Can you blame a guy for a NoShow when cops are in the parking lot?

[Jenesis 294]

So I had a client show up last night and there are two cop cars in the parking lot. Parked. Not even in front of the lobby. Don't know why but there were a few cops staying here as guest of the hotel. He mentioned it made him nervous and he was going to text and cancel but said fuck it and just came up.

So it had me thinking. There would be some serious anxiety for some guys if they showed up to cop cars in the hotel.

So what is the protocol here? If he doesn't show to the door because he got scared off, is that his fault? It can't really be can it? It can't be her fault, she has no control over cops. You can't get a cancellation fee out of cops either. 

Does this fall into the category of things that suck while escorting and we take it on as part of the job? Ladies, do you blacklist the guy personally?

How does this work?

[Guest]

 Would depend on the circumstances. If I seen normal police cars, I would likely call or text to know if you had "company" or if unrelated.

 But if an unmarked car across the street, this would make me much more nervous and would likely cancel or reschedule.

[Genevieve Marceau 68000]

Cops usually don't park their patrol car in the front the of the place that they are about to bust...

[Jenesis 294]

3 minutes ago, Genevieve Marceau said:

Cops usually don't park their patrol car in the front the of the place that they are about to bust...

I know right!?!? LOL

But I have to admit, I do understand guys getting freaked out by it. Especially newbies. It is a criminal act now for them big time and that could weigh heavy for some. 

 

These cops have been here for days. One car hasn’t even moved. I don’t know why they are here, but one was pretty hot if I am being honest. LOL 

[vegeta85 1675]

This guy may be a shady character and has good reason to avoid cops. He may have done you a favor by cancelling. I wouldn't be scared off if I was in his shoes. 

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, vegeta85 said:

This guy may be a shady character and has good reason to avoid cops. He may have done you a favor by cancelling. I wouldn't be scared off if I was in his shoes. 

  More likely he was inexperienced, unsure about the law and preferred not taking chances.

[NotchJohnson 214132]

If she is a reputable lady that advertise on here and has recommendations I would not worry about it.  But if this is a new lady that just started posting of a general website (ex. LL) and has no review/reco I would be worried.

[Mikeyboy 27134]

I'm not sure the question of who is at fault is relevant.

I certainly understand why gents would get skittish in this situation given the fact that it is them who is breaking the law under our current model. There is a lot at stake for them. I wouldn't blame them for turning around.

That said, the polite thing to do is to still offer some compensation for her lost time. It isn't her fault either and the time is still gone regardless of what justification or who is to blame. 

[NotchJohnson 214132]

I think that both parties cane come up with a solution.  What if the lady was to meet the gentleman outside in the parking lot and they could both walk in at the same time in the room as if they were a couple?  Who would consider this anything else then a common couple enjoying each other company?

Maybe it's just me but I hope I'm never put in a situation like that.

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, NotchJohnson said:

I think that both parties cane come up with a solution.  What if the lady was to meet the gentleman outside in the parking lot and they could both walk in at the same time in the room as if they were a couple?  Who would consider this anything else then a common couple enjoying each other company?

Maybe it's just me but I hope I'm never put in a situation like that.

      For that option, would need to be sure she's not known by local law enforcement. Even if keep herself out of trouble, local cops tend to recognize faces.

       I would prefer showing up with coffees instead of more theatrical options.

[OldandNerdy 1304]

I voted no in the poll.  As mentioned in other comments the client faces quite a result if they are charged in this case.

 

That being said, the no is contingent on maintaining communication with the provider, and also contingent on the previous relationship that has been established between provider and client.  

 

If this was a new visit/experience the level of "nope I'm outta here" would be higher than if the client and provider have seen each other multiple times. 

[Phaedrus 209521]

Yes, the no-show is still on the client. It would be on the client even if they had a good excuse, and I don't think this is one.

I get that cops can make some folks nervous, but they can show up anywhere and that's something you have to factor in whenever you decide to leave the house. One of the things you have to realize in this world is that really, nobody else knows your business. You are not walking around with a flashing red light over your head and a big sign that says, "THIS GUYS IS GOING TO SEE AN ESCORT!!!". Unless you do something drastically stupid, nobody is going to know anything... including cops.

