Emma Alexandra 123367 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 Due to a recent date paying in counterfeit money i will no longer be accepting old money... meaning if you are paying me in 100 dollar bills they must be new. This weekend i received 5 old bills from 1988...these bills are harder to detect then the new ones for some reason. I went to pay for something and the lady checked the bills and 3 were refused...she trusted me thank God and told me to take them to the bank across the street..TD was the only one open on Saturday. They couldn't say one way or the other if they were counterfeit..{i know weird for a bank}. They are now in the mail to the Bank of Canada. I have the guys info for them as well if in fact they are fake. Just putting it out there that I am not afraid to tell the police about where i received them and how. I guess dude thought i was just some dumb chick he could pawn them off on...I gave him a chance to replace the monies but he only got nasty with me texting that he didn't give a fuck...that they are real and got them out of an ATM machine...ya whatever..lol...no way did he..especially old 100 dollar bills....anyway this is a warning for the ladies and the gents that these are out there and being passed around. Be careful and get yourself fimilar with how to detect counterfeit money. I'm getting the pen and whatever else i need. kisses, Emma 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 Sorry to hear this, Emma! That must be so frustrating :( I hope you will post his information in the bad date section. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S**a*Q Report post Posted August 1, 2011 If you rub a bill on a sheet of white paper, the ink should come off a real bill and leave a mark. Like a fifty would leave a faint pink smudge. The ink or pigments never "dry" on real money. Money's changing again though to the Polymer notes. They have a bunch more security features and the bills last longer, but here's the bank of Canada website with news about that. http://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknotes/bank-note-series/polymer/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123367 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 I was going to post that as well..so here the other link for counterfeit money. http://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknotes/counterfeit-prevention/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatsup 11893 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 Emma, sorry to hear about this. I did not know ATMs gave $100 bills, $50 bills yes. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 I was almost ready to give the guy benefit of the doubt, maybe he got the bills inadvertently and believed that they were legal tender...was almost ready to give benefit of the doubt, until he texted you saying he didn't give a fuck. The client IMHO is responsible for paying the donation, and even if he gives counterfeit money (by mistake), he is IMHO responsible to make it right Sorry this happened to you Emma RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123367 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 Sorry to hear this' date=' Emma! That must be so frustrating :( I hope you will post his information in the bad date section.[/quote'] its there..:icon_wink: Additional Comments: I was almost ready to give the guy benefit of the doubt, maybe he got the bills inadvertently and believed that they were legal tender...was almost ready to give benefit of the doubt, until he texted you saying he didn't give a fuck.The client IMHO is responsible for paying the donation, and even if he gives counterfeit money (by mistake), he is IMHO responsible to make it right Sorry this happened to you Emma RG I even said that to him..that maybe someone gave them to him...that it wasn't his fault but he insisted they were real and made from his sweat.{i bet they were}..then saying he didn't give a fuck...anyway i saved his text messages for the police to see. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qwertyaccount 15793 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 I was almost ready to give the guy benefit of the doubt, maybe he got the bills inadvertently and believed that they were legal tender...was almost ready to give benefit of the doubt, until he texted you saying he didn't give a fuck.The client IMHO is responsible for paying the donation, and even if he gives counterfeit money (by mistake), he is IMHO responsible to make it right Sorry this happened to you Emma RG I was thinking the exact same thing. Thankfully most people are honest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 its there..:icon_wink: Additional Comments: I even said that to him..that maybe someone gave them to him...that it wasn't his fault but he insisted they were real and made from his sweat.{i bet they were}..then saying he didn't give a fuck...anyway i saved his text messages for the police to see. I don't use my credit card to pay when seeing ladies, for me it's pay as I go...but if this situation happened, I'd be going to the bank ASAP, get a credit card cash advance and make it right RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipualipua 4704 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 "I don't give a fuck?" Really? How can people be so callous! I hope this scum is treated likewise a millionfold. Emma, don't brood over this lowlife for not only are most people honest (as qwerty has written above) but also decent in the way they treat their fellow human beings. Cheer up, Emma. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomer 33202 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 This may not be what you want to hear, but, why did you even try to let him make up for them. If he did then I would assume he'd want some proof and that would probably mean giving the counterfeits back, and then he might pass them on to some other unsuspecting mark. You don't get these from the bank, so he probably knew full well what he was doing. You'd be passing the problem onto someone else. It's great that you've followed through and his information is with the authorities. I am sure you're a very smart woman, but in this business you get fucked now and then. Lesson learned. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 This may not be what you want to hear, but, why did you even try to let him make up for them. If a client does not pay us for services rendered, as per our agreement, we are well within our right to ask them to make it up to us. If he did then I would assume he'd want some proof and that would probably mean giving the counterfeits back, and then he might pass them on to some other unsuspecting mark. You don't get these from the bank, so he probably knew full well what he was doing. You'd be passing the problem onto someone else. If this individual chooses to deceive/rob someone else, those are his actions and he needs to take responsibility for that. Emma is not responsible for his behaviour and his actions. I think she absolutely did the right thing by demanding he make it up to her, and reporting him. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 This may not be what you want to hear, but, why did you even try to let him make up for them. If he did then I would assume he'd want some proof and that would probably mean giving the counterfeits back, and then he might pass them on to some other unsuspecting mark. You don't get these from the bank, so he probably knew full well what he was doing. You'd be passing the problem onto someone else. It's great that you've followed through and his information is with the authorities. I am sure you're a very smart woman, but in this business you get fucked now and then. Lesson learned. A honest client would want them back, not to pass them on, but so he could legally get recourse by going to the source that gave the money to him or going to the authorities. In this case it shouldn't have been up to Emma to forward on the bills. The client is responsible for the donation, and the donation comes in legal tender. And yes, he probably didn't get them from a bank, but a person could unwittingly get money from stores, gas stations etc etc etc, believing full well it is legal tender I'm assuming in this case, in all probability, he knew what he was doing given his reply to Emma But I don't assume that if a similar such case happened with a honest client the client would know if he had legal tender or not. And as said before, an honest client would want to make it right Some thoughts RG 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomer 33202 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 In response to Megan's and Elizabeths response, I made no comment that she was responsible for his rip off, and that she shouldn't be compensated. This is an industry that works in the shadows, cash because it doesn't leave a trail. In practical terms Emma is left in a no win situation. Probably can't go to the police and try and have him charged for fraud (many reasons, possibly an incall), or small claims court ( no receipts). I just think it's wishful thinking that such a client would come thru under these conditions. If he's a regular client or a CERB member :icon_exclaim: she might have a chance to recover, good clients would take their responsibility seriously under these unusual conditions. I just hope that he wouldn't have the opportunity to continue circulation the bills. I really feel very sympathetic to Emmas plight, but unfortunately the tread should be viewed as a warning, and a chance to have a discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123367 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 In response to Megan's and Elizabeths response, I made no comment that she was responsible for his rip off, and that she shouldn't be compensated. This is an industry that works in the shadows, cash because it doesn't leave a trail. In practical terms Emma is left in a no win situation. Probably can't go to the police and try and have him charged for fraud (many reasons, possibly an incall), or small claims court ( no receipts). I just think it's wishful thinking that such a client would come thru under these conditions. If he's a regular client or a CERB member :icon_exclaim: she might have a chance to recover, good clients would take their responsibility seriously under these unusual conditions. I just hope that he wouldn't have the opportunity to continue circulation the bills. I really feel very sympathetic to Emmas plight, but unfortunately the tread should be viewed as a warning, and a chance to have a discussion. It was a legal appointment at his hotel...i have met with this gent several times before thus i trusted him and gave him the chance to make it right. I reported it in the SP section and sent the money off to the Bank of Canada with the information to how i obtained it. I Could have went directly to the police but but i choose not to...as of yet. Now it will be between The Bank Of Canada,myself and the Police if indeed it is counterfeit. My reason for the post is to make others aware of the situation and to for everyone to check their money when receiving it. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and the chance to make it right..he refused...so he looses. I may be out 500 dollars but i may have stopped this from happening to someone else...kisses 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geo007 203 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 You acted well Emma. It's kind of weird that he would do that , him being a regular client and all. You never know I guess who you are really dealing with. Hope it all works out somehow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 I could be wrong, but I thought banks DO NOT use old currency at ATM's anymore. Furthermore, where I bank and if I withdrew from the ATM a sum of 300.00 or 400.00 in fact 500.00 it is given to me in denominations of 50's and twenties I never had a ATM spit out 100's. If you go to a teller she will ask, what denominations you would like. I find his story full of shit, and he confirmed that by his comment to you Emma. He is a douche bag! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 PistolPete - During my two years of dancing, I saw one old twenty come out of the machine at Nu Den. Because it came directly from the machine, I accepted it. I also had no problem depositing it in the bank. It was kind of like finding the prize in the cereal box LOL. It was neat to see because I had not seen such a bill since I was a young child. Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy kenny 50799 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 Emma thanks for sharing this story. It's too bad this client has betrayed your trust like this. He clearly lying, as others have pointed out there are two flaws to his lame ass excuse. ATM's use current currency, while some times older notes slip through one machine is not going to spit out 3 old 100 dollar bills, just not possible. While were on the subject of 100 dollar bills, ATMs don't distribute 100's for the very reason that they are not viable currency for most day to day transactions as most business won't accept anything over a 50. Banks are responsible to exchange older notes for new notes to lessen the chance of counterfeit notes being passed around. Good for you for reporting this dude, clearly he has no respect for you so why should you bother looking out for him. As he will soon find out Karma is a bitch! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 PistolPete - During my two years of dancing' date=' I saw one old twenty come out of the machine at Nu Den. Because it came directly from the machine, I accepted it. I also had no problem depositing it in the bank. It was kind of like finding the prize in the cereal box LOL. It was neat to see because I had not seen such a bill since I was a young child.Posted via Mobile Device You are correct I should of said the 100 dollar bills are not spit out of ATM's, yes old twenties and 50's can be spit out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrrnice2 157005 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 Our bank machines only give $20's, so for a date, especially an extended date that would make a rather large envelope to be carrying around. So, I go to a bank and get $100's but now after reading this I will always wonder if she will be wondering about their value as legal tender. Another reason that I really do prefer electronic funds transfer prior to the date. Alleviates more than one awkward moment for me. Sorry to have heard that story Emma. Give em hell. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qwertyaccount 15793 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 Many stores and even some banks have an unwritten policy about counterfeit bills. If a clerk finds any, they are to try and give them to another customer. Sad but true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrrnice2 157005 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 Many stores and even some banks have an unwritten policy about counterfeit bills. If a clerk finds any, they are to try and give them to another customer. Sad but true. Say it ain't so! Banks??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake_1957 1301 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 The only place I've ever seen $100 bills from a ATM was at a casino. Plus they were all brand new bills. He was definitely classless with his response, can't believe a regular client would treat you like that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shymale 10234 Report post Posted August 1, 2011 i'm really sorry to hear this Emma. plus the guy email you he doesn't give a fuck is totally wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
