jughead 45 Report post Posted April 3, 2011 Ladies, If one of us guys were to call you and ask you out on a real date outside of the hobby type date, what would you do? I know there is a thread about falling for a SP. I know there is a thread about seeing a married or commit SP. What about this side of things? The human factor. This topic just popped into my mind so I figured that I would bring it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted April 3, 2011 I would decline. If I'm interested in seeing as client as a date/friend, I prefer to do the asking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest **cely***r***ne Report post Posted April 3, 2011 Good question! Personally I will not mesh my private life with work, I think it would be too hard for me on many different levels. However, if I was to give advise to a friend on this topic... I would say to them... make sure your able to deal with how you met primarily, and I would also say go for it! If the heart is in it, and it feels good.... do it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ottanon 2930 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 I think you will find that for most SP's its business. Even though they are friendly and may genuinely like you, they are not looking for relationships with their clients. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleo Catra 178382 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 I'm sure most of the ladies on here have been asked on a date by a client. To be completely truthful, I hate when this happens. It puts me in a very awkward position where I say 'sure I can join you for dinner sometime, my social rate is...'. Never fun. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 Despite the intimacy involved, at the end of the day, this is a business. It is not good business to date your clients as it amounts to a loss of income. It is incredibly awkward to have to explain this--so guys, if you have fallen for an SP, it is probably best to keep it to yourself. If she is interested in seeing you personally, she will ask you herself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomer 33202 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 I think you're barking up the wrong tree. The relationship you think has developed is based on a lot of fantasy. The SP has always tried to please because that's her job, what you've been paying for. You may not have all the facts, and if you're a very good customer she maybe acquiesce just to retain your business. Don't put the lady in that position. Even if she were to ask be careful, there are a lot of pitfalls, least of which she may have to reveal her true identity and all that it involves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 I'm sure most of the ladies on here have been asked on a date by a client. To be completely truthful, I hate when this happens. It puts me in a very awkward position where I say 'sure I can join you for dinner sometime, my social rate is...'. Never fun. I agree. To the OP, I would say to all clients, if or when the idea ever crosses your mind, nip it in the bud and keep your mouth shut. The ones who ask make all kinds of assumptions about sps, including that she is single, that she is lonely, that she is doing this biz because she is looking for a new BF, that she is a nymphomaniac, etc etc. Puts her in an awkward spot of trying to diplomatically turn the guy down without offending or hurting his feelings, and in a way to keep him as a client. I think this is the worst possible way to try to meet women to date, fwiw lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jughead 45 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 (edited) So far the comments are pertty much as expected. Just to claify I am not here, I am not hobbying with the intention of looking for a SO, GF, Wife or how ever you want to state it. There is no one here that I am even thinking of asking out on a real date (no offence meant). This was just a topic for conversation is all, In this community I am sure that it happens all to frequently and just wonder about it is all. When men and women deal with each other in such an intimate way I am sure that it happens all to frequently. I know I have made this mistake with a friends sister, she gave me the direct impresion that she was interested. She was living with her current husband and just playing, this is something that she has done to men since she was a teenager and continues to do. Keep posting though the comments are interesting Edited April 4, 2011 by jughead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kubrickfan 12836 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 So far the comments are pertty much as expected. Just to claify I am not here, I am not hobbying with the intention of looking for a SO, GF, Wife or how ever you want to state it. There is no one here that I am even thinking of asking out on a real date (no offence meant). This was just a topic for conversation is all, In this community I am sure that it happens all to frequently and just wonder about it is all. When men and women deal with each other in such an intimate way I am sure that it happens all to frequently. I know I have made this mistake with a friends sister, she gave me the direct impresion that she was interested. She was living with her current husband and just playing, this is something that she has done to men since she was a teenager and continues to do. Keep posting though the comments are interesting Not every one shares the same "paradigms" as to what constitutes normal behavior between the sexes. This can also get completedly out of whack in