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[Guest s****i*]

So is there no such thing as magic?

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[Capital Hunter 18263]

With recent polls putting the NDP at striking distance from conservatives (some as little as a few percentage points), a vote for NDP is NOT a vote for conservatives anymore, but rather it is a vote to elect an NDP government and Prime Minister Layton. At this point it is the liberals who are splitting the center left votes.

 

Latest poll by Forum Research, showing a tightening gap between the surging NDP and the leading Conservatives, with the left-leaning party just three points behind the Tories. 31% of respondents said they support the NDP, while the Conservatives slipped from 36% to 34% in the most recent poll. Again, the Liberals are at 22%, sitting squarely in third place. Let push the NDP over the conservative by voting NDP on Monday.

 

Voting for NDP appears right now to be the best strategy to vote against the corrupt arrogant government of Harper and his undemocratic scandalous regime. Those who plan to vote for liberals to keep Harper out got to remember the new fact now, that by voting for liberals now you actually vote for Harper. My Opinion as for the OP has now changed to electing an NDP government to implement policies that would benefit people (the seniors, the sick, the poor, the students.....) with hearts and minds rather than the heartless corporations and the rich and some of the mindless politicians.

[E.D. man 691]

There has been a big increase this year in the women and youth vote which is benefiting the NDP.

 

They are predicting a record breaking turnout for this election.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

... Those who plan to vote for liberals to keep Harper out got to remember the new fact now, that by voting for liberals now you actually vote for Harper...

 

Of course, SA is thinking of the big picture -- which is really made up of 308 smaller pictures. Members of the House of Commons are elected by individual riding. So if anyone plans on casting a "strategically" anti-Conservative vote, they should first know which party is the leading "alternative to Harper" in their particular Electoral District. There's no blanket rule that can be applied to all ridings.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Yes that is very true WIT. Very good point. If liberals are leading or second in your riding then voting liberals may be best to keep the Tories out or at the very least deprive them from majority otherwise if NDP is leading or second in your riding then voting NDP is best to keep Harper out. If I am not mistaken though most recent polls indicating between 90 to 100 seats for NDP and about 50 to 60 for liberals (and about 130 seats for Tories) but the way liberal support is evaporating so fast it is hard to tell.

 

Not enough there right now to prevent a conservative minority government (not good enough for me) but if liberal votes go to NDP, Tories will be out altogether so this was the purpose of my earlier post. I Couldn't give any more reps to you for pointing out the fact as you did, so I nominated your post (You have so many great posts lol I keep on having this problem with your posts WIT!!!).

[RobX 2084]

Of course, SA is thinking of the big picture -- which is really made up of 308 smaller pictures. Members of the House of Commons are elected by individual riding. So if anyone plans on casting a "strategically" anti-Conservative vote, they should first know which party is the leading "alternative to Harper" in their particular Electoral District. There's no blanket rule that can be applied to all ridings.

 

You make a very valid point. Here is one the websites providing voting projections on a riding-by-riding basis:

 

Project Democracy - Ridings by province

http://www.projectdemocracy.ca/canada-riding-lookup/province

[Gentleman11 10508]

I'm a bit of a political junkie and love to follow politics in general using many other vehicles, but don't really see the need for it here. Maybe I'm still a newbie, but none-the-less, huge fan of this site for its intended purposes - I love the ladies.

 

Musings from a tired political amateur....

[RobX 2084]

I'm a bit of a political junkie and love to follow politics in general using many other vehicles, but don't really see the need for it here.

 

I think that discussing the Federal election here is very relevant because, unlike other vehicles, here we can openly discuss the election in the context of sex worker issues. Elsewhere if you mention that one of the reasons that you don't support the Conservatives is because their policies are the most hostile towards sex workers, you're liable to raise some eyebrows.

[thompo69 198]

The budget deficit is actually 28 billion.

 

http://ca.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idCATRE73K4NT20110421

 

No, that number is incomplete. The last full deficit accounting (ie. a full fiscal year) was $55.6 billion. The number you cite is a) an estimate, and b) only 11 of 12 months. The initial question is still valid. How do the Tories plan to go from $55.6 billion to nothing by 2014?

[Capital Hunter 18263]

I'm a bit of a political junkie and love to follow politics in general using many other vehicles, but don't really see the need for it here. Maybe I'm still a newbie, but none-the-less, huge fan of this site for its intended purposes - I love the ladies.

 

Musings from a tired political amateur....

 

No, politics and sex industry are related. If you are aware how the conservatives stand on this issue then you would be interested too. A conservative MP (Joy Smith) wishes to implement the Nordic system in Canada (which virtually will kill the industry as it will likely end hobbying,at least for me or most which would sent hobbyists to six month in jail for consensual sex) and what conservatives stand on the issue is to make prostitution (even seeing escorts and even outcalls) ILLEGAL.

 

As it has been mentioned in other threads if you are still not interested you can always steer away from the politics related threads but many of us are for above reason and more (generally politics affects our every day life. Our taxes, our jobs, our prosperity, our lifestyle, our freedom, our well being.... ) Cerb is more than a recommendation board nowadays where we come to see or read sex related stuff. It has evolved to become quite a community with DIVERSE subjects of interest to all members.

[Guest s******ecan****]

No, that number is incomplete. The last full deficit accounting (ie. a full fiscal year) was $55.6 billion. The number you cite is a) an estimate, and b) only 11 of 12 months. The initial question is still valid. How do the Tories plan to go from $55.6 billion to nothing by 2014?

 

Read the article, its very clear, if you're going to quote the 55.6 number you might as well quote the deficit from 1987, or 1995, or the current deficit in the US or the speed of light etc.

 

As to how any of the parties plan to reduce the deficit (especially if we end up in a minority) the reality is none of them are likely to have the political will to actually do it. Chretien and Martin are the only examples we have of politicians who managed to do this, and they needed an overwhelming majority operating in the face of a near crisis situation to pull it off. Our country was facing a credit downgrade and serious people were talking up the "benefits" of simply defaulting on our debt.

In addition a total lack of discussion regarding healthcare in this election is a serious omission by both the parties and journalists in this campaign. Reform is badly needed and its best to begin now before we have another crisis on our hands, but nobody wants to discuss the sacred cow.

 

My own view is the likely result on Monday will see little progress in deficit reduction or perhaps even a worsening of it.

[thompo69 198]

Read the article, its very clear, if you're going to quote the 55.6 number you might as well quote the deficit from 1987, or 1995, or the current deficit in the US or the speed of light etc.

 

Yes, it is quite clear -- the accounting for the 2010-11 fiscal year is not complete. The most recent number we have is for the 2009-10 year, which showed a deficit of $55.6 billion.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Since 2006 while most Canadian families facing economic hardship, umemployment and heavy debts, stephen Harper has been rewarding the corporations with billions of dollars of tax breaks and loans. He has been bribing the Tory constituencies by massive spendings on borrowed money. The money that the next generation will have to pay. Favoritism, bribery, scandals, corruption, arrogance has been typical of Harper regime since 2006. Does Harper deserves to be voted to form another government. Do you need 4 more years of all above. The answer is a clear NO and that explains the reason why NDP is surging and Canadians are turning to Charismatic NDP leader to save them from the evils of Harper and indifference of visiting professor, Ignatieff.

[RobX 2084]

The Toronto Star reports that some Bloc Quebecois members are now endorsing the NDP:

"Two Bloc members endorse NDP"

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/982823--two-bloc-members-endorse-ndp

 

Also, CTV News is now reporting that the Toronto Star itself, a long time supporter of the Liberal Party, will officially announce their endorsement of the NDP in their Saturday edition.

[Old Dog 179138]

I dunno..... I never ever thought I would say this.... but I saw Harper in Kingston on TV today and the man is sporting a spare tire around his middle now.... I have to respect that....

[Guest s******ecan****]

Yes, it is quite clear -- the accounting for the 2010-11 fiscal year is not complete. The most recent number we have is for the 2009-10 year, which showed a deficit of $55.6 billion.

 

Yeah that last month will surely add 15 billion (rolls eyes)

 

Your're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. As you yourself point out the 55.6 is from 2009-2010.....you know the past.....

 

 

Your original question was how can they go from 55.6 to 0? Its no longer 55.6 in less your question is meant to be some sort of exercise in time travel.

 

Perhaps the final figure for 2010-2011 will be higher than 28 or maybe it will be less, it is however the most current data, your reliance on the 55.6 is nothing but rhetoric, one can only assume your original question was not a serious one.

 

I'm not even a supporter of the Harper government but lazy arguments based on a logical fallacy serve no purpose.

[thompo69 198]

Yeah that last month will surely add 15 billion (rolls eyes)

 

We won't know how much it will add until the fall.

 

Your're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. As you yourself point out the 55.6 is from 2009-2010.....you know the past.....

 

Yes, 2009-2010, the current, most recent accounting we have. The 2010-2011 numbers (the real ones, not the estimates), will not be available for some months.

 

Your original question was how can they go from 55.6 to 0?

 

It was not my original question. But it is a fair one.

 

Perhaps the final figure for 2010-2011 will be higher than 28 or maybe it will be less, it is however the most current data, your reliance on the 55.6 is nothing but rhetoric, one can only assume your original question was not a serious one.

 

That's my point. My reliance on the $55.6 billion number is not rhetoric, but reality. It is the only actual number we have. The numbers for 2010-11 are not "data" but estimates.

 

I'm not even a supporter of the Harper government but lazy arguments based on a logical fallacy serve no purpose.

 

Agreed, so please stop making them.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

 

Your original question was how can they go from 55.6 to 0? .

 

I believe that was my original question that I asked if someone can tell me with all the spending they plan (many billions on jets, jails and corporate tax cuts) how they are going to eliminate the 56 billion dollar deficit by 2014?. Unless they massively cut on spending (on health care....) and burn the people who work for them and put them out of work.

[E.D. man 691]

Now we know Jack layton would enjoy being a member of CERB, So vote for the rub and tug master Jack Layton.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

So, tomorrow is the big day. Lets keep the cons (conservatives) out. Be informed as what they stand on prostitution laws. There is no doubt about it. They want to make it illegal and if they form a majority they will do it (even consensual sex and outcall escorts).

 

If their scandalous corrupt regime is not bad enough for you or if the way they reward the rich and corporations is not bad enough for you or if their massive cuts plan on government spending and social programs to buy jets and build jails is not bad enough for you, then for this reason alone, if you like your hobby you know what your vote should be.

 

Voting strategically is to look at the vote count (link below, thanks to Robx) in your constituency and if NDP is ahead and competing against a con then vote for NDP and if the liberal candidate is ahead and competing against a con, then vote liberal. ABH (Anything but 4 more years of Harper).

 

Project Democracy - Ridings by province

http://www.projectdemocracy.ca/canad...ookup/province

[Guest tr*****e]

So, tomorrow is the big day. Lets keep the cons (conservatives) out. Be informed as what they stand on prostitution laws. There is no doubt about it. They want to make it illegal and if they form a majority they will do it (even consensual sex and outcall escorts). So, if you like your hobby you know what your vote should be.

 

Yup, my thoughts exactly.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Too close for comfort....

 

CON - 152

NDP - 93

LIB - 49

BQ - 14

 

Cons need only 3 more seats to form a majority based on latest Nanos seat projections which also puts them at 37% nationally. Scary!!!. It is ridiculous that a party forms a majority with only 37% of the popular votes. Canadian electrol system need changing lol. In no language a majority is only 37%.

 

http://cdnelectionwatch.blogspot.com/2011/05/nanos-tories-by-64.html?showComment=1304257228747#c8275810300148789034

 

Nanos will release another poll at 9pm tonight containing data from today.

[thompo69 198]

Too close for comfort....

 

CON - 152

NDP - 93

LIB - 49

BQ - 14

 

Cons need only 3 more seats to form a majority based on latest Nanos seat projections which also puts them at 37% nationally. Scary!!!. It is ridiculous that a party forms a majority with only 37% of the popular votes. Canadian electrol system need changing lol. In no language a majority is only 37%.

 

http://cdnelectionwatch.blogspot.com/2011/05/nanos-tories-by-64.html?showComment=1304257228747#c8275810300148789034

 

Nanos will release another poll at 9pm tonight containing data from today.

 

Why don't we wait until the election results before worrying about the sky falling. Polls are all over the place, and seat projections are notoriously unreliable.

[E.D. man 691]

Make sure you get out and vote today, no matter which party, I voted the rub and tug party NDP

[April Dawn 12207]

Woo Hoo!!!! This is the first year that more then I voted out of my circle of friends!! Also when I voted they said they had already had more the total amount of votes last go around by 2!! I am very excited to see what happens!

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