NewGuy_411 8 Report post Posted February 8 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Fantasyvibes said: DEI is the reason everyone has a fair chance. Look at his cabinet and tell me they're all qualified. The people he wants to have a fair chance are white. And by fair, he means disproportionate. Dei makes everyone unqualified and reduces unqualified nepotism. You honestly need to think critically about your life and views if you genuinely view dei as a negative I beleive anyone like yourself who believes Dei is the solution lost all intelligence LONG ago. Dei has done more harm then good. I beleive that it's core initiative is a good idea. How ever the single fat of the .after is that it goes too far in many cases and pushes the pendulum from one extreme to the next.. And that's on you if you can't understand or see that. That is YOUR lack of critical thinking and intelligence when you are blinded by a one sided agenda. I could personally care less about Trump or his cabinet as I am not an Americain. I beleive his first term shiwed the world he was not a good president as well as not fot for office But frankly , I know he has a female chief of staff, a minority for the Director of F.B.I . A female for the Secretary of the Tressuray as well as a female for the National Interchange. I do not beleive that ANY of us are i the least bit qualified to judge weather or not they are capable of doing those jobs. Especially at this piont until they have been in there in the positions for a while. i lost ALL faith is Dei's objectives when right here in N.S my best freinds wife was told at a large company that they woild not hire her because she was a white female and not a manority. Because theu only hire minoritys. Whichnis ilegal to discriminate against ANYONE. No matyer the race. That is what Dei was suppose to be for right. But like i daid. The pendulum was pished to from one extrem the other. I fully beleive EVERYONE should be given a fair chance. No matter of they are white, black, yellow or gree . Race should not and does not matter to me at all. There skill level and qualifications do in job positions. Your lack of understanding my meaning shows your lack of intelligence and your over arching aspirations in the hopes that the world will change from one extreme to the next. I fully support ANYONE , no matter there race or beleives. And if said individual is more qualified then someone else for a position. Than that individual based on there merits and qualifications should get the position. No matter of they are a minority or not. It's really that simple. But I don't expect pr beleive based on your ridiculous low I.q meassage that you have the cognitive abilities to understand anybody this. You are too stuck on your own narrow minded view. Good day. Hopefully someday you can open your eyes and learn to see all sides equally and then think for yourself instead following what you beleive to be the righteous path. Edited February 8 by NewGuy_411 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BAxelrod25 1 Report post Posted February 10 On 2/3/2025 at 2:39 PM, NewGuy_411 said: I mean , he is deffinitly doing some bad things. But he is also doing some okay things. Controversial, but none the less things that should be done for sure. As a Canadian, if I was an American. I woudnt have voted for him. But I would deffinitly not voted for Kamala either. Dei practices need to be removed and wiped out. I beleive EVERYONE should be given a fair chance. This obviously includes minorities as well. Things should most deffinitly be judged on there merit. Such as job positions. Not just because someone is a minority. If the minority is more qualified for the position. Then they should get the position. NOT ONLY because they are a minority. I beleive Trump is trying to change that. For the better. I see what you are trying to say but the point that others have made to you. Is that the entire reason that DEI even exists is because historically and still in 2025, minorities are not being hired despite having all of the qualifications and experience. Hiring practices are not solely based on merit, they never have been. The job market has been in favour of people who are white. I agree that a company should not turn away a qualified person like your friend’s wife because they need to hire minorities. That is wrong. DEI needs to exist. It just has to be effective. It has to be legit policies and not box checking. **coming from a minority here. Black person born and raised in this province. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasyvibes 12 Report post Posted February 11 On 2/8/2025 at 7:05 AM, NewGuy_411 said: I beleive anyone like yourself who believes Dei is the solution lost all intelligence LONG ago. Dei has done more harm then good. I beleive that it's core initiative is a good idea. How ever the single fat of the .after is that it goes too far in many cases and pushes the pendulum from one extreme to the next.. And that's on you if you can't understand or see that. That is YOUR lack of critical thinking and intelligence when you are blinded by a one sided agenda. I could personally care less about Trump or his cabinet as I am not an Americain. I beleive his first term shiwed the world he was not a good president as well as not fot for office But frankly , I know he has a female chief of staff, a minority for the Director of F.B.I . A female for the Secretary of the Tressuray as well as a female for the National Interchange. I do not beleive that ANY of us are i the least bit qualified to judge weather or not they are capable of doing those jobs. Especially at this piont until they have been in there in the positions for a while. i lost ALL faith is Dei's objectives when right here in N.S my best freinds wife was told at a large company that they woild not hire her because she was a white female and not a manority. Because theu only hire minoritys. Whichnis ilegal to discriminate against ANYONE. No matyer the race. That is what Dei was suppose to be for right. But like i daid. The pendulum was pished to from one extrem the other. I fully beleive EVERYONE should be given a fair chance. No matter of they are white, black, yellow or gree . Race should not and does not matter to me at all. There skill level and qualifications do in job positions. Your lack of understanding my meaning shows your lack of intelligence and your over arching aspirations in the hopes that the world will change from one extreme to the next. I fully support ANYONE , no matter there race or beleives. And if said individual is more qualified then someone else for a position. Than that individual based on there merits and qualifications should get the position. No matter of they are a minority or not. It's really that simple. But I don't expect pr beleive based on your ridiculous low I.q meassage that you have the cognitive abilities to understand anybody this. You are too stuck on your own narrow minded view. Good day. Hopefully someday you can open your eyes and learn to see all sides equally and then think for yourself instead following what you beleive to be the righteous path. I'm gonna be honest with you. I dont respect your opinion enough to read this much less, to give it a proper reply. So good job. I'm sure your "high I.Q" will be trying to rationalize why i didn't read your effortful message for the next few days. But I assure you, it's just because you have absolutely zero idea of what you're talking about and you know just enough to be the quintessential example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobertDion 80 Report post Posted February 11 (edited) 19 hours ago, BAxelrod25 said: I see what you are trying to say but the point that others have made to you. Is that the entire reason that DEI even exists is because historically and still in 2025, minorities are not being hired despite having all of the qualifications and experience. Hiring practices are not solely based on merit, they never have been. The job market has been in favour of people who are white. I agree that a company should not turn away a qualified person like your friend’s wife because they need to hire minorities. That is wrong. DEI needs to exist. It just has to be effective. It has to be legit policies and not box checking. **coming from a minority here. Black person born and raised in this province. I'd like to see the data on this "minorities are not being hired despite having all of the qualifications and experience" -- because quite the opposite seems to be true and it's why DEI has fallen out of favour after just a couple years of trending wildly in the hiring process. DEI is the process to NOT hiring based on qualifications, but to hire merely because there's boxes to be checked, to hire diversity for the sake of diversity. Why on earth would ANY business hire less qualified white people just because they're white? They hire certain people because they are qualified, because the more qualified they are the more efficient they are the more efficient and effective they are at their job, the more money they make, it's all about money, why would they hire people to purposefully lose money just because of the color of their skin? I think this is only you're opinion, if you were a business owner you'd know that they ONLY hire the most qualified people because that SAVES them money and that's literally the purpose of ANY business - to hire people JUST because they're white but are less qualified makes noooo sense. The whole reason why DEI is failing is because businesses are failing because they're NOT hiring based on qualifications and have been bullied or pressured to hire non-white, non-straight just to appear more diverse and pro-equality, but since that has ruined their profit margins, they're going back to hiring people based upon their qualifications, regardless of their sexual orientation or skin color. Edited February 11 by RobertDion typos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy_411 8 Report post Posted February 11 (edited) 12 hours ago, Fantasyvibes said: I'm gonna be honest with you. I dont respect your opinion enough to read this much less, to give it a proper reply. So good job. I'm sure your "high I.Q" will be trying to rationalize why i didn't read your effortful message for the next few days. But I assure you, it's just because you have absolutely zero idea of what you're talking about and you know just enough to be the quintessential example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Your opinion matters not to me. Your lack of critical thinking skills and inability to look at every angle of a situation is unsuprizing. it shows in everything you type. And I'm sure it shows in your daily life. I pitty anyone living with or around you. Good day ! Edited February 11 by NewGuy_411 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy_411 8 Report post Posted February 11 1 hour ago, RobertDion said: I'd like to see the data on this "minorities are not being hired despite having all of the qualifications and experience" -- because quite the opposite seems to be true and it's why DEI has fallen out of favour after just a couple years of trending wildly in the hiring process. DEI is the process to NOT hiring based on qualifications, but to hire merely because there's boxes to be checked, to hire diversity for the sake of diversity. Why on earth would ANY business hire less qualified white people just because they're white? They hire certain people because they are qualified, because the more qualified they are the more efficient they are the more efficient and effective they are at their job, the more money they make, it's all about money, why would they hire people to purposefully lose money just because of the color of their skin? I think this is only you're opinion, if you were a business owner you'd know that they ONLY hire the most qualified people because that SAVES them money and that's literally the purpose of ANY business - to hire people JUST because they're white but are less qualified makes noooo sense. The whole reason why DEI is failing is because businesses are failing because they're NOT hiring based on qualifications and have been bullied or pressured to hire non-white, non-straight just to appear more diverse and pro-equality, but since that has ruined their profit margins, they're going back to hiring people based upon their qualifications, regardless of their sexual orientation or skin color. I couldn't agree more. If Fantasyvibes had the criticail thinking skills and I.Q to be able to look at the current situation. They would have realized this is the current landscape of Dei. I agree dei should exist and EVERYONE no matter their skin color/ race or sex orientation should all be given fair chances. As long as they are QUALIFIED. If I take a flight to Toronto. I don't care about the race or sex of the pilot . I just want them to be able to be the best at there job and can land the plane. Explaining this to anyone on the far alt left is like pulling teeth with pliers. They are not smart enough to see past there beleives and can't see anything but there own twisted views. They are full of vitriol and delusion. I will also piont out that this thread has moved away from its original piont. I will include that if the U.S president dumb dumb buys tarriffs on our steel and Aluminum industry. We will feel a lot of pain in the entire economy. I hope he moves away from said tarrifs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BAxelrod25 1 Report post Posted February 11 1 hour ago, RobertDion said: I'd like to see the data on this "minorities are not being hired despite having all of the qualifications and experience" -- because quite the opposite seems to be true and it's why DEI has fallen out of favour after just a couple years of trending wildly in the hiring process. DEI is the process to NOT hiring based on qualifications, but to hire merely because there's boxes to be checked, to hire diversity for the sake of diversity. Why on earth would ANY business hire less qualified white people just because they're white? They hire certain people because they are qualified, because the more qualified they are the more efficient they are the more efficient and effective they are at their job, the more money they make, it's all about money, why would they hire people to purposefully lose money just because of the color of their skin? I think this is only you're opinion, if you were a business owner you'd know that they ONLY hire the most qualified people because that SAVES them money and that's literally the purpose of ANY business - to hire people JUST because they're white but are less qualified makes noooo sense. The whole reason why DEI is failing is because businesses are failing because they're NOT hiring based on qualifications and have been bullied or pressured to hire non-white, non-straight just to appear more diverse and pro-equality, but since that has ruined their profit margins, they're going back to hiring people based upon their qualifications, regardless of their sexual orientation or skin color. I dont disagree with you that it isnt working the way it is supposed to currently. Youre missing my point though. I was simply saying why it was created. DEI evolved from civil rights movements in the 60’s during segregation times. People were historically not hired for roles they were qualified for based on skin color or other factors. The entire purpose of it was to increase diversity amongst a group of QUALIFIED individuals. It wasn't supposed to be box checking etc. It was supposed to be initiatives that simply increased the number of applicants of different races genders etc. The idea that during times where racial divide was very very very open, business owners wouldn't hire white people solely because of race, regardless of ability, is ignorant. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
status4 792 Report post Posted February 12 On 2/5/2025 at 11:46 AM, MsManda said: Just doing my part for the local economy 😂 Wait, we need to examine you, verify your Cancon level first. 😆 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites