What’s up with clients & screening?

[Candy Baby 41]

This has definitely been posted before but I wanted to address it again.

Many clients get so standoff-ish and totally flip a switch when you ask them to screen- even when it’s in your ad. I don’t think they read the whole ad to be honest and that’s fine, but are Ottawa men not used to being screened? I think it’s so insane not to screen.

Here’s my process, I ask them if they’ve seen my ad, to which 99% say yes. If they say no, I send it to them. Then we talk rates and dates/ times. Then, to lock it in, I ask for my screening criteria. The shock I get is nothing far from funny and frustrating. I go down a level to a less ‘intrusive’ form of screening, they’re still rattled. Some suggest a FaceTime session to get to know each other first. I don’t know about you but to me- that’s not screening. I still don’t know who you are, if you’re a safe, if you are who you say you are, you could be putting on a front and I could end up in a million little pieces later that night. 
I don’t know about anyone else but screening is mandatory for me. 
Has anyone else in Ottawa had this issue to this extent? How do you go about it besides just saying ‘byeee’ next? I have my script about how us sw have to be safe blah blah blah but that’s just not cutting it

Love,

Candy

[jg24 3708]

By your ad you are doing outcall only it should be a given that screening will be done there shouldn't be no discussion on this 

[Candy Baby 41]

6 hours ago, jg24 said:

By your ad you are doing outcall only it should be a given that screening will be done there shouldn't be no discussion on this 

Thank you 😊

[Guest]

 I agree clients shouldn't contact providers with screening requirements, if they don't intend to comply.

 That being said, the topic of screening will remain a problem until current laws are updated to allow legal purchase of adult services. Many struggle to recognize legit providers and the basic understanding of what's legal or not. So the concept of sharing private information will remain a serious concern for many.

  It's not just about the legitimacy of a provider, but also how the information is managed. And for those who use the argument "risks are the same with online shopping", the big difference is the cooperation of financial institutions and law enforcement. Much harder to explain them you were trying to get a "massage" from an unregistered business.

[JohnnyJohn 0]

Depends on what your screening process is.

If you require a reference from another provider I will just move on now. Tried it once she claimed you can use her as a reference and even talked to her about it. She only ask that I ask her first before using her. After seeing her for a couple of sessions I texted her with who I was planning on seeing and if it was ok to use her as a reference. Never heard from her again. So I'm afraid of asking anyone to be a reference anymore.

If you required some form of ID I have no problem with that. I never have been asked for ID yet but it one of the first things I do if I see someone who's incall is there personal residence. I can image what it's like invite a stranger in your house so I offer to show my drivers licence to help put them at ease.

As for the men in Ottawa that's another story. Apparently we are famous with the out of town SP's and in the last few months you are seeing more and more local SP's changing the way the do business.

[Phaedrus 209521]

On 5/23/2022 at 4:49 AM, Candy Baby said:

Here’s my process, I ask them if they’ve seen my ad, to which 99% say yes. If they say no, I send it to them. Then we talk rates and dates/ times. Then, to lock it in, I ask for my screening criteria. The shock I get is nothing far from funny and frustrating. I go down a level to a less ‘intrusive’ form of screening, they’re still rattled. Some suggest a FaceTime session to get to know each other first. I don’t know about you but to me- that’s not screening. I still don’t know who you are, if you’re a safe, if you are who you say you are, you could be putting on a front and I could end up in a million little pieces later that night.

One thing I notice is that your ad mentions screening, but doesn't say what that screening is. A reference? Two? ID verification? Something else?

I'm fine with screening, but I like to know what I'm getting into before I contact someone. And I don't like surprises during the booking process, because going through most of it and then backing out is a waste of everyone's time.

[verticalsmile 300]

The thing with screening is that it is I think a catch 22.  Most screening at this point in time comes from the service provider where she/he may ask to provide references and id checks.  There in lies two problems.  Not all service providers are comfortable being used as references in this industry; it all depends on their comfort level.  Also like one the previous posts, what if SP used as reference flakes, ghosts or even blocks your number as they are uncomfortable knowing you are using another SP.   The more SP's seen the more health risks are possible to each SP involved.  Sometimes in this case, ignorance is bliss.  That and what happens if the SP requesting the references are unhappy with the references as they don't know/trust/etc. the SP's referenced.  Then what? Ask for more references?  It's not like hobbyists keep a big list of references.  Also SP contact information is very unreliable.  SP's change their numbers all the time for all sorts of reasons.  Then the second problem here is providing ID.  Some people are in the hobby being completely anonymous.  Providing valid ID immediately stops that.  It is the same reason SP's almost never use their actual names for the services they are  providing.  If SP's don't need to provide valid ID, then why should the client.

And there in lies the rub.   What if the client wants the exact same screening level as the SP.   Will the SP be willing to do that as well (i.e. providing valid ID, references). 

There is inherent risks involved from both sides of the hobbyist/SP relationship.  The hobbyist looks at an ad and tries to pic a SP that they think will be a good possibility, someone that won't scam them of money they worked hard for and they can have a good service delivered.  But every hobbyist knows and most likely has experienced being scammed by the SP.  Stories of threats from friends, surprise pimps, boyfriends, and cops, forcing the hobbyist out after the SP has taken the money without any service is rampant; in some cases, the stories are so bad, that the hobbyist is happy losing the money cause they got out with losing their life. These types of encounters happen all the time because all the hobbyist has to make the decision is a simple ad; there is no confirmation of character before actually meeting for the first time.

So okay, the hobbyist agrees and gives you the references and ID's to your satisfaction.  What if the hobbyist says okay can you provide all the information I gave you for screening questions?  Would you be willing to provide references from fellow SP's? What if the hobbyist has never heard of or even seen the SP's you have referenced? Would you provide others? Would you be willing to show your client your valid ID?

Safety and healthiness is always going to be an issue in the SP/hobbyist relationship.  In an ideal world, everyone would be 100% truthful and sincere.  But everyone knows that is not going to happen.  It all starts at the level of the name.  SP's will make a name they can use that is different from their birth certificate names to keep what they do anonymous from their loved ones and families.  Likewise the hobbyist, will likely be doing the same thing.   Character judgement, is a  two way street;  as I said, all the hobbyist has to select an SP is the ad that the SP puts out.  If the hobbyist provides an equivalent, is that sufficient for the SP as screening (most likely not).   I don't know if there is a solution for this situation that is acceptable to both parties involved..  Looking forward to see what other think.

[Droc 103]

Well said @verticalsmile 👏.