Guide to TOFTT

[bobbi 1388]

Hey guys, I've put together some tips and guidance to help out the "rookie guys" when dealing with pure TOFTT in regards to unproven un-established independent escorts. It's still a draft but fairly advanced. What do you think of it so far? If you have any constructive recommendations to help improve it, please let me know and I'll incorporate it :)

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit#

[Apostle79 1001]

Thanks for this. Fairly straightforward and common sense. But you know what they say, common sense ain't so common. 🙂

[Kilt Boy 29353]

You could change the title to TOFTT instead of TOFFT.

[bobbi 1388]

32 minutes ago, Kilt Boy said:

You could change the title to TOFTT instead of TOFFT.

Done. I can't believe something this basic yet important slipped by. Thanks

6 hours ago, Apostle79 said:

Thanks for this. Fairly straightforward and common sense. But you know what they say, common sense ain't so common. 🙂

So true! Thanks.

[bobbi 1388]

Since the last post, the guidance has been revised. Originally the scope of the guidance ended at when the booking was made, but due to requests and contributions from board members, the scope has grown.

Added:
- hyperlinked table of content
- "before starting the session" section
- "writing your review" section

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit#

 

Recommendations to improve the guidance are welcomed :)

[Pattywack 3]

Thanks for this. I am new to the SP thing. I booked a woman on PEI last week and gave her a deposit only to have her cancel 30 minutes before our date. Then she blocked me so I couldn’t get ahold of her. Needless to say I’m out my date and my $100. How do you know which ones to trust ?

[bobbi 1388]

4 hours ago, Pattywack said:

Thanks for this. I am new to the SP thing. I booked a woman on PEI last week and gave her a deposit only to have her cancel 30 minutes before our date. Then she blocked me so I couldn’t get ahold of her. Needless to say I’m out my date and my $100. How do you know which ones to trust ?

At the end of the guidance, you probably noticed that a section for this is being drafted. Personally I would NEVER send a deposit to ANY escorts, but many guys will send deposits to reputable established escorts. It depends on YOUR level of comfort, if you're married, what's your career position, and other factors. Keep checking the guidance for more tips.

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

The guide is well done, however I am an escort that does require deposits. So to suggest you shouldnt give a deposit to ANY escort is a bit wreakless. 

This is not only my policy but many others. I only accept 4 appts a month for my escorting service, and have no time for no shows and fake appointments. To be able to assure that the real clients who want to see me are able to ... then a deposit gets rid of the fakers. This policy is in place for clients who have never met me. Its a one time requirment. 

Just last month I had to cancel a meeting, and I sent the deposit back immediatly and it was the day before of set date. Professionalism has to occure both directions. If a client is researching his chosen date well, he should have no problem sending deposit to one who has a strong reputation. I for one would never consider ruining my 10 year rep by scamming a measly 200. Lol. 

[bobbi 1388]

1 hour ago, Studio 110 by Sophia said:

The guide is well done, however I am an escort that does require deposits. So to suggest you shouldnt give a deposit to ANY escort is a bit wreakless.

I have NOT suggested to NOT give a deposit to ANY escort. I have only stated that I personally NEVER did and NEVER will.

The Guidance will provide guidance only. Furthermore it will provide perspective from a very-diligent-low-risk-taker client (i.e. someone like me) and from a reputable established creditable escort (i.e. someone like you perhaps).

I have interacted with many reputable established creditable escorts and I fully understand and respect their point of view. I think what they are doing is good for them and their business practices. That being said, I don't align with their booking requirements so I respectfully move on to another escort. We all have our preferences and are entitled to them.

If you contact me privately, I would be glad to have you review this section of the guidance and have your feedback include in it :)

Biz

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

3 hours ago, bobbi said:

I have NOT suggested to NOT give a deposit to ANY escort. I have only stated that I personally NEVER did and NEVER will.

The Guidance will provide guidance only. Furthermore it will provide perspective from a very-diligent-low-risk-taker client (i.e. someone like me) and from a reputable established creditable escort (i.e. someone like you perhaps).

I have interacted with many reputable established creditable escorts and I fully understand and respect their point of view. I think what they are doing is good for them and their business practices. That being said, I don't align with their booking requirements so I respectfully move on to another escort. We all have our preferences and are entitled to them.

If you contact me privately, I would be glad to have you review this section of the guidance and have your feedback include in it 🙂

Biz

Yes thank you!

I was not implying your guide was not valued, no harm intended. But to discredit those who use deposits ( for obvious reasons. ) came across as if No One should because your wrote this guide. 

I will Pm soon'ish

I am just finishing up with some renovation construction ATM. And once done I can dedicate more to this conversation. 

Cheers👠

 

[pepperjack 1791]

Thanks very much, bobbi, for your work on this effort. Though I have been a hobbyist for a couple of years, yet there were still some useful tips here. And, sadly, there are always different and new twists on scamming. For the hobbyist, it is akin to being alert for new phone or internet scams. Now and then they show up in the scams thread here on  lyla, as well.

[bobbi 1388]

19 hours ago, pepperjack said:

Thanks very much, bobbi, for your work on this effort. Though I have been a hobbyist for a couple of years, yet there were still some useful tips here. And, sadly, there are always different and new twists on scamming. For the hobbyist, it is akin to being alert for new phone or internet scams. Now and then they show up in the scams thread here on  lyla, as well.

You are very welcomed 🙂

If you or anyone has any questions/suggestions, please let me know.

Biz

[bobbi 1388]

Bumping in the name of exposure.

LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...1VsOMBSk/edit#

I've also revised the "Texting made VERY simple" section to these:

Text #1: "Hello [insert escort’s name], how are you? I saw your ad and I’d be interested in seeing you. Can I have your rates, included services, restrictions, and location please?”

Text #2: I just want to confirm that you are really the woman in the pictures of your ad? Or are you posting pictures you look similar to? I ask because many escorts post pictures of other women. Btw I would understand and respect if you didn't want to put your own pictures online for privacy reasons.

Text #3: Do you have an established social media or website that you use for work?
Or do you have a link to a review of yourself on an escort review board/forum?
Or do you have a full body proof picture of yourself with your phone # on a paper like many escorts have nowadays?
Sorry to ask but I'm sure you know that most ads on leolist are dishonest, or worse.

Text #4: Would you be understanding and accommodating to send me just ONE picture showing your FULL frontal body while doing this hand gesture: [insert specific hand emoji] Please? This would provide me reassurance that you are really this amazing looking. Showing your face and nudity is up to you, but the full body and hand gesture is KEY.

Text#3 allows for the escort to tell you if she's not just a random ad on LL which could save both parties time and aggravation. Of course the guy/client should have read the ad properly and at least Google her phone number first to see if any hints are available.

[50 Shades Raven 31380]

I do ask for a small deposit from someone that I have never seen before. Some people have zero information and are unwilling to give information, my safety comes first in this. This deposit assures that you are indeed someone that WANTS to book with me.

My policy is:  if you cancel less than 12 hours before the appointed time, or are a no/show, the deposit is forfeited.  If you reschedule then the deposit is used towards another scheduled time.  If I cancel then the full deposit is completely refunded to you. I do a confirmation the day before and 2 hours before the appointed time.

As for texting:  do so in the way the sp want you to.  I ask you to introduce yourself, give your board handle, etc.  How many times do we see, "hey babe, how much for xxx?", "available?", "$", with absolutely nothing else in the text! An example of a text that WILL get answered:  "Hi Raven, this is (insert board handle here), I'm looking for an appointment of 2 hours on (insert day), do you have any availability?"  This would definitely get a response from me.  

With so many serial bookers with no intention of showing up I instilled the 'deposit policy' a long time ago.  Just imagine you going to work and not being paid just because no one decides to show up?  It's the same for us, we make the time to prepare ourselves for you and we cannot just make that time up again with someone else.  I do not see people in a 'revolving door' scenario and I'm selective on who I spend my time with. After having several tours in which were completely booked out and then to have zero showings/cancellations/reschedules, it is a complete waste of my time when I could have seen others that wanted to see me. I tour in Europe, Caribbean and Asia only now because of things like this.

 

[bobbi 1388]

Bump for exposure purposes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit#

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

On 7/28/2019 at 11:29 PM, bobbi said:

Bumping in the name of exposure.

LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...1VsOMBSk/edit#

I've also revised the "Texting made VERY simple" section to these:

Text #1: "Hello [insert escort’s name], how are you? I saw your ad and I’d be interested in seeing you. Can I have your rates, included services, restrictions, and location please?”

Text #2: I just want to confirm that you are really the woman in the pictures of your ad? Or are you posting pictures you look similar to? I ask because many escorts post pictures of other women. Btw I would understand and respect if you didn't want to put your own pictures online for privacy reasons.

Text #3: Do you have an established social media or website that you use for work?
Or do you have a link to a review of yourself on an escort review board/forum?
Or do you have a full body proof picture of yourself with your phone # on a paper like many escorts have nowadays?
Sorry to ask but I'm sure you know that most ads on leolist are dishonest, or worse.

Text #4: Would you be understanding and accommodating to send me just ONE picture showing your FULL frontal body while doing this hand gesture: [insert specific hand emoji] Please? This would provide me reassurance that you are really this amazing looking. Showing your face and nudity is up to you, but the full body and hand gesture is KEY.

Text#3 allows for the escort to tell you if she's not just a random ad on LL which could save both parties time and aggravation. Of course the guy/client should have read the ad properly and at least Google her phone number first to see if any hints are available.

Sorry but I feel this is utterly insane! If i had these requests I would have you on my DNR list in a heart beat. 

I am not going to jump through hoops like a circus dog after having a business for 10 years, same phone number for 10 years, pages of reco's and a proper website.  I will gladly pass you by on these requests. It shows laziness that you have not bothered to research me and know with certainty that I am the lady you desire. 

I am sure you think these tips are useful, but for most of us established and selective ladies would not entertain this. 

[Boomer 33202]

I agree with Sophia, she has been on here for many years and with exemplier reputation

and history, should not need to answer a questionnaire.

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

Thanks Boomer, I am sure the OP may feel is extensive experience in this hobby should be invaluable to many new comers, however this advice will end many potential clients to end on DRN list. 

And Yes, although I am mostly NB and many already know that I am real deal.  When I do travel, and say in a new part of the country, I still would consider this as rude and lazy. With internet age there is no reason for ladies to have to jump threw these hoops. Image search and Google is all you need. 

It is the gent  who is contacting us, it is up to you to research. This is not MY hobby, its my job! As my part of my job is to provide true service as advertised. My job consist of updated photos, web design, screening, booking, and of course the service. 

Not the other way around, or I may have to insist my potential clients to have a website and photos and provide a home address  as well hahaha. 

[Phaedrus 209521]

12 hours ago, Studio 110 by Sophia said:

Sorry but I feel this is utterly insane! If i had these requests I would have you on my DNR list in a heart beat.

Must admit, I had the same reaction. I suspect a lot of guys that make these requests for pics are just getting off on the pics, or getting off on the power-trip of having the provider dance at their whim, and have no intention of booking at all. I'd have thought that a series of texts like that would be far more likely to get you on her list of timewasters than to get you the verification you desire.

Of course, YMMV...

[bobbi 1388]

On 9/17/2019 at 10:03 AM, Studio 110 by Sophia said:

Sorry but I feel this is utterly insane! If i had these requests I would have you on my DNR list in a heart beat. 

I am not going to jump through hoops like a circus dog after having a business for 10 years, same phone number for 10 years, pages of reco's and a proper website.  I will gladly pass you by on these requests. It shows laziness that you have not bothered to research me and know with certainty that I am the lady you desire. 

I am sure you think these tips are useful, but for most of us established and selective ladies would not entertain this. 

This guidance is not meant for established escorts such as yourself. 

 

It is intended for random escorts that have no reviews, no online presence, no social media, no verified pictures, no proof pictures, etc

 

Development have been incorporated:

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit#

 

Biz

[bobbi 1388]

A friendly bump since summer is here and things are slowly opening up...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit#

[bobbi 1388]

Lots of good info was added since 🙂