the context of a visit from and SP or a visit to a strip club. Suddently, the roles seem to be reversed ... is this lady really interested in me as she seems to be? The answer is, unfortunately no (smile), or not at least in the same way she is in a traditional relationship. That isn't intended as a knock on anyone, its just the way it is. Let me put it this way: if you have seen a lady numerous times, and if you are genuinely interested in her for the right reasons (not just sex), and if you are willing to accept rejection and still maintain a client/SP relationship, AND (most important) if you think she shares those feelings, go ahead and ask in the most deferential and pleasant way possible. I agree it would be better for the lady to ask you, but that may never happen. And I would put your odds, overall, at 5-10% or less. Also, ever if she says yes, listen carefully, as it might not be the "yes" you are looking for. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest s******ecan**** Report post Posted April 4, 2011 I can see why this is awkward for the ladies. Most SP's dedicate themselves to ensuring we have a good time and enjoy ourselves. Doling out rejection runs counter to that. Yet I have to believe that the overwhelming response to an advance like this would be "no". In addition to being put in the position of doing something that the lady doesen't want to; namely potentially hurting your feelings, she also has to fear losing you as a client or having the future sp/client relationship forever muddied. I think Berlin said it best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrrnice2 157005 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 What a fascinating discussion. I really wish to respond on a number of levels, and I hope that it is not too disjointed when I am finished. First and foremost for me is that I really DO like to or maybe need to see the little reminders here and on various threads, that this IS a business enterprise. I had no idea at all initially just what GFE meant, and perhaps to different people it still has different meanings or connotations. For me it has meant meeting not only with beautiful women, but with women with beautiful minds, thoughts, ideas, goals and attitudes. The meetings have all been incredible and I still have to ask myself the question of did they really enjoy my company as much as they seemed to, or were they merely doing their job? One hopes for one answer, but maybe I don't want to ask the question, because as a lawyer friend told me once, "Never ask a question in court that you don't already know the answer to." I am on CERB because I am looking for these sorts of things but without wanting to have any sort of permanent or semi-permanent relationship. The women have been so successful with what they do, that it would be very easy for me to wonder about asking them out, and THAT is even with me NOT wanting a relationship. Ladies, you are very good at what you do. So for me, and maybe there are more like me, those little business reminders are important. What a balancing act you do. I hope that this ties into the existing thread. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angeltbay 612 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 Well, personally, I've done it! Now, my question for you is would you be asking a lady on a date, as a client? Or just because you want to date her, I've done both The "just as a client" aspect is great, you get out of the normal "just in the bedroom" thing, and have some fun, go for drinks, go out to dinner etc, and then go back to the room, to end the evening extra special Now, I have also gone on an actual date(s)...And it was a one-time only mistake. I even moved to toronto with this one and only stayed 2 weeks, before his real colors came out. I would never do it again. I also agree with the loss of income statement on here, that's true but, you win some you lose some, u can't really control everything that happens in this business. And one more thing, if you really have a connection with someone, (doesn't matter what business they are in) why wouldn't u go for it? SP's are people too, just the same as anyone else. Some of them are actually interested in that "pretty woman" fantasy. Lol Everyone faces rejection, weather its in the bar, or grocery store. And as for that "awkwardness" afterwards (if there is any) you just got to learn to laugh it off, no harm done. Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrgreen760 37785 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 My SO won't let me date so it's a none issue for me :) Peace MG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyRushton 253372 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 If I am asked I would politely decline the date, if I was interested I would do the asking out. It is difficult to mix business with pleasure, but the possibility could be made to work in the right circumstances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 First, in general, never say never....................... but I myself have given up the dating game, and found seeing escorts much more enjoyable Why ruin it, for both the ladies and myself by complicating it with a relationship...this isn't eHarmony or LavaLife, nor would I try to turn it into a dating service for me And I realize it is at the end of the day, a business But, especially for the great and good ladies I have met, I have the memory of the time spent with them (and the memory is MUCH MUCH more than the sexual aspect) But the money, no memories to that...it doesn't last forever. I would say, within the confines of the escort/client relationship, I've made some great friends, and they are ladies I will want to see again And if they move on to something else in their life, while I'll miss seeing them, I'll be happy for them too Don't know if that makes sense RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleo Catra 178382 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 If I am asked I would politely decline the date, if I was interested I would do the asking out. It is difficult to mix business with pleasure, but the possibility could be made to work in the right circumstances. Agreed! If there really was something there, gents, she'll ask you! I'm sure it could work, I know of a few SPs who have dated clients and had fun. But it has to come about on her terms, let her do the asking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The General 11309 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 (edited) I starting thinking that this was an easy question, the answer being 'NO'. We need to not cross business with pleasure, it never ends well. But based on some of the comments from the ladies, they are people too, with feelings and looking for that someone to connect with. For me personally, I really like it to be a fantasy experience with the lady, no illusions of anything more. I think that is mostly why I tend to only see the same lady a couple of times, ensuring that the situation remains as a fantasy and not of anything more. But now, I am thinking that I should wait from that special lady to ask me out. I am thinking that I am going to be waiting for a long time, but like what "Jim Carrey" said on Dumb and Dumber, "so you think my chances are one in a million, wow, so, you are telling me there is a chance". Edited April 4, 2011 by The General editorial clean-up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleo Catra 178382 Report post Posted April 4, 2011 But now, I am thinking that I should wait from that special lady to ask me out. I am thinking that I am going to be waiting for a long time, but like that "Jim Carrey" said on Dumb and Dumber, so you think my chances are one in a million, wow, so, you are telling me there is a chance. Hahaha! Sorry I'm laughing at the Dumb and Dumber images now running through my head. But NO I don't think any of us have said this. However, in many thread over the months I've been on this board, I've seen many SPs and hobbyiests state that they have dated a hobbyiest or an SP. And because of that, it's impossible to say that an SP would never date a hobbyiest. But your original thought to this issue, being NO, is, I believe, the correct one. Gentlemen, if you're looking to date, go to a dating site. Ladies too. That's not why any of us should be here. Being here HAS led to other things for some people. Good for them. But do not expect that to happen to you, if you're seeing a lady in hopes that 'one day' she'll only want you - you're wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Never dated, if I really wanted to, I would spend a night with her a pay the appropriate rates, you know... like the sleep-over rates....we can both wear the flannel pj's and fussy slippers :) and have real nice date, staying in for the night, watch old movies and eat popcorn, fart, and have some sex too ;) Now thats a real date:) LOL..J/K about the farting..lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paradise Spa 24019 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Never dated, if I really wanted to, I would spend a night with her a pay the appropriate rates, you know... like the sleep-over rates....we can both wear the flannel pj's and fussy slippers :) and have real nice date, staying in for the night, watch old movies and eat popcorn, fart, and have some sex too ;) Now thats a real date:) LOL..J/K about the farting..lol HA HA Pete and it is even cheaper than being in a committed relationship Okay back to the thread...If the SP is interested in you she will let you know :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Playinginottawa 165 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 One of my favorite guilty pleasures put it best I think when this topic was raised across a pillow. "love me all you want, just don't fall in love with me" Words worth considering when this thought crosses your minds. (either the higher or lower mind ) Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surf_Nazis_Must_Die 8958 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 LOL..J/K about the farting..lol Or are you?... ;) J.K as well! Way I see it, there's a reason its referred to as the Girlfriend EXPERIENCE. As in you're not meeting your girlfriend/wife for some great companionship a few hours at a time, you're meeting with an awesome lady who is offering a similar but different experience with no expectations or strings attached. I figured it was all pretty much explained right in the name of the service ;) Additional Comments: Samantha: That's a very clear, concise way of explaining it! And probably a much needed cold bucket of water in a few faces, lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamanthaEvans 166766 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Samantha: That's a very clear, concise way of explaining it! And probably a much needed cold bucket of water in a few faces, lol Thanks, SNMD! :icon_smile: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surf_Nazis_Must_Die 8958 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Not a problem Samantha! I believe in giving kudos where kudos is due, whether it's for a well worded post or an especially nice looking dish made by a new guy at work! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites