Misrepresentation

[forkyew 225]

Back in November I posted a thread about a miscommunication I had with an Escort that expected me to greet her in the lobby of the hotel.  Of course, a few of you, in particular a few escorts on this forum, chastised me for the way I handled myself.  Ok, lesson learned, it was a first for me.    For the longest time, I felt badly about this, until my most recent experience.

 

Over and over I read about you ladies having difficulty with the guys that contact you, play you, fail to follow through, etc.  Ok, fair enough. So, I just had an experience with a woman who just completely misrepresented herself.  Probably about 15 years older than the age reported on her ad.  Pictures that in no way matched up with her actual appearance because of this age gap.  I went through with it only because I was really hopeful that her massage skills after 10 years might be ok.  That part was moderate.

 

During the entire hour she was complaining about how awful guys are with her.   So ladies, how does this compute?  You want to be treated honestly, respectfully, etc., and then you pull a stunt like that?  Is it any wonder that many guys treat you like trash??

 

It truly is a crap shoot.  I will from this point forwards back out of an appointment in a flash with zero notice if there is even a hint that something isn't right!!

[Guest]

  First, Before someone else says it, you posted that thread in August, not November.

  Second, You're not helping yourself by playing the victim card in order to blame someone else for your decisions. If the lady misrepresented herself with fake/outdated pictures and description , you're in no obligations to go along with the session. What you experienced is sadly not that uncommon, but shouldn't be considered typical.

  And finally, The goal of Lyla is to avoid this by sharing information, experiences and read recommendations. If you ignore ladies with solid reputation and meet someone random, venting online after the facts will do you no good.

  Do your homework. And if you screw up, learn from it!

  

[forkyew 225]

You're right about the date.  The November I mistakenly selected was that of one of the last poster.  Sorry,

I would love to share this experience with specifics.  How do I help the rest of you to avoid my bad experience when I am not allowed to post a negative review?

Of course, I am learning from my experiences, nonetheless, I feel it appropriate to communicate the insanity of some of the whining I read from the escorts.  Practice what you preach, ladies!

In fact, that is probably one important observation to make the next time:  any woman who expresses some kind of complaint or demand on a guys behaviour in advertising is likely a red flag.

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, forkyew said:

Sorry, I would love to share this experience with specifics.  How do I help the rest of you to avoid my bad experience when I am not allowed to post a negative review?

    Not sure if you read the rules and f.a.q. but this is NOT a review board. It's a place to post recommendations and warnings. If you determine the woman you met was a "bait & switch", defrauded you or exposed you to something dangerous, you can post it in the Warning forum. But if the experience was just bad, bite the bullet and look for someone better. And if you feel the need to vent about the experience , you can post it on a website that allows negative feedback.

    As for the "whining", I'm not gonna comment on the matter. All members are allowed to share their opinions while respecting the rules of the board. Respect goes both ways. If you judge all because of your negative experiences, you're not going to make many friends here. No matter the forum you use, there's a good database of talented and reliable women to choose from. If you ignore it and look elsewhere, please don't complain.

   Have a nice week-end.

[forkyew 225]

Greenteal, this was a long term member of Lyla.  Admittedly, few comments written about her, but ...  We certainly, can't count on long term members of this site being of good quality.  OK, I'm new to this, lesson learned! 

You also have a nice weekend.

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, forkyew said:

Greenteal, this was a long term member of Lyla.  Admittedly, few comments written about her, but ...  We certainly, can't count on long term members of this site being of good quality.  OK, I'm new to this, lesson learned! 

You also have a nice weekend.

     No matter their membership status, the amount of recommendations(or lack of) should be taken into consideration.

[Rambler1980 1359]

First off I feel for you forkyou. It's no fun spending 100's of dollars for what you hope is going to be an amazing experience and have it fail to meet your expectations by a country mile. 

 

I've been friends with numerous providers and know they deal with loads of bullshit from idiots who either had no intention of booking or have zero regards for the fact these ladies are human or might be depending on the business you negotiated with them. Clients cancel last minute or show up 15, 20, 30 minutes late with no notice. Show up drunk or high, show up smelling like a garbage truck, etc. I arrived to pickup a provider at her hotel (we were friends) and the room utterly stank and she explained it was her previous client and that was after she'd forced him to shower. I can't imagine. 

 

As a client I always try to treat providers fairly but I've also been jerked around. Stuff like great communication up to maybe 20 minutes before the appointment then I'm ghosted. Of course we've all dealt with pictures that show a lady who's a perfect 10 and arrive to find a lady who's a walrus (no disrespect to walrus's). Had the lady agree to services and then when I arrive say they did not and refuse to even look at the texts confirming my assertion. Had 1 hour appointments and been rushed out the door in 20 minutes, etc. We've all dealt with it, but those ladies are the minority, there's plenty of ladies out there who take pride in offering good services, fair rates and are genuinely nice people. In whatever city you live, post a topic with some of the things you'd like in a provider and ask for recommendations. You'll get locals with experience who will help you out. Doesn't mean you'll love every provider that's recommended to you, but it makes a great starting point. 

 

And remember that if you've agreed to something with a provider then go through with your commitments and expect her to do the same. If she's over promised feel free to back out of the transaction but if you've fucked up (late, dirty, drunk, disrespectful) then expect her to kick you out, cut short the service or otherwise under-deliver and I have no sympathy for you in that scenario. Expect the ladies to have a fairly short amount of patience for screwups on your part, they deal with a lot. 

 

You commented about the lady trash talking clients for the entire appointment. I agree that would probably be a turn off for me, but I'd have no issue paying for the appointment as agreed and chalk that up to incompatibility between myself and the provider and just not rebook with her. 

 

I too sometimes wish we could post reviews not recommendations but the rules are the rules and there's lots of ways to get your message across without violating them. But loads of providers I've seen I just post nothing about as I cannot recommend them. I will say that for many providers who I cannot in good faith recommend, I can also see how someone else might gel with them and like them. So to each their own. By the way, while I do wish reviews were allowed I can see why they are not, too easy for ladies to undercut each other with bad reviews and clients with a bone to pick to post a bad review. If they could limit reviews to say senior members or limit the number of negative reviews per user or something I'd be interested in seeing how that played out.  

 

My second comment is that given you've not posted a lot, don't worry too much about Greenteal, I'd say even he'd agree he's argumentative. 

 

 

[drakas 67]

Firstly:

Secondly: https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1326674-all-women-are-queens

Case closed.

[forkyew 225]

Honestly, Rambler, I would never do any of the things that you are describing in your post.  I am always clean and sober for any encounter of this kind.  I would never negotiate or short a woman.  I behave always in an ethical way.  I also like to keep my commitments.  Unfortunately, I have to listen to my instincts.  In the future, I will not carry through if something doesn't feel right.  It's tough in the situation I was in.   No idea if this woman is volatile, has someone watching her, etc.  Backing out could be just as, or more dangerous than carrying through. 

Anyhow, there are two sides to this, Ladies.  Complain all you want about the men;  there are a big chunk of women in this business who are just as bad.  

Again, I am new to this and have a lot to learn.

[forkyew 225]

Drakas, I hope you were just trying to be funny.

All women are queens?  We gotta respect all women?  This is total BS!!

Women are human beings.  We do not need to respect all human beings.  Some human beings are horrible.  This includes women.  It also includes men.

Respect is earned. It is not something that is simply granted to you because you happen to have a specific gender.

[drakas 67]

You're completely overthinking this.

And don't make me laugh. You can't even tolerate that a stranger you paid a really insignificant amount of money to tolerate your own company for a limited amount of time turns out to be slightly older and as a result you completely lose control of the situation and are miserable after agreeing about it? And this causes you to call out all the women?

Listen where I'm from if the time came and it was you and the walrus and you didn't absolutely suit up, show up and bro-fist afterwards you would lose your fucking man card.

For me I try to focus on what it takes to be a man rather than wasting energy on bitching about who "deserves" respect.

Me:

You:

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[Katherine of Halifax 113932]

On 6/21/2019 at 1:44 PM, Greenteal said:

  First, Before someone else says it, you posted that thread in August, not November.

  Second, You're not helping yourself by playing the victim card in order to blame someone else for your decisions. If the lady misrepresented herself with fake/outdated pictures and description , you're in no obligations to go along with the session. What you experienced is sadly not that uncommon, but shouldn't be considered typical.

  And finally, The goal of Lyla is to avoid this by sharing information, experiences and read recommendations. If you ignore ladies with solid reputation and meet someone random, venting online after the facts will do you no good.

  Do your homework. And if you screw up, learn from it!

  

 

On 6/21/2019 at 1:44 PM, Greenteal said:

  First, Before someone else says it, you posted that thread in August, not November.

  Second, You're not helping yourself by playing the victim card in order to blame someone else for your decisions. If the lady misrepresented herself with fake/outdated pictures and description , you're in no obligations to go along with the session. What you experienced is sadly not that uncommon, but shouldn't be considered typical.

  And finally, The goal of Lyla is to avoid this by sharing information, experiences and read recommendations. If you ignore ladies with solid reputation and meet someone random, venting online after the facts will do you no good.

  Do your homework. And if you screw up, learn from it!

  

Oh oh, Another argument about the same as I read on .  People don't  like absolute truths so I'm  going to bow out here . Have fun . xoxo

[Rambler1980 1359]

11 hours ago, Katherine of Halifax said:

 

Oh oh, Another argument about the same as I read on .  People don't  like absolute truths so I'm  going to bow out here . Have fun . xoxo

 

 

I'm with you Catherine, this seems to be a poo slinging thread now. I'm out too. 🙂

[WildTiger 1296]

On 6/21/2019 at 11:17 PM, forkyew said:

We gotta respect all women?  This is total BS!!

Women are human beings.  We do not need to respect all human beings.  Some human beings are horrible.  This includes women.  It also includes men.

Respect is earned. It is not something that is simply granted to you because you happen to have a specific gender.

I've got to say forkyew that I have a slightly different view on respecting people.  I believe that all people deserve a basic level of respect.  After that they can earn greater respect, or lose it, by their actions.  In my experience, people that feel respected will return the respect to you and generally results in a much more pleasant encounter.  JMHO.

[drakas 67]

Problem is most dudes seem think that respecting all women, to the same degree you respect your mom for giving you your fucking life, is somehow equivalent to being castrated. Same toxic masculinity you see in bros bitching about being "pussy whipped" wrt a woman or mocking other men about it. Same toxic masculinity you see in bros calling out all women when they've been mistreated in a particular circumstance. Same toxic masculinity you see when men justify hitting or verbally abusing a woman. It's all related.

Personally I trend toward not ever revoking respect since overall that seems like a more harmful example as a pattern of behaviour than being inconvenienced and potentially suffering (in silence of course ). For me it's never a question of respect, it's a question of association or disassociation. I can choose not to communicate with someone and still respect who they are. Personally I wouldn't wish anything bad to happen to anyone, but also want absolutely nothing to do with a lot of people.

[Guest]

     As much I understand where the OP is coming from (up to a certain point), I don't think this thread is very productive. There other threads on the subject that been far more civilised on the matter. And I don't think we need to define what respect is or should be.

     Better try to end it on a positive note before the mods jump in to pull the plug.