GFE details please

[etasman2000 15994]

If she tells me or advertises that she won't kiss, then I move on. For me that who is seeking a lady, my preference is being intimate, that would mean kissing to DFK as I thoroughly enjoy this part of a date.

 

This is an important point. I don't require kissing as part of my GFE just as I don't particularly care for a BBBJ either.

 

Meaning, even as one client would give a pass on the SP, another (like myself) would be interested in seeing her.

 

In short, there is a client for every service and the SP determines what are the services provided.

[samcro 63]

I agree with Rob01

Who cares if she leaves her purse in the room with you or takes it with her to the bathroom

If your looking for that type of interaction, you got issues

 

If SPs dont want to provide lfk,dfk or bbbj

Then don't advertise GFE and you wont have a problem.

It's the SPs that feel they have to lie about their service to sucker guys in

These boards provide us with a chance to really find out what a girl is about

Once the jig is up for an SP

She most likely changes her name and number to start the cycle all over again

GFE is for girlfriend experience

For guys who enjoy this hobby, we know what it means

We don't do it because I want to have an emotional experiece with the SP

Why don't those guys get her to make you a sandwich too

Then let her bitch at you about her day

That would be the real GFE

 

If I can't get GFE

I'm not booking

[Leber 1328]

Here's my two cents. The point of this thread was to clarify the term GFE so that we all know what to expect from a GFE date. After a few posts/responses, it looks like we didn't get very far and "GFE" is still based on personal preferences. Personally, I think GFE should be service based and it should include DFK at the minimum.

 

Oh, I like Pete's "GIE". I'm wondering who will mention it first in their advertisements. For most shy guys (like myself), they do prefer the GIE service.

[Rob01 170]

"As for a menu, well one well known lady doesn't have a menu, at all, but offers a great and memorable GFE.

For me, there is only one menu item essential for a GFE, and that is kissing

Some more thoughts

RG "

so what would you think when a sp advertised gfe and then told you no to lfk / dfk ? ... That is why there are theese terms, standards = no confusion

 

"Trying to force women to do things that make then uncomfortable based on the stereotype that a "real" girlfriend would do that is absurd. Its all about health, safety and the woman comfort. That goes for ALL women not just SP's."

april, I have read nothing here that even remotely implied forcing anyone to do anything, I am offended that you would reply stating something like that. We are talking about industry terms and what we feel is real / fake gfe and how unfair it is to the hobbiest to be misled.

 

Samcro .. you said it best

"If I can't get GFE

I'm not booking"

 

and that my friends, I believe, is why so many sp's are calling thier services gfe when in reality they are safe providers. I'm sure there are a lot of guy's that at the time feel it's best to just accept it, pay the price, do the deed and move along never calling that sp again.

There is nothing wrong with safe / non gfe/ bb nothing providers but calling the service gfe is misleading.

[Guest ***t***iv***]

this discussion has gone over and the same two sides of the coin here.

now that the thread has taken on a different spin, I have to speak my mind again.

it seemed pretty simple the first few posts on this thread said: GFE- speaks to services rendered

true GFE- speaks to intimacy of encounter

 

apparently, all thats needed is clarification as many clients and SP's appear to have different understandings of what these terms mean.

 

using myself as an example, I would advertise that I:

 

-do not offer GFE in terms of services rendered. if you're looking for a particular service, ask

 

-strictly offer the true GFE intimate encounter, by ensuring your comfortable and relaxed, like you were spending time with a cherished friend throughout the date, but all my dates are safe, first and foremost.

 

and rob01, I practically could clobber you with your post:

I posted looking for peoples individual opinion, not to ask one guy to speak for them all.. clearly you have not even read the entire thread because you would have seen that the first half of the replies to this post describe that most SP's view it as about the encounter in a personal sense, not about services offered, whether they are safe or unsafe..

 

I think it's sad that there are men like you that think a man would have issues because he looks for trust and real intimacy on a date with an SP, instead of seeking to exchange bodily fluids or risk infection. IMHO, it seems like you are the one with issues if you can only enjoy raw physical unsafe activity and can't imagine a deeper meaningful connection being valued by anyone. That's a closed mind.

 

and BTW, I guess I'm an SP that changes her name to hide her scam lol

thats ridiculously narrow minded- why would it ever be the girls fault that the guy didn't ask what was on the menu before he ordered? If YOU, the client, seek something specific that you will not be satisfied without receiving, why on earth are you booking without knowing if its offered or not?/ so not the girls fault. I don't have a problem answering questions but when most clients are just looking for the basics anyway, why should I waste my breath stating everything I do/do not offer? its my job to provide the escort service to you, its your job to make sure you read what you're about to eat, especially if you have allergies (to.. girls that don't kiss lol). Because I am an SP that, thanks to THIS thread, advertises that the true GFE is offered, though YMMV because I don't kiss or offer unsafe acts, ever. I'm speaking about personal connection, interaction and encounter. not the acts preformed. that part is kind of a given right? (automatically assumed to be included)

 

AND finally, speaking as a girl who has changed her name periodically for fun and for trying to find one that sticks, clients not liking my service has never been the reason I change my name/number. If not for fun, its to avoid pranks etc that happen more often than you think in a small city like tbay.

An SP can offer GFE with no unsafe acts, if that is her prerogative. They provide the service, you seek the service. Does BK advertise that they will serve you a whopper with no tomato? NO, you have to ask for no tomato.

[PistolPete 61421]

If I'm looking for a lady to spank my ass:spank: and do other naughty things with me:bondage: or:aol_footfetish: or:aol_anal: or simply some tender loving:positioncolor_3: then you have to ask the question to the lady.

 

If she advertises GFE without the following....it would keep gents well informed, but don't say I'm GFE and almost PSE and then you do not perform certain services, if you know what I mean.

 

It is the ladies discretion, and her safety for what she offers, but ensure it is always advertised that way.

 

 

 

 

In short, there is a client for every service and the SP determines what are the services provided.

[roamingguy 300292]

Frankly, if all guys are just looking for is a list of services off a menu, wouldn't they be further ahead to go for a PSE

I still maintain a GFE has to be more than services off a menu

Or if it's just services, would, hypothetically speaking now, since it's not legal, going to a street corner, getting all the services you want from a woman, and doing it in the backseat of a car or the no tell motel qualify as a GFE...don't think so. And I'm not endorsing this practice first and formost because it isn't legal, it was a hypothetical argument

As for a GFE being more than a menu of services, it being a social/interpersonal encounter which includes sex, how many SP's offer overnight dates, 4-5 hour dates which include dinner out etc etc etc...unless your planning to do on the table at the restaurant, it is more than just sex

If just a menu your looking for, maybe PSE is more to your liking

RG

[Guest t**obb****]

Where did the term google it come from?

An industry leader in search engines.

 

In thunder bay, correct me if I'm wrong, there are not a lot of providers advertising GFE, safe or not.

 

I say, to SPs, create the service and make the term mean what you want it to mean in your market.

 

I am happy to say (biased somewhat), that Sugar_Kayne, and all her derivative names that I have seen her under, provides what she says she offers.

 

I'd say skip the GFE term, and create your own for the TBay market.

 

How about "Wake the Giant" service.

[PistolPete 61421]

Perhaps I can show you many web sites of ladies that have NO menu but offer very close to PSE service, so yes it is interpersonal and at the lady's discretion of course, I know quite a few ladies that fall into this area of service.

 

Using that hypothetical example about services and going to street corner is out of bounds RG, I don't like that personally.

 

I'm sure you know that some ladies that advertise GFE offer a WHOLE lot more then what you are stating, and by the way their is probably 90% or better (ladies) that may not advertise sleep overs or 4 to 5 hour dates, but will do them, based on the client and SP relationship.

 

 

 

Frankly, if all guys are just looking for is a list of services off a menu, wouldn't they be further ahead to go for a PSE

I still maintain a GFE has to be more than services off a menu

Or if it's just services, would, hypothetically speaking now, since it's not legal, going to a street corner, getting all the services you want from a woman, and doing it in the backseat of a car or the no tell motel qualify as a GFE...don't think so. And I'm not endorsing this practice first and formost because it isn't legal, it was a hypothetical argument

As for a GFE being more than a menu of services, it being a social/interpersonal encounter which includes sex, how many SP's offer overnight dates, 4-5 hour dates which include dinner out etc etc etc...unless your planning to do on the table at the restaurant, it is more than just sex

If just a menu your looking for, maybe PSE is more to your liking

RG

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

Frankly, if all guys are just looking for is a list of services off a menu, wouldn't they be further ahead to go for a PSE

I still maintain a GFE has to be more than services off a menu

RG, let me try to understand the above... GFE is more then services offered, it's also an attitude BUT PSE is only "services off a menu"???

Would you care explaining that one to me?

 

Or if it's just services, would, hypothetically speaking now, since it's not legal, going to a street corner, getting all the services you want from a woman, and doing it in the backseat of a car or the no tell motel qualify as a GFE...don't think so.

I know that some GFE ladies (I'm excluding myself in this one) will accept outcall rendez-vous at "no tell motels"...

Does that make them less GFE in your books or do you think it has to do with a poor BFE (boy friend experience)? ;)

 

And I'm not endorsing this practice first and formost because it isn't legal, it was a hypothetical argument

As for a GFE being more than a menu of services, it being a social/interpersonal encounter which includes sex, how many SP's offer overnight dates, 4-5 hour dates which include dinner out etc etc etc...unless your planning to do on the table at the restaurant, it is more than just sex

If just a menu your looking for, maybe PSE is more to your liking

RG

 

RG, I have to comment on this one...

I'm a total GFE companion, both in attitude including acronyms (ldk, dfk, bj, daty, hj, covered fs, msog, sensual erotic massages) and I go out regurlarly on dinner dates with my gentlemen.

Now, I do not advertise as PSE because PSE also includes some acronyms I'm not comfortable providing (cim and greek) but I do not lack one ounce of the PSE attitude once I am alone with my gentleman and will also partake in other PSE pleasures like foot fetishes, cob, light domination, etc...

 

So it is possible for a lady to be both GFE and PSE or simply PSE without having to "order off a menu". PSE is also an "attitude" just like GFE is!

 

Side note:

Some PSE ladies will charge more for certain activities such as GREEK but I have seen safe GFE ladies become "unsafe" and advertise BBBJ for extra too. What would we call that? A service off a "menu"?

[roamingguy 300292]

My understanding of PSE is it's more for lack of a better word, sexually performance based type of encounter, like one would see in porn movies.

The urban dictionary defines PSE as

PSE (pornstar experience) is that a PSE will not talk first like a girlfreind, they just get straight to the sex part, and Never use a condom. that is a PSE.

For me though, the no condom part, don't know how true, hope not, but that is the urban dictionary definition

But that certainly sounds like services off a menu doesn't it, and leads me to believe it is strictly focused on the sex act (s) only.

