A Companion's Age And Photos

[roamingguy 300292]

A Twitter thread (if that's the right term) today got me to thinking of posting this.  Recently I was thinking of booking (once the thing affecting my hiatus from this lifestyle ends) dates with a couple ladies I had considered seeing back in 2010-2011 and one I in fact did see in 2010. I first didn't even know if they were still in this lifestyle or retired but that was easy to find out.

In all three cases they still had the same (emphasis same) website up.  On who was 25 years old in 2010 is still today 25 years old, and her photos the same as used back in 2010.

The second companion has adjusted her age but her pictures are from 2010-2011, nothing more recent

The third lady, one I did have a date (a good date BTW) with back in 2010 has adjusted her age appropriately.  But her photos are the same ones she used in 2010 (and which caught my eye back then as I recall fondly)

I get and understand that a companion's age may (or may not) be the same as her real civilian age, and have no real issue with that. But should a companion at least adjust her age yearly.  It's hard to believe someone is 25 years old in 2010 and we're almost to 2019 and she's still 25.  She should have adjusted her age to 34ish shouldn't she.  And not changing your age every year does get noticed by some

As for photos, how current should they be?  Should photos that were used in 2010 still be in use now on their website/ads as their photos.  BTW it wasn't a case of having albums on their website that showed pics from 2010,2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 etc etc etc.  Their 2010 photos are what they use today to represent who they are now.

So questions for discussion  (not bashing anyone here or anywhere and all three ladies aren't even on Lyla).  How current should a lady's photos be that she uses in her ads/website?  And how old should a lady's age be in comparisson to her civilian age (if that's the right phrase)  Personally I think clients don't have an issue with ladies when they turn 40 and over but ladies think guys do.  But that's JMHO

Anyhow a topic for a respectful discussion 

RG

[Jasmine Rain 23126]

I don't understand the false presentation. Even if getting behind on updating the website or ads which we all do. But updating once a year should not be an issue. 

 

And with smartphones, posting updated selfies should not be difficult either. 

 

I'm straight up. I post when my photos are taken and I think at the moment I have 4-5 galleries from Summer 2017 and now. 

 

I'm add new photos for Christmas of the next 12 days. So updating is something I do often. 

[Guest]

      Profile information should be updated every two to three years(five max). More than that and you're pretty much begging for rejection. I seen similar problems on dating websites. The age normally update itself, but the pictures and description don't.

      Often I hear the lame excuse: "Many tell me I don't look my age". Politeness(or sarcasm) doesn't replace reality.

      Being honest with ourselves and others always pay in the long run.

[Katherine of Halifax 113932]

@roamingguy  of course as you say age is adjusted to the like of a lady . This should if it’s been done at least done appropriately . As for pictures I try to have a new set every year. 

Im remiss and it’s been almost 2 years . However I have had a shoot and will release new ones in January. 

 I find it quite interesting your are surprised at old pictures. Without mentioning any names an old favourite of yours is still boldly posting photos from  2010 to 2012 . They are not even close to accurate or true. In fact they were most misleading then and other boards were all over it .  I also find it suprising. that no one has mentioned this. 

 

[Ice4fun 78407]

One of the things I always thought but was clearly shown to be true through my involvement in this industry is that Age is just a number. I have met ladies on here who are in their 50's and who have bodies and stamina of people 30 younger and life experience that significantly adds to the time I have spent with them.  If you don't believe me meet with Bianca Jaguar 

 

So when it comes to pictures and ages on websites I of course think they should be kept up to date but frankly if a lady fibs about her age I won't care as long as the age she suggests is realistic for her.  I love when a lady has lots of pictures and it is great if they are new but as long as they fairly represent what she looks like I am OK if they're older.  Let's face it getting professional pictures done is expensive so I understand using them but selfies are great too.  My Recommendation to ladies is to use the pictures that best represent them and if they are older just say that on the site.

To be honest with you I am just really glad that's clients don't have to submit photos to be judged before a booking is confirmed.  I have a feeling I would have to use really old pictures.

Just my Opinion

[Guest]

    This is not about age, but more about honesty. It can only be a number but lobbyists have the right to know and form their own opinions on the subject. A description based on feelings is never an honest one. As for pictures, those will present what the person want to show. If you tell a professional photographer you want to look 10 to 20 years younger and 50lbs lighter, they'll use lights, shadows, angles and a bit of editing to create the image the customer want. And even without digital editing and filters, there many ways to create a deceptive look. I often take pictures of myself and by simply sucking in my gut and using shadows at my advantage I can shave a few years off. But it rarely pays off.

    People who look younger should appreciate this gift without abusing it. Nature can sometimes be a bit slower, but when it decides to catchup it can do it brutally fast. Better enjoy being told you look younger, than the brutal reality of learning the opposite.

[Guest]

12 hours ago, Katherine said:

   I find it quite interesting your are surprised at old pictures. Without mentioning any names an old favourite of yours is still boldly posting photos from  2010 to 2012 . They are not even close to accurate or true. In fact they were most misleading then and other boards were all over it .  I also find it suprising. that no one has mentioned this. 

   Unlike some other boards, Lyla doesn't allow negative comments and reviews about providers. The "Bait and switch" forum can be used, but better kept for more severe abuse. Sometimes the best way to express dissatisfaction is by not enabling those persons. Once they'll run out of regulars, they'll need to embrace reality or rethink their future.

[Katherine of Halifax 113932]

@ Greenteal. 😊 Who May this friend be that is posting ancient pics.? A lot can happen in just a few years. Perhaps I will point her towards this thread !! 😊

This friend may be an old one because we don’t agree on certain buisness practices ! 

[peacectryguy 12547]

I think sometimes the age thing can be a bi-product of the clients in this biz and some of the review boards that cater to the misogynists out there. I can somewhat understand a ladies desire to maximize her clients potential. And there are a lot of guys out there who are looking for that ego boost of being with a young 20 something woman with that certain look. 

Having said that, I sometimes think an escort has to take a step back for just a minute and decide if these are really the type of clients she wants. I think embracing her age could be beneficial for her to attract clients that respect her for more than just a hot body and sexual skill.

 For some of us and I know we are likely in the minority, we embrace a woman's other attributes. Her inner confidence, honesty and down to earth qualities as well as the outer beauty. For me, at least, I enjoy the company of women of all ages, body types, race, whatever because I look deeper than just the image and age. I would never tell an escort how to run her own business model but maybe she just has to adjust that from time to time.

I don't really know anything though. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, peacectryguy said:

  For some of us and I know we are likely in the minority, we embrace a woman's other attributes. Her inner confidence, honesty and down to earth qualities as well as the outer beauty. For me, at least, I enjoy the company of women of all ages, body types, race, whatever because I look deeper than just the image and age. I would never tell an escort how to run her own business model but maybe she just has to adjust that from time to time.

I don't really know anything though. 

    I completely agree. From what I seen, there's demand for women of all ages and body types. And by trying to cater to the wrong clientele, they end up alienating those who would normally be interested in them and also those who felt receipt by their outdated information. 

   About 5 years ago, I had a testy exchange with a provider pushing 40 when she was supposed to be 26. Her argument was that because she was thin and worked hard for her body, it gave her the right to say whatever age she wanted. I completely disagreed and told her if I wanted someone my age, I would have met someone else. She tried insulting me by calling my an old perv looking for teenagers. I just laughed replying we were likely less than 5 yrs apart and I didn't lived in denial. I also didn't get why I would seek a 26yo when looking for teens. LOL🤣

[roamingguy 300292]

For me at least, just going back to my civy days of dating, some women 'um how shall we say, adjusted their ages early on.  I think, and I'm no expert here, but women believe all guys want younger women.  So I assume a lady's age when first given is two or three years younger.  And I can understand from a privacy point of view a companion doesn't want her "companion age" to be the exact same as her "real age"  But a companion 25 years old in 2010 should have adjusted her website to show she is 32 years old now (my math is right here isn't it? LOL) even if her companion age was a year or two younger than her real age.  And potential clients may just remember (I did) her posted age.  

And just my opinion but I do believe age is more an issue for ladies.  Clients, well most clients would be happy seeing companions in their 30s, 40s and 50s.  It's just their are some companions that believe all guys want girls in their early 20s.  At least that's just my speculation here, I may be wrong and stand to be corrected if so

As for photos, again in the three cases (and no I'm not naming names) they are using the photos they had in 2010-2011.  I'm not dumb, I saw their sites back 2010-2011 and in fact booked one of the ladies in 2010.  The fact they all were in my memory and it's 2018 and I know all about getting older, why use older pictures.  JMO but shouldn't a companion update her website photo albums?  Even if using selfies from a smartphone if she doesn't want to have a photo shoot done.

Just a continued rambling from a client who won't book those three ladies because he doesn't really have an idea now who he'd be booking

RG

[peacectryguy 12547]

5 minutes ago, Greenteal said:

    I completely agree. From what I seen, there's demand for women of all ages and body types. And by trying to cater to the wrong clientele, they end up alienating those who would normally be interested in them and also those who felt receipt by their outdated information. 

   About 5 years ago, I had a testy exchange with a provider pushing 40 when she was supposed to be 26. Her argument was that because she was thin and worked hard for her body, it gave her the right to say whatever age she wanted. I completely disagreed and told her if I wanted someone my age, I would have met someone else. She tried insulting me by calling my an old perv looking for teenagers. I just laughed replying we were likely less than 5 yrs apart and I didn't lived in denial. I also didn't get why I would seek a 26yo when looking for teens. LOL🤣

Yeah, 26 is far from a teenager and her being so defensive would always be a turn off for me. I won't ask the details of the exchange and won't make judgements either but sometimes how we handle these things says a lot too. I also think there are always ways to advertise subtly without committing to a specific age group. For example, I've seen several women who have advertised as a "young looking, mature companion". I realize that for some clients, that might be a little too obscure but at least, we might not be as surprised. 

Last year, I did have an occasion to have a date with a lady who advertised she was in her 40's. She could have easily passed for a woman in her 30's imo but during our date, she admitted to me that she was actually 52. With our conversation and chemistry, she felt that she could be honest with me without me being upset. She was right, of course and it was a fantastic encounter for both of us. Now, with someone else, that could have turned out completely different so I guess we have to take that for what it is. 

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, peacectryguy said:

 I also think there are always ways to advertise subtly without committing to a specific age group. For example, I've seen several women who have advertised as a "young looking, mature companion". I realize that for some clients, that might be a little too obscure but at least, we might not be as surprised. 

        I got nothing against older, edited or stock pictures if there's a written disclosure about the source or possible difference with reality. The same goes for age. If next to her actual age she wants to mention she looks much younger, she has to keep in mind that men who don't share her view will likely be disappointed. Better say the truth and allow us to make our own opinion.

2 minutes ago, peacectryguy said:

   Last year, I did have an occasion to have a date with a lady who advertised she was in her 40's. She could have easily passed for a woman in her 30's imo but during our date, she admitted to me that she was actually 52. With our conversation and chemistry, she felt that she could be honest with me without me being upset. She was right, of course and it was a fantastic encounter for both of us. Now, with someone else, that could have turned out completely different so I guess we have to take that for what it is. 

   I had my share of bad blind date stories and my patience gets thin when dealing with people arrogant enough to lie about obvious things. One lie is normally followed by many others and once the first impression is negative I normally don't waste my time.

[Raquel Brooks 151]

1 hour ago, peacectryguy said:

I think sometimes the age thing can be a bi-product of the clients in this biz and some of the review boards that cater to the misogynists out there. I can somewhat understand a ladies desire to maximize her clients potential. And there are a lot of guys out there who are looking for that ego boost of being with a young 20 something woman with that certain look. 

Having said that, I sometimes think an escort has to take a step back for just a minute and decide if these are really the type of clients she wants. I think embracing her age could be beneficial for her to attract clients that respect her for more than just a hot body and sexual skill.

 For some of us and I know we are likely in the minority, we embrace a woman's other attributes. Her inner confidence, honesty and down to earth qualities as well as the outer beauty. For me, at least, I enjoy the company of women of all ages, body types, race, whatever because I look deeper than just the image and age. I would never tell an escort how to run her own business model but maybe she just has to adjust that from time to time.

I don't really know anything though. 

You are not wrong!  When I first started, the owner of the agency convinced me that claiming to be younger would be good. I did that for a while but it always felt wrong somehow.  I do have the great good luck of not looking my age, but again, what a sad day to have if someone disagrees with that!  So now I am upfront and what I have found is a great clientele and no time wasters! :) I do not regret being upfront with my age and it's always an ego boost when I'm told I look younger. Win win! :) ❤️

[Phaedrus 209521]

Using very old photos and never updating your age does seem to be a short-sighted approach. I'd have thought that anyone who books based on that is likely to be somewhat surprised when the meeting happens, and even if it's not a deal-breaker at the time it probably reduces the chance of subsequent repeat visits. It also means that clients who might be looking for someone a little older will stay away. And so you end up with the wrong clients visiting just once, and the right ones never showing up at all. This doesn't strike me as a good long-term strategy.

Of course, if someone's business is mostly regulars who have been seeing her for years, the fact that she hasn't updated her age or pics probably doesn't matter in the slightest.

[Cjthomas 1561]

On 12/16/2018 at 6:11 PM, Phaedrus said:

 

Of course, if someone's business is mostly regulars who have been seeing her for years, the fact that she hasn't updated her age or pics probably doesn't matter in the slightest.

I would agree with your assumption although if the person were still advertising publicity then it could be assumed that the person was still seeking new clients. If not it still sets a bad example. Most on boards feel old pictures are a form of bait and switch. So either someone is doing that or they’re not and I can’t accept that “ just seeing regullars” as an acceptable excuse to doing so.

[roamingguy 300292]

On 12/15/2018 at 12:51 PM, Greenteal said:

    I completely agree. From what I seen, there's demand for women of all ages and body types. And by trying to cater to the wrong clientele, they end up alienating those who would normally be interested in them and also those who felt receipt by their outdated information. 

   About 5 years ago, I had a testy exchange with a provider pushing 40 when she was supposed to be 26. Her argument was that because she was thin and worked hard for her body, it gave her the right to say whatever age she wanted. I completely disagreed and told her if I wanted someone my age, I would have met someone else. She tried insulting me by calling my an old perv looking for teenagers. I just laughed replying we were likely less than 5 yrs apart and I didn't lived in denial. I also didn't get why I would seek a 26yo when looking for teens. LOL🤣

She has gall calling you an old perv looking for a teenager because you wanted to book a lady who's 26 years old...galling because one 26 years old is far from being a teenager and two she is trying to pass herself off as a 26 year old meaning she must really want to book old pervs (meaning guys looking for teenagers LOL) as clients. What does that say about her???

They say guys don't know about women.  But I think there is some truth that women, well some women don't know about men.  They think all we're focused on is age and looks.  But what's as important, at least for some of us is honesty.  Dishonesty is enough for some guys to not book a lady, and when a lady treats a client in a less than honest manner, it's enough for me at least to cease seeing her.  But I'm starting to go off on tangents her, let's get the train back on track LOL

A rambling

RG 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, roamingguy said:

She has gall calling you an old perv looking for a teenager because you wanted to book a lady who's 26 years old...galling because one 26 years old is far from being a teenager and two she is trying to pass herself off as a 26 year old meaning she must really want to book old pervs (meaning guys looking for teenagers LOL) as clients. What does that say about her???

   She obviously got pissy that I seen right through her. Her insults were nonsensical. LOL

   Would have saved her some trouble by being honest.

   

 

[cat 262460]

As someone who has an active site with older photos but seldom advertises, I simply don't see the need to put myself through the hassle of a photoshoot. I hate having my picture taken, I don't take selfies or willing have "in the moment" pictures taken. Family photos need to be planned well in advance and there will be tequila required before the sitting. Every shoot I've ever had done has made my stomach bleed and I'd rather go to the dentist for a root canal with no freezing than have a camera any where near me. I'm the same size I was 15 years ago, I've aged exceedingly well and if current pictures are that important to someone then they aren't the kind of client I want to meet. I have a blog on my site and private members area that gives massive insight into who I am, the experience I offer and what they can expect. If it's not enough to give them the feel of me, then new pictures aren't the answer. 

I get the demand for pictures but I don't agree that it's mandatory to have. It hasn't hurt my business and why invest $$$$ when it's unnecessary? When I decide to start advertising again in a big way I will suck it up, deal with the resulting ulcers, drink some tequila and pose. Right now, it's just not something I need to put myself thru.

smiles, cat

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, cat said:

   I get the demand for pictures but I don't agree that it's mandatory to have. It hasn't hurt my business and why invest $$$$ when it's unnecessary? When I decide to start advertising again in a big way I will suck it up, deal with the resulting ulcers, drink some tequila and pose. Right now, it's just not something I need to put myself thru.

smiles, cat

    I don't think anyone is pressuring you on the subject. An honest description is far better than any outdated pictures.

 If you get ulcers from photoshoots, nobody's forcing you. As long you provide accurate information, pictures shouldn't be necessary.

    Have a nice evening.

[roamingguy 300292]

51 minutes ago, cat said:

 

I get the demand for pictures but I don't agree that it's mandatory to have. It hasn't hurt my business and why invest $$$$ when it's unnecessary? When I decide to start advertising again in a big way I will suck it up, deal with the resulting ulcers, drink some tequila and pose. Right now, it's just not something I need to put myself thru.

smiles, cat

The issue for me isn't that all ladies have to have updated photos.  It's a case of ladies using older photos (in the three cases coming to mind going back to 2010, we're now almost to 2019) but passing them off as current photos of themselves.  That's not being honest with prospective clients.  Not to mention in the case of the one lady she was 25 in 2010 and in 2018 she's still 25???

And as for age I get a "companion's age" will be different than her "civilian age" (if that's the right way to phrase it) for privacy reasons most of all.  And my experience both in civilian dating life and this lifestyle is women (well most women) don't like men knowing their real age.  But I do believe it really is more an issue for ladies than men.  For some guys, like myself, age is more an issue of too young, not too old.  

Not providing new photos isn't a misrepresentation of yourself.  But using photos going back to 2010 and passing them off as current pics, that is a misrepresentation.  But I am not suggesting that a lady needs to keep her photos updated, just don't pass off older (and substantially older) photos as current pictures.  And no matter what age a lady uses on her website, update it annually.  Everyone has birthdays once a year, it gets noticed when a lady's age doesn't change at all.

A rambling

RG

 

[cat 262460]

14 hours ago, Greenteal said:

    I don't think anyone is pressuring you on the subject. An honest description is far better than any outdated pictures.

 If you get ulcers from photoshoots, nobody's forcing you. As long you provide accurate information, pictures shouldn't be necessary.

    Have a nice evening.

I don't feel pressured, I was simply sharing my personal experience. And having photoshoots is in fact "forced" in this industry if one wants to advertise regularly. I've never seen a provider website that didn't have photos. Even agency girls are vilified if stock photos are used. 

12 hours ago, roamingguy said:

Not providing new photos isn't a misrepresentation of yourself.  But using photos going back to 2010 and passing them off as current pics, that is a misrepresentation.  But I am not suggesting that a lady needs to keep her photos updated, just don't pass off older (and substantially older) photos as current pictures.  And no matter what age a lady uses on her website, update it annually.  Everyone has birthdays once a year, it gets noticed when a lady's age doesn't change at all.

A rambling

RG

 

Did you ask her if the photos are accurate or is it stated on her website that all the photos are current? If she has told you they are current or states they are then that is in fact misrepresentation. If she hasn't, then is it truly misrepresentation? We see it all the time online; hotel rooms that are frayed around the edges, food delivered to the table that doesn't match the IG pic, flowers delivered that don't have the same freshness. A photo is a two dimensional image of something captured in a single moment in time with the most flattering presentation possible and never an exact depiction.

As for the age, again it's in the perception.  Have you asked her how old she is and she lied to you? I can add or deduct 15 years off my age in presentation if I choose to by simply adjusting my dress and mannerisms. The only clients that really pay attention to the aging of providers are those on the boards who follow the industry closely which is a minority of the potential client base. If a provider finds it more financially feasible to post that she is 25 and has good client retention then it is in fact a smart business move. And this is a business, the bottom line dictates the decisions. The day will come when she needs to adjust after a couple of clients walk away and she will do so once it becomes necessary. 

I posted here because I have thought extensively about the issue of photos. I have a blog post explaining my position on it and the challenges it presents. I'm not trying to be argumentative, simply explaining my personal position on the subject.

smiles, cat

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, cat said:

I don't feel pressured, I was simply sharing my personal experience. And having photoshoots is in fact "forced" in this industry if one wants to work. I've never seen a provider website that didn't have photos. Even agency girls are vilified if stock photos are used. 

   Most of the best SP's I met either didn't had pictures or only used cropped or blurred pics to hide their identity. I was often deceived by professional pictures. Too often those are edited for near perfection without matching the reality. As for stock pics, those are only vilified when followed by "100% real pictures". Blurred mirror selfies remain the simplest and most honest way to display pictures. 

[katie 1337]

16 hours ago, cat said:

As someone who has an active site with older photos but seldom advertises, I simply don't see the need to put myself through the hassle of a photoshoot. I hate having my picture taken, I don't take selfies or willing have "in the moment" pictures taken. Family photos need to be planned well in advance and there will be tequila required before the sitting. Every shoot I've ever had done has made my stomach bleed and I'd rather go to the dentist for a root canal with no freezing than have a camera any where near me. I'm the same size I was 15 years ago, I've aged exceedingly well and if current pictures are that important to someone then they aren't the kind of client I want to meet. I have a blog on my site and private members area that gives massive insight into who I am, the experience I offer and what they can expect. If it's not enough to give them the feel of me, then new pictures aren't the answer. 

I get the demand for pictures but I don't agree that it's mandatory to have. It hasn't hurt my business and why invest $$$$ when it's unnecessary? When I decide to start advertising again in a big way I will suck it up, deal with the resulting ulcers, drink some tequila and pose. Right now, it's just not something I need to put myself thru.

smiles, cat

Well said. "You Go Girl" !!! ;)

[katie 1337]

Mm mm, lots on here! Everyone, is always entilled to "Their Own Opinion", of course. 

Weather its "Sp's", Young..Mid..or Older.. in "Age". 

The "Sp's", Body Type

Chemistry 

Her Breast Size

Sp's Personality.....

Her "Pictures".... Ect..... 

Truth/Lies/or Stretching the Turth...

Every Hobbyist has their own Opinions,Desires.... "Does That MakeThem,Wrong or Right"............

"Sp's",also have all the Listed Above, Similar, .... "Does that Make Them Wrong or Right"....... 

  Although, the Sp is the one, accepting the "Donation"... The "Hobbyest", giving the "Donation".... ...... "Receiving or Giving"..... ...... I must say, there might be times, that there would never be enough Donation given, to accept a certain Client. Never enough Donation to Practice Something that I Don't Like, Personalities,Chemistry,Cleanliness,Age (Yes Age-Maybe, she'll feel like she's rocking the cradle-Too close to Her Own Kids Age).Maybe, she'll feel that he's too close to her Grandfather, her Daddy... Does that make the "Sp" ... Right or Wrong or Is she a Prevert

Remember, the Road goes Both Ways.... 

Either or... sometimes the only way to find meeting them. "Don't Like, Don't Repeat"!!.... Weather your A Hobbyest or Sp...!!

   Gents, come on, weather you realize or not... Your coming close to "Naming"... That's not Very Nice or Right.  

 Anyways, does Commenting make me .. Wrong or Right... Mm mm... 

 Just Try and not get too Carried Away Here.... Ya Ya... I know, I can Ramble ... ... 

   Try To Be Nice.....;)