Deposit required!??????

[UPSCAL/MATURE/&NOTBADLOOKS 2]

I noticed a post on "Leolist" that had intrigued me. I wanted to visit this lovely mature lady. 

I contacted her her and she said she required a deposit. She was not verified. I think verification very trustworthy. This site might consider it.

I was not willing to take a chance, not only losing a few bucks, but being possibly embarrassed knocking on a strangers door which is 30 minutes from my home.

I would like to get some feed back on this issue.

 

[Guest onepound]

It’s more than likely a scam . I see some providers require a deposit for outcall, which is understandable,  but I would first visit them at their incall location and if I had a good time and wanted an out call visit I’d be much more comfortable with the deposit . But yes - 99.9% chance it’s a scam, at least in my experiences . 

[OldandNerdy 1303]

Best advice

 

Talk to providers from here that have recommendations. 

 

Talk to providers with a real online presence. 

 

When talking to providers, talk to them like they're human beings.  Do your research first and follow their guidelines. 

 

If you feel uncomfortable about a situation, politely take yourself out of the situation.

 

Yes there are a lot of scams out there in the industry, from both sides of the equation (client &  provider).

 

 

[StephanieMystique 1892]

2 minutes ago, OldandNerdy said:

Best advice

 

Talk to providers from here that have recommendations. 

 

Talk to providers with a real online presence. 

 

When talking to providers, talk to them like they're human beings.  Do your research first and follow their guidelines. 

 

If you feel uncomfortable about a situation, politely take yourself out of the situation.

 

Yes there are a lot of scams out there in the industry, from both sides of the equation (client &  provider).

 

 

Thank you! You have everything right. 

 

DO your research! It'll be the fastest and easiest way to verify the provider. Do they have more links to other profiles, website, Twitter, Lyla, ect? 

I know a few ladies that run a non-verified ad for an extra ad. Or they want to test a new area here without commiting a large amount of money. 

Do a reverse check on the photos. There is a great thread for how to her on Lyla. 

Google the name and phone number, does it come up with the same information or something else? 

 

 

I have made deposits mandatory for new clients as there has been too many time wasters and no shows during covid. It's also added an extra layer of security for myself for knowing who I am seeing. My no show/cancelations have dropped to less than 2% since implementing it. For me it's been worth it. 

If I have someone saying they don't send or scam, I give them lyla.ch for a good start of research and tell them to have a good day. I have done all the work to verify myself for you, active website, Twitter, Snapchat, and presence here on Lyla. You just have to spend 5 mins to 30mins verifying me. Then politely introduce yourself. 

 

Yes, there is scammers out there, but just like we have to research anything else we want, do you research and it will help you 99% of the time. 

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31728]

I now require a deposit to secure my time for both In and Out ... I now do not have to deal with no shows thank God! 

 

What some guys don't seem to understand is that we also have families and other priorities so if we take the time to see you and you do not show up it's frustrating and takes time away from that and possibly a genuine connection with someone else

 

I recommend you do your research on the lady of your choice making sure she is indeed reputable before just randomly sending a deposit

Good luck 😊

[Mikeyboy 27133]

I do see both sides of it.

There are so many "deposit scammers" out there that I can understand why some guys run from deposits as fast as they can. I hear it all the time. On the other side of it though, if it were my business, I'd absolutely consider requiring deposits. Time is their product and if it is wasted, they lose it forever.

Just remember that there is a huge difference between booking an unknown from LL, and booking with an established lady. You don't need to develop hard and fast rules that apply to both situations. The bottom line is that if she has invested years developing a reputation that is her livelihood, then she is not going to risk that over a $50-$100 deposit. Would you risk your career and reputation over 50 bucks? I would not. It just wouldn't make any financial sense. That said, if you can't find any other information on her (verified of not), then I'd move on.

The challenge on our end is being willing to spend a little bit of time doing research to be able to tell the difference. In most cases it is obvious.

[Andee 220524]

I am semi-retired, but when I do post and get a request for an outcall, I do ask for a $50 deposit to cover my travel costs in the event the address provided turns out to be fake.  Years ago, when outcalls were the norm, we would verify a client's address using his name and phone number provided in the white pages.  If he was at a hotel, we required his full name and room number and would call back the hotel to verify he was there. Rarely did clients balk at this request otherwise they would not be accommodated.

 

Presently, due to the fact that landlines have become almost non-existent, it is virtually impossible to verify someone's address.  I have fallen victim to prank calls where the address existed, but no one answered the door, or some unsuspecting person like an elderly lady one time, answered the door.  Or the address was that of a condo or apartment complex that had unit numbers that I was unaware of when I booked the call. And then when I arrived, the person did not answer the phone.  Once bitten, twice shy.

 

When someone does call from a hotel, often they are reluctant to give their real name or don't want to give out the room number  insisting that  I call them back on their cell when I arrive.  That is because there are providers who are willing to take the chance that the call is real and will book this way. There is no way of knowing whether said person is actually at that hotel. I did it once in Burlington to a motel that is literally 5 minutes from my place, and I got pranked.  Never again.

 

Other than my presence on Lyla, I have no website or recent recommendations so it is really up to them if they want to take a chance on me.  If not, I am quite content to stay home and not waste my time driving needlessly to a destination just to find out I have been pranked.  

 

I know other providers who are not verified who also have a similar protocol.  Often we hear stories of how these men have been scammed in the past and that  they are for real and we can trust them. My response to them is, so you want me to trust you, but you aren't willing to trust me for $50?  If I was going to scam you buddy, I'd be asking for the full fee and then I would disappear off the radar.  I have a history and don't want my time wasted anymore than you do.

 

I feel for those who have been scammed, but that is not my problem.

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[Phaedrus 209521]

I'm not averse to providing a deposit, and have done in the past, but I'm only going to do it with someone who has an established presence so I can be reasonably confident that they're legit. TBH for me that isn't a matter of googling the phone number or doing an image search on the pics; it's more about their presence in various places (here, Twitter, etc), recommendations/reviews from clients, whether and how they interact with other providers.

[naughtymjbear 16]

This is a debate that will continue for the foreseeable future. I continually read on twitter that many ladies go through the torment of no-shows or late cancellations. There's time and preparation that goes into each meeting only to have the date cancel is without a doubt frustrating especially if another date was possible. 

It only makes sense in my mind that the lady seek some sort of confirmation that the gentleman will follow through and keep the meeting. Hence, I fully support and have zero concerns about sending a deposit to secure a meeting with a lady that I desire to see.

One can always set up a separate account at another institution is discretion is a concern.

 

[Jenesis 294]

I am still having a hard time with deposit. 

 

1. I have yet to figure out an acceptable way to accept deposits. Banks have detailed info and guys don’t like that I get that. I can do CC via my porn site, but then it is the same with detailed info and that brings me to my second point.

 

2. I have yet to find a way to return a deposit should I have to cancel. My bank gives my real info as well during EMT and I don’t want that. 

 

3. I don’t want to GCs because personally, I prefer cash. And it is so much easier on accounting records. Yes - I pay taxes and keep accounting records. Not to be confused with client records. Now if I have to cancel, I revert back to number 2. How to return a GC? 

 

4. Since I was a teen, deposits have been drilled into my head to be accompanied by a contract. This is just the way my brain works, and I can’t seem to get past that. I don’t know why. 

 

I don’t fault any SP asking for them. I am and have been for a while, thinking about them as I just turn down clients that a deposit would help ease my mind about booking. 

[Jenesis 294]

3 hours ago, clearbluesky15 said:

One option is Bitcoin (or other cryptocurrency) There are fees, and a learning curve, but it’s pretty convenient for those that use it.

I don’t like the variable pricing and many clients don’t  use bitcoin either. But I thank you for the suggestion. You never know, it may have to come down to that. 

[dataghost 1006]

people just need to stop being scummy lying cheats and then deposits will never be required 🙂 honestly i would never do a deposit, id take my business to more reputable providers, i understand why some providers want deposits, just not my cup of tea

[Phaedrus 209521]

On 9/17/2021 at 1:19 AM, dataghost said:

people just need to stop being scummy lying cheats and then deposits will never be required 🙂 honestly i would never do a deposit, id take my business to more reputable providers, i understand why some providers want deposits, just not my cup of tea

Many of the providers that require deposits are very reputable indeed.

[IsabellaDivine 56]

I always require deposits from new clients when booked ahead of time, and I rarely book last minute. I'm not giving my address to a stranger without ID & a deposit, there's just no way. 

[SarahAlexxx 2025]

I require a 50% non-refundable deposit... and if you cancel, a 50% cancellation fee. (So I make 100% of my booking, for people being time wasters... too many of those). 

[East Coast Kimmy 1080]

I’ve recently had some no shows/cancellations locally and while touring. 
(No — I didn’t ask for a deposit in these instances because I usually only get deposits for outcalls) 
Most don’t send a “fee” for cancelling/not showing up even after requested to do so. When this happens what do you do (ladies)? 

 

I have also had a client who no showed on a duo booking offer Amazon Cards to me & the other provider for the compensation. I’ve never done this or used these and wasn’t sure how to accept the card (if possible to do safely) — does anyone know if it is safe to accept them (deposit them onto an Amazon account before someone had an opportunity to personally deposit the card by the code sent). 
 

Thanks in advance for any advice 

[Phaedrus 209521]

Sounds like you got scammed, @JoeShmoe. Sorry to hear about your experience, but I don't think there's much you can do other than learn from it and move on. And yes, if you'd bought a second card I have no doubt they'd have pulled the same scam again. And again, and again, until you stopped.

There's no way I'd give a deposit to anyone unless I was confident they were genuine. For me, that's not just a matter of googling - it's knowing that someone has been around for a while, has a proper website, etc. Also, I think that reputable providers will mostly ask for deposits via Interac to a suitably discreet email. Gift cards as gifts are fine; gift cards as deposits is... definitely dubious.

[Andee 220524]

On 9/16/2021 at 9:19 PM, dataghost said:

people just need to stop being scummy lying cheats and then deposits will never be required 🙂 honestly i would never do a deposit, id take my business to more reputable providers, i understand why some providers want deposits, just not my cup of tea

Most reputable providers I know require deposits, especially touring ladies.

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31728]

I require a small deposit for both outcall and incall and especially when touring to secure my time

 

At least now I do not have to deal with the fake bookings/no shows

 

[Kindbutsexy 1048]

On 9/11/2021 at 7:42 AM, clearbluesky15 said:

On 9/9/2021 at 8:16 PM, Jenesis said:

I don’t like the variable pricing and many clients don’t  use bitcoin either.

Good point. The pricing fluctuations of Bitcoin and most Bitcoin-alternative (altcoins) are annoying for those trying to buy and sell. I’m hoping that settles out at some point. I do like the promise of currency-tied coins like Tether. These altcoins tie to the USD so price is stable. That said they are less common

Is crypto easy and discreet to transfer? E-transfers are not discreet in my situation.

[StephanieMystique 1892]

8 hours ago, Kindbutsexy said:

Is crypto easy and discreet to transfer? E-transfers are not discreet in my situation.

Crypto can be a little complicated to get set up but once you do, it's as easy as putting money I to a Bitcoin ATM, depositing it to your wallet and transferring to the providers bitcoin address. 

 

There is a whole thread for setting up crypto and your wallet from @OldandNerdy

[Kindbutsexy 1048]

Awesome. Very helpful as I don’t have a electronic wallet yet so I’ll look into Electrum.

[Kindbutsexy 1048]

18 hours ago, StephanieMystique said:

Crypto can be a little complicated to get set up but once you do, it's as easy as putting money I to a Bitcoin ATM, depositing it to your wallet and transferring to the providers bitcoin address. 

 

There is a whole thread for setting up crypto and your wallet from @OldandNerdy

Thanks Stephanie. I’ll look for that thread. Good luck with your orgy. You have a great group of ladies partaking 🍆

[Quietfun 20]

8 times out of 10 i am cheated out of a deposit

[SarahAlexxx 2025]

On 2/12/2022 at 1:14 PM, Quietfun said:

8 times out of 10 i am cheated out of a deposit

Then you aren't doing enough research and that's on YOU.