 

As for the no tell motel comment, in entirety my phrase was

 

Or if it's just services, would, hypothetically speaking now, since it's not legal, going to a street corner, getting all the services you want from a woman, and doing it in the backseat of a car or the no tell motel qualify as a GFE...don't think so. And I'm not endorsing this practice first and formost because it isn't legal, it was a hypothetical argument

 

The gist of some posts seemed focused on GFE as menu of services only. Does after reading my hypothetical argument in entirety qualify as GFE

My argument was trying to make the point that if a woman is picked up for the sole purpose of services off a menu nothing more, that to me is not a GFE, a PSE, maybe, but not a GFE

Now if a lady provides a GFE, which to me encompasses the interpersonal and social aspects of being with a woman over and above the sexual, whether at the lady's incall, or a hotel, or the no tell motel, that is a GFE

RG

 

Additional Comments:

A quick additional quote from the urban dictionary on the gfe

It states

 

When an escort offers a service more akin to a 'real' relationship rather than just sex. The escort may go with the payer to dinner / the movies etc and engage in conversation, kissing and so forth, before retiring for sex (as what might occur when dating). Men who indulge in such Girlfriend Experiences with escorts are said to be enjoying The Hobby.

 

It would seem from this definition that the gfe is less focused on the so called menu and more on the interpersonal aspect of the encounter

RG

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

As for the no tell motel comment, in entirety my phrase was

 

Or if it's just services, would, hypothetically speaking now, since it's not legal, going to a street corner, getting all the services you want from a woman, and doing it in the backseat of a car or the no tell motel qualify as a GFE...don't think so. And I'm not endorsing this practice first and formost because it isn't legal, it was a hypothetical argument

My mistake for misunderstanding the above. I apologise.

 

My understanding of PSE is it's more for lack of a better word, sexually performance based type of encounter, like one would see in porn movies.

The urban dictionary defines PSE as

PSE (pornstar experience) is that a PSE will not talk first like a girlfreind, they just get straight to the sex part, and Never use a condom. that is a PSE.

For me though, the no condom part, don't know how true, hope not, but that is the urban dictionary definition

But that certainly sounds like services off a menu doesn't it, and leads me to believe it is strictly focused on the sex act (s) only...

In "real life", not in porns but in the hobby, PSE does NOT mean or include intercourse without a condom... just like GFE.

 

Additional Comments:

A quick additional quote from the urban dictionary on the gfe

It states

 

When an escort offers a service more akin to a 'real' relationship rather than just sex. The escort may go with the payer to dinner / the movies etc and engage in conversation, kissing and so forth, before retiring for sex (as what might occur when dating). Men who indulge in such Girlfriend Experiences with escorts are said to be enjoying The Hobby.

 

It would seem from this definition that the gfe is less focused on the so called menu and more on the interpersonal aspect of the encounter

RG

 

RG, I do not mean to "nitpick" at your last post and would like to add a few comments regarding the various definitions taken from the urban dictionary since you made reference to it...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=full%20gfe

 

IF you carefully read the many GFE definitions listed on that page you will see that some refer to various acronyms (lfk, dfk, bj, daty) and some even imply unprotected intercourse! Yes, for GFE!

Now, we all know it is not the case when it comes to the hobby. There are NO valid reasons to assume PSE providers offer bare back intercourse!

 

Furthermore,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience

and I totally agree with the following:

"The "girlfriend experience" generally involves more personal interaction than a traditional call girl or escort offers; it varies widely from person to person, however. There is a focus on not just having sex, but also having more of a comprehensive experience."

 

BUT it also says:

"Often sessions last longer and are "no rush," which means the call girl spends the full advertised time rather than rushing out after the sex is over. Common activities usually offered by GFE escorts include kissing and/or french kissing, cuddling and foreplay.

A call girl advertising the provision of a "girlfriend experience" is implying that she provides deep french kissing (DFK), "full service" (intercourse) usually with protection, and fellatio and cunnilingus, both with or without protection. Advertising a "girlfriend experience" is sometimes used by call girls to promote business."

 

Whether we like it or not, whether we want to admit it or not, the term GFE also comes with a certain

"menu" aspect and not just an "attitude".

[roamingguy 300292]

My mistake for misunderstanding the above. I apologise.

 

Gabriella

No need for an apology, we're good

 

 

In "real life", not in porns but in the hobby, PSE does NOT mean or include intercourse without a condom... just like GFE.

 

I'm in full agreement with you, it was the urban dictionary that said without condom, actually I was surprised at that

 

 

 

 

RG, I do not mean to "nitpick" at your last post and would like to add a few comments regarding the various definitions taken from the urban dictionary since you made reference to it...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=full%20gfe

 

IF you carefully read the many GFE definitions listed on that page you will see that some refer to various acronyms (lfk, dfk, bj, daty) and some even imply unprotected intercourse! Yes, for GFE!

Now, we all know it is not the case when it comes to the hobby. There are NO valid reasons to assume PSE providers offer bare back intercourse!

 

Don't worry, I don't assume PSE includes bareback intercourse, and I would walk, nay run away from any lady offering such service, if she would do it for one, she would do it for all...and the ladies I have met are much much much smarter than that.

 

Furthermore,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience

and I totally agree with the following:

"The "girlfriend experience" generally involves more personal interaction than a traditional call girl or escort offers; it varies widely from person to person, however. There is a focus on not just having sex, but also having more of a comprehensive experience."

 

BUT it also says:

"Often sessions last longer and are "no rush," which means the call girl spends the full advertised time rather than rushing out after the sex is over. Common activities usually offered by GFE escorts include kissing and/or french kissing, cuddling and foreplay.

A call girl advertising the provision of a "girlfriend experience" is implying that she provides deep french kissing (DFK), "full service" (intercourse) usually with protection, and fellatio and cunnilingus, both with or without protection. Advertising a "girlfriend experience" is sometimes used by call girls to promote business."

 

Whether we like it or not, whether we want to admit it or not, the term GFE also comes with a certain

"menu" aspect and not just an "attitude".

 

I don't disagree with you in the least that there is a sexual side (or menu side) of the GFE. I just am of the opinion that the GFE is more than just the list of services that's all, and in my experience, the GFE begins before clothes are even removed. Merely providing sexual services and nothing more is not IMHO a GFE.

And as a footnote, for those who want just a menu of services, nothing more, there isn't anything wrong with that. One thing about this hobby is there is something and someone for everyone

 

RG

[Rob01 170]

Hey Sugar

re read please cause you got a few things jumbled up

I am simply stating a clear definition of terms would clear up a lot of confusion.

I never said anything anywhere about body fluid, intimacy etc etc.

I have stated that the terms should be clear instead of being used as a marketing tool and then there would be a lot less confusion. You yourself started this looking for a definition.

A sp is free to do whatever she wants, I totally agree with that but I do not believe it is fair for one sp to advertise their selective GFE as GFE in order to levell the playing field with another sp that provides true GFE.

[PistolPete 61421]

Here is some examples of advertising right off web sites from ladies of Cerb or Agencies (which could be very mis-leading, or in fact there is no mis-leading you must ask the question)

 

GFE Details...mmmmmm

 

1) 'Full GFE + ' ( okay + what? ) us gents need to ask the question

 

2) 'The ultimate GFE attitude' ( Attitude? we all have attitude right?)

 

3) 'Escorts providing True GFE & PSE ' Some do services that are safe and others do not, such as CBJ VS BBBJ is how I understand this ad.

 

4) 'PSE with Attitude' ( will she spank me too?)

 

5) 'Safe Elite GFE Companionship' ( I think the safe part is the safe to say, and I'm good with safe too ;) )

 

6) 'Wonderfully Open-minded GFE is a true gem' ( when I go on a date with a lady I'm very open minded too :) )

 

7) ' A modern sensual companion' (There is no list of services,there is no menu)

 

8) Off her list of services 'I do not speak greek' but she listed everything else under the sun, and advertises as a GFE provider.

 

9) 'Borderline as a PSE behind closed doors (Does that mean if the door is open the level of service drops off from PSE? LOL just joking folks, when they advertised as such, again it is YMMV.

 

10)'My fees are a reflection of the exceptional service I provide. I genuinely enjoy meeting sophisticated gentlemen whose wish is to indulge in first class companionship'. (She markets herself this way, has no menu!! does not state safe GFE or PSE etc etc, simply has a set rate for time spent with her as she calls it 'room service' I have met her twice and she is exactly like the girl friend experience where there is all types of sexual activities from DFK to BBBJ but again it is YMMV .

 

11) Lastly the ladies that advertise 'packages' they show their rates but not their services.

 

 

So us gents are to a degree mis-lead but in fact what the ladies are saying is or can be true it is all in YMMV to perhaps get that extra mileage in a date.

 

Personally, I think us gentlemen love the chase, and love the question and answer relationship with an SP when communicating for a date through email of here through a pm. I normally can tell, and get a very good vibe from a lady through communication.

 

Happy chasing gents!

[Angeltbay 612]

someone said something about putting your "menu" on your ad. which would be a good idea, but sometimes its easier to ask guys to contact the lady for service info. Whenever someone contacts me i usually ask them what they are looking for instead of rambling off a bunch of abreviations, and possibly missing a few.

 

Additional Comments:

And sugar, reading the beginning of this thread, it kind of makes me wonder why you had to say you offer GFE, when it seemed like you werent too sure what it even was? (sorry if that sounds rude, but it just confused me) But either way i hope all the answers on here helped you out in figuring it out for yourself

[PistolPete 61421]

Menu's are not necessary in my opinion, I always contact through messages if I'm meeting her first, at least I try to do so.

 

In reality you may not allow a guy to do this, or you may not do that to him due to certain hygiene issues with the guy.

 

Therefore through messages here or through emails, you may want to say I do offer this 'but' personal hygiene and YMMV as always.

[Guest ***t***iv***]

someone said something about putting your "menu" on your ad. which would be a good idea, but sometimes its easier to ask guys to contact the lady for service info. Whenever someone contacts me i usually ask them what they are looking for instead of rambling off a bunch of abreviations, and possibly missing a few.

 

Additional Comments:

And sugar, reading the beginning of this thread, it kind of makes me wonder why you had to say you offer GFE, when it seemed like you werent too sure what it even was? (sorry if that sounds rude, but it just confused me) But either way i hope all the answers on here helped you out in figuring it out for yourself

angel- no offense taken. just to clarify, I did not HAVE to say I if offer GFE, I was choosing to and requested peoples opinions to see if there was a common term and/or define it for myself. that is all.

[bigmammaryfan 113]

I think it's sad that there are men like you that think a man would have issues because he looks for trust and real intimacy on a date with an SP, instead of seeking to exchange bodily fluids or risk infection. IMHO, it seems like you are the one with issues if you can only enjoy raw physical unsafe activity and can't imagine a deeper meaningful connection being valued by anyone. That's a closed mind.

 

and BTW, I guess I'm an SP that changes her name to hide her scam lol

thats ridiculously narrow minded- why would it ever be the girls fault that the guy didn't ask what was on the menu before he ordered? If YOU, the client, seek something specific that you will not be satisfied without receiving, why on earth are you booking without knowing if its offered or not?/ so not the girls fault. I don't have a problem answering questions but when most clients are just looking for the basics anyway, why should I waste my breath stating everything I do/do not offer? its my job to provide the escort service to you, its your job to make sure you read what you're about to eat, especially if you have allergies (to.. girls that don't kiss lol). Because I am an SP that, thanks to THIS thread, advertises that the true GFE is offered, though YMMV because I don't kiss or offer unsafe acts, ever. I'm speaking about personal connection, interaction and encounter. not the acts preformed. that part is kind of a given right? (automatically assumed to be included)

 

There is nothing wrong with being safe, at least IMHO. I think everyone has their own desires and expectations, but I do agree - if you don't like what you see on the menu, why even order?

 

Regardless, to each their own. I think I service provider can offer some limitations and still give an excellent experience. I certainly had no complaints.

 

I certainly can vouch for you not being a scam, furthest thing from it.

 

I thinks it's completely fine to do what you want, change the name as you please, since it is after all, your service and business.

 

Just one man's opinion.

[Madison_Sparks 3740]

GFE eh?

 

I've purposely been lurking this thread since it started. I was waiting to see what others would say, and now I think I see where the confusion lies. If I may?

 

terminology seems to be an issue in the sex trade industry because there is no set AGREED terms by both SP's and Hobbiests. In refection of this tread alone is seems that SP's and hobbiest have different meanings to the same abbreviations.

 

The first time someone had asked me if DATY I asked for the meaning, dining at the Y. why don't we all be big girls and boys and use the proper terminology cunnilingus? I know I do now, because we have created this "gray area" of terminology and language that prevents us from clearly communicating with each other in a truthful way.

 

Now don't get me wrong I am not saying that anyone is being purposefully deceiving, just that it appears that the symbolism of the acronyms and expectations of such are too open to interpretation.

 

But thank you for this, when I re-launch my new add and digs I will be sure to make my postings, website, and conversations VERY clear.

 

One last thing...................... SUGAR KANE!!!!!!!............ ty for the comments about safe sex being so important. I am happy when a client asks a skin to mouth contact fellatio act (bbbj, for those stuck on acronyms) and then they don't book because that's not the services I offer; it saves me from telling them that I do not wish to book with them. My health, safety, and FULL happy life is and always has been the most important thing to me and even $20,000 per hour wouldn't make me risk that. Even in my personal life I would never participate un-protected acts until we both at the same time got our STD, HIV test together.

 

So I guess that's the gray area we created.................. I would never have un-safe sex without proof that my partner was clean.......... meanwhile I know that this is not the way that most couples transition into uncovered sex acts.............. so how can we have a CLEAR understanding of what a GFE "should" be?

 

THe people who have booked with me before know that I am a good time. I'll go out for dinner, nice walks, hike you out to a beautiful picnic and make love to you the forest................... or maybe I'll make you beg me to let you please me as I tease you into a sexual frenzy ;)

 

But they also know that a few hours with me won't cost them a lifetime of illness

 

Peace and love

Kizzez

Madison

[samcro 63]

SPs dont have the competition of the big cities

There are more girls down there

Sometimes the difference between getting the booking or not is if you are a true GFE

BBBJ is now becoming the norm in the bigger cities

Don't believe me? Get on a few other review boards.

It is so competitive now that SPs are offering BBFS to get an edge up

Don't believe me

There is a new review board up just for these reviews

PM and I will give you more details

I have nothing against an SP that wants to be safe

Its her decision

But enjoy it while you can

Times are changing

[roamingguy 300292]

BBFS:icon_eek: frankly in this day and age that's scary

So far I've been with ladies much much much smarter than that

Russian roulette with my life and the lady's life isn't my idea of fun

RG

[samcro 63]

RG

 

Do some reading

Its becoming more common today then ever before in bigger cities

More girls are offering it to stay in business

Yes there is a risk in it

There seems to be a lot of guys that like it

No different then picking up some girl at the bar

Guys get a rush out of it.

I can understand

I've been there

 

I hope we get more girls here that offer the true GFE

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

...It is so competitive now that SPs are offering BBFS to get an edge up

Don't believe me

There is a new review board up just for these reviews

PM and I will give you more details

 

I wonder how reliable this new board is and the BBFS reviews are!

On the other boards (Montreal and Toronto based) those types of reviews are NOT permitted as nobody knows for sure if it is true or not and therefore can damage an SP's reputation if untrue.

 

Don't believe everything you read on the internet!

[samcro 63]

Hey Gabby

 

I would say the reviews are accurate

There are some boards that ban these type of reviews

But there are other boards out there that dont

Boards that let the truth out about SPs and aren't just shill reviews