Update: Private SP Area

[Guest lydiahardwood]

Hi everyone,

I want to address the elephant in the room regarding the post from the private SP area that was made public on the main board.

 

SPs aren’t permitted to post full IDs in that area
Your confidentiality is important to us. This rule wasn't clear before, but it has now been addressed and no full IDs will be allowed to be posted. This has been communicated. The area was designed so that Providers can keep each other safe and notify each other of any bad experiences they had. Like with recommendations, Providers are only permitted to include a few digits of a phone number or an email address.

 

There is no misandry there
In the same way we do not allow toxic discussion of Providers’ attractiveness/personality etc. in recommendations, we also do not allow this when it comes to discussing Clients. The area is there for safety, not for bullying.

 

Anyone who posts information from this private area will get an instant ban
A huge priority for Lyla is keeping Companions safe. Although posting a full ID card was wrong, posting it on the main board causes dangerous situations for SPs; clients may be less willing to screen and some of our community now don’t feel safe posting dangerous situations there. 

 

We have Moderators who work around the clock
The post in question was removed almost instantaneously. We have many Moderators working 24 hours a day to keep Lyla safe - here is a thread showing all of the active Mods. If you see something here that shouldn’t be, please report it. DMing me or other Mods is fine, but it is not the quickest way to get a solution. 

 

Thank you for your patience and understanding with this matter. As always, my DMs are open for your feedback.
 

[Guest]

  Thank you for clarifying this.

That being said. I got concerns.

2 hours ago, lydiahardwood said:

The post in question was removed almost instantaneously.

   This is the internet. Doesn't matter if seconds, minutes, hours or days, once something is posted, the damage is permanently done. Being a closed forum doesn't make it more secure. Mostly considering the minimalistic conditions to access it.

   While I agree punishment for sharing information between forums should be severe, this should also apply to the person who posted the sensitive information in the first place. Mostly when a member for years and should know better. One would be naïve to think this is the first time private information is openly shared for trivial reasons. It's sad to see someone sacrifice her membership in order to address this.

    And obviously there's the victim who's no longer a member of this board and currently dealing with the aftermath. I don't personally know him. But most appreciated the several recommendations a month he posted in his short time here. Whatever quirk(s) he had, I highly doubt he deserved what happened to him.

   The incident and slow response definitely affected the reputation of this board. A single person ripped off the veneer of positivity, safety and privacy of this website, but still allowed to be an active member. I doubt I'm the only one disappointed with this. 

   This is not the first time I express frustration with the direction of this website. In my opinion, some lines were permanently crossed. For the time being, I'll take a break. If permanent or not will depend on what happen next.

    Thank you.

    GT

 

[Guest lydiahardwood]

18 hours ago, Greenteal said:

While I agree punishment for sharing information between forums should be severe, this should also apply to the person who posted the sensitive information in the first place. Mostly when a member for years and should know better. 

Hey GT. I hear you, but please rest assured this has been dealt with in private. I take partial responsibility for not making this rule more clear in the SP area. Now that this rule is crystal clear, punishments for breaking it will be more hefty.

18 hours ago, Greenteal said:

And obviously there's the victim who's no longer a member of this board and currently dealing with the aftermath. I don't personally know him. But most appreciated the several recommendations a month he posted in his short time here. Whatever quirk(s) he had, I highly doubt he deserved what happened to him.

This user requested that his account was removed. There is only so much we can do in this regard and have taken all the measures that we believe appropriate. 

18 hours ago, Greenteal said:

The incident and slow response definitely affected the reputation of this board. A single person ripped off the veneer of positivity, safety and privacy of this website, but still allowed to be an active member. I doubt I'm the only one disappointed with this. 

 

The slow response was due to me collating a lot of information and thinking about the best plan of action. There is a lot of content around this entire situation that is not public. I had to take all of this into consideration, as well as converse with other Mods on what we should do. As it's a unique and complicated matter, I would rather have waited a couple of weeks to have an answer I am confident in than rush and make things worse. Regarding the user in question - I have not received complaints from other users - if anyone has an issue with this outcome I urge them to message me or one of the other Mods.

 

Thank you.

[Guest]

 

4 hours ago, lydiahardwood said:

Hey GT. I hear you, but please rest assured this has been dealt with in private. I take partial responsibility for not making this rule more clear in the SP area. Now that this rule is crystal clear, punishments for breaking it will be more hefty.

This user requested that his account was removed. There is only so much we can do in this regard and have taken all the measures that we believe appropriate. 

   I don't think we need clearer rules to understand how illegal, dangerous and irresponsible doxing someone is! The consequences are not only devastating for the user involved, but also for all providers relying on strict screening process for their own safety.

   The decision to remove his account shouldn't be a surprise. He used LYLA as a safe gateway into the hobby, in a short period contributed generously and a recommended verified member published his private information. To make matters worst, the person responsible never apologized nor shown signs of remorse and still has the audacity to ask for copies of photo ID after what happened.

6 hours ago, lydiahardwood said:

Regarding the user in question - I have not received complaints from other users - if anyone has an issue with this outcome I urge them to message me or one of the other Mods.

  This is the real "elephant in the room". Many providers use LYLA as their main advertisement and communication tool. For that reason, too many won't publicly or privately discuss controversial topics in fear of being labeled and harassed. This is not new. I try my best to give a voice to those who can't afford to lose their membership, but I also got my limits.

  "Shooting the messenger" is never a great image. Mostly when little is done to address the mentioned problem. This was a perfect opportunity to send a clear message in regard to the safe management of private information. You and other mods/admins decided differently and it's fine. I'm just a guy with a keyboard and opinion. For me this was too little, too late.

   I'm not gonna tell anyone how to manage their lives, money and private information. I made my fair share of expensive mistakes and learned from all of them. Hopefully, others will do the same.

[Guest]

    If we're gonna "rip off the band aid" on certain subject matter, let's talk about members conduct on other message boards. Was not something I really wanted to discuss, but this need to be adressed. 

   Different platforms, different purposes and different rules. While admins can't moderate what being posted elsewhere, if an easily identifiable member post damaging information (doxing, character assasination), their LYLA membership may be reconsidered.

   That being said, if someone post valid warnings based on facts and true concerns, should we ban that person anyway?

   For years, LYLA tolerated "warnings" about minor discrepancies in descriptions or the use of stock pictures. And for the vast majority, were little to no impact on the safety and experience. And now some are banned for posting elsewhere about valid concerns.

   Without discussing specific cases, it's maybe time to clarify the matter. May look obvious on the surface, but can also be interpreted as questionable previleges and serious overreach.

[2022recherche 0]

I will go with what you say and sometimes the admin of this website are hard to reach for answers and clarifications. 
I agree that people have to be respectful with what they write on this site.

[JAYMIEMAESPARX 3075]

Hey all, I know I’m just a small player in this big world of chaos! But I have something to say, as escorts, what do we offer if not privacy and discretion. If someone isn’t respecting our clients private lives that looks bad on all of us. I’ve NEVER had an issue getting deposits and in the last week twice I’ve been told by Lyla members trying to book they cannot send a deposit with their name due to what happened on this site and the lack of consequence. 
 

I would never make a client ID public unless something had happened that warranted me going to the police. Time wasting happens. And it’s not an excuse to put someone. Escorts and clients together place immense trust in one another. 
 

I am not a member of the SP only side so I never saw any of this myself, but it sucks that clients are being scared away from other girls screening because of one person being allowed to disrespect the entire premise of our industry. 
 

that’s all I have to say. 
hope everyone has a beautiful and amazing rest of the week!!  

[JAYMIEMAESPARX 3075]

***out someone! Sorry friends