Sugar Daddy Sites

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52 minutes ago, good-date said:

Lack of alternatives?

There is a massive amount of competition in this space. A quick google search of “list of sugar daddy sites” pulled up dozens of these sites (see below).

     I can guarantee you that most of these websites belong to the same corporation and uses the exact same database. And don't tell me it's not true when the business model has been used by the online dating websites for over a decade. If you don't believe me, just ask any lady on any dating or arrangement website on what website they registered on. Very often she'll reply a different website you're on.

   Quite funny when some register to different websites hoping to find different ladies but end up paying multiple times for access to the same pool of members.

   For now, the alternatives are just a nice illusion.

   I learned from my mistakes. When you'll get burned enough on your side, maybe you'll start thinking differently.

   Have a nice day.

[good-date 1711]

22 hours ago, Greenteal said:

     I can guarantee you that most of these websites belong to the same corporation and uses the exact same database. And don't tell me it's not true when the business model has been used by the online dating websites for over a decade. If you don't believe me, just ask any lady on any dating or arrangement website on what website they registered on. Very often she'll reply a different website you're on.

   Quite funny when some register to different websites hoping to find different ladies but end up paying multiple times for access to the same pool of members.

   For now, the alternatives are just a nice illusion.

   I learned from my mistakes. When you'll get burned enough on your side, maybe you'll start thinking differently.

   Have a nice day.

Ahhh, and there goes the other shoe!  So what I'm getting is YOU paid multiple times for the same pool of members and YOU got burned!  I feel for ya man, I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but I think some of your perspectives are emotionally based.  I'd be pissed off too, but at some point you really got to own it and see it as a learning experience.  I'd have to think that after a month or 2, if the site wasn't what you'd hoped then you'd just cut your losses and leave.  And as there are a fair number of people who claim to have had success, I really have to believe that each persons experience is their own rather than...This is how it is because I experienced this!  The only reason I haven't tried it is because I'm too paranoid to give my credit card info after what happened with Ashley Madison and I don't know how to acquire or use bit coins and I don't know if I want to!

You are correct in saying that a number of these sites are posing as alternatives but really are under the same corporation!  I never doubted that. That's a means of crowding the market with friendly competition to make in more difficult for true competitors to enter the market.  But I'd have to think there is more than one umbrella corp in this market that makes for true competition.

 

Anyway, Greenteal...no hard feelings!  🙂

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, good-date said:

You are correct in saying that a number of these sites are posing as alternatives but really are under the same corporation!  I never doubted that. That's a means of crowding the market with friendly competition to make in more difficult for true competitors to enter the market.  But I'd have to think there is more than one umbrella corp in this market that makes for true competition.

 

Anyway, Greenteal...no hard feelings!  🙂

       On top of posing for alternatives they give an inaccurate women to men ratio. A website can by itself have 5 times more women than men, but doesn't take in consideration the fact that five to ten other websites are fishing in the same pool of SB's. Meaning the highly favorable ratio may not only be less but could be quite possibly be the opposite. 

       I got no doubt successful arrangements were found on those websites as I found some in places that were less than favorable. But like you said , there plenty of reasons to think twice before using those services.

       Same here and have a nice day.😉

[WealthyCowboy 5281]

Hey everyone,

I haven't posted in a long while but thought I'd share my experiences about sugar-dating as I have used the SA site for several years with great success. I have enjoyed about 30-40 incredible sugar baby relationships and the women were (for the most part) amazing, sweet, classy and some were ridiculously good looking. 80% of the time it was a hot fling that lasted 2-3 months and we end it on friendly terms. I never get upset or give someone a hard time. 20% of the time, we became long-term frisky friends, and more importantly, friends. Some of these ladies still keep in touch with me even though we are no longer intimate/moved away and just want to catch up. No money or gifts involved. Others will contact me from time to time looking to hook up and need a bit of help with expenses. I also have 3 occasional frisky friend relationships that have been ongoing for 2-3 years. The fun thing is that over time you can develop a black book of ladies that come back to you. You get to know the ladies well.

Yes, there a flakes and fakes on the SA site and you have to weed them out. Many of your messages go without a response. What I have seen is that 10-20% of young women in my City become members at one point or another in their 18-27 stage. So many come and go. Most of them go on there for a week, see guys are idiots and move on. I suspect that many men don't know how to talk to women and just try to "buy" them (like property) and send them inappropriate vulgar messages offering sex for money. DON'T DO THAT!!  I suspect these are the same fools that get blocked by MA/SP. Many of these ladies on SA are not MA, SP or seeking multiple partners. These are often students or ladies with full-time office or government jobs. Most of them close their SA accounts after we start an arrangement. I've had hundreds of them tell me they are just tired of young broke guys that are rude and cheat on them so they give up on traditional dating. If you can catch them in their first week online and show them you have class and will treat them well they often will accept to meet you for a drink. After that, it's about your skills, appearance and ability to connect. Also, this site works best for those aged 35-50 (unless you are older but have a youthful appearance and style). It's the honest truth. Many ladies have an age cutoff and you have competition. If a younger, more attractive, more generous guy comes along, you may lose out sometimes. I did my homework and operated a free female account on SA for a week before joining just to size-up my competition

Usually, I buy a 3 month SA membership. I ask for a number & pics from all the ladies I am interested in and start texting within 48 hours or dump them as flakes. I get 20+ phone numbers and start to narrow down. I would end up meeting 8-10 ladies and choose 5, keeping a constant rotation. When I dropped to 2-3 women, I would open a new SA membership with different username and pics (**because some sugar babies get jealous and monitor your old account to see if you're active) and start the process again. If you are meeting a lot of ladies and not closing I think it's on you. I have a 50% success rate, which suits me fine.

This site is worth it if you have time to engage women and can spare $2,000-$3,000+ a month. It is not like MA or SP where you just go for an hour. Most of the ladies would meet up for 2-6 hours and want both social (dates) and intimacy. Sometimes it can be a weekend away or even a week vacation together. Many ladies are willing to be your girlfriend for a week if you pay their way to a nice vacation in the sun or to Europe. Costs you $1000-$2,500 for a week of their time.

Considering gifts and financial support, I operated in the average range of $200-$400 per meet. I don't pay or go for platonic; I have lots of friends. Usually, it takes 2-3 dates before we become frisky friends. It's a different approach though. It's not like giving cash in an envelope. Sometimes, it's cash. Sometimes, you hook up without any donations. Sometimes, it's overnight. Sometimes you make their car payment, you buy them gift cards, a laptop, new phone.  Sometimes, you'll give them a ride or send them an Uber. These ladies often tell me they don't want to feel like an escort. Personally, I think it's BS because I like the MA/SP ladies too and I don't judge. But many of these SA girls are from different backgrounds and see it that way. I dated 2 ladies who were from wealthy families and their real-life daddies were lawyer/doctor/executive types. They were used to their dads giving them cash allowances and gift cards. Lol. 

If anyone here has had some luck on the SA site, PM me and perhaps we can bounce off some ideas.

**P.S.  These are simply my observations and experiences. Please... no haters or thread hijackers.

The Wealthy Cowboy

 

[hornypt 1209]

You are bang on. I have had success on the site. Tons of very intelligent women who are looking for established men to date

[rhubarb16 101]

Does anyone have any experience as SD or SB on Secret Benefits? I signed up as basic and search local SBs but wonder if it is any different from Leolist in the number of real versus fake profiles? Thanks for your feedback, which would help me decide whether to pay for premium access. 

[Ice4fun 78407]

I have used a few of the sites and had some success meeting people for longer arrangement on SA. I had an arrangement with a wonderful lady in Halifax that I chatted with a lot and visited her when I was in NS... it worked very well.

I also had an ongoing thing with a lady from SA here in St. John's ... she was in University and needed extra cash so it worked well for both of us. 

In both cases the ladies had their own places so it was very easy to meet and keep it confidential.

Unfortunately my St John's friend graduated and moved away... 

Just my opinion

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11 minutes ago, Ice4fun said:

 I had an arrangement with a wonderful lady in Halifax that I chatted with a lot and fisted her when I was in NS... it worked very well.

 

[Ice4fun 78407]

5 minutes ago, Greenteal said:

 

Thanks for picking up the typo

[Guest]

Just now, Ice4fun said:

Thanks for picking up the typo

Best typo ever.

    Thanks for the laugh. 🤣

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Lookingfor said:

let it go it is getting old.

You rehashed a 3 week old quote to say that???

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Lookingfor said:

yes to stop you complaining

You're reopening a 3 week old can of worm to tell me to "let it go"??????

Thanks for the laugh. You're awesome.

 

[harboursmoke 3087]

Will these sites take prepaid CCs ? 

[Ice4fun 78407]

7 minutes ago, harboursmoke said:

Will these sites take prepaid CCs ? 

Yes they will in most cases was long as you register the card for online usage

[marchtame 106]

Thank you Wealthy Cowboy for some great info!  I am stepping into SA and will benefit from your comments.  I may not be able to keep as many women interested as you but I'd be happy with 1 or 2 solid relationships!  Has anyone had a positive experiences  with Whatsyourprice.com  or am I just wasting time & money there?

[harboursmoke 3087]

So I have now been a paid member of SA for about a month now.  

To be honest I am not sure what to make of it.  I haven't had any luck yet.  Lots of conversation and offers for online stuff, but no luck for in person yet.  

I think I will let my 3 month sub run out and move on... 

[Guest]

I honestly hate sugar dating now. I had two good experiences in the west coast but have yet to find anything worth it. I would much rather have a gentlemen who already see’s me regularly to propose an arrangement versus spending my time dealing with absolute BS on SA. I’ve been on WYP SA Established Men Sugar Daddy Meet and many others and honestly it’s been nothing but a waste of time for me. Although I did find one good one in the Atlantic who helped me with Christmas shopping last year ( bless his soul) but got cold feet about meetings😊😊 I agree there’s many types of arrangements. But a lot of the time “sugar daddy’s” these days don’t respect boundaries and aren’t offering as much “sugar” as they should. Im totally for just doing FSSW or a money domination fetish. 

[Guest]

33 minutes ago, harboursmoke said:

So I have now been a paid member of SA for about a month now.  

To be honest I am not sure what to make of it.  I haven't had any luck yet.  Lots of conversation and offers for online stuff, but no luck for in person yet.  

I think I will let my 3 month sub run out and move on... 

   Those websites are very scummy. They promise a generous amount of ladies, but hide the fact the same database is used by a dozen similar websites under the same ownership. And they charge an insane rate for a watered-down service.

   I had better luck finding on POF and other more reasonable priced dating websites.

[harboursmoke 3087]

1 hour ago, Greenteal said:

   Those websites are very scummy. They promise a generous amount of ladies, but hide the fact the same database is used by a dozen similar websites under the same ownership. And they charge an insane rate for a watered-down service.

   I had better luck finding on POF and other more reasonable priced dating websites.

There are a ton of ladies.  I find allot of them though have are naivete about their expectations with what the site is supposed to facilitate by way of arrangement. 

But in general people a nice and approachable.  I just have yet to set up a date that doesn't stand me up lol 

I would imagine a dating site like POF would be difficult to find what we search for no ?

 

[StephanieMystique 1892]

2 hours ago, harboursmoke said:

So I have now been a paid member of SA for about a month now.  

To be honest I am not sure what to make of it.  I haven't had any luck yet.  Lots of conversation and offers for online stuff, but no luck for in person yet.  

I think I will let my 3 month sub run out and move on... 

 

Both Daysha and Greenteal are right. 

It's not worth either parties time. It's more headaches than it's worth and it's filled with spam. I got kicked off last year and haven't bothered going back on. 

 

I'd rather find a connection through fs sw and come to terms of an arrangement from that. That way we both know what is happening and boundaries can be very clearly made. 

 

[harboursmoke 3087]

1 minute ago, StephanieMystique said:

 

Both Daysha and Greenteal are right. 

It's not worth either parties time. It's more headaches than it's worth and it's filled with spam. I got kicked off last year and haven't bothered going back on. 

 

I'd rather find a connection through fs sw and come to terms of an arrangement from that. That way we both know what is happening and boundaries can be very clearly made. 

 

 Very articulate and solid point! 

[Stephenber 46]

You never know what you will read or learn on this website forum. There's a lot of information in this post. Things I never knew about. It is somehow related to thoughts I've thought about recently which is coming to an agreement with an SP that I enjoy being with, but then I think I enjoy variety. So i am confused on which i like better.  i am new to this type of dating and so i have alot to learn first. I do know a connection with an SP is important to me and up til now I have seen alot of different ways SPs relate, they run their business how they feel is best and I like to enjoy my dates the way i like to enjoy them. There are so mant factors for me to experience before i consider either agreement or variety. From this post i have learned alot and I dont think these sugardaddy sites are for me. 

[Stephenber 46]

Well I posted the above post. When i relax i think(maybe think to much lol)and i try to think of happy thoughts, i am too old for stress. So my previous post got me thinking and I am intrigued about a few things and i figure if the topic is discussed here then this is probably a great place to ask questions and get advice. After i posted earlier i got to thinking about each idea i had, so i was wondering if a person had an agreement  with an SP, does anyone know what it might possibly cost for a biweekly in the afternoon date and some relax time with each other? Or would the SP want a weekly agreement? Or would they want 100% of my dating time? Any thoughts and opinions would be appreciated, if i am thinking too much and it don't make sense then please let me know. Thank you in advance

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Stephenber said:

After i posted earlier i got to thinking about each idea i had, so i was wondering if a person had an agreement  with an SP, does anyone know what it might possibly cost for a biweekly in the afternoon date and some relax time with each other? Or would the SP want a weekly agreement? Or would they want 100% of my dating time? Any thoughts and opinions would be appreciated, if i am thinking too much and it don't make sense then please let me know. Thank you in advance

    Everything is possible. Just a question of discussing with a lady to see if timings, conditions and agreement terms work for both.

[Stephenber 46]

Well here's more questions, do I just talk to one, what if there is 2 or 3 that I might want to consider, should I see what each of their offer is or is that proper and ethical or not. Really appreciate your opinions.