I'm aware while writing this that I'm a white guy, so I'm not going to get the same attention that folks with more melanin than me might, but I still don't think it's a good reason to no-show.

I suppose it might be OK to cancel if you had reason to believe the cops were explicitly looking for you, but if that's the case then you've probably got bigger problems than your pending appointment in the hotel...

This does remind me of someone I saw who asked people to go to a particular hotel parking lot that was near her incall and call her from there for final directions. Thing is, that hotel was just over the road from the local police station... apparently she had some people who got there and decided to cancel.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Phaedrus said:

One of the things you have to realize in this world is that really, nobody else knows your business. You are not walking around with a flashing red light over your head and a big sign that says, "THIS GUYS IS GOING TO SEE AN ESCORT!!!". Unless you do something drastically stupid, nobody is going to know anything... including cops.

    As some already mentioned, there many different possibilities and factors influencing our decisions. If a well known indy can confirm the cops are there for something completely unrelated, most would be comfortable enough to ignore them.

    But when meeting an unknown likely related to an agency, this is where hitting the road might be the wisest decision. In Quebec city, seen busts with agencies renting multiple rooms at the same hotel/motel for business. It only take one complaint to create a domino effect.

    Facing the unknown, better go for the safest option.

[Guest]

On 9/22/2021 at 8:54 AM, Jenesis said:

So I had a client show up last night and there are two cop cars in the parking lot. Parked. Not even in front of the lobby. Don't know why but there were a few cops staying here as guest of the hotel. He mentioned it made him nervous and he was going to text and cancel but said fuck it and just came up.

So it had me thinking. There would be some serious anxiety for some guys if they showed up to cop cars in the hotel.

So what is the protocol here? If he doesn't show to the door because he got scared off, is that his fault? It can't really be can it? It can't be her fault, she has no control over cops. You can't get a cancellation fee out of cops either. 

Does this fall into the category of things that suck while escorting and we take it on as part of the job? Ladies, do you blacklist the guy personally?

How does this work?

I’ve had this happen and it’s totally on the guy. I typically have a drive up room when. Touring for easy entrance and discretion. Typically unless you’re extremely high traffic or someone reports you the cops are almost never there for you. In fact if ever. I’ve been working hotels for 5+ years now and have never ever had a police officer approach me or a client. As we all say walk in like you know where you’re going. Even if you’re afraid police cannot stop you and legally you don’t have to talk to them or answer any questions. 

[fresh 8278]

9 hours ago, Greenteal said:

    As some already mentioned, there many different possibilities and factors influencing our decisions. If a well known indy can confirm the cops are there for something completely unrelated, most would be comfortable enough to ignore them.

    But when meeting an unknown likely related to an agency, this is where hitting the road might be the wisest decision. In Quebec city, seen busts with agencies renting multiple rooms at the same hotel/motel for business. It only take one complaint to create a domino effect.

    Facing the unknown, better go for the safest option.

Those multiple girls at a hotel is a terrible attractant of attention

any Astute observer is going to pick up on what’s going on and complaints are more than likely

and complaints get cops out of the coffee shops and giving tickets to people with missing tail lights and into action

much better to see Individual working companions 

 

[Guest]

58 minutes ago, fresh said:

Those multiple girls at a hotel is a terrible attractant of attention

any Astute observer is going to pick up on what’s going on and complaints are more than likely

and complaints get cops out of the coffee shops and giving tickets to people with missing tail lights and into action

much better to see Individual working companions 

   Most people wouldn't really notice. But once a room is exposed and minimal detective work reveals others on the same name, this is where the cavalry shows up.

[NotchJohnson 214132]

Don't you all think that if cops were there to arrest anyone coming in to see the lady or arrest anyone visiting the motel/hotel that they would use "undercover cars" and clothing?  You could meet them in the hallway even if they are in the room next to the lady and they wouldn't suspect anything unless you draw attention to yourself.

 

[Guest]

On 9/22/2021 at 9:57 AM, Genevieve Marceau said:

Cops usually don't park their patrol car in the front the of the place that they are about to bust...

THIS!! I also wanted to mention for either SP/or clients usually it will be a “sting” 

 

SP- vice will call you for a outcall typically; they will let you go but usually want some info ( name address, wether you’re indie or not ) they claim it’s to keep us safe. You may also get ticketed for not having a license if you’re in a certain province. They almost always want to help you exit wether you need to or not. This is coming from experience and literally watching it happen to other SP’s I’ve worked with out in Alberta. 
 

Clients - the likely hood of you being arrested on arrival is very slim. It’s typically the same set up. Fake ad with a bunch of cops sitting at the incall ( hotel ) or other specified location. This one is tricky for sure I would ensure that it’s really a SP by asking for onlyfans link ( almost every one has one ) Twitter or Instagram. If a ad seems too good to be true it likely is. And if you get a phone call that’s obviously asking incriminating questions I wouldn’t attend that call. 
 

good luck and stay safe friends remember this is why screening is PARAMOUNT mostly to clients because we will be let go 🙂 

[ManofFewWords 1471]

I have had it happen twice to me that when I arrived at the incall location there were police cars in the lot. Both times it was at the same hotel, known to be provider friendly and typically a no issue visit.

First time i pull in the parking  lot 10 min before the scheduled time and there are 3 cruisers out front of the main entrance. I park over by a side entrance I usually use and where I can see the front entrance. Naturally I'm wondering wtf is going on and a little nervous. As I'm sitting there another cop car pulls in and one leaves. Time comes to text for the room number and I get no response. This is not my first time seeing this lady and out of character for her not to respond right away when expecting me. Waited 10 min and sent another text. No response. Finally a third text saying I was leaving, mentioned the cops and told her I hope all is well. Couple days later I hear from her and was informed there was a problem with a client that escalated to the point police were involved. I expressed my regret it happened and that I was glad she was Ok.

Second time was with a different lady, but at the same hotel. This time she texted me and gave me the heads up that there were two police cars in the lot, and that all was good, so I wouldn't get concerned. Showed up, acted like I owned the place and had a wonderful time.

The circumstances will dictate whether you should stay or go, but communication (or lack of) should point you in the direction of the right decision. As others have said, they don't park marked cars in front of a sting, and they have no idea who you are. Communicate and don't let anxiety about the fuzz keep you from having a good time.

 

[Guest]

First, if for any reason the client can't show, they should totally text to say so.

 

I voted no for 1 reason: i trust my gut. There have bern 2 instances when I got to the address and was not comfortable with "things" so I left  and I don't feel bad about either instance.

[Jenesis 294]

This turned into such a great discussion so far! Thanks! 

[Guest]

On 9/24/2021 at 5:31 PM, clearbluesky15 said:

Thanks Daysha, great advice / detail. I wonder if any on this thread have a sense of how often SP or client stings happen.

There’s no say on how often the stings happen. Although I’m kind of surprised it doesn’t happen more often in Halifax given it has the highest rate of human trafficking recorded in Canada ( double yikes ) 

 

when living in Calgary it was a regular thing 

as well as Vancouver. 
 

generally would happen when the police see a influx of new workers or possible underage girls being forced to work 🙂 

 

 

[Guest]

Just now, Daysha Love said:

There’s no say on how often the stings happen. Although I’m kind of surprised it doesn’t happen more often in Halifax given it has the highest rate of human trafficking recorded in Canada ( double yikes ) 

 

when living in Calgary it was a regular thing 

as well as Vancouver. 
 

generally would happen when the police see a influx of new workers or possible underage girls being forced to work 🙂 

 

 

If anyone is interested in this stat here is a link. 
 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6068511

[Allie Zeon 2925]

Happen to me few times. Comforting them.  Tell them to wait if they feel uncomfortable.  Since most clients send deposit I video call them to prove that I'm alone in my room and ready.  It works big time once I video time my clients with my sexy outfit 😉

[Ghost88 5]

If a guy is going to cancel for any reason, he should at least have the courtesy to text and let the SP know what's up.  Maybe you can reassure him, maybe you can't.  I would say there are far worse reasons to cancel.  But the courtesy of letting the SP know is the important thing.  Ghosting is just rude and disrespectful.