GFE details please

[roamingguy 300292]

RG

 

Do some reading

Its becoming more common today then ever before in bigger cities

More girls are offering it to stay in business

Yes there is a risk in it

There seems to be a lot of guys that like it

No different then picking up some girl at the bar

Guys get a rush out of it.

I can understand

I've been there

 

I hope we get more girls here that offer the true GFE

 

First all the reading regarding seeing ladies is their profiles/websites/threads...and the ladies I see are smart enough not to offer bbfs

Second, I may be living in a smalltown, but I see ladies are in bigger cities, specifically Toronto, Hamilton and Ottawa...those cities big enough for you

I don't care whether a guy I don't know gets a rush out of it and a lady offers it to stay in business, it's plain dumb, russian roulette

Yes the only safe sex is by yourself with your hands

But bbfs is dumb, on both the lady's and the guy's part, so frankly, your post, I don't understand

I hope we don't get more lady's offering your version of GFE, I hope they live a long healthy life instead

RG

[Guest ***t***iv***]

No different then picking up some girl at the bar

 

it sure is different, IMHO. taking a risk in a bar with non working girls and going BBFS with a SP is so different its not even on the same continent!

 

if a SP goes BB with you, woo hoo you get a rush for ten, maybe twenty minutes. but she doesnt just do it with you, and she doesnt know which client is diseased or disease free.

So, any hobbyist willing to go BBFS with a SP is, IMO same as Madison's, not someone I would want to see as a client. If a hobbyist wanted me to provide BBFS, that would be a red flag, and I would likely screen out that person because of it. What if the protection broke when I'm with a hobbyist that sees even one other SP BB?

That's not worth the risk to me, and I have a real tough time believing that an unsafe trend is going to change things, as they have worked this way for a very long time, successfully. I haven't even had a hobbyist ask me that since I started in this gig 6 years ago.

 

I think if a SP wants to stay in this bizness, safety is key. If you're in it for a quick buck to get you started on other things, the risk may be more worth taking. make more to risk more, but in a shorter time frame.

 

I am glad to be in a smaller city because I do not feel I have to worry about safety-first ever being an issue. What married man is going to risk bringing home an sti to his loving wife just to get an added rush? None I've seen. Hell, I bet if I up and tried to do BBFS, clients would be like woah, no. LMAO- kidding gents, I'd never do that... I like my clients to stay healthy too, so they can keep coming back to see me. ;)

 

I think, what I'm reading is supposed to be one mans opinion, but sounds like its frustrated because no one shares it...

[Fallguy 246]

I too have been following this thread.Over the years,I have spent time with a number of Ladies,and have never used these terms knowing that

they would normally create some issues when both parties met after the

initial contact,be it by phone or email.

 

I have to agree with two of the replies.

 

1)When the Gentleman makes the initial contact,he should be VERY CLEAR when asking what services the Lady is offerring,and what he is

looking for regardless of what her ad reads.

 

2)I also think the response from the Lady should be VERY CLEAR when

she is answering his questions,so that when the meeting takes place,both

parties know exactly what is going to happen,and the two enjoy their time

spent together.

 

Just my thoughts......seems to have worked well for me over the years.

[Madison_Sparks 3740]

I'd have to say I agree with sugar and roaming................ I've worked on and off (mostly on) in the Bay for 10 years, most of the people from ten years ago are not around............. there is a reason for that. I know of 3 personaly that have fallen victim to hepC and HIV for an extra $100. not worth the lives they live now, one already passed away.

 

If BB is the trend we are getting into then my business is going to go WAY up for the responsible and respectable people who want to be safe. as some girls cater to a BB menu, I will attract those who find heath important. And if there are a bunch of unsafe girls in the area's I work then that just means bigger business for me!!!!

 

Hey birds of a feather fly together right? I wish everyone the best of health, and that is why I can still be doing the work i love 10 years in and going strong :D

[samcro 63]

If you think most guys want to be safe

I'm sorry to say but you a dilusional

Take a look on BP

See how many SPs offer bbbj

Is that because no one wants it??

Spend some time on other boards and see how many SPs have

been put out of business because of lack of service

These are just observations from the 1000's of threads I have read

 

RG, maybe GFE isnt for you

Maybe you want all of the extra emotional attention

If so, thats your thing

Nothing wrong with that

I'm into if for the action

If I wanted all of that emotional stuff

I would get a GF

[jimbean 101]

Wow.....BB this.....BB..... that....GFE.......here I am...a service....user...I speak from the male perspective...only mine....only myself...:-).....Let me repeat that......:-)

[Madison_Sparks 3740]

SAMCRO

 

I see your point, they offer BB.

My point how many of these girls can you follow for over 5 yrs?

 

Yes, from some extra scouting around I see that GFE involves BB services most times so I guess that would be the norm.

 

If I need to be clearer, I agree w/u................. GFE in general means the services rendered are BB. And I hope all of the SP's and hobbiest the best of luck in their game of STI roulette.

 

But you do know that the stigma against call girls and clients are crime, drugs, and disease? why would anyone who takes this as a serious job or a user of services want to fan the communities flames higher and drive the lot of us to our knees? (and not in the good way)

 

Personally I LOVE MY JOB!!!!! and I hate having to work so hard at convincing "normal people" (as they like to call themselves) that what I do isn't dirty and that personal life is NEVER affected by my work.

 

So wish we had an escort school in canada, they have them in London England and Germany. teaching potentical SP's the legalistic, business, and safety of the job. Licenced independents doing their taxes and not having to shy away from thier communities out of shame.

 

Ahhhhh if only in a perfect world.

 

ah well soon enough they will all learn their lessons and the "safe girls" will still be going strong.

 

There is something great to put on my tombstone "BB will cost you $500 more" I'd love for my future grand kids to read that *cough*sarcasm*cough*

[Former Moderator 2840]

Samcro, change your tone you are becoming argumentative. Be nice.

[Cassandra Hills 101]

RG

 

Do some reading

Its becoming more common today then ever before in bigger cities

More girls are offering it to stay in business

Yes there is a risk in it

There seems to be a lot of guys that like it

No different then picking up some girl at the bar

Guys get a rush out of it.

I can understand

I've been there

 

I hope we get more girls here that offer the true GFE

 

Hmm, I'm pretty sure you are being added to many SP's list as do not see.

[bigmammaryfan 113]

But enjoy it while you can

Times are changing

 

Times may be changing, but I think there are still some of the same old STD's out there, well, my 2 cents anyways.

[samcro 63]

No prob Mod Boss

All good

[Andee 220524]

It is so competitive now that SPs are offering BBFS to get an edge up

 

This will never become the NORM in my opinion. Since the beginning of time, there have always been and always will be someone out there who will do anything for money and those willing to pay to get that.

 

Do you think that all clients secretly want to have BBFS and are just waiting for the girls to offer it and girls will feel pressured to do so to stay in business? I know plenty of gents who would not dare go there, as nor would I, so you go ahead and live in your world, and like-minded people like me can stay in our world.

 

 

 

 

 

Additional Comments:

RG

 

Do some reading

Its becoming more common today then ever before in bigger cities

More girls are offering it to stay in business

Yes there is a risk in it

There seems to be a lot of guys that like it

No different then picking up some girl at the bar

Guys get a rush out of it.

I can understand

I've been there

 

I hope we get more girls here that offer the true GFE

 

So are you saying you have been with ladies who offer bbfs and that this is your definition of "true GFE". According to who's definition -yours? I am a "true GFE" and can assure will NEVER EVER offer bbfs.

 

Shame on you. I can assure you that by declaring that, you are probably on most ladies Do Not See List now.

 

Hope the rush was worth it.

[mod 135640]

i need to chirp in too. i do not like anyone trying to promote, encourage or ask or bbfs on cerb. If this is what you are looking for you need to look somewhere else and not cerb. if you pm a lady asking for this (or) post asking for it we will remove you from the site. you put yourself, the ladies and other members in risk and this adds to negative stereotypes and sets the inustry back. in this day and age its too risky for anyone to do and anyone seeking this out is playing russian roulette. ask yourself if someone is willing to do this then they must have nothing to loose. these days it is not about just getting knoked up... your playing with deadly sti's and the rest of us pay for your heathcare!

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

I suppose I may as well weigh in. Even though I really have nothing to add.

 

It's certainly interesting to discuss what specific "services" GFE typically might include, as we've been doing here. It allows us all to get a sense of the range of opinion that's out there. But there's so much of a variance, on a lady-by-lady basis, that any client for whom specific services are important ... must ask about them (if they're not listed). That's just the way it is, on a practical, working level. Don't make assumptions, or have expectations, without asking the lady about what specific services are available.

 

To think that specific activities need be implied by either of the terms "GFE" of "PSE" would be to make a sort of "category mistake", I tend to believe. The "Experience" acronyms, for me, really are best understood as applying to the general approach and atmosphere of an encounter, not to specific services:

 

GFE

= a friendly, intimate, relaxed approach to the encounter - where the main (but not necessarily exclusive)

focus is on each other

 

PSE

= a more energetic, and therefore probably less relaxed and less intimate, approach to the encounter - where the main (but not necessarily exclusive)

focus is on the sex itself

 

Obviously, even defining the two terms so narrowly, it's not necessarily an either/or distinction.

 

Analogy (with reference to the category mistake only):

 

If I want to study Philosophy, I sign up at a University, pay my tuition, and then ask: "Where's the Philosophy Department?" But if I'm then told "This University doesn't have a Philosophy Department", it's my mistake for not asking first. I'm free to hold the opinion that "all universities should have philosophy departments!", but I can't with justification say "No philosophy? Then this isn't a University at all!". Same way with GFE/PSE - I can't with justification say "No [fill in the service of your choice]? Then this isn't a GFE/PSE after all!"

 

That's the approach I take, anyway.

[Shelly Lane 13856]

Oh thank god someone finally gets it!! Thank you, thank you!!!

 

Thanks W.I.T

[jimbean 101]

Well, read my previous post.....asshole comes to mind....time to give my two cents..I have experienced a few SP's and during those encounters, they were willing to accept an extra donation for a BB experience. Foolish, but I as a "dick head" I accepted BBBJ.....fortunatuneatly, to this day, to be clean and safe. GFE to me, as a man who loves the company of an SP, regardless of race, color, creed, size whatever......GFE is just being comfortable for that hour or so, no one to justify anything to, professional transaction, I'm smiling when you come in and smiling when you leave. I will be safe and I hope you are, I'm calling because I just want the company of a beautiful woman for a brief period of time, company that will remind me that I am okay and so are you. Hey just the thoughts of a man who loves what you ladies do...JB

[Guest ***t***iv***]

Hey Sugar

re read please cause you got a few things jumbled up

I am simply stating a clear definition of terms would clear up a lot of confusion.

I never said anything anywhere about body fluid, intimacy etc etc.

I have stated that the terms should be clear instead of being used as a marketing tool and then there would be a lot less confusion. You yourself started this looking for a definition.

A sp is free to do whatever she wants, I totally agree with that but I do not believe it is fair for one sp to advertise their selective GFE as GFE in order to levell the playing field with another sp that provides true GFE.

 

 

Firstly, I'm not even following this thread anymore but technically:

 

I started this looking for details, nothing more nothing less- a definition is what I wanted to form all by myself.

 

BTW, if you see a SP just because they advertise 'true GFE' or 'GFE' without finding out more, I would urge YOU to reread this thread. There are too many varying factors to define a GFE' any one way. If one truly wanted to 'level the playing field', they would simply offer the same menu services as everyone else. It isn't nice for you to say that a SP is misrepresenting herself when you clearly are aware that definition of GFE, true GFE, safe GFE varies completely person to person. if they offer (their idea of) GFE and wanna advertise that, what difference does it make?

is it so hard just to ask? make sure you're getting what you want?

 

what exactly did I get jumbled up about it?