moonshine 399 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 If that is the case, then that is really sad. We are ALL grown adults here, every man has different taste. This is not high school anymore If this truly is the case then it's sad as someone cannot fully express their feelings. I remember reading a thread on another board in the past where they were discussing a larger lady's review. Of course the thread quickly turned negative where someone quoted "Fat chicks are like mopeds...they're fun to ride but you wouldn't want your friends to see you on." I hope this isn't the mentality here. Everyone has their own tastes where physical attributes are concerned. It is sad, but some people never grow up. Very common occurrance with the male species actually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kubrickfan 12836 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 Apex, I dont think you have anything to apologize for either as you obviously intended your comments as a compliment. This is a great topic and there are some delicate and sensitive issues here. In reading through the entire thread, and thinking more about VJ's and the other ladies' comments, I wonder if the guys dont owe more to the ladies in their reviews, especially the ladies that they have seen more than once, to help keep those reviews current. This is especially true on cerb, where the lack of reviews is often interpreted (for better or worse) as a bad thing. I imagine the same impression might exist for a lady that doesn't have any recent reviews even though that lady might be a wonderful companion, and I can see how that could be very hurtful to the lady in question. I dont think the guys do it intentionally, they just get lazy and forget to post a new review. I have never met VJ, but the ladies I have seen on multiple occasions are ... for lack of a better word ... friends of sorts, and I would never intentionally hurt a friend. Therefore, going forward, I intend to supplement a review every time I see a lady more than once, with the sole exception being an appointment that didn't go well. Fortunately, that happens very infrequently! And I suggest the other guys here on cerb do the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toine 30556 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 As a general rule, I do not reveal my cerb handle to the ladies I see. It means I can write (or not) reco's with all the required sincerity. I can understand why some SPs may suggest that a reco be written. Self-employed workers, like the ladies on CERB, depend on recognition to manage advertising costs and cover substantial operating costs associated with hotel rooms, etc. As with anything, there are better and worse ways to suggest that a reco be written, if the experience was good. On a different note, I have never had any lady asking for a reco, directly or indirectly, even among those to whom I had revealed I am on CERB. I have no problem whatsoever praising SPs who were nice to me. I have no illusion regarding my looks or personality, and I truly appreciate the ladies' capacity to be warm, friendly and giving when with me. I also attempt to convey this in my reco's, not details about the encounter, but the ability to establish that special connection with someone... Beyond the reco's counts, no one can last long in this world without providing a really nice experience. I also agree that attraction is as much intellectual as physical, and there are some ladies here on CERB whose contributions shine and make them so bloody hot. Lastly, this topic has come in various forms over the past, and repeat reco's are quite valuable... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobX 2084 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 (edited) I fail to see why having an SP ask for a review is such a serious offense, especially when she gave such fantastic service. To me, it is similar to a colleague, whom you respect, asking for a job reference, or a contractor who did an excellent job for you asking if he could give your name as a reference. Would you then vow never to use that contractor's services again? Edited April 2, 2011 by RobX info 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jughead 45 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 I have recently seen a lady for a service, and after the service she had asked me to post a review here for her. I have never been ask by a lady to submit a review/recomadation or not do do so. Each encounter is different and unique. I have only once booked through the board. I do believe the publicly speaking of the board is some that is just not done and that the intimate details of an experience should not be post only general comment about have a good time, how hot the lady is, if I would repeat along those lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 Truth >Some writers participate more then an hour appointment, OR they are never rushed out the door when the timer goes off after an hour. Factor >I guess it is your approach with a lady acting like a gent will lead to a more non-rushed pleasant time together, so you do end up having lots of time to do all what was written, but if you are a jerk you probably will be asked to leave when the 60 minutes is up if not before hand. Factor> I failed to see any humor in this post where someone decided to say HAHA. This is the typical analogy of the issue why some other's do not even post a recommendation here, if others think that there is fluff thrown around, they are saying to themselves "Why even bother" and then have if it backed up by someone. All the recs here need to be taken with a grain of salt anyways. Every encounter is subjective, every person has different tastes, and frames of reference can differ wildly depending on the writer. Sometimes they're not even close to truth because of these factors. Not to mention how much fluff gets thrown in that probably didn't happen in the first place. When you read a guy go on about making out with her for 20 mins, then going down on her for a half hour, then trying desperately to last those 15 mins with that awesome BBBJ being so difficult, then missionary, doggie, reverse cowgirl, conversation, tickling, shower, etc, etc, etc. And all of this happened in one great 1 hour appointment. Do the math. Whatever. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 3, 2011 I think in some cases, guys will hold back on a rec even if they had a good time because they think other guys might not feel the same way. So if a girl is older or not a spinner or whatever, they'll believe others won't find her attractive and they won't share their experience. Sort of like, "I don't mind that aspect about her, but all the other guys will." Maybe it might dash their credibility as a rec-giver and they're concerned it will affect their 'cred' amongst the boys...who knows? Well that may be true, I don't know. For me, if I am writing a recommendation it is because I had a good time with a lady, and I will say so. I am not worried if other guys may or may not like my taste in woman. I'm not here to impress them, or ask for their approval, I have more confidence in myself than needing other guy's (that I don't know) approval RG 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest s******ecan**** Report post Posted April 3, 2011 I think in some cases, guys will hold back on a rec even if they had a good time because they think other guys might not feel the same way. So if a girl is older or not a spinner or whatever, they'll believe others won't find her attractive and they won't share their experience. Sort of like, "I don't mind that aspect about her, but all the other guys will." Maybe it might dash their credibility as a rec-giver and they're concerned it will affect their 'cred' amongst the boys...who knows? All the recs here need to be taken with a grain of salt anyways. Every encounter is subjective, every person has different tastes, and frames of reference can differ wildly depending on the writer. Sometimes they're not even close to truth because of these factors. Not to mention how much fluff gets thrown in that probably didn't happen in the first place. When you read a guy go on about making out with her for 20 mins, then going down on her for a half hour, then trying desperately to last those 15 mins with that awesome BBBJ being so difficult, then missionary, doggie, reverse cowgirl, conversation, tickling, shower, etc, etc, etc. And all of this happened in one great 1 hour appointment. Do the math. Whatever. I think this is very cynical. I suppose some guys might fall prey to this but to say "all the recs here need to be taken with a grain of salt" is over the top. Many of the members here who write Rec's consistently have well established reputations and can be relied on. We need more Rec's not less, there is already enough barriers to writing them without adding "don't bother because I won't believe you really had that much fun" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandimoon 72517 Report post Posted April 3, 2011 If you solicit the review it means nothing. Too bad because now that is your lasting memory of what seemed otherwise a nice time. The best way to compliment a lady is quite simple. See her again. I can see why you are a tad miffed. To ask? Tres gauche. :redface: "Hey" I say, while looking up at you, "I gave you a pretty damn good blowjob. I think you should leave me a little something extra in the envelope." Nudge, nudge wink wink.... When I read this I had a mental image flash through my warped brain & almost swallowed my Crest Strip lmao!! Sandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 3, 2011 Some more thoughts popping in my head as I continue reading this thread First, on a personal level, to show appreciation to the lady, I like to give a gift and tip. It is, for me, my way to show that this is more than a simple business transaction. It is a encounter where for a few hours, the lady made me feel special, and I am showing my appreciation. After the encounter, sometimes I'm beaten to this by the lady btw, a nice little thank you email is sent, again, this is personal between the lady and myself. But I also like to write a recommendation (if ok with the lady, one great lady I've seen doesn't want recommendations/reviews), saying that I had a great time with the lady. Personally I don't like writing a play by play review of the encounter, details of time together should imho be private. But saying you met a great lady, had a good time etc etc, I'm comfortable doing that. What also comes clear from this thread, is that the ladies like to read that time spent with them was good. And I think it's not all about the recommendations building their business. It is a personal thing. Ladies like to read that a man liked spending time with her. And that she is attractive and desirable. This thread has shown that as much as seeing escorts is a business, it is an intimate interpersonal business, and people's feelings, both the ladies and gentlemen's, are involved As I see it RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexandra-Sky 12606 Report post Posted April 3, 2011 If this truly is the case then it's sad as someone cannot fully express their feelings. I remember reading a thread on another board in the past where they were discussing a larger lady's review. Of course the thread quickly turned negative where someone quoted "Fat chicks are like mopeds...they're fun to ride but you wouldn't want your friends to see you on one." I hope this isn't the mentality here. Everyone has their own tastes where physical attributes are concerned. WTF?!?!?!? That's so awful! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blondie13 100 Report post Posted April 3, 2011 I would never ask anyone for a review. It's like a waiter or waitress asking for tips. Like everyone has said, what if the service was bad? Then you are giving a false review and people will think, "Oh yeah, amazing service" And be totally disappointed when it's all done. Sure the girl is getting more money in her pocket, but it won't be for long because the men will find out it isn't worth it and stop going to her. Reviews are earned and given out as deserved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleo Catra 178382 Report post Posted April 3, 2011 What also comes clear from this thread, is that the ladies like to read that time spent with them was good. And I think it's not all about the recommendations building their business. It is a personal thing. Ladies like to read that a man liked spending time with her. And that she is attractive and desirable. This thread has shown that as much as seeing escorts is a business, it is an intimate interpersonal business, and people's feelings, both the ladies and gentlemen's, are involved As I see it RG Thats exactly why I like recommendations. I don't really care what it does for my business but it's so flattering to read kind words someone wrote about me. It's a really wonderful feeling and makes me happy to be doing what I'm doing :) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pink Kitty Escorts 6195 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 One thing that I really want to clarify, I don't believe in writing recos out of guilt because the lady asked you to, and if the reco was undeserved.. Not at all... However.. In the interest in keeping a the board current as well as keeping the lady's name in demand in order to keep her business fruitful then it is really something that should be a priority. My view is this, Cerb is a great resource for clients to find what they are looking for for. And its a great place for ladies to advertize and meet clients. And it is absolutely free to use this resource for the guys. So I think it is the VERY least they can do is (if deserved of course) write a reco if they were happy. I just read a post today that bugged me about a lady we represent.. The post wrote how he "selfishly kept her to himself". How retarded is that? How many ladies could and would survive in the industry if guys didnt pay it forward and let other ppl know? Its not selfish, its extremely short sighted. This board is such a safe place for ppl to express how they feel, it is completely anonymous.. So why not? Really? The other boards tend to have a much more toxic environment, and have a much lower level of activity and participation. But with CERB this isnt the case.. Share your experiences and EVERYONE benefits! :) 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiaBella 10988 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 What also comes clear from this thread, is that the ladies like to read that time spent with them was good. And I think it's not all about the recommendations building their business. It is a personal thing. Ladies like to read that a man liked spending time with her. And that she is attractive and desirable. This thread has shown that as much as seeing escorts is a business, it is an intimate interpersonal business, and people's feelings, both the ladies and gentlemen's, are involvedAs I see it RG It's seems to be very easy to forget SP's have feelings and we are people too. If I've seen a gentleman several times, have done my usual above and beyond service to do everything I can to make our time unforgettable and our time spent together is amazing, I Hope for a review, but it's not necessary. BUT If I later see that I didn't get one, but another lady did, I wonder what it is I DID WRONG. It's Personal. Not towards the gentleman, but for myself. Sp's spend countless hours trying to imporve our abilities, and be the best we can be. Reviews give Sp's a chance to see specifics of what we did Right and how we can Improve our Buisness. That is all beneficial to clients in the future. As is finding an SP because you notice she has some nice reviews written. Reviews don't have to be long winded or revealing. But please, Don't Under Estimate the Power of a Review. If a SP is amazing and you truly care for her livelihood and well being, it's just as easy to write a quick review as it is to post on any other part of the board. Laziness should never be the case if you are an active member. As for asking for a review: if the two of you have a report, asking shouldn't be a big deal at all. Ladies should just be tactfull and aware of who they are asking. It isn't always appropriate, but it shouldn't be taboo either. Just my 2 cents. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gentleman11 10508 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 To put it succintly, the recommendations this site is intended for (as I understand it) does not provide for reviews. I like the "half full vs half empty" perspective of CERB - If you want a recommendation this is the place, I don't know where one should go for reviews. Musings from a new guy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex2006 1071 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 To put it succintly, the recommendations this site is intended for (as I understand it) does not provide for reviews. I like the "half full vs half empty" perspective of CERB - If you want a recommendation this is the place, I don't know where one should go for reviews. Musings from a new guy... We call it Left and Right here, kind of like a government! our Recommendations are Reviews! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ftn40 824 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Yes, it's six of one, half dozen of the other. Even the CERB.CA link that is placed on Web sites says, "NEWS REVIEWS COMMUNITY". The difference is that CERB reviews are always recommendations since they are never negative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Scarlett 25073 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Factor> I failed to see any humor in this post where someone decided to say HAHA. I have a right to my opinion, whether you like it or not, and calling people out in public threads is not a good thing to do. I do not appreciate this comment! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satin 1237 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I see Megan'sTouch's point though. I too would never ask for a recommendation but as someone new on here I know how much they would be appreciated. I think some new women could feel like it's an important part of establishing themselves and that they are indeed providing a great service in hopes of increased visitors. I agree with others that the unsolicited recommendation are the ones that matter. I couldn't bring myself to ask for a recommendation but I do understand what might drive others to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paradise Spa 24019 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I always encourage members who send a positive PM to take the time to post a RECO if they feel it is deserved....why because it is nice to share with others...it help the gents decide where they want to go and it helps the ladies/business build a positive reputation.....it is a win/win for all....this is a recommendation board so spread the word :) The best form of advertisement is a happy clients opinion :) All of the ladies/business are very grateful for those gents that actually take the time to post a RECO! I absolutely do not think there is anything wrong with encouraging members to post a well deserved RECO. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashley Ann 75247 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Reviews are earned and given out as deserved. While I understand we all have our own opinions....I strongly disagree with your statement, only because, I am an sp with ONE rec (been on here since November 2009)....and I do not believe its because I provide a shitty service and/or do not deserve one, because believe me...I DO!!! I truly think the reason for this is because a) the men I see do not bother with recs at all and/or b) are embarassed to post a rec which would indicate thier love for bigger ladies. I am able to back this claim up because I have quite a few friends from this site who have returned and/ or are ongoing. I realize my shape is not every one's cup of tea, so I fully admit my client base is smaller than most...BUT the clients I do see are happy, and highly doubt they are holding back on providing me with a rec because my service is whack...... I have learned to deal with this, because after all what I appreciate the most is when they return, and what I LOVE is the lovely notes they send to me privately, after it's all said and done :grin: Others have also said " if nothing is said on here about someone,it must be because there is nothing good to say' this too I feel is uncalled for, because it can give the impression that it's true, when clearly it is not. Not trying to be a Negative Nancy, so my apologies if I come off as rude. I just wanted to indicate the other side to why some ladies may not have any recs. Vanessa 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliasUndies 7288 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I have recently seen a lady for a service, and after the service she had asked me to post a review here for her. It is not the first time. It shows poor class and puts me in an uncomfortable position. Although the service was fantastic, I will not give this person a review now. I will never try to negotiate your rates, so please don't ask me to post a review. I will never see that person again! It's really too bad that you will never see her again considering the excellent service you received. It's too bad because if she gave you such fantastic service, this is the place to share that with.. Sharing is caring! For Paradise Spa and Tanning for instance, "win win" Winning! Winning for clients to know la creme de la creme, winning for Spas like Paradise to know who to hire and winning for girls to know who they work with. I have to say, there are two sides to this.. There are times when the clients tells you "This is the best massage I have ever had, I can't thank you enough" Some go on about the fantastic service, how great I am ect.. some mention CERB, like the place we met ON A REVIEW BOARD!!! Sooo Apex, what I'm trying to say is, if this is what happened, before she asked you for the review.. Well, then that should have been expected. I think in that case, the case when a client tells me I am his new favorite, best hands ever.. ect.. I may say something along the lines of "spread the word", No, I haven't.. but I can see this. Try not to be to harsh, she sounds like she did a great job and is worth repeating..and even though you have held back her name, you have indeed given her a review, knowing it or not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest f***2f*** Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I agree with Julia. If the service is good share the experience with others. When I find a good restaurant...i tell my friends about it. Why wouldn't I share with my friends her at CERB when I have a good experience with an SP?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paradise Spa 24019 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Exactly we are a community here :) Whenever we experience good things in our lives we automatically want to share with our friends :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites