpunished. Would any of these events had happened if it was a male school clerk. I don't think so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paradise Spa 24019 Report post Posted April 25, 2011 Sad situation here! If she had been doing part-time work as a hairdresser this would not be happening. Pretty sad for this girl she has done nothing wrong in my eyes. Her second job was legal so what is the problem. People who judges others on moral issues rather than legal issues are pathetic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliasUndies 7288 Report post Posted April 26, 2011 Small Minded people like to cause trouble